Luke getting cooked on Black political twitter

Walter Panov

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:smh::smh::smh:

Again, you don't know that, therefore you are making that up.

A leading question is a question that prompts or encourages the desired answer.

If you assume Luke was trying to imply that there's no reason vote for Democrats and that they fulfilled no promises then you'll assume the question is leading.

But you don't know his position and intent, not by the words he used in that particular tweet, so you can't classify that as a leading question.

This is the same thing the LGBTQ does anytime someone questions their agenda!! They call you homophobic and say you're attacking them, for not automatically agreeing with EVERYTHING they say. And sometimes the people they attack for questioning them are actually on their side but their insecurity leads them to assume that anybody that doesn't bow down to or bend over for them is their arch enemy.
You know the question Luke is asking is why can't my umbrella stop the rain that's falling on my neighbor's yard. It's a fucking stupid question.
 

Lattimore

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Bunch of dudes in here are really doing a lot of mental gymnastics because of Luke. Anyone in here saying all he was doing was asking a question hasn't been paying attention. Yeah he asked a question.. but he asked the same question that every "don't vote" black person start with before they go into their narrative about how black people need to withold vote. So that sit on here and to act like Luke is innocent and misunderstood is bullshit. We've seen that same question a million times even in this message board so to say it was just a question is laughable.


You are 100% correct.

The first part of Lukes question was "Give me five reasons why Black people should Vote in the next election." The implication of the question is clear, if you can't name five reasons then perhaps black people "SHOULD NOT" vote in the next election. Being that blacks overwhelmingly vote for Democrats, the follow up question in Lukes tweet "Give me five BLACK promises that has been fulfilled by politicians in the last election. MAYOR & PRESIDENT," is clearly pointed at Democrats. Anyone even trying to suggest otherwise- including Luther Campbell- is full of shit and trying very hard to appear objective when they obviously are not.
 

jlwchief

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At the end of the day, you and I both know that at some point we will see more black folk getting caught up in the system over abortions than white folks, especially if the abortion stats are believed to be true. What Joy said does have some merit.


If she stated it like you just then, which was well put...then I will give her credit. Also, it is not just Joy...it's other media personalities as well as the politicians making it seem as if black women are aborting babies at a high rate.
 

jlwchief

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How can you vote a 70+ year old out of office when they're only putting 70+ year olds in front of you to vote for? You're basically exchanging one 70+ year old person for another.

When does this stop? How can we make it stop?

Start on the local level. Also we need to vote in all primaries because they have younger individuals we can vote for, but the majority of voters come out in a general election. We need more turnout for every local and state, not just the general election to make a difference.
 

ghoststrike

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The responses to Luke actually cheered me up a bit. After Buffalo and the shooter basically being the embodiment of the GOP's platform, we still had folks around here shitting on dems like the GOP or doing nothing is a good alternative. I was like screw everybody at that point, because they are just too stupid to learn. So God help us all once everything hits the fan, should dems not prevail. Now I have a lil hope that most black folks aren't falling for the don't vote propraganda. Just a lil, but I'll take it.

They're not

With 200% increase, Voters in places like GA are saying hope aboard or get TF out of out the way.

"A major day for Georgia politics is driving hundreds of thousands of voters to the polls. Indeed, a record number of people have already cast their ballots, according to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

As of Thursday, more than 600,000 Georgians had voted early in the state's primaries -- nearly a 200% increase from the same point in 2018.

Much of the interest centers on the Republican contenders and who will advance to November's general election in this emerging battleground state. The Democrats' two major contenders for governor and Senate -- Stacey Abrams and Raphael Warnock, respectively -- are likely to sail to victory with little-to-no pushback as they each prepare for stiffer fights in the fall."



 

cashwhisperer

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Look up above this post. What say you?

I had no idea about his previous tweet, so I can see where you would classify his 2nd tweet, the one being discussed, as being leading.

My perspective was based off of the single tweet in question.

I still maintain that his question is valid and Black people should continually ask this question of politicians, whether you have faith in them or not.

I find it highly suspicious that after 60 years of supporting Democrats, they conveniently can only do so much specifically for us because Republicans ALWAYS find a way to block their efforts. That sounds like bullshit to me.

