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Marvin Gaye's Family Files A Lawsuit against robin slhick(he got caught lying)

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<p>Two of <strong>Marvin Gaye's</strong> children are suing <strong>Robin Thicke</strong> claiming his hit <em>"Blurred Lines"</em> is a rip-off of their father's song, <em>"Got to Give It Up."</em></p>
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<p>EMI April, the song's publisher has also been named in the lawsuit. reports <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5770731/marvin-gayes-family-sues-emi-over-robin-thickes-blurred-lines" target="_blank">Billboard</a>.</p>
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<blockquote><p><span>According to the counterclaims, EMI has breached a contract and its fiduciary duty by failing to protect Gaye's songs, attempting to intimidate the family against filing any legal action, failing to remain neutral when faced with a conflict of interest and attempting to turn public opinion against the family. The penalty for those acts, says the Gaye family, should be that EMI loses all profits on "Blurred Lines" as well as rights to administer the song catalog of Gaye, known as the "Prince of Soul."</span></p>
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<p><span>This legal war started in August when the song's producer, <strong>Pharrell Williams</strong>, and Thicke filed preemptive lawsuits against Gaye's family and <strong>Bridgeport Music</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><span>Bridgeport had accused Thicke of illegally sampling <strong>Funkadelic's</strong> song "<em>Funky Ways"</em> off of their 1974 album, <em>Standing on the Verge of Getting It On</em>.</span></p>
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<p><span>Gaye's family said Thicke and Pharrell had copied the "feel" and "sound" of "<em>Got to Give It Up,"</em> which can be found on Marvin's 1977 album, <em>Live at the London Palladium</em>.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Nona Gaye</strong>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<strong>Frankie Christian Gaye</strong> filed their countersuit today. They point to interviews with GQ and Billboard where Thicke admitted that he told Pharrell he wanted to make a song similar to "<em>Got to Give It Up."</em></p>
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<p><span><em>"Pharrell and I were in the studio and I told him that one of my favorite songs of all time was Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up." I was like, 'Damn, we should make something like that, something with that groove.' Then he started playing a little something and we literally wrote the song in about a half hour and recorded it. The whole thing was done in a couple hours—normally, those are the best ones. Him and I would go back and forth where I'd sing a line and he'd be like, 'Hey, hey, hey!' We started acting like we were two old men on a porch hollering at girls like, 'Hey, where you going, girl? Come over here!' That's why, in the video, we're doing all these old men dances. It was great,"</em> Thicke told&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2013/05/robin-thicke-interview-blurred-lines-music-video-collaborating-with-2-chainz-and-kendrick-lamar-mercy.html" target="_blank">GQ</a></span><span><br> <br>
In a later interview with TMZ, Robin completely changed his tune and said Gaye's song wasn't the inspiration for <em>"Blurred Lines."</em></span></p>
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<p>Nona and Frankie presented&nbsp;an expert report by musicologist, <strong>Judith Finell</strong>, who identified&nbsp;"at least eight substantially similar compositional features" with Gaye's song.</p>
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<p><span><span>The Gaye family also contends that&nbsp;<span>Robin's song <em>"Love After War"</em> is a copy of the Marvin's hit, <em>"After the Dance."</em></span><span><br> <br>
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<p><span><span><span>EMI is the co-publisher of Pharrell and co-owns "<em>Blurred Lines."</em> They also are administrators for Gaye's "Got to Give It Up" and "After the Dance." Marvin's family says they trusted EMI to protect those copyrights. They feel that EMI didn't do that due to a conflict of interest.</span></span></span></p>
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<p><span><span><span><span>"Not only did EMI fail to bring this action, which is necessary to carry out EMI’s duties to protect the Gaye Family’s copyrights," says the countersuit, "EMI attempted to dissuade the Gaye Family from pursuing this action by repeated threats and tactics to intimidate the Gaye Family and its representatives."</span></span></span></span></p>
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<p>Listen to "Blurred Lines" and "Got to Give It Up" below and let us know if you think Pharrell and Thicke ripped ripped Gaye off.<br> <br>
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<p>Marvin Gaye "Got to Give It Up"<br> <br>
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<p>Robin Thicke - Blurred Lines ft. T.I., Pharrell<br> <br>
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<p>Marvin Gay's son says Robin Thicke has made a career out of ripping off his father's music<br> <br>
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<p>Robin Thicke denies similarities between "Blurred Lines" and "Got to Give It Up"</p>
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Man it looks like Gaye's son is going to sue, win the case then get sued by that sneaky looking white broad, only to have her get banged by Thick and him take her money..
 
