Mayweather refuses Manny's demand for a 50/50 split. Fight is in serious trouble.

floyd dont want to split 50/50 but them floyd dont want to move the fight to a bigger venue like jerry's world where the prize would be epic and a record amount more than likely for both fighters
 
why would a undefeated fighter coming off a knockout of a up and coming fighter

Even remotely consider a 50/50 split to a guy with multiple losses, and coming off a fight most thought he lost.

I understand the fan interest in pac, but cmon that not even reasonable.
 
why would a undefeated fighter coming off a knockout of a up and coming fighter

Even remotely consider a 50/50 split to a guy with multiple losses, and coming off a fight most thought he lost.

I understand the fan interest in pac, but cmon that not even reasonable.

Lol, so PBF must the greatest fighter of all time to you. I mean SRL, Ali, Robinson and other greats must suck cause they got losses.
 
Even though you need to understand that @ this point the money DOES matter to Mayweather, his ego matters more!

Even with Pacman's last fight having more buys than PBF's, a 50/50 split suggests that Pacman is on the same level as PBF, and regardless of the outcome of the fight, even if the split is just 51/49, PBF can still sleep knowing that Pacman is his bitch, mentally speaking of course.

It was a grudge match type thing, so that fight should have generated more than Floyd's fight with Ortiz. Now let's see the numbers after Manny fights Ortiz (which I think he will do provided Ortiz doesn't take the rematch with Berto first.)
 
Pacquiao bares details of short talk with Mayweather

by Dennis Gasgona, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 01/20/2012 7:01 PM | Updated as of 01/21/2012 2:31 AM


MANILA, Philippines – Fighting congressman Manny Pacquiao said his short phone conversation with Floyd Mayweather Jr. covered two important points about their mega-fight: the revenue split and the fight date.

Pacquiao said in a one-on-one interview with ABS-CBN correspondent Dyan Castillejo that Mayweather contacted him through his adviser, Michael Koncz.


Manny Pacquiao (left) and Floyd Mayweather Jr. discuss revenue split and fight date.
He said their conversation lasted 3 minutes.

“Nagpag-usapan yung hatian. Napag-usapan din kung anong petsa (We talk about the revenue sharing. We also discussed the fight date),” said the Sarangani congressman.

Pacquiao said he asked for a 50-50 share of the fight revenue.

"Sabi ko aprub na sa akin ang 50-50, walang problema anytime. Nasa 'yo na 'yun. Maghihintay kami kung OK na sa iyo (I said just give me a 50-50 split in revenue and there would be no problem, anytime. It's up to you. We’ll wait for your answer)," he said.

Fight date

He also said Mayweather mentioned May 5, the fight date that prompted a Las Vegas court to move the start of Mayweather’s prison sentence to June.

Although he has no problem about fighting on May 5, Pacquiao said that a latter date will allow more spectators to watch the fight live.

“I think MGM o ibang arena will not be enough,” said Pacquiao.

He said a latter date, sometime in late May, will pave a way for the construction of an open arena that could accommodate more fight fans.

“I hope we will agree for that para marami ng taong makapanood (I hope we get to agree on that so more people can watch the fight first hand),” said Pacquiao.

Asked if he might change his mind about the fight date, Pacquiao said: “Depende ‘yun... by next week malalaman natin (It depends… we’ll know by next week).”
 
Pacquiao bares details of short talk with Mayweather

by Dennis Gasgona, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 01/20/2012 7:01 PM | Updated as of 01/21/2012 2:31 AM


MANILA, Philippines – Fighting congressman Manny Pacquiao said his short phone conversation with Floyd Mayweather Jr. covered two important points about their mega-fight: the revenue split and the fight date.

Pacquiao said in a one-on-one interview with ABS-CBN correspondent Dyan Castillejo that Mayweather contacted him through his adviser, Michael Koncz.


Manny Pacquiao (left) and Floyd Mayweather Jr. discuss revenue split and fight date.
He said their conversation lasted 3 minutes.

“Nagpag-usapan yung hatian. Napag-usapan din kung anong petsa (We talk about the revenue sharing. We also discussed the fight date),” said the Sarangani congressman.

Pacquiao said he asked for a 50-50 share of the fight revenue.

"Sabi ko aprub na sa akin ang 50-50, walang problema anytime. Nasa 'yo na 'yun. Maghihintay kami kung OK na sa iyo (I said just give me a 50-50 split in revenue and there would be no problem, anytime. It's up to you. We’ll wait for your answer)," he said.

