i stated my opinion on page 2, but that's neither here or there.
Question tho, if the situation was the same except it was two males (same size and build more or less) instead, would your reaction still be more or less the same?
Mcdonalds Incident.... Self defense???
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i stated my opinion on page 2, but that's neither here or there.
Question tho, if the situation was the same except it was two males (same size and build more or less) instead, would your reaction still be more or less the same?
To me, it doesn't matter what gender or race the assailants were.
The facts still remain that the cashier was doing his legitimate job in checking whether the $50 bill he'd been given by the customer was valid before she took offense and began to verbally abuse the guy.
Emboldened by the fact that said guy chose to smile at her insults rather than engage her in a slanging match she then proceeded to lunge over the counter to deliver a slap to his face which constitutes assault in itself before leaping over the counter in pursuit of said cashier with her friend coming sideways from the right hand side of the screen.
The two women proceed to move aggressively towards the cashier before attacking him. He proceeds to defend himself with a kitchen implement, subduing his assailants and continues to hit them every time they tried to rise to their feet all the while telling them to "stay down".
Should he have continued smiting them whilst they were writhing on the floor?
Maybe not. But it cannot be argued that the assailants had not placed themselves in this unfortunate position due to their own lack of decorum and civility.
The two women in this case were extremely stupid and only have themselves to blame for whatever injuries they suffered as a consequence of said stupidity.
The Cashier's previous criminal conviction has no bearing on whether what he did in this instance was wrong or right but it will no doubt have consequences as to how his case is viewed in court with a possible conviction to follow thus further insuring that another minority male takes up space on the already overcrowded conveyor belt of the prison complex industry.
After all is said and done, this scenario is sad and unfortunate on so many levels for the simple fact that when it comes to right and wrong some people choose to get it twisted rather than sticking to what's right in front of their very eyes.
I personally tend to try and steer clear from any of the ridiculous Black men vs Black Women threads and posts that tend to proliferate within this forum with much frequency but it never seizes to amaze me how vocal some posters become when they scent blood in the gender war waters of BGOL.
what a strange and interesting perspective, actually looking at the situation for what it is and not intentionally biasing it based on gender
To me, it doesn't matter what gender or race the assailants were.
The facts still remain that the cashier was doing his legitimate job in checking whether the $50 bill he'd been given by the customer was valid before she took offense and began to verbally abuse the guy.
Emboldened by the fact that said guy chose to smile at her insults rather than engage her in a slanging match she then proceeded to lunge over the counter to deliver a slap to his face which constitutes assault in itself before leaping over the counter in pursuit of said cashier with her friend coming sideways from the right hand side of the screen.
The two women proceed to move aggressively towards the cashier before attacking him. He proceeds to defend himself with a kitchen implement, subduing his assailants and continues to hit them every time they tried to rise to their feet all the while telling them to "stay down".
Should he have continued smiting them whilst they were writhing on the floor?
Maybe not. But it cannot be argued that the assailants had not placed themselves in this unfortunate position due to their own lack of decorum and civility.
The two women in this case were extremely stupid and only have themselves to blame for whatever injuries they suffered as a consequence of said stupidity.
The Cashier's previous criminal conviction has no bearing on whether what he did in this instance was wrong or right but it will no doubt have consequences as to how his case is viewed in court with a possible conviction to follow thus further insuring that another minority male takes up space on the already overcrowded conveyor belt of the prison complex industry.
After all is said and done, this scenario is sad and unfortunate on so many levels for the simple fact that when it comes to right and wrong some people choose to get it twisted rather than sticking to what's right in front of their very eyes.
I personally tend to try and steer clear from any of the ridiculous Black men vs Black Women threads and posts that tend to proliferate within this forum with much frequency but it never seizes to amaze me how vocal some posters become when they scent blood in the gender war waters of BGOL.
I agree....well said.
However,this wouldn't be BGOL if I didn't point out "it never seizes to amaze me".....
You mean "never ceases to amaze me."
sorry
To me, it doesn't matter what gender or race the assailants were.
The facts still remain that the cashier was doing his legitimate job in checking whether the $50 bill he'd been given by the customer was valid before she took offense and began to verbally abuse the guy.
