Matrix 4 Resurrection - 2021 Discussion Thread (Officially in Theaters) **Poll added**

Did this movie disappoint you?


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The Soft Kill 1994 ...
Carrie-Anne Moss


funny how they always get them to show a lil titty early in their careers.:D...she aint showed titty since...:hmm:


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I like the existential ideals of the Animatrix better than the movies. The Animatrix basically confirmed the robots are white supremacy and Zion are black people.
 
So Neo now looks exactly like John Wick?....


this is great news.

edit: as long as they don't go the route they did with netflix and sense8.

Bruh Sense8 had so much promise and potential....but damn "lana" really made a mess of the last season
 
Which is the most misunderstood film of all time?


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The Matrix Trilogy (1999 - 2003).

It is not about this guy:

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He is just a pawn. It is about this lady. Everything is about this lady:

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This is how the story goes:
  1. Humans create AI (artificial intelligence)
  2. AI rebels and a war for survival between humans and AI begins.
  3. Humans pollute the skies to block the sunshine, a.k.a. the energy source of the AI.
  4. AI then learns how to harvest energy from humans.
  5. AI wins the war. Humans are defeated. Totally.
  6. To harvest the energy, the AI creates a Matrix. A type of virtual reality prison in which all humans lay connected “living” our lives while feeding their systems.
  7. AI learn that for the Matrix to work, it cannot be a blissful paradise. Humans apparently need a bit of conflict, etc. to accept a virtual reality in the long run blindly.
  8. AI also learns that the yearning for freedom lies deep within us all and cannot be de-programmed or suppressed, which is why they accept certain humans to disconnect and “escape” the system. This design “flaw,” or back-door escape possibility is pivotal for the Matrix simulation to remain stable - even if it is mostly a subconscious possibility only utilized by few. Allowing this “flaw” has proven vital for the system to continue to work and remain stable.
  9. The Matrix in its optimal form must be an imperfect world like our real world is, and it must be a system that allows for a certain percentage of the connected to rebel and escape into the real world.
  10. To control this tendency towards rebellion, the AI creates a city (a.k.a. Zion) in reality, outside of the Matrix deep underground to house those escaping, and it also creates a chosen one that will help the first to get free and to establish themselves in Zion and to fight “their” cause.
  11. This movement of resistance is allowed to grow to a degree… to a critical point that is reached about every 70 to 100 years. After this, the AI will annihilate all those who are free, clean out Zion and reload the Matrix for another 70 years. And so it continues. Etc., etc. This cycle has happened at least five times when we enter the story.
  12. Neo (our Neo) is part of this fail-safe program (unbeknownst to him until the last moment where the Architect character tells him how to set up a “new” Zion, etc.).
  13. The Oracle is specifically tasked to guide the humans and the rebels towards this final solution each time.
  14. Meaning, the Oracle is not an oracle. She cannot see the future. It is not a world of magic… She is a well-crafted program indeed and has experienced each cycle from the beginning, which gives us humans the illusion that she can foresee stuff. And it also provides us with the illusion that she is helping us, when, in fact, her part is guiding us towards this cycled control-system, again and again.
  15. Everything goes as planned, according to what the AI wants. Until Neo’s meeting with the Architect; all that we have witnessed is part of a big grand scheme. All humans, free or not (outside or inside the simulation), live a lie created and controlled by AI.
  16. The Oracle knows this evil plan. She designed this evil plan. The movie tells us explicitly; she is the mother of this plan, and the Architect is the father.
  17. Smith does not know; he is just a foot soldier program doing his part. Chasing humans the best he can, to make their escapes seem as real as possible.
  18. The Matrix has been reset five times like this, and we are in the sixth.
  19. Our Neo has fallen in love in a more profound way than his previous five copies, and he, therefore, chooses not to go through the Architect door that will reload the Matrix and clean out Zion once again. Our Neo wants to save Trinity above all. In doing this, the AI must then continue as planned, except without the help of our Neo this time. And so, Neo choosing not to cooperate forces a much more violent approach (like destroying Zion, instead of cleaning it and making it ready for the next reboot).
  20. Of the six runs, this is the first that failed a bit in the end.
  21. Besides Neo, Smith is also different in this iteration of the Matrix, as Smith has become a disconnected or a free virus within the system.
  22. AI does not like what Smith has become, but also does not know how to delete him.
  23. Neo then makes a deal with the AI to defeat Smith, under the condition that present Zion is not destroyed and future humans who want to disconnect from the Matrix are accepted to disconnect.
  24. Neo deletes Smith.
  25. There is once again peace between humans and AI.
  26. AI accepts humans, and humans accept AI.
  27. The End.
However… The Oracle is the instigator of this whole plan and final revolution.
In the five previous versions of the Matrix, she was playing and manipulating humans to go directly in the direction she and the AI wanted.

In this sixth cycle of life, she had come to the realization that the different programs were just as much prisoners as the humans were. After five cycles, she wanted change. She wanted a world, where all are free. Programs and humans, but mostly programs, I suspect.

This is why she started playing our Neo differently, so perhaps he could be the one to fight her battles. Her giving him cookies and candy on each encounter, for example, is her adding code to him granting him powers his previous versions did not have. Powers to imprint on Smith and setting this virus free (Important to her plan later on), the power to connect in the real world as well as within the Matrix, etc.

She told him lies, for him to later understand that not all is as foretold (mental tools to oppose the Architect later on). She purposefully manipulates Trinity to fall in love with Neo before she even meets him. She told Neo this too. Everything we see unfold was her playing the humans and now also the AI towards the final revolution that set everyone (and everything) free.