Fight date

He also said Mayweather mentioned May 5, the fight date that prompted a Las Vegas court to move the start of Mayweather’s prison sentence to June.

Although he has no problem about fighting on May 5, Pacquiao said that a latter date will allow more spectators to watch the fight live.

“I think MGM o ibang arena will not be enough,” said Pacquiao.

He said a latter date, sometime in late May, will pave a way for the construction of an open arena that could accommodate more fight fans.

“I hope we will agree for that para marami ng taong makapanood (I hope we get to agree on that so more people can watch the fight first hand),” said Pacquiao.

Asked if he might change his mind about the fight date, Pacquiao said: “Depende ‘yun... by next week malalaman natin (It depends… we’ll know by next week).”

This is interesting.

I still don't see why the Pac camp is hellbent on fighting in a bigger arena when they will generate most of their money from PPV buys.
 
This is interesting.

I still don't see why the Pac camp is hellbent on fighting in a bigger arena when they will generate most of their money from PPV buys.

the cool thing about the fight against Clottey was the fact tons of people could attend. For a fan. That seems pretty dope.
 
This is interesting.

I still don't see why the Pac camp is hellbent on fighting in a bigger arena when they will generate most of their money from PPV buys.

Exactly. If you build a temp stadium you run the risk of not having the fight at all due to constructions delays. They know May has to report to jail June 1st and if the construction has delay then he'll be reporting to Jail with no fight.

They should fight on May 5th and do the rematch at a temp stadium or something.
 
This is interesting.

I still don't see why the Pac camp is hellbent on fighting in a bigger arena when they will generate most of their money from PPV buys.

The larger arena angle is bullshit. It will have a NOMINAL effect on revenue.. essentially a rounding error.
 
The larger arena angle is bullshit. It will have a NOMINAL effect on revenue.. essentially a rounding error.

:lol: I know man I know.

I'm starting to see how camp Pacman is starting to treat Floyd like how the GOP treat Obama. First they're for something until he agrees, then they come up with some other shit and it starts all over again. Hell, I'm even convinced that they'll pull something else out of their ass to bitch about even if he agrees to take the larger arena.
 
Lol, you guys are funny. PBF calls him out but when dude says yes and we are splitting it 50/50 for a fight that involves the two best fighters in the world. It makes sense for PBF to walk away. This will be the most money PBF will ever make. This fight is huge because it is Manny vs PBF. Not PBF against some bum. They need each other to make the fight. And a split makes sense. If PBF can't see that then he really doesn't want to fight Manny.

What every happen to the stupid logic of "take the test and fight the best"? Maybe it should be "split the bread and put all the BS to bed". If Manny was scared because PBF wanted him to do a different type of drug testing than normal. Then what is PBF? He is willing to walk away from his biggest payday cause he thinks he should be paid more. Does he really want Manny?
 
I Told You So: Mayweather Ducks Pacquiao Yet Again


Read more: http://www.boxinginsider.com/column...ather-ducks-pacquiao-yet-again/#ixzz1k2ANVJWG