Emboldened by the fact that said guy chose to smile at her insults rather than engage her in a slanging match she then proceeded to lunge over the counter to deliver a slap to his face which constitutes assault in itself before leaping over the counter in pursuit of said cashier with her friend coming sideways from the right hand side of the screen.
The two women proceed to move aggressively towards the cashier before attacking him. He proceeds to defend himself with a kitchen implement, subduing his assailants and continues to hit them every time they tried to rise to their feet all the while telling them to "stay down".
Should he have continued smiting them whilst they were writhing on the floor?
Maybe not. But it cannot be argued that the assailants had not placed themselves in this unfortunate position due to their own lack of decorum and civility.
The two women in this case were extremely stupid and only have themselves to blame for whatever injuries they suffered as a consequence of said stupidity.
The Cashier's previous criminal conviction has no bearing on whether what he did in this instance was wrong or right but it will no doubt have consequences as to how his case is viewed in court with a possible conviction to follow thus further insuring that another minority male takes up space on the already overcrowded conveyor belt of the prison complex industry.
After all is said and done, this scenario is sad and unfortunate on so many levels for the simple fact that when it comes to right and wrong some people choose to get it twisted rather than sticking to what's right in front of their very eyes.
I personally tend to try and steer clear from any of the ridiculous Black men vs Black Women threads and posts that tend to proliferate within this forum with much frequency but it never seizes to amaze me how vocal some posters become when they scent blood in the gender war waters of BGOL.
Truth.
This just looks bad all the way around the two dumbass assailants are now in the hospital. Wanna bet they'll sue mcdonalds now?
Homeboy who went all HAM on them lost his job and will most likely go back to prison.
Who wins?
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kwazdog
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Have you ever spent time in NY? Many of these NY broads will slice you in a NY minute! Videos of chicks slicing dudes with razors have been posted on here many times before. You don't want anybody in NY invading your personal space, too many people.
To me, it doesn't matter what gender or race the assailants were.
The facts still remain that the cashier was doing his legitimate job in checking whether the $50 bill he'd been given by the customer was valid before she took offense and began to verbally abuse the guy.
Emboldened by the fact that said guy chose to smile at her insults rather than engage her in a slanging match she then proceeded to lunge over the counter to deliver a slap to his face which constitutes assault in itself before leaping over the counter in pursuit of said cashier with her friend coming sideways from the right hand side of the screen.
The two women proceed to move aggressively towards the cashier before attacking him. He proceeds to defend himself with a kitchen implement, subduing his assailants and continues to hit them every time they tried to rise to their feet all the while telling them to "stay down".
Should he have continued smiting them whilst they were writhing on the floor?
Maybe not. But it cannot be argued that the assailants had not placed themselves in this unfortunate position due to their own lack of decorum and civility.
The two women in this case were extremely stupid and only have themselves to blame for whatever injuries they suffered as a consequence of said stupidity.
The Cashier's previous criminal conviction has no bearing on whether what he did in this instance was wrong or right but it will no doubt have consequences as to how his case is viewed in court with a possible conviction to follow thus further insuring that another minority male takes up space on the already overcrowded conveyor belt of the prison complex industry.
After all is said and done, this scenario is sad and unfortunate on so many levels for the simple fact that when it comes to right and wrong some people choose to get it twisted rather than sticking to what's right in front of their very eyes.
I personally tend to try and steer clear from any of the ridiculous Black men vs Black Women threads and posts that tend to proliferate within this forum with much frequency but it never seizes to amaze me how vocal some posters become when they scent blood in the gender war waters of BGOL.
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You said ALL.
That's what you said....ALL. Am I supposed to assume that you meant "..And i didn't say everyone. I said everyone who agreed with this guys actions past the point he should've stopped.." because that goes against having to look in other threads ("This thread and any other thread where men are hitting women.")and goes against the definition of 'all' since BGOL has thousands of members and not all of them said they ALL want to hit women. Not ALL of them have been in this thread. To say nothing of the millions of black man in the world at large. They ALL want to beat women?
Like you constantly hold us to when dealing with women "Not ALL of us are like what you think we are". To think that would be is to assume....RIGHT?
*two cents*
Yes. Per....my response in post 321
I agree....well said.
However,this wouldn't be BGOL if I didn't point out "it never seizes to amaze me".....