Marvin the 3rd is such a simp he had to bring his wife with him to the interview :smh: . If I was rich and famous I would tell my kids they wont get shit unless they go to college and make something out of themself.
 
Nona and Frankie presented an expert report by musicologist, Judith Finell, who identified "at least eight substantially similar compositional features" with Gaye's song.
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Where are all the Thicke supporters and apologist and self professed musical professionals who told us up and down that this song was nothing like Marvins and how Thicke didnt steal a thing?

I swear this is why its hard to take some of you cats seriously when you speak as experts in a field you claim to make a living in. Its usually the so-called music producers on here that always turn out to be full of shit.
 
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Amajorfucup said:
Where are all the Thicke supporters and apologist and self professed musical professionals who told us up and down that this song was nothing like Marvins and how Thicke didnt steal a thing?

I swear this is why its hard to take some of you cats seriously when you speak as experts in a field you claim to make a living in. Its usually the so-called music producers on here that always turn out to be full of shit.
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Fam, I'm posing this question to you because I know I'll get a sensible answer:
Is that lawsuit even possible?
Even if he said that he wanted to recreate a song that had the same feel as "gotta give it up", isn't that a tribute of sorts? If the original wasn't sampled, what is the legal basis for this suit?

PS. I read the article...

:yes: Yessir :yes:
 
EchoCrash said:
Fam, I'm posing this question to you because I know I'll get a sensible answer:
Is that lawsuit even possible?
Even if he said that he wanted to recreate a song that had the same feel as "gotta give it up", isn't that a tribute of sorts? If the original wasn't sampled, what is the legal basis for this suit?

PS. I read the article...

:yes: Yessir :yes:
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Yes. The lawsuit is very possible and with merit imo. Most blatantly for copyright infringement. Where it goes from there i have no idea as im not versed in what legally defines and qualifies as infringement for musical purposes. Im sure experts and case law will assist in making that determination.
 
Amajorfucup said:
Yes. The lawsuit is very possible and with merit imo. Most blatantly for copyright infringement. Where it goes from there i have no idea as im not versed in what legally defines and qualifies as infringement for musical purposes. Im sure experts and case law will assist in making that determination.
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EMI was correct in telling the family not to sue because blurred lines is not a sample. In music having a similar sound is not copyright infringement. The family will more than likely lose the case and the money they were paid in the settlement.
 
Gaye's family said Thicke and Pharrell had copied the "feel" and "sound" of "Got to Give It Up," which can be found on Marvin's 1977 album, Live at the London Palladium.
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Feel? Sound? I hope they got more to support their lawsuit than feel and sound. :smh:
 
BrownTurd said:
EMI was correct in telling the family not to sue because blurred lines is not a sample. In music having a similar sound is not copyright infringement. The family will more than likely lose the case and the money they were paid in the settlement.
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What settlement sir?
 
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What settlement sir?
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I thought I read the family back in August agreed to a settlement. on Google it has some saying rejected and others saying accepted. Did they reject the settlement?

If their case is on the sound and feel...that will be very tough I assume
 
EchoCrash said:
Fam, I'm posing this question to you because I know I'll get a sensible answer:
Is that lawsuit even possible?
Even if he said that he wanted to recreate a song that had the same feel as "gotta give it up", isn't that a tribute of sorts? If the original wasn't sampled, what is the legal basis for this suit?

PS. I read the article...

:yes: Yessir :yes:
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Its like this, if the song hadn't made any money, I think the gaye clan would have ignored it just like everyone else.
 
You can't sue someone for having a similarly sounding song. That's not copyright infringement. If that were the case there would be no new music, at all.
 
BrownTurd said:
I thought I read the family back in August agreed to a settlement. on Google it has some saying rejected and others saying accepted. Did they reject the settlement?

If their case is on the sound and feel...that will be very tough I assume
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Why are you asking me? You made the assertion that the family would lose "the case and the money they were paid in the settlement". That is a factual statement on your part that a settlement was paid. Why would you make such a statement if it wernt true?

I am however glad to see you switch your tone from 'pseudo expert' to one of 'unsure opinionated layperson' while using terms like "thought" and "assume" and "if".
 
Amajorfucup said:
Why are you asking me? You made the assertion that the family would lose "the case and the money they were paid in the settlement". That is a factual statement on your part that a settlement was paid. Why would you make such a statement if it wernt true?

I am however glad to see you switch your tone from 'pseudo expert' to one of 'unsure opinionated layperson' while using terms like "thought" and "assume" and "if".
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:lol::lol::lol::smh:
 
Amajorfucup said:
Why are you asking me? You made the assertion that the family would lose "the case and the money they were paid in the settlement". That is a factual statement on your part that a settlement was paid. Why would you make such a statement if it wernt true?