I told you so. Three times I’ve gauranteed Floyd Mayweather will duck Manny Pacquiao. And Floyd has done it again. This time Floyd is demanding a 50-50 purse split which is simply not acceptable.
This is what Floyd always does when he knows he will very likely lose a fight to an iron-willed, relentless pressure fighter like Cotto, Williams, Margarito and Pacquiao: Floyd simply creates a host of excuses and reasons to block the fight he knows he could get beaten up and knocked out in. This time the ducking tactic is executed by pretending to want to force the fight to happen on the illogical date of May 5 as well as demanding the lion share of the total purse despite the fact Floyd is a fading PPV and live gate attraction and Pacquiao is a growing star who now exceeds the American’s star power, even in his own country.
If Pacquiao and Arum were to agree to these latest demands, Floyd will simply use another desperate demand to kill the fight, most likely, “Manny has to drop the lawsuit.” If Manny were to agree to drop the lawsuit, Floyd and his advisor Al Haymon would simply create yet another block. And on and on it would go. This is how they operate. Mayweather and Haymon do not want to fight Pacquiao and they never have. For two years Mayweather and Haymon have faked and schemed their way through this by pretending to want the fight but whenever it comes close to finalizing a deal they always find a way to block it.
How do I know this? Well, Al Haymon’s associate George Peterson, the co-manager of Paul Williams, told me so. “The fight will never happen,” an emphatic Peterson told me over and over again in December of 2009.
That’s right, it will never happen. Ducking Manny Pacquiao has been Mayweather and Haymon’s Plan A all along. Why? I’ll explain. Al Haymon has aspirations to run boxing in America. He said this to former HBO executive Xavier James, which published this information in The New York Times. Haymon can’t control boxing in the U.S. without a major star. The 35-year-old Mayweather is his only “star” and must be protected and coddled no matter what. Haymon is confident he can manipulate HBO and Golden Boy to give him whatever set up fights he wants for Floyd. Haymon is also confident the American public will buy more of Mayweather through Rcihard Schaefer’s and HBO’s marketing programs, even if most of the public realizes Mayweather is the one who ducked Pacquiao for two years.
Richard Schaefer is a known stooge of Haymon, as evidenced by his quote calling Haymon the smartest man he has never met. True power brokers in boxing do not admit subservience to any man. We know who’s thumb Richard Schaefer is under.
So by ducking Pacquiao, Haymon is making the smart business decision for Mayweather. With the marketing and shilling of Mayweather by the American media and HBO and Golden Boy, Haymon and Mayweather expect to continue to generate millions without having to take the big risk and cash out against Pacquiao. If Floyd loses to Pacquiao, it’s all over and Floyd, one of the ugliest and ill-behaved athletes in sports history, will be unsellable to the mainstream as a crossover star which is their agenda. Everything will be fine, they think, just as long as they duck Pacquiao. That is the key. Then Floyd and Haymon can control everything and choreograph their future “fights” Primo Carnera style.
The only hope for the biggest event in boxing history to happen will be if the American public says enough is enough and stops supporting Mayweather. Then Haymon and Mayweather will be forced to cash out. There must be a boycott by boxing fans to ignore all Mayweather “fights” until he boxes Manny Pacquiao. Or perhaps there is another hope. New HBO Sports boss Ken Hershmann, who has to be smart enough and caring enough for the integrity and future of the sport of boxing to know what the hell is going on here. Hopefully Hershmann will stand up to Haymon and physically kick his ass out of the building when Haymon tries to sell HBO on the next garbage WWE set up for Mayweather.
Boxing must cease heading in this direction of becoming an Al Haymon set up business “sport” like WWE wrestling of handpicked set up fights for Mayweather and the rest of his stable of boxers. Boxing must get back to the golden days of the best most noble gladiators competing againt the best, if it wants to thrive and flourish in the future once again, giving the fans what they want, not what “fights” the promoters want. Boxing must get back to the days of Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey and Ray Leonard, who embraced the challenge of testing their skills against the best.
Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather is the Super Bowl event that can captivate and thrill the world, which can put boxing back on it’s feet and give it the boost of strength and momentum to advance into the future to another Golden era of glory and excitement.


Read more: http://www.boxinginsider.com/column...ather-ducks-pacquiao-yet-again/#ixzz1k2AfcvSY
 
:lol: I know man I know.

I'm starting to see how camp Pacman is starting to treat Floyd like how the GOP treat Obama. First they're for something until he agrees, then they come up with some other shit and it starts all over again. Hell, I'm even convinced that they'll pull something else out of their ass to bitch about even if he agrees to take the larger arena.

yeah..and after seeing that other post where Pacman said he would accept less than a 50-50 split as of last month, this 50-50 split thing is starting to seem like bullshit....but now I understand why in every interview i saw with Arum why he and Pacman kept mentioning the 50-50 split... i always wondered why the kept repeating that shit when it was never really a topic... preemptive....

they knew it would be a point of contention...more than meets the eye here..
 
despite the fact Floyd is a fading PPV and live gate attraction and Pacquiao is a growing star who now exceeds the American’s star power, even in his own country

Buk, done somewhere with this bullshit.. You know damn well this is almost ghost written by Arum. I know you are just copying and pasting but this like posting something about Obama written by a longterm member of redstate.

Saying that Floyd is a fading star is laughable.
 
they knew it would be a point of contention...more than meets the eye here..

Just like PBF knew by telling them when and where the fight would be would be a point of contention with them. It is a game. And PBF is going to have to concede something if he is really trying to get this fight made. And that is money. Which he has a shitload anyways.
 
If I'm Floyd its no way I'm taking a 50-50 split. Pacman can't make that type of money fighting anyone else and thats because Mayweather IS boxing. He's the last of a dead breed of popular boxers

bullsheit. this will be the biggest fight of BOTH their careers. they BOTH will make the most they've ever made for a single fight in the history of both of their careers.

name me one fighter that floyd has made more money fighting then the PROJECTED sum floyd is supposed to get fighting pac? fuk that. do a 50-50 split and get it on.

it's like floyd constantly throwin up road blocks to this fight :smh:
 
Visitor Buk;11018823[B said:
]Just like PBF knew by telling them when and where the fight would be would be a point of contention with them. It is a game.[/B] And PBF is going to have to concede something if he is really trying to get this fight made. And that is money. Which he has a shitload anyways.