Asian hoes got shot up, Anti-Asian bill gets signed.
Black grandmas get shot up, what's the status of the Anti-Black bill?

The anti-Black bill is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa nigga waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past due.
 

BKF

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I had no idea about his previous tweet, so I can see where you would classify his 2nd tweet, the one being discussed, as being leading.

My perspective was based off of the single tweet in question.

I still maintain that his question is valid and Black people should continually ask this question of politicians, whether you have faith in them or not.

I find it highly suspicious that after 60 years of supporting Democrats, they conveniently can only do so much specifically for us because Republicans ALWAYS find a way to block their efforts. That sounds like bullshit to me.

Asian hoes got shot up, Anti-Asian bill gets signed.
Black grandmas get shot up, what's the status of the Anti-Black bill?

The anti-Black bill is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa nigga waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past due.
Let me ask you a question. If dems pass and sign a bill that's advertised as the "Anti Black" bill into law that is not exclusively just about or for black folk. Would you be good with that?
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

Black Americans are in a fucked up position politically. We have no teeth by which to bite so our threats are useless

Not necessarily true. We’re 25% of the Dem voting base. In many places, they simply do not win without our support. But they also know that we’re a “captured electorate” since the GOP is hostile to Black civil interests.

 

Gods_Debris

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The Bernie contingent love saying it's always about money cause they can't accept that maybe people aren't as into their ideas as they think. That's what happens when they're online instead of out in the real world.
Bernie? Lol that fucker ain't got nothin for v me either you jackass. I have never in my life big upped Bernie. Larry David maybe.
 

Gods_Debris

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Not necessarily true. We’re 25% of the Dem voting base. In many places, they simply do not win without our support. But they also know that we’re a “captured electorate” since the GOP is hostile to Black civil interests.


Precisely. Only a complete fuckin moron would give it to the repubs without at least kicking up some dust. They legit wanna eradicate your ass.
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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Black voters’ support for Biden has cooled, poll finds
Black voters overwhelmingly support Democrats and still back Biden more than other groups. But that support has fallen, and fewer say the election matters than in 2020.

June 4, 2022 at 10:00 a.m. EDT


As far as Stacy Mumford is concerned, Joe Biden fulfilled the campaign promise that mattered most to her the instant he was inaugurated: simply not being named “Donald Trump.” :rolleyes2: But in the 18 months since then, she hasn’t seen Biden deliver on the myriad promises she believes he made to her and other Black voters. :hmm:

There has been little movement on police reform or voting rights protections. Gas prices in her town of Thomasville, Ga., near the Florida border, approached $4 a gallon this week. Her most recent raise was gobbled up by the rising price of everything, including food and rent. And she worries about the students at the school where she works — because, she says, gun control is another thing Biden has not successfully delivered.

Mumford believes the president is well-intentioned and that his campaign promises were made in good faith. But she’d hoped that a politician who spent 36 years as a senator and eight as vice president “would have more of a deft hand.”

“He’s not really holding up to his end of the bargain,” said Mumford, 49, a school nutritionist. “Some things he’s promised. Some things he’s done. But we are still struggling as a whole. We are all still struggling.”

Like Mumford, roughly 9 in 10 Black voters supported Biden in the 2020 election, but a Washington Post-Ipsos poll of more than 1,200 Black Americans this spring finds what appears to be diminishing support: 7 in 10 approve of President Biden’s job performance, and fewer than one quarter “strongly approve.” A 60 percent majority of Black Americans say Biden is keeping most of his major campaign promises, but 37 percent say he is not.

Writ large, the poll shows much stronger support for Biden in the Black community than among most others groups. But that support is growing less intense among this loyal constituency heading into the midterm elections, and younger Black Americans are significantly less enthusiastic about the president than older ones.

Black registered voters still overwhelmingly support Democratic candidates in the midterms, according to the poll, but they are less likely to say the election matters to them than they did before the Biden-Trump contest, and fewer say they are certain to vote.

Many also expressed relatively little faith in the institution of voting itself: Black Americans are less confident that all eligible citizens will have a fair opportunity to vote than White or Hispanic Americans who were asked the same question.

