Mayweather vs. Ortiz: Sucker punch or fair play? Merchant Blasted! [MERGED]

Foul play by Floyd, or should Victor have been protecting himself?

  • Sucker punch

    Votes: 174 24.9%
  • Fair play

    Votes: 526 75.1%

  • Total voters
    700
Keep your gloves up and fight! That was on Ortiz. Hek, he just stood there like Glass Joe after the first hit.
:beatyourass:
 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

Wow. That was some classless shit. But that that is pbf. I was sure the ref was giving instructions to the judges and he didnt instruct the fighters to commence with the fight. Oh well. It was funny though. But only funny cause pbf just finds new ways to reinforce that notion he has no class. Oh well. I am sure he will give victor another shot. Cause like I said before. Pbf only fights people he knows he can beat.

There is so much wrong with boxing. Tonight I am kind of embarrassed to be a fan.

Dude you full of it and your hatred for Mayweather blinds you.

He clearly told the fighters to box, and was in Ortiz's face while he said it. Ortiz fucked up nobody else.

On top of that your ignoring the fact that the whole event only took place because ORTIZ blatantly head butted Mayweather. Had he never done that we wouldn't even be discussing this.



https://twitter.com/#!/KevinI/status/115287548951146496

"Talked to Keith Kizer of NV Commission. Cortez pointed to time keeper and said time in. Punches were legal, according to Kizer. #boxing"

floyd always fires after a break . maybe ortiz trainer should have told him that during camp .

:clap:

The more I watch it, the more I'm like what was Ortiz thinking. I understand that he was appologetic about the headbutt, but how do you accidently headbutt someone like that in the first place. After the headbutt he's hugging and kissing because he knew he was wrong. THE REF TELLS THEM TO FIGHT and then looks to the time keeper to make sure that he restarts the clock. The boxers touch gloves and Ortiz wants to continue to hug it out. Floyd is still angry about the headbutt and pops dude not once but twice.


Thank you. The ref told them to box after that its on you to be ready.




watch the fight on youtube again, mayweather never went in for any apology his gloves were up ready to fight


Exactly
 
Re: Mayweather vs. Ortiz: Sucker punch or fair play?

Pretty much. This same shit always goes on about "sucker punches". You can't sucker punch someone while you are fighting them. This guy Ortiz....I don't know much about him but my perception of him is that he has a soft makeup. Even in the weigh-in yesterday. He's been letting Mayweather intimidate him with his mouth from jump. Why you would try and hug a professional fighter is beyond me but I guess its lesson learned now. He won't make that mistake again. I still believe this cat had to have threw this fight. I'm seeing all these people on facebook talking about sucker punch. These niggas can't be serious.

right. as if leaping off the ground to head butt (never seen that one before) ISNT dirty. As if having an incompetent ref had nothing to do with it. Nobody seems to remember the ref COUNTING DUDE OUT..... AND you're holding a title belt? Better knuckle up and defend yourself. Shit, all kids hear those words "put up your dukes" from the time you learn to walk. Floyd was probably pissed about that kiss too :lol:
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a bitch move. Its an unwritten rule in combat sports that you should reset with your guard up after you touch gloves. Maywheather clearly violated that unwritten rule.
 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

Ortiz actually left his fucking feet for that headbutt...he was doing his best against a nigga trapped against the ropes...the nigga was laughing at him and Ortiz had a brainfart..he was feeling wronged by mother nature for Mayweather having that much of an advantage on him even being a decade older. What he got was a legal taste of his own illegal medicine and it was more than he could swallow. This is a payday of 30-45 million for Floyd and he fights once a year, he can't be taking no bullshit illegal shots at this age. Ortiz got what he deserved, end of story.

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Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

1. Can't be a cheap shot and be legal.
2. Protect yourself at all times!!!! rule for boxing and life
 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

No go back and look. He allowed Ortiz to approach him and hug him. If he was up and ready to fight he would of never let Ortiz hug him and whisper an apology in his ear.

so he should have waited till ortiz threw the first punch ? tell the truth did u see the fight through and through or are you looking at clips? also how many time should ortiz be allowed to apologize for intentional headbutting
 
That shit was dirty. Not in the "its wrong" dirty since. More in the "swooping in for a park while someone has been waiting for it for 5 minutes dirty." Floyd's response to Larry is classic Floyd he runs from conflict when someone challenges him with questions. The only difference is when the heat got to him he resorted to cussing Larry out like he did his Dad on 24/7 :smh: This is Floyd's interview right before Shane Mosley, and when Tony and Mike start talking that Pacman shit, you can see him get spooked.


 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

It won't too right, but it was right if that makes sense

sucker punch

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:smh:

In any type of combat sport..MMA, kickboxing, boxing, karate...I don't care...before the fight the ref alays says "protect yourself at all times"
He got caught slippin'

How many times was he going to apologize anyways...then after the first punch he looked to the ref as if he was saying "Hey ref..look at what he's doing? no fair!"

Yeah, didn't understand that one at all :smh:

Why wouldn't you put your guard up and say something or keep your eye on him :smh:
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a bitch move. Its an unwritten rule in combat sports that you should reset with your guard up after you touch gloves. Maywheather clearly violated that unwritten rule.

thats on the ref to enforce it.
 
There was no way in hell that kid was gonna beat Money. I already called it at work last week... May by KO, TKO before the 6th.

