Lost my job today, and I'm exhausted from working in tech -You?

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I was in a leadership position, and today, I was let go. I managed a whole organization with many managers who reported to me. They're all gone. I've been talking to my now-former boss for the last year about moving into a VP position. He's agreed with me and even told me he was going to make it happen. Then, out of nowhere, this happened—right after I reported some sexual harassment to HR. I've already spoken to a lawyer about the next steps.

I made this post for two reasons. The first is to vent—I'm angry and tired. The second is to see if anyone else has run into this pattern of events.

Looking back over my career, I usually don't have difficulty finding a leadership role with more pay, responsibility, etc. The pattern is that I usually get hired by a great boss. But then, around a year or so later, a new one comes in and takes their place. Then I either start having problems or I don't hear anything for months, even a year. Then, all of a sudden, all at once, I'm suddenly this bad employee and leader, and I'm treated as such. I love technology and my people. Manmy has been reaching out, saying I was their best boss and they loved me. Also, I had the top peakon survey scores for my entire organization for the last two years. If you don't know this, it's an internal survey sent to all employees asking how they feel about their job, boss, bosses, work environment, training, etc. It's a way to gauge if you have a bad leader in place and other things.

Anyway, I did some research and learned that this cycle of events is not new to black males in leadership within technology. Staying that we are held to a higher expectation than others, perceived as bad leaders, often victims to "sudden bad employee" syndrome (I didn't know this was a thing), and that it's just more challenging for our people to move up and stay up in tecnolg9oy. I also learned that this pattern is more common than I realize. The usual state of events I described is usually the set pattern. Get hired by a boss who either supports diversity, hires for the best, or is maybe a supporter. Then, the next person comes in with their existing biases and expectations to have that all "look like me" leadership team. Which I do not fit into. Then, slowly but surely, they start to tear you down, find or create fault, and criticize everything you do.

Anyway, thoughts? I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered this.
 
I feel you on this. I was DHS NOC manager for 5 years. Dug my comapney out of over 600 ticket backlog. Got a new GS14 govy who wanted me to do all kind of stupid shit and I fought back because he was trying to to tell me where and how to assign my personnel. Simple shit like who should sit where and who to put on this or that shift. Nope! Eventually shit came to a head and the next thing i knew my company decides to do a re-org and advertised new positions for anyone to apply to. I never applied so I ended up in a tier 3 position. But they waanted me to babysit the NOC. Nope! So one morning the security manager comes to my desk and says grab you CAC and follow me. So I grabbed my CAC and my shit and got in my car. The whole time he was following me saying I need you to sign this and turn in your CAC. LOL. My boys still laughing about that shit today. Now I work in the next building. Still have my old CAC and I only have work onsite 4x a month. But i was depressed af for about 3 months until another company picked me up. My point is fuck them! Don't ever think they give a fuck about you. And yes I'm tired of this shit but right now I love the fact I get emails and text from the new managers asking me how to do this or that. Crickets! But you gotta do you. I say keep it going until you don't need the $ or you just right out tired of working.
 
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Then, out of nowhere, this happened—right after I reported some sexual harassment to HR. I've already spoken to a lawyer about the next steps.

You will get blacklisted filing some paperwork in court and could be dangerous because of their fragile, emotional state. I was able to observe and learn from the entire process, my employer actually did me a favor by getting rid of me because of the serious injury that I had that I was unaware of.



It becomes public record when you get past the EEOC. If you are near retirement then you might consider filing a lawsuit with limited damage to your career. However, if you are just starting out, it could make your life difficult. You should never have gone to HR to file any complaint, it gives their legal department, a heads up to start documenting against you.

This is why I am loving, not having to work for whites, Asians, or Indians anymore due to their bizarre behavior.
 
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Let me say this... You have a skill, why not use that skill for yourself.

If you can, become an entrepreneur and earn a living with "you" being the boss. You've served others and they've made money off of your talents. Do that same thing for yourself now.

True it's daunting when you look ahead, but the rewards can be massive. Challenge yourself and make it happen. You can do it.

Good luck to you.
 
OP sorry this happened.
It wasn't out of nowhere dude. You played yourself speaking to HR.
I literally saw on Social Media that going to HR about something that could be a lawsuit will automatically get you fired.
This is so that they can delete ALL COMMUNICATION from you.
 