Black voters are particularly important to the president and the political party he leads. Voters like Mumford helped propel Biden to an 11,779-vote victory in Georgia, the first time a Democratic presidential candidate prevailed in the state since 1992. And two months after Biden won the White House, two Democrats narrowly won Georgia’s Senate seats, handing the party what many Black voters hoped would be a governing majority large enough to enact sweeping changes.

But those changes have been slow in coming, particularly on issues that matter to Black Americans. That’s in part because the Senate is split 50-50 between the parties (with Vice President Harris breaking ties), and passage of most bills through the chamber requires 60 votes.

Efforts to reform police — demands heard nationwide after the murder of George Floyd — stalled in Congress and ended with an executive order that Biden acknowledged did not go as far as he’d hoped even as he signed it. Rising inflation has eaten away at people’s incomes and threatens Biden’s political prospects. The federal government has done little to bolster voting protections, despite a raft of state legislation that activists say puts obstacles between Black people and voting booths.


Asked about the failure of a Democratic voting right effort in the Senate, 46 percent of Black Americans say they are disappointed and another 15 percent say they are angry. But among those with negative reactions, 84 percent blame Biden “a little” or “not at all.”

While several of the people polled who were later contacted by The Post expressed frustration at the slow or nonexistent progress, many stressed that the blame did not lie solely with the president.

Overall, Biden’s 70 percent job approval rating among Black Americans remains much higher than among the public overall. In an April Post-ABC poll, 42 percent of all Americans approved of Biden while 52 percent disapproved.

About two-thirds of Black Americans (66 percent) say that Biden is sympathetic to the problems of Black people in this country while 32 percent say he is not. That’s a decrease from 74 percent who said Biden was sympathetic in 2020, but still contrasts sharply with how Black Americans see the Republican Party. Three-quarters of Black Americans say the Republican Party is racist against Black Americans; a quarter say the same about the Democratic Party.


Republican leaders take issue with the notion that their party is racist and argue that their policies, from low taxes to abortion, are better for the Black community.

“There are voices that say if you’re a poor, Black, single mother like mine, abortion is your best option,” Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), the lone Black Republican in the Senate, tweeted last month. “They must not know that the story of African Americans is one of victory, overcoming odds, & triumph in the face of tragedy.”

But there is little doubt that most Black Americans support Democrats, even in the face of mounting frustrations. Rikki Johnson, a retired police officer from Fredericksburg, Va., said he agrees with many of Biden’s policy positions but believes the president has been outmaneuvered by a Republican Party set on obstruction and let down by a Democratic Party stymied by disunity.

“The Republicans are not going to let (Biden) be successful because it terribly diminishes their chances for 2024,” said Johnson, 60. But he said Biden has also similarly hobbled by his own party and “couldn’t pull the party together to have one thought. If you think about how the Republican Party always attacks, they attack together. The Democratic Party doesn’t attack like a fist, they attack like five fingers. They go in different directions.”

Deanna Whitlow, a 20-year-old college student in Chicago, said she started out with low expectations for Biden, since he followed “someone as extreme as Trump.”

“I honestly feel like I can’t be too picky,” said Whitlow, adding that she approved of Biden’s efforts to expand voting rights and advance climate issues, but believed not enough progress had been made on police reform and abortion rights. She described herself as a Democrat, but said Biden wasn’t her first choice for president.

“I think that it’s good that he’s tried, but with Congress working against him, I’m not surprised [that] nothing grand has happened,” Whitlow said.

But many Black Americans do not let Biden entirely off the hook. They say he has not done enough, for example, to push through changes to a criminal justice system that they widely condemn as slanted against minorities.

Just over 1 in 5 Black Americans say Biden has done “a great deal” or “a good amount” to reduce discrimination in the criminal justice system, while 76 percent say he has done “little” or “nothing.”

Biden has acted unilaterally in some areas to implement police reform. His Justice Department implemented a ban on chokeholds and carotid restraints for federal officers, began requiring agents to wear body cameras, and severely limited the use of “no-knock warrants” like the one that factored into the 2020 killing of Louisville resident Breonna Taylor. But because they are presidential orders and not laws, those changes affect only federal officers and agents, not the thousands of local and state police departments across the country.