I was tellin' them that kid don't like to get hit, and once May started taggin him repeatedly the kid would give up or do something stupid out of frustration, and that's exactly what happened.
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a bitch move. Its an unwritten rule in combat sports that you should reset with your guard up after you touch gloves. Maywheather clearly violated that unwritten rule.

:confused:

When did they touch gloves?

The hug Floyd obviously didn't want :smh:
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a bitch move. Its an unwritten rule in combat sports that you should reset with your guard up after you touch gloves. Maywheather clearly violated that unwritten rule.

what about the dirty head butt?
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a bitch move. Its an unwritten rule in combat sports that you should reset with your guard up after you touch gloves. Maywheather clearly violated that unwritten rule.

Man WTF....you sound like the dudes in my gym that when i'm playing basketball and dominating them in the paint they wanna throw hard ass fouls trying to hurt me but soon as a elbow flys in they sternum or a knee in their chin they wanna say "that's dirty"

There are no unwritten rules when you violate them. It's no holds bar and victor made that choice
 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

so he should have waited till ortiz threw the first punch ? tell the truth did u see the fight through and through or are you looking at clips? also how many time should ortiz be allowed to apologize for intentional headbutting

I did see the fight so calm your ass down. If Floyd was ready to fight he would of never let the apology happen. You have your guard up but let a hug happen? GTFOH.
 
sucker punch

and a bitch move


and i blame the ref also....fight should be ruled a no contest...
 
Man if Mayweather was White, Ortiz would have been crucified for that head butt. I hate to turn it into a race thing but it is what it is. Mayweather doesn't bow down to no one and they hate that about him. He's young, Black, rich, and marches to his own drum.
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats on the ref to enforce it.

It was a legal punch but one that violated the unwritten rule.

Ortiz also did a bitch move with the headbut..

Both were bitch moves and they shouldn't be defended.. The whole fight was some B.S and I'm glad I didn't pay to see it.
 
That shit was dirty. Not in the "its wrong" dirty since. More in the "swooping in for a park while someone has been waiting for it for 5 minutes dirty." Floyd's response to Larry is classic Floyd he runs from conflict when someone challenges him with questions. The only difference is when the heat got to him he resorted to cussing Larry out like he did his Dad on 24/7 :smh: This is Floyd's interview right before Shane Mosley, and when Tony and Mike start talking that Pacman shit, you can see him get spooked.





Agreed.
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:confused:

When did they touch gloves?

The hug Floyd obviously didn't want :smh:

:lol:

These niggaz are making up new rules to shit on this nigga:lol::smh:



Niggaz are like "everybody knows you hug, kiss, and do the hokey pokey after a pause in action before throwing another punc, everyone knows that":lol:
 
Oh shit!!! Victor Ortiz caught it!! ...for trying to start a dirty fight. I am back from the fight night party. Oh and i get to dance with a tall curvy woman off Michael Jackson's "You Rock My World. Hmmm hmmm hmm . Hehehehehehehehehehe
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

These niggaz are making up new rules to shit on this nigga:lol::smh:



Niggaz are like "everybody knows you hug, kiss, and do the hokey pokey after a pause in action before throwing another punc, everyone knows that":lol:

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
Man if Mayweather was White, Ortiz would have been crucified for that head butt. I hate to turn it into a race thing but it is what it is. Mayweather doesn't bow down to no one and they hate that about him. He's young, Black, rich, and marches to his own drum.


True.

I'm not even a Mayweather fan (although I love watching him fight and appreciate his talent) and I can see how the hatred people have for this dude blinds them to whatever he does.

Let this have been Pac vs. Ortiz with the same result and they would have destroyed Ortiz and praised Pac for doing what Floyd did (which any boxer would do).
 
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@ the 3:00 mark . they all agreed mosley was wrong for not protecting himself but now its a problem :lol:
moral of the story dont try that sucker shit with pbf
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

These niggaz are making up new rules to shit on this nigga:lol::smh:



Niggaz are like "everybody knows you hug, kiss, and do the hokey pokey after a pause in action before throwing another punc, everyone knows that":lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

That's why it doesn't make sense

Dudes are seeing what they want to see

Dude rejected the gloves, and the hug...so put your guard back up and to get to fighting

That was a young fighter mistake and he paid for it end of story
 
Check the head butt again - after he head butted him - I swear he threw an elbow (or maybe just a quick hook that looked like an elbow) and then he threw a left - regardless, dude was going hard.
 
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Kevin Hart
It's about to go down at Mix inside of Mandalay Bay...if anybody try to hug me w/out protecting they self I'm punching them in the face

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Re: bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

These niggaz are making up new rules to shit on this nigga:lol::smh:



Niggaz are like "everybody knows you hug, kiss, and do the hokey pokey after a pause in action before throwing another punc, everyone knows that":lol:

:lol::lol:
 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

I did see the fight so calm your ass down. If Floyd was ready to fight he would of never let the apology happen. You have your guard up but let a hug happen? GTFOH.

ok well than i guess ortiz isnt to bright , i thought i was watching boxing
 
Re: if i was 5o yrs younger i'd kick ur ass

My opinion, it was a young fighter mistake. This is boxing, not skating.

He tried to apologize, tap gloves, hug...Floyd rejected both

So I'm resetting with my guard up, this is boxing fool

This isn't the beginning of the fight or round, Floyd doesn't have to hug you.

And then whining to the ref with your guard down :smh:

He punched me :( Dummy, that's what he's supposed to do :smh:
 
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