I feel you on this. I was DHS NOC manager for 5 years. Dug my comapney out of over 600 ticket backlog. Got a new GS14 govy who wanted me to do all kind of stupid shit and I fought back because he was trying to to tell me where and how to assign my personnel. Simple shit like who should sit where and who to put on this or that shift. Nope! Eventually shit came to a head and the next thing i knew my company decides to do a re-org and advertised new positions for anyone to apply to. I never applied so I ended up in a tier 3 position. But they waanted me to babysit the NOC. Nope! So one morning the security manager comes to my desk and says grab you CAC and follow me. So I grabbed my CAC and my shit and got in my car. The whole time he was following me saying I need you to sign this and turn in your CAC. LOL. My boys still laughing about that shit today. Now I work in the next building. Still have my old CAC and I only have work onsite 4x a month. But i was depressed af for about 3 months until another company picked me up. My point is fuck them! Don't ever think they give a fuck about you. And yes I'm tired of this shit but right now I love the fact I get emails and text from the new managers asking me how to do this or that. Crickets! But you gotta do you. I say keep it going until you don't need the $ or you just right out tired of working.

I was with you until you kidnapped and kept an old cracker ass cracker. :smh:

I bet you walked out like........

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The Black economy is about to get extremely segregated. If you a have in demand skill set, why not strike out on your own to target these gaps in services available to Black corporations, startups and developers.

Those with means are going to get tired of spending with team MAGA.
 
I was in a leadership position, and today, I was let go. I managed a whole organization with many managers who reported to me. They're all gone. I've been talking to my now-former boss for the last year about moving into a VP position. He's agreed with me and even told me he was going to make it happen. Then, out of nowhere, this happened—right after I reported some sexual harassment to HR. I've already spoken to a lawyer about the next steps.

I made this post for two reasons. The first is to vent—I'm angry and tired. The second is to see if anyone else has run into this pattern of events.

Looking back over my career, I usually don't have difficulty finding a leadership role with more pay, responsibility, etc. The pattern is that I usually get hired by a great boss. But then, around a year or so later, a new one comes in and takes their place. Then I either start having problems or I don't hear anything for months, even a year. Then, all of a sudden, all at once, I'm suddenly this bad employee and leader, and I'm treated as such. I love technology and my people. Manmy has been reaching out, saying I was their best boss and they loved me. Also, I had the top peakon survey scores for my entire organization for the last two years. If you don't know this, it's an internal survey sent to all employees asking how they feel about their job, boss, bosses, work environment, training, etc. It's a way to gauge if you have a bad leader in place and other things.

Anyway, I did some research and learned that this cycle of events is not new to black males in leadership within technology. Staying that we are held to a higher expectation than others, perceived as bad leaders, often victims to "sudden bad employee" syndrome (I didn't know this was a thing), and that it's just more challenging for our people to move up and stay up in tecnolg9oy. I also learned that this pattern is more common than I realize. The usual state of events I described is usually the set pattern. Get hired by a boss who either supports diversity, hires for the best, or is maybe a supporter. Then, the next person comes in with their existing biases and expectations to have that all "look like me" leadership team. Which I do not fit into. Then, slowly but surely, they start to tear you down, find or create fault, and criticize everything you do.

Anyway, thoughts? I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered this.

This is nothing new and has been going on for decades in this country in all fields of work in the private sector and government.

I know cats have stated about going on your own.

That is a difficult thing to do by yourself regardless of what experience you have and capital.

My suggestion is finding other Black Men like yourself in the same trade and pooling your skills together and create your own business. You must know other cats in the same predicament as you or have gone through the same thing recently.

If possible find family members….but you been around long enough and know family could be trouble. You gotta seriously vet family to get folks on the same page.

Now with the Orange Moron back in office with his Motley Crew of idiots, we are going to see more of what happened to you with more of our people.

Get ready.
 
I was in a leadership position, and today, I was let go. I managed a whole organization with many managers who reported to me. They're all gone. I've been talking to my now-former boss for the last year about moving into a VP position. He's agreed with me and even told me he was going to make it happen. Then, out of nowhere, this happened—right after I reported some sexual harassment to HR. I've already spoken to a lawyer about the next steps.

I made this post for two reasons. The first is to vent—I'm angry and tired. The second is to see if anyone else has run into this pattern of events.

Looking back over my career, I usually don't have difficulty finding a leadership role with more pay, responsibility, etc. The pattern is that I usually get hired by a great boss. But then, around a year or so later, a new one comes in and takes their place. Then I either start having problems or I don't hear anything for months, even a year. Then, all of a sudden, all at once, I'm suddenly this bad employee and leader, and I'm treated as such. I love technology and my people. Manmy has been reaching out, saying I was their best boss and they loved me. Also, I had the top peakon survey scores for my entire organization for the last two years. If you don't know this, it's an internal survey sent to all employees asking how they feel about their job, boss, bosses, work environment, training, etc. It's a way to gauge if you have a bad leader in place and other things.