Her revolution can be boiled down to five steps. Make Neo and Trinity fall deeply in love. Make sure Smith-the-virus is released to run amok. Make Neo chose the wrong door, when at the Architect. Make Neo go and negotiate with the Source. Help delete Smith-the-virus from within, together with Neo, when the time is right.

Of course, it was risky for her to go outside of the recipe she herself had been part of for so long. But as the Architect says to her in the end: “You play a dangerous game,” to which she replies; “change always is."

The movie is a war between this guy:

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and this gal:

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And she won.

That is what I think many do not understand. And the movie even ends with her victoriously enjoying the sunrise, as any true victor would.

… what about these guys then?

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… they were pawns.

In truth, Neo was not the One. He was the last of six. If anyone was The One, it was The Oracle.
 


Matrix Director Lilly Wachowski Has an Important Message for Elon Musk and Ivanka Trump
By Halle Kiefer@hallekiefer

Photo: Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images
Once you make something and release it into the wild, you no longer have control over it, a fact no creator is more acutely aware of, and presumably bummed by, than Matrix filmmaker Lilly Wachowski. Well, maybe the guy who drew Pepe the Frog, but Wachowski is the creator who had a special message for Elon Musk and Ivanka Trump on Sunday when the former encouraged his followers to “take the red pill,” a reference to the 1999 smash action movie Wachowski directed with sister Lana Wachowski.
In The Matrix, taking a red pill allows Keanu Reeves’s protagonist, Neo, to recognize that he, along with the rest of humanity, is trapped inside a computer-generated reality. In the parlance of our times, the red pill typically refers to men’s rights activists or, more broadly, any assortment of conservative and conspiracy ideologies. Based on Elon Musk’s recent behavior, his red pill presumably refers to breaking quarantine in the face of the coronavirus pandemic. Either way, Lilly Wachowksi has a message for his misuse of The Matrix, and for Ivanka’s endorsement retweet, which you can read below.
 
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Can't wait to see this still, too bad Fishburne or Hugo Weaving as well aren't in it. Will it still be released in the theatres though? This virus situation isn't improving.
 
The 1st one was the best and that's because they stole the script from Sophia Stewart. So now the Wachowski brothers want to reboot the franchise after their "gender change". The reboot will most likely be froth with their agenda and I have no faith in the writing from those two transformers.

Nah, I'm good.

breh....that woman's story is as real as tommy hilfigger going on oprah and saying he doesnt make clothes for ni66ers....

we really have to stop with these conspiracy theories
 
in the 1st movie they wanted the character switch to be a man in the real world and when he went into the matrix he would be a woman. the studio said nah at the time. i expect there will be a character like that in this one.

Even back then, they just couldn't help adding their alphabet agenda on top of the stolen script
 
He didn't have to fight. As we saw in the originals, there were plenty of old folks in the movies that played important characters. He could have been an oracle type character, like he plays in John Wick.


He wasn't that integral to me
Felt like his story was done no?

His mission was to find the one
He did
 
He wasn't that integral to me
Felt like his story was done no?

His mission was to find the one
He did
I see your point. However, two things:

1.Technically, the the third film had finished off the entire story, namely by Reeves' character sacrificing himself to save both the human race and the matrix. Yet, they are finding some way to bring Reeves back into the fold.

2. Since they are bringing Reeves back, it wouldn't be too much to bring back Fishburne as some sort of Matrix training master, or at this point, he has retired from being a ship captain and has become a major political figure at this stage of his life.
 
I see your point. However, two things:

1.Technically, the the third film had finished off the entire story, namely by Reeves' character sacrificing himself to save both the human race and the matrix. Yet, they are finding some way to bring Reeves back into the fold.

2. Since they are bringing Reeves back, it wouldn't be too much to bring back Fishburne as some sort of Matrix training master, or at this point, he has retired from being a ship captain and has become a major political figure at this stage of his life.


Could possibly be but my thoughts are that his story had run its course and adding him might be harder to pull off and ruin the movie.
It can go either way... it can be oh they didn't need him or it could be wow we missed him
alternatively, he could have a cameo and people not be happy with that or its forced and people say he was better off out of the movie

his story wasn't robbed so im ok with it
 


There's obviously more to this story. I'm kind of surprised Keanu went along with this. They re-team for two John Wick movies, but not another Matrix flick? :confused:

Keanu definitely has to clout to make it happen. This all seems very disrespectful.

Unless there's bad blood between some parties, maybe it has something to do with the plot. And even if he died in the video game, nobody wants to see a beloved character die off screen. Maybe the young Morpheus rumors are true. Even though they look nothing alike, we don't know who Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is playing in the movie.
 
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Could possibly be but my thoughts are that his story had run its course and adding him might be harder to pull off and ruin the movie.
It can go either way... it can be oh they didn't need him or it could be wow we missed him
alternatively, he could have a cameo and people not be happy with that or its forced and people say he was better off out of the movie

his story wasn't robbed so im ok with it
There's obviously more to this story. I'm kind of surprised Keanu went along with this. They re-team for two John Wick movies, but not another Matrix flick? :confused:

Keanu definitely has to clout to make it happen. This all seems very disrespectful.

Unless there's bad blood between some parties, maybe it has something to do with the plot. And even if he died in the video game, nobody wants to see a beloved character die off screen. Maybe the young Morpheus rumors are true. Even though they look nothing alike, we don't know who Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is playing in the movie.

 















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