Marvin Gaye's Children Use Audio Mashup to Prove 'Blurred Lines' Is Infringing

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3:33 PM PDT 9/8/2014 by Eriq Gardner

In a court submission, the vocal material of "Blurred Lines" plays over the instrumental of "Got to Give It Up," and vice versa

On Monday, Marvin Gaye's children delivered a message to a California federal judge: Hearing is believing, so listen up.

Nona Gaye, Frankie Gaye and Marvin Gaye III have now filed their summary judgment papers in a lawsuit over "Blurred Lines" and are pointing the judge to recorded depositions and media interviews given by producer Pharrell Williams and singer Robin Thicke. The children have also submitted an audio mash-up that's intended to serve as "concrete musical illustrations of the substantial similarities" between last year's huge hit and Gaye's "Got to Give it Up."
Williams and Thicke filed their preemptive lawsuit in August 2013 seeking a declaration of noninfringement. This past July, the plaintiffs suggested in their own summary judgment papers that the Gayes "smelled money" when asserting a copyright infringement. The Gaye children indeed fired counterclaims in October 2013, but they want it noted who sued first.
According to the Gayes' bid for summary judgment, "Not only was it, therefore, Thicke and Williams who actually 'smelled money,' but it was they who then played the role of bully by suing Marvin Gaye's children when the Gaye children had the temerity to question why their father was not credited, or why 'Got to Give it Up' was not licensed, betting that the Gaye children would not have the will or resources to fight this battle. Thicke and Williams bet wrong, and they will now have to face the consequences of their misjudgment and their blatant copyright infringement."
The counterclaimants look to use statements from Williams and Thicke as admissions of guilt. Unfortunately, much of the deposition testimony has been sealed and redacted, but according to a declaration by the Gayes' lawyer, Richard Busch, Williams has stated that he envisioned himself as Marvin Gaye while making the song. Other media interviews are cited as well. In one, Thicke said that "Got to Give it Up" is one of his "favorite songs of all time" and that he went into the studio and said, "You know, Pharrell, I'd love to make something like this."
In theory, the Gaye children should have an easier time on their counterclaims than most plaintiffs in copyright litigation. Under what's known as the "inverse-ratio rule," a lower standard of proof of similarity is necessary when a high degree of "access" is shown. The Gaye children say that with or without the application of the inverse-ration rule, they should prevail.
To that end, they have produced for the judge's ears a mash-up — quite possibly the first time ever in a courtroom that a mash-up has been exploited to prove copyright infringement. In the recording, the vocal material of "Blurred Lines" plays over the instrumental of "Got to Give It Up," and vice versa. "This material sounds like a perfect, natural match because it blends sonically," says the summary judgment memorandum.
If that's not enough, the Gayes have two expert musicologists describing eight substantial similarities: "(1) the signature phrase in the main vocal melodies; (2) the hooks; (3) the hooks with backup vocals; (4) the core theme in 'Blurred Lines' and backup hook in 'Got to Give it Up'; (5) the backup hooks; (6) the bass melodies; (7) the keyboard parts; and (8) the unusual percussion choices."

As a preemptive strike, the plaintiffs dismissed these as "unprotectable, commonplace ideas," but the counterclaimants retort they are distinctive. Take the bass melodies, for instance. Both songs are said by the musicologists to have "two-measure phrases, which leave space in the middle of each of the bars, rhythms and points of harmonic arrival. This is not simply an element of a genre, as it is unusual to have bass lines in R&B that leave this much space in the middle of the bar."
The Gayes also reject the notion that other songs constitute prior art. War's "Low Rider" isn't "rhythmically similar," they say; Curtis Mayfield's "Superfly" isn't "consistent with the disco pattern in the songs here"; and the cowbell on Lipps Inc.'s "Funkytown" "plays continuous sixteenth notes rather than a Latin time keeping rhythm."
The full summary judgment papers are below — absent the mash-up, which we hope to provide soon — and also argue why Thicke's "Love After War" should be seen as an infringement of Gaye's "After the Dance." Finally, attorneys for the Gaye children attempt to convince U.S. District Judge John Kronstadt on the legal standards on which to weigh both songs when ruling.
"They filed papers insulting the family of the great Marvin Gaye," says Busch. "We responded with the facts and the law. Beyond that, everything we have to say is in our papers, including the expert reports and audio files submitted therewith."
The decision should be coming in the coming months. A jury trial has been scheduled for February 10, 2015.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/marvin-gayes-children-use-audio-731178?facebook_20140908
 
imoses, wernt you one of the most vocal posters telling us these people had no shot at winning this suit or even pursuing this claim?
 
imoses, wernt you one of the most vocal posters telling us these people had no shot at winning this suit or even pursuing this claim?
You are mistaken, sir. I have always vehemently argued on BGOL that 'Blurred Lines' is a blatant ripoff. I was the cat that argued against those who claimed non-infringement.
 
