Mario Van Peebles Speaks on Spike & Tyler perry Beef
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i agree 100%
I agree with what mario says, but he is in the minority on this. Unfortunately blacks in the United States love and cater to bullshit. There are so many roots which you can trace this too, not to knock those who play sports or rap, but that is the common goal. White America says billy and Cindy should be doctors or Lawyers. Black America says the complete opposite, aspire to be a fool or a gangster, if not try a "black" sport or aim to be a Mainstream rapper.
Its like you have a tree with apples which are healthy and sweet, or you have a store with candy. Which do you think blacks will go to. A movie named Krews kinda hit the mark on some shit. Dude said He doesn't hate blacks because of race, he hates blacks cause they are stupid. The muthafucker even broke it down so the cali dude could understand it. As long as we think small and cater to bullshit that will be the main focus of our race for decades to come. Look at the big picture and aspire to gain that. Yeah its hard when you get use to something that works to meet your means. But its not gonna hurt to try to exceed your means either
Its like you have a tree with apples which are healthy and sweet, or you have a store with candy. Which do you think blacks will go to. A movie named Krews kinda hit the mark on some shit. Dude said He doesn't hate blacks because of race, he hates blacks cause they are stupid. The muthafucker even broke it down so the cali dude could understand it. As long as we think small and cater to bullshit that will be the main focus of our race for decades to come. Look at the big picture and aspire to gain that. Yeah its hard when you get use to something that works to meet your means. But its not gonna hurt to try to exceed your means either
So from the 6 min mark to the 9 min mark was to much for you
video says 9 minutes long
i agree with Mario too, but we as consumers are willing to only support the buffoonery. Money talks.
c/s...lack of diversity in black cinema is NOT perry's fault..
First time I'm seeing Video Powell
That shit is funnyHowever... Not really needed on this one
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Thats wassup!
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here these niggas come with throwing around the word "hate". there wasn't one bit of hate in anything he said.
Van peebles acknowledges that.
Rick Ronson
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nah bruh this shit is on purpose and niggas supporting it makes
it worse cause now thats what they are gonna put money behind
its seriously not that simple.
If anything this nigga will open the flood gates for more
ignorant shit...notice how the flood gates were open for
ignorant shit once NWA and all the counterproductive self
destructive minded niggas came into the picture. It became
you had to be on some ignorant shit to get signed.
Black music still hasnt rebounded from the damage done from the imbalance.
If you notice rich black people aint reaching into their own
pockets to fund black projects which is more of the problem
if anything.
Oprah aint fucking with black movies
Bob johnson was clearly willing to be a part of the problem
Magic Johnson aint funding shit but rent a centers.
Bill Cosby would rather run his mouth about niggas than help.
Shit is fucked up so any chance there should be used wisely.
You just got so many ignorant and blind to a solution ass niggas
out here who just happy to see a black man making money fuck the
fact that he only shows a clown ass side of black people.
They dont understand how it affects black people on a large
scale and of course you have those that dont give a fuck.
It is hate because the people who do the most talking never do anything to help the problem. All they do is heckle from the sidelines.
They can make a movie just as easy as T...P but they come up with a million excuses
The problem aint Tyler or the movies he makes, the problem is no matter how much bafoonery is said to be in his movies, most black people can think of at least one older person that acts like Madea or the rest of the characters in his movies and it hurts to see something so ignorant and know that thats what others see when the look at the person you know. The truth hurts and the truth is there are many different faces to black people and the faces that he shows are faces that exist. For Spike and Mario and other film makers that disagree, they need to get off they ass and make something new instead of complaining about another successful black man.
GOT D@MN that -ish was refreshingly civil and on point from 7:15 on!! I swear these cats that hate on Cosby have no F-N clue how significant his vision of African American's was on us, but more importantly how it opened the eyes of whites towards who we were. Tyler is killing me with the buffoonery and constant angry, loud -mouth, black woman images. And some of us are eating it up like candy. Great drop!
yea, but ignoring that allows them to go with their "everybody hates tyler" defense.
good shit.