Biden also recently pardoned three people and commuted the sentences of 75 nonviolent drug offenders, amid calls for leniency in a system that disproportionately affects people of color.

Age continues to be a dividing line in Black people’s opinions of Biden, continuing a pattern that was first evident in the 2020 presidential primaries. Biden’s approval rating peaks at 86 percent among Black Americans ages 65 and older, but drops to 74 percent among those ages 40-64 and to 60 percent among those ages 18-39. Biden’s approval rating is also much higher among Black registered voters than among those who are not registered to vote, 86 percent vs. 40 percent.

While Biden is not on the ballot, Black voters’ opinions of him mirror their opinions of other Democrats who are up for election. Asked who they support in congressional elections, 88 percent of Black registered voters say they would support the Democratic candidate in their district, similar to Biden’s share of the Black vote in 2020.

But just about half of Black voters, 49 percent, say the outcome of this November’s election matters “a great deal” to them, down from 77 percent who said the same thing about the presidential election in June 2020. Similarly, the share of Black voters who say they are “absolutely certain to vote” has dropped from 85 percent in 2020 to 62 percent this year, a 23-point drop that is larger than the 12-point drop among White voters.

Just about half of Black Americans (49 percent) say the things that Biden is doing as president are either “somewhat” or “very” good for African Americans, while 12 percent say what he’s doing is somewhat or very bad and 37 percent say the things he is doing are neither good nor bad.

Biden has said he is running for reelection, and as the 2024 Democratic primary approaches, 43 percent of Black Democrats say they would prefer Biden to have the nomination, followed by Harris at 29 percent. Seven percent picked Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had 2 percent of respondents volunteer his name, and former first lady Michelle Obama had 1 percent.
Mumford, the school nutritionist from Thomasville, said she is certain to vote in the midterms and in the 2024 presidential election. She has always voted, she said, and considers it her duty as a citizen.
She said she does not align herself with either party, but routinely leaned Democratic in the years of Trump. Now that Trump is gone, she would like to see Democrats govern with the same determination — even ruthlessness — as Republicans did under Trump.

“Trump, to his credit, he kept some of his word,” she said. “I didn’t agree with a lot of it. And it was his racism that I didn’t like. And throwing a temper tantrum in the White House. But he did get results.” (Trump’s defenders say his unorthodox positions and unconventional leadership style are part of what many Americans appreciate about him.)
The Post-Ipsos poll was conducted through the Ipsos KnowledgePanel from April 21 through May 2 among a random national sample of 1,248 non-Hispanic Black adults with a partially overlapping sample of 977 U.S. adults. Results among Black Americans and Americans overall have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

 

tajshan

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Lukes second question is very LEGIT

and I Noticed it was avoided at all cost...!!

Democrats made promises to make gays

and sexual abnormalcy THEIR PRIORITY...

THEY NEVER MADE US THEIR PRIORITY..

that right there in itself.. is enought

to let me know..

Who the REAL enemy of my people are??

The mind fuckery cloud is thick but some of us

see straight through.. it..

am I going to vote.. Of course I am..

Im gonna vote for me to lead me..

and I NEVER let myself down and

fulfill all promises I make to self and others..

RNS!!

God type shit!!
Also remind them they had a chance to make Roe vs. Wade a priority - but didn't. WHY?




























Don't you ever get tired - of having to "save the country" - from ITSELF?
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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Also remind them they had a chance to make Roe vs. Wade a priority - but didn't. WHY?




























Don't you ever get tired - of having to "save the country" - from ITSELF?

yea its crazy how a few people, could get the many to always react

to the controlled stimuli they control in a manner that works against them

all the time...

in favor of the few..its like nobody gets its a scam.. they even got us paying

all the taxes AND DOING ALL THE LABOR and they got the nerve to refer to the masses

as "useless eaters" they are so deserving of constant smacks to wake from that delusion...

So to answer your question, nah I gave up, trying to change minds, instead, I just link up

with like minds.. and it is what it is with everybody else..

Life so much sweeter that way mayne!!
 
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