You mean "never ceases to amaze me."
sorry
Thanks for the correction.
No one's perfect.
Yes i have been. You know how i avoided these types of situations? I didn't get in them. I didn't provoke hoodrats. I didn't jump counters chasing after cashiers. I'm from a pretty tough place to live myself. And i somehow maintained living without people doing major damage to me because i don't seek trouble. And if trouble comes looking for me, i'm usually grown up enough to avoid it.
Does anyone think this man should be held accountable for his actions?
They condone it because they wish it was them. Each and everyone of them who's cosiging this event. Wishes it was them. They all think the guy was in the right and they wish it was them beating women with some kind of stick. It's what they all want to do.
Just another assumption.... That we all want to do it. Understanding- evening cosigning- an activity does not mean one wants to participate in it. The wishing it was them is also an assumption....
Me personally, do I think the guy was right? Yes. Could have he taken a different approach? Yes. Does that mean I wish I was him because I cosign what he did. No.
Shame Shame Shame...Legacy. Assumptions.....
*two cents*
Just another assumption.... That we all want to do it. Understanding- evening cosigning- an activity does not mean one wants to participate in it. The wishing it was them is also an assumption....
Me personally, do I think the guy was right? Yes. Could have he taken a different approach? Yes. Does that mean I wish I was him because I cosign what he did. No.
Shame Shame Shame...Legacy. Assumptions.....
*two cents*
Ok. I'll keep this thread favorited. So i can pull it up the next time you guys so fervently feel you should hit women.
But should she had hit him????
Damn, I see my question hasn't been answered yet. 
You do that Legacy. You keep this thread- and that video- in mind anytime a woman feels she needs to hit a man, jump a counter, and then go after him too.
*two cents*
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Peeps need to truly read Nathan and Julia Hare's book, "THE CRISIS IN BLACK SEXUAL POLITICS" and Shaharazad Ali's "THE BLACK MAN'S GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING THE BLACK WOMEN".
The timeless knowledge dropped by those those books over 20 years ago say all that needs to be said in regards to this video and the one last week of the battle between young Black Girls, and Black Male Police Officers at the 125th and Malcolm X Blvd/Lenox Ave station.
The timeless knowledge dropped by those those books over 20 years ago say all that needs to be said in regards to this video and the one last week of the battle between young Black Girls, and Black Male Police Officers at the 125th and Malcolm X Blvd/Lenox Ave station.
Women don't jump over counters and attack men. That's something that a life form with a set of balls does.
what the hell yall been talking about for 12 pages? 
Fine we'll play this game. That was me being facetious saying that's what they will say to you if they paid attention to your post. That's what it has to do with you.
I was Joking.
me too
electrified
i already said after they were down he should have called the cops on the two crazy women. its what i would have done
i find no faults in backing them off of him in a restricted area after already smacking him in the face.
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kwazdog
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If he looked like these Old Men, He would Not be in any trouble
The way the black man is chastised by this society for asserting his basic rights is down right satanic. If he were a white dude most world praise him as a hero.
Yes the second round of pummeling was excessive but many would have done the same in the heat of the moment(especially in large populations like New York). Me personally they would have caught the beat down but I would have try to run in the freezer or some shit, If was cornered I would have aimed away from their heads. It would have taken a lot more than that for me to be in that situation, but I understand that every man is not as "tolerant" as I am or should be required to. I view hurting others as "hurting myself" so it would take a lot more to "get me in the mood". The way that white woman in that video reacted sums it it up. Everyones nightmare in this society seems to be the black man asserting himself, they want to see us "broken" and "in check", whist ignoring and subtilely praising the "white mans" infinitely more atrocious propensity toward violence. 
I guarantee if he was a white man beating those girls her reaction would not have ben so hysterical, even if the attackers were white lesbians.Oh well, at least I have my thirst for attaining "mental freedom", spiritual and physical. If the masses want to sit in a brainwashed state so be it.. Just lead by example. Fuck it.
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not in any other instance other than self preservation.
don't hit me, punch me, slap me, push me, shove me, come at me with weapons
and i will NEVER touch you in a violent manner
words will never make me hit ANYONE male or female...
disrespecting my space (hitting and yes spitting) will.