tyler perry defenders simply don't get it... van peoples explained it clearly... "HOLLYWOOD chooses who makes it" by supporting tyler perry coonfests you idiots are telling hollywood black people are only loud, buffoons and coons... thats on y'all! he was damn right the generation that voted obama into office was cosby watchers, i grew up on cosby to this day fictional or not claire huxtable is the personification of class and complete black womanhood and michelle obama is the next best thing. but y'all tyler perry defenders like that ignorant shit, that preachy shit that coon shit and won't support anything else and y'all say anything not tyler perry is corny and boring.
thats y there is no black sci fi, no black police shows no black medical dramas, no black family shows... only this coon shit that y'all vote for with your wallets... tyler perry comes out and y'all fuckers plan weekends to see that crap and boost his numbers but let something thought provoking come out and y'all will sit on your asses or bootleg it...bootleg tyler perry and support real black films! stop supporting negative imagery like precious too... yes in our community the bad shit happens but it does not need to be promoted and popular b/c of us.
i pray the backlash against tyler and his bullshit leads to a film revolution more intelligent real black film and less tyler perry crap... instead once a year he can cross dress and make movies once every 5 yrs or some shit...
the black race is the most powerful race on this fucking planet if we get our collective heads out our asses and stop settling for simpleton coon shit for a few laughs...we can be a real force for change if we as a community allow ourselves but we won't b/c we'd rather yuck it up and live up to the negative stereotypes rather than fight tooth and nail to dispel them.
thats y there is no black sci fi, no black police shows no black medical dramas, no black family shows... only this coon shit that y'all vote for with your wallets... tyler perry comes out and y'all fuckers plan weekends to see that crap and boost his numbers but let something thought provoking come out and y'all will sit on your asses or bootleg it...bootleg tyler perry and support real black films! stop supporting negative imagery like precious too... yes in our community the bad shit happens but it does not need to be promoted and popular b/c of us.
i pray the backlash against tyler and his bullshit leads to a film revolution more intelligent real black film and less tyler perry crap... instead once a year he can cross dress and make movies once every 5 yrs or some shit...
the black race is the most powerful race on this fucking planet if we get our collective heads out our asses and stop settling for simpleton coon shit for a few laughs...we can be a real force for change if we as a community allow ourselves but we won't b/c we'd rather yuck it up and live up to the negative stereotypes rather than fight tooth and nail to dispel them.
$this-^
I defend tyler's right to make whatever he wants to make..and while MVP acknowledges it he's acting like its the only thing out there...and for people like him and spike to talk like they can't do NOW because of tyler comes off kinda bullshitty IMO..
what an ignorant coon...all girl like in his response putting his hand in the air like a bitch... fuckin faggot...u can tell he had no strong black man in his life, probably why his ass got raped, he's weak... then he claims to be a Christian... he needs a drop squad visit. how about admitting your material is crap and striving to do better, how bout putting some intelligence into your work...shit how about acting like a man instead of a woman trapped in a man's body your cross dressing coon...spike wasn't the 1st to say anything others have...instead of doing the corny defense "no one else does it" how bout stop lying and admit other races do, do it....when jersey shore came out that raised a ruckus... there was nothing offensive about seinfeld...every other race gets the respect they earn...the black race doesn't want respect so they settle for cooning and some laughs..
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Good shit.
Here we go Agentcreed in his Bitchin Kitchen again
stop all that all that yakkin and start writing your shit and build your audience and make your mark..just like Tyler Perry did..
Medea is far from an over night success....as long as he was making plays ya'll ignored his shit and all the while he was building an audience for his shit and his plays made 75 MILLION dollars ALONE and you guys didn't say SHIT because it took the wife, mom and grandma outta the house for a few hours so you could watch the game in peace
now that his shit is mainstream and making millions upon millions..NOW you guys wanna bitch and moan about how much damage its doing..
fuck outta here
all these damn replies, but Mario AND Spike and all of the others had a good 10 years before Tyler Perry even THOUGHT of making a film. Like I said, you don't like it, put out something you do like. As we have seen times without number: black people will support black films. You just gotta make them (all of the gangster flicks as ignorant as they were from the late 80s to early 90s; all of the feel good movies in the 90s; the silly ass Wayans flicks; and take it back to the first blaxploitation films from the 70s which had the worst stereotypes and ignorance: black people have and will always support black films--you just have to make them). So Spike, Mario and all the other loud mouths: where them films at?
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