I am however glad to see you switch your tone from 'pseudo expert' to one of 'unsure opinionated layperson' while using terms like "thought" and "assume" and "if".
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
playahaitian said:
* props to the members who called this WAY back...

And Now Marvin Gaye’s Family Will Sue Robin Thicke

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Back in August, Robin Thicke and Pharrell filed a preemptive lawsuit against Marvin Gaye's family, telling them to back off with copyright infringement claims. That did not work out. The family filed a counterclaim today that alleges Thicke copied both "Got to Give It Up" (for "Blurred Lines")

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The suit points to multiple interviews in which Thicke himself admits a debt to Gaye and singles out critics who made the comparison. The family is also suing EMI — which works with both parties — for "failing to protect Gaye's songs" and for bullying them against legal action. In summary: This fight is really on.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2013/10/robin-thicke-marvin-gaye-blurred-lines-lawsuit
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playahaitian said:
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I loved the version of “Blurred Lines” that the Roots did with Robin Thicke. I have to ask you about “Blurred Lines”/“Got to Give It Up” controversy. Where do you come down on the question of whether Thicke and Pharrell stole Marvin Gaye’s song?

There are two elephants in the room. Elephant No. 1 is the “Elvising” of the situation. It’s been historically noted that white artists have borrowed from black artists and have done better financially as a result.

No. 2: I know that a lot of women are angry about this song. But it’s kind of weird that a lot of the women who have come to me saying, “Yo, this is the rapiest, most sexist song I’ve heard in my life!” — but they’re the first people who want me to spin it at clubs!

I know there are people who will look at me weirdly. I’m siding with Robin Thicke; I’m going against the estate of Marvin Gaye. And I’m definitely anti-misogynist — even after the Michele Bachman incident. I’m definitely a feminist at heart. But at the end of the day, you know, Huey Lewis and Ray Parker Jr. went through this with “Ghostbusters.” George Harrison went through this with “My Sweet Lord” and the “He’s So Fine” thing with the Chiffons.

There’s a thin line, but for the sake of hip-hop culture: Look, technically it’s not plagiarized. It’s not the same chord progression. It’s a feeling. Because there’s a cowbell in it and a fender Rhodes as the main instrumentation — that still doesn’t make it plagiarized. We all know it’s derivative. That’s how Pharrell works. Everything that Pharrell produces is derivative of another song — but it’s an homage.​

If it were a case of melodic plagiarism, I would definitely side with the estate. But in this case — yes, the song is douchey, in a kind of a fun way. I know the history of the “Elvising” of music. But I’m still siding with Pharrell and Robin on this one.​
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Stevie Wonder thinks Marvin Gaye's family should take higher ground (see what we did there) legally speaking -- because their crappy lawyer is getting them into a lawsuit with Robin Thicke they can't win.

Stevie was fired up when we got him outside LAX, and says the fuss about "Blurred Lines" possibly ripping off Marvin's hit "Got to Give it Up" ... is stupid.

Stevie knows what he's talking about here ... remember he and Marvin were contemporaries during Motown's golden age -- and he says he's dealt with similar lawsuits himself.

Stevie delivers a direct message to Marvin's son. He might wanna pay attention.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/23/stevi...ily-blurred-lines-robin-thicke/#ixzz2jJIykkzf
 
playahaitian said:
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Stevie Wonder thinks Marvin Gaye's family should take higher ground (see what we did there) legally speaking -- because their crappy lawyer is getting them into a lawsuit with Robin Thicke they can't win.

Stevie was fired up when we got him outside LAX, and says the fuss about "Blurred Lines" possibly ripping off Marvin's hit "Got to Give it Up" ... is stupid.

Stevie knows what he's talking about here ... remember he and Marvin were contemporaries during Motown's golden age -- and he says he's dealt with similar lawsuits himself.

Stevie delivers a direct message to Marvin's son. He might wanna pay attention.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/23/stevi...ily-blurred-lines-robin-thicke/#ixzz2jJIykkzf
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Thank you Stevie. Lawyer got them spending money claiming he can get them a huge pay day cuz the songs so big

If a case like this DID happen to go against Robin the music game would be turned in its ear.

Stevie would have to give Hall and Oates money for making part time lover cuz it's influenced by Maneater.

I saw lalah Hathaway if all people making slick remarks about the song.

I find that funny cuz her dad used a groove on "love love love" that he ADMITTED was influenced by Marvin Gaye in his liner notes.


There's SO MANY songs in the world influenced by other songs on the level Thicke was inspired by Marvin. Can't copyright no beat.

If that was the case ALL HOUSE MUSIC is over
 

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