I dont see what's so hard about that to understand
man after sum time thinkin i gotta say...phukk them bytches...they went waaayyy to far and got dealt wit...to bad they sidetracked dude in the process...muthaphuker at work doing his job & this shyt happens...he went to far no doubt...but u dont know wat them chycks r totin...shyt they krazy enuff to slap a stranger & jump the counter....whats off the table at that point...NE PHUKKIN thing could happen...and it did
Definitely self defense.
Those bulldaggers deserved what they got.
This is a case of fucking with the wrong mother fucker!
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kwazdog
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Some of these (misguided) feminist want TOTALITARIAN/ORWELL-IAN like control over the male psyche, but they are much to smart to admit that in public.
They don't really want true equality amongst us humans, Truly living in "love & light"(empathy and compassion).
A message to ALL you DOUBLE STANDARD ASS FUCK FACES . . .
Now run along and send this vid to ALL of your FEMALE RELATIVES. At least THEN, they can't claim to have NOT received the MEMO.
Fuck. How difficult is this to understand. NOBODY has the right to put hands on ANYBODY unless they are THEMSELVES physically provoked, and need to neutralize a threat.
The world is getting CRAZIER, NOT MORE SANE.
Join the HUMAN RACE and WISE UP. Leave that animal shit to the 'Wild Kingdom'
And some trivia for the bible thumpers: What did the cashier DEFEND himself with?
Answer: A ROD.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child". They EARNED that outcome.
It's this DOUBLE STANDARD applied to gender that LIKELY got these females/dikes BELIEVING they can have it both ways . . . WAIT . . . no pun intended.
JG
VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE . . . AND ASSAULT IS ASSAULT. GENDER DOES NOT MATTER. There's no such thing as a 'female bruise' or a 'male bruise'. It's a fucking BRUISE. . . or a cut, or whatever.
KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS, SPIT, AND POTENTIAL PROJECTILES TO YOUR SELF.
Now run along and send this vid to ALL of your FEMALE RELATIVES. At least THEN, they can't claim to have NOT received the MEMO.
Fuck. How difficult is this to understand. NOBODY has the right to put hands on ANYBODY unless they are THEMSELVES physically provoked, and need to neutralize a threat.
The world is getting CRAZIER, NOT MORE SANE.
Join the HUMAN RACE and WISE UP. Leave that animal shit to the 'Wild Kingdom'
And some trivia for the bible thumpers: What did the cashier DEFEND himself with?
Answer: A ROD.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child". They EARNED that outcome.
It's this DOUBLE STANDARD applied to gender that LIKELY got these females/dikes BELIEVING they can have it both ways . . . WAIT . . . no pun intended.
JG
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Yet he's the 1 with agg assault. I'm not a legal person. But i've been around the block enough to know, i've seen and experienced enough to know how these things go down. As should every black man in this thread. In America. If i'm correct i think there's a lawyer in this thread who said the same thing. Argue the case with him.
This guy is going down. He'll get a few more years all because instead of just stopping, keeping his head like a grown up would do. And i know what's coming next, "But she hit him!" He should've stood there knowing how much HE had to lose. Picked up the phone called the police. Sued McDonalds for unsafe work conditions. papi68 can say if he has a case there or not. I THINK he does. I've been sued for that before. But i don't know how it works in NY.
Datsmybikepunk posted the perfect analogy. You guys think with your dicks and fists. Instead of thinking with your brains. You let testosterone rule the day and it winds you up in situations like this trying to hope and pray for hail mary's. Saying things like it was self defense, i have the right to kill somebody if they slap me. Because it's real out here in these streets SON!
Which is why so many black men are in jail today.
If it ended with the slap, fine... But he had no idea what they were planning when they jumped the counter.
Man fuck all this...
dudes in here said it the best....
Problem too many of today's females don t want to act like females....
They want to be like men....but they don t understand being a man has consequences....
Like if you pick a fight....you have to deal with the outcome.....
Chicks hate taking responsibility for their actions....
dudes in here said it the best....
Problem too many of today's females don t want to act like females....
They want to be like men....but they don t understand being a man has consequences....
Like if you pick a fight....you have to deal with the outcome.....
Chicks hate taking responsibility for their actions....
Word, makes sense. But once again, the person I asked the question (Drayonis) to has yet to respond.
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