I dont disagree with this either.

Im tired of these muthafuckas man... i just want to see the fucking fight and stop speculating about it :lol:
 
bullsheit. this will be the biggest fight of BOTH their careers. they BOTH will make the most they've ever made for a single fight in the history of both of their careers.

name me one fighter that floyd has made more money fighting then the PROJECTED sum floyd is supposed to get fighting pac? fuk that. do a 50-50 split and get it on.

it's like floyd constantly throwin up road blocks to this fight :smh:


Now man, they both are throwing up road blocks.

Arum is trying to milk Pacman as long as he can before putting him in the ring with Pacman and Floyd is being greedy at the expense of getting the fight made.
 
If this fight doesnt get made because these mofos (arum and floyd) are splitting hairs over who should get the extra 3-4 Million ( because of their history together) when they will share a possible 300 Million dollar grab, i hope both those bastards get hit by trains.. Pacman too with his singing after the fight ass.... this shit is really getting absurd now man... this has been going on since 2009 man
 
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LMAO @ PBF. Seriously, dude? PBF sets up a date, place, calls dude a punk (after pleading guilty for beating a chick) and calls him out for a fight. Just to back off when he suggests a 50/50 split. Come on PBF. So lets see if PBF can man up. If Manny says he needs him to agree to 50/50 I don't see the issue. If PBF doesn't take a 50/50 split then dude is ducking. Cause he set everything to make it look like he wanted this fight. Which I don't think so. But if he backs out cause of a 50/50 split then it is official who is running. But somehow clowns will act like it is Manny's fault for asking for a split.

:rolleyes: Pac knew PBF was going to say no to that. Everybody says it's just money why don't PBF just take the deal. Ok same thing to Pac it's just money, so take a diff deal. If Pac wins then I'm sure he'll make more money from his future fights. IMO no one is scared it's pride getting in the way.
 
Now man, they both are throwing up road blocks.

Arum is trying to milk Pacman as long as he can before putting him in the ring with Pacman and Floyd is being greedy at the expense of getting the fight made.

this.

I still think floyd deserves the better split but it is what it is.
 
this.

I still think floyd deserves the better split but it is what it is
.


I definitely do too.. but Floyd KNOWS Arum can make more money having Pacman fight a Top Rank fighter or in a bout here he forces the opposing boxer to accept a very lopsided deal. He knows this shit so it is not like Arum cant keep putting Pacman in there with with a good fighter and making bank. The reality of the matter is that Floyd has to accept that Arum does running boxing right now... sometimes you just have to swallow the ego.... he just needs to take the shit out on pacman.... because the reality of the matter is that neither boxer needs to the other to maek big fights... and that is why the fight doesnt get made.. because they both can make another mega fight.. maybe not the fighter of the century but definitely a megafight..
 
:rolleyes: Pac knew PBF was going to say no to that. Everybody says it's just money why don't PBF just take the deal. Ok same thing to Pac it's just money, so take a diff deal. If Pac wins then I'm sure he'll make more money from his future fights. IMO no one is scared it's pride getting in the way.

lol, 50/50 is fair. I mean never guy likes being pushed around. Each fighter can't make money on their own. But why leave all that money on the table cause Manny suggest a 50/50 split? It makes no sense. It isn't like Manny is accusing him of being a cheater. He is saying split the money and fight.
 
"Manny Pacquiao I'm calling you out let's fight May 5th and give the world what they want to see," ... "My Jail Sentence was pushed back because the date was locked in. Step up Punk."

Before they spoke

“He asked about a 50/50 split and I told him no that can’t happen, but what can happen is you can make more money fighting me than you have made in your career. I also let him know I’m in control on my side and he needs to get on the same page as his promoter so we can make this fight happen.”

Afterwards when Manny said "let's fight."


And people think PBF really wants to make this fight.
 
LMAO @ PBF. Seriously, dude? PBF sets up a date, place, calls dude a punk (after pleading guilty for beating a chick) and calls him out for a fight. Just to back off when he suggests a 50/50 split. Come on PBF. So lets see if PBF can man up. If Manny says he needs him to agree to 50/50 I don't see the issue. If PBF doesn't take a 50/50 split then dude is ducking. Cause he set everything to make it look like he wanted this fight. Which I don't think so. But if he backs out cause of a 50/50 split then it is official who is running. But somehow clowns will act like it is Manny's fault for asking for a split.