So basically, Pherrell and Thicke underestimated their opponent and will therefore pay MORE than they would have if they'd have admitted this last year and settled. Ray Parker Jr. settled and a whole other bunch of artists who accidentally or purposefully borrowed/stole pieces of music to make their hits, now these two think they are different? they got caught. Pay up
 
So basically, Pherrell and Thicke underestimated their opponent and will therefore pay MORE than they would have if they'd have admitted this last year and settled. Ray Parker Jr. settled and a whole other bunch of artists who accidentally or purposefully borrowed/stole pieces of music to make their hits, now these two think they are different? they got caught. Pay up
So it appears.

Previously, music copyright infringement cases have used a "7 note" rule - which is to say that the offending song would have to contain a match of seven consecutive melodic notes - as compared to the original song.

I have always maintained that criteria is insufficient - as it completely ignores other musical elements that can make up - individually or collectively - the bulk of a song's "sound". Also, under the current model, you could have a copycat song that copied exactly a song's main melodic hook - but change just one of the 7 notes. On THAT basis, a suit could be lost (think Me'Shell NdegeOcello's 1993 song, "Outside Your Door" vs. Brian McKnight's 1997 hit, "Anytime").
 
You are mistaken, sir. I have always vehemently argued on BGOL that 'Blurred Lines' is a blatant ripoff. I was the cat that argued against those who claimed non-infringement.

Ok. I was asking. I know there were only a few of us who called it a rip off. You refreshed my memory a bit and i think you were the one with experience in the industry who argued against the culture vulture.
 
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I still say no case - Blurred Lines has just enough different (especially melody) to be original in the current standard
if the Gaye family wins this, it'll set a very bad precedent...
 
This shit is still happening? Yes it was a "infringement" on the original. Its quite obvious. Just pay the family the money and move on.
 
I'd love to hear from the dumbass poster here on BGOL that tried to say Pherrell didn't do anything wrong and you can't copyright a groove when I stated the obvious last year. Nigga please. Only an idiot would say he didn't bite Marvin Gaye's song with Blurred Lines.
 
Ok. I was asking. I know there were only a few of us who called it a rip off. You refreshed my memory a bit and i think you were the one with experience in the industry who argued against the culture vulture.

I'd love to hear from the dumbass poster here on BGOL that tried to say Pherrell didn't do anything wrong and you can't copyright a groove when I stated the obvious last year. Nigga please. Only an idiot would say he didn't bite Marvin Gaye's song with Blurred Lines.
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EMI was correct in telling the family not to sue because blurred lines is not a sample. In music having a similar sound is not copyright infringement. The family will more than likely lose the case and the money they were paid in the settlement.
Told y'all. Somebody steering that family wrong
baseless claim that will lose in court but tarnish Thickes image a bit
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=749974&page=7&highlight=marvin+gaye
 
To the contrary, NOW is when it's starting to get interesting... heh.

I still think the Gaye estate will lose the case. I think what Pharell & Thicke did falls just outside of infringement. Admittedly, they are as close to that line as one can get, but by a legal definition I don't think that they crossed it.

We'll all see when a court decides.
 
Music plagiarism is the use or close imitation of another author's music while representing it as one's own original work. Plagiarism in music now occurs in two contexts—with a musical idea (that is, a melody or motif) or sampling (taking a portion of one sound recording and reusing it in a different song). For a legal history of the latter see sampling.


Any music that follows rules of a musical scale is limited by the ability to use a small number of notes. The seven-note diatonic scale is the foundation of the European musical tradition.
No artist denies the existence of, and relation between, musical genres. In addition, all forms of music can be said to include patterns. Algorithms (or, at the very least, formal sets of rules) have been used to compose music for centuries; the procedures used to plot voice-leading in Western counterpoint, for example, can often be reduced to algorithmic determinacy.
For these reasons, accidental or "unconscious" plagiarism is possible. As well, some artists abandon the stigma of plagiarism altogether. Composer Dmitri Shostakovich perhaps commented sarcastically on the issue of musical plagiarism with his use of "We Wish You a Merry Christmas," an instantly recognizable tune, in his Prelude No. 15 in D Flat, Op. 87.[1]

According to U.S. copyright law, in the absence of a confession, musicians who accuse others of stealing their work must prove "access"—the alleged plagiarizer must have heard the song—and "similarity"—the songs must share unique musical components.[2] though it is difficult to come to a definition of what is "similarity".

Even if a piece of music is in the public domain and thus not protected by copyright, it may still be plagiarism to copy a portion (or all) of it without attribution. There are many changes in the creation, content, dissemination and consumption of popular music in the 21st century.

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