Yeah, I thought everything would be all good as long as the May 5th holy date was satisfied. Well, they supposedly had the phone conversation where Pac agreed to May 5th and now Mayweather pulls another excuse out of his ass. 50/50 is the most reasonable split as both are major superstars with Pacquiao actually being a bigger star on a global level. First it was all the hollering about May 5th. Mayweather just doesn't want to fight this dude IMO.
 
"Manny Pacquiao I'm calling you out let's fight May 5th and give the world what they want to see," ... "My Jail Sentence was pushed back because the date was locked in. Step up Punk."

Before they spoke

“He asked about a 50/50 split and I told him no that can’t happen, but what can happen is you can make more money fighting me than you have made in your career. I also let him know I’m in control on my side and he needs to get on the same page as his promoter so we can make this fight happen.”

Afterwards when Manny said "let's fight."


And people think PBF really wants to make this fight.


Yeah, Pac pretty much called his bluff.
 
why would a undefeated fighter coming off a knockout of a up and coming fighter

Even remotely consider a 50/50 split to a guy with multiple losses, and coming off a fight most thought he lost.

I understand the fan interest in pac, but cmon that not even reasonable.


To think it isn't reasonable considering HE is 1/2 of the reason people want to see th fight makes absolutely NO SENSE.:smh:
 
I got to give it to PBF. He can come up with all kinds of reasons not to fight Manny. Remember this classic? floyd money mayweather asking for 100 million to fight manny pacquiao

BAGUIO CITY—Floyd Mayweather Jr. may have found a $100-million reason to shelve a fight with Manny Pacquiao.

Top Rank chief Bob Arum revealed to journalists here yesterday that he and fellow Hall of Fame promoter Don King tried to put together the showdown that the boxing universe is dreaming about “after a group came in wanting to put [the fight] in a particular country.”

But Mayweather, who deflected two previous attempts by promoters to put the fight together using overly stringent dope testing procedures, found a new way to thwart negotiations: He priced himself out of the bargaining table.

Arum, who’ll be staying in the Philippines to monitor Pacquiao's training camp until Thursday, said Mayweather asked for a ludicrous guarantee worth $100 million for himself.


Blurting out an expletive, Arum said that the number “indicated that he (Mayweather) didn't want to fight.”

“Who's going to pay him 100 million? I mean, unless Manny fights for nothing.”

The consensus by boxing's prime movers is that both Pacquiao and Mayweather stand to earn between $40 and $50 million, including pay-per-view shares, if ever the super fight pushes through.

It would have happened as early as 2009, but Mayweather shielded himself with demands for an Olympic-style drug-testing protocols, which isn't the norm for professional fights.

In the second round of negotiations, Pacquiao relented a bit, agreeing to having a doping control body to draw blood for testing up to two weeks before the fight.

Inexplicably, Mayweather's camp again balked, insisting that no talks ever took place—a claim eventually proven to be false.


Now, Mayweather, who has dropped to No. 3 in credible pound-for-pound rankings behind Pacquiao and rising middleweight superstar and WBC champion Sergio Martinez, shielded himself from having to agree to a fight with his asking price.

Mayweather last fought in May 2010 when he beat Mosley by unanimous decision.

Neither Arum or Pacquiao delved too much in Mayweather’s latest demands, focusing instead on the eight-division champion’s welterweight showdown against Shane Mosley on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Even if their ring showdown doesn't push through, however, Pacquiao and Mayweather are likely to tangle in court.

According to an AP report Tuesday, United States District Judge Larry Hicks of Nevada has ruled that Pacquiao's defamation lawsuit against the Mayweathers (Floyd Jr. and Sr. and Roger), Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions' Richard Schaefer, rests on firm allegations and has sufficient evidence to continue.

In the lawsuit filed in 2009, Pacquiao averred that the respondents have besmirched his untarnished reputation (he hasn't failed any drug test) with constant allegations that he'd been using performance
 
I got to give it to PBF. He can come up with all kinds of reasons not to fight Manny. Remember this classic? floyd money mayweather asking for 100 million to fight manny pacquiao

BAGUIO CITY—Floyd Mayweather Jr. may have found a $100-million reason to shelve a fight with Manny Pacquiao.

Top Rank chief Bob Arum revealed to journalists here yesterday that he and fellow Hall of Fame promoter Don King tried to put together the showdown that the boxing universe is dreaming about

Come on Buk... Arum revealed and Inquirer.... that is like an article about Obama with Rush Limbaugh saying revealed to Fox News.......
 
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