Anyway, I did some research and learned that this cycle of events is not new to black males in leadership within technology. Staying that we are held to a higher expectation than others, perceived as bad leaders, often victims to "sudden bad employee" syndrome (I didn't know this was a thing), and that it's just more challenging for our people to move up and stay up in tecnolg9oy. I also learned that this pattern is more common than I realize. The usual state of events I described is usually the set pattern. Get hired by a boss who either supports diversity, hires for the best, or is maybe a supporter. Then, the next person comes in with their existing biases and expectations to have that all "look like me" leadership team. Which I do not fit into. Then, slowly but surely, they start to tear you down, find or create fault, and criticize everything you do.

Anyway, thoughts? I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered this.
I’ve posted about this for a couple of years now and the reality is that we are getting phased out of Corporate America and replaced by Hindus / Eastern Indians and other Asian immigrants. These H1Bs are being sponsored by corporations and replacing jobs that would typically be filled by so-called black people.

It is unfortunate what happened to you brotha but it is the reality now and why many are taking tech money they’ve accumulated and starting their own businesses. You still have a great chance to get back in tech being hired by a corporation but it will be more and more difficult in the future.

The majority of baby boomers that attained corporate leadership roles did not look out for their progeny and this has caused a ripple effect across all industries in corporate America based on my observation, both technology and technology-adjacent industries.

As far as your last comment, a lot of the promotion to get a demotion (and terminated) events happened after the killing of George Floyd. Once the coast was clear, DEI was a wrap (which an insightful mind could see coming before it was put in place)
 
Im in a senior tech role in in a large company too and Im so exhausted from all the drama and micro-aggression I have to deal with. If I was offered a package, I'll take it in a heartbeat.

Take some time off...
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I feel you on this. I was DHS NOC manager for 5 years. Dug my comapney out of over 600 ticket backlog. Got a new GS14 govy who wanted me to do all kind of stupid shit and I fought back because he was trying to to tell me where and how to assign my personnel. Simple shit like who should sit where and who to put on this or that shift. Nope! Eventually shit came to a head and the next thing i knew my company decides to do a re-org and advertised new positions for anyone to apply to. I never applied so I ended up in a tier 3 position. But they waanted me to babysit the NOC. Nope! So one morning the security manager comes to my desk and says grab you CAC and follow me. So I grabbed my CAC and my shit and got in my car. The whole time he was following me saying I need you to sign this and turn in your CAC. LOL. My boys still laughing about that shit today. Now I work in the next building. Still have my old CAC and I only have work onsite 4x a month. But i was depressed af for about 3 months until another company picked me up. My point is fuck them! Don't ever think they give a fuck about you. And yes I'm tired of this shit but right now I love the fact I get emails and text from the new managers asking me how to do this or that. Crickets! But you gotta do you. I say keep it going until you don't need the $ or you just right out tired of working.
Rough story. Glad you can look back on it and laugh.
 
You will get blacklisted filing some paperwork in court and could be dangerous because of their fragile, emotional state. I was able to observe and learn from the entire process, my employer actually did me a favor by getting rid of me because of the serious injury that I had that I was unaware of.



It becomes public record when you get past the EEOC. If you are near retirement then you might consider filing a lawsuit with limited damage to your career. However, if you are just starting out, it could make your life difficult. You should never have gone to HR to file any complaint, it gives their legal department, a heads up to start documenting against you.

This is why I am loving, not having to work for whites, Asians, or Indians anymore due to their bizarre behavior.

You finally said some shit that makes actual sense. This is indeed the craziest of timelines. Somebody slap me, I'm hallucinating.
 
Sorry to hear you're going thru this bullshit bruh. Sounds like you have an abundance of transferable skills, so hopefully you land on your feet.

Like other have said, speaking to HR is a trap. Even in a managerial position, speaking to HR on someone else's behalf will still blow back on you. HR is not your friend. Their entire purpose is to protect the company and make any and all problems go away as quietly as possible.

They might not say shit today. They might even congratulate you on bringing the issue to their awareness. But within a year, they'll find so bullshit reason to let you go too.
 
Coworker, who was afraid to speak up.
I hate this for you.

Sadly, gotta let folks fight their own battles, especially woman sometimes, they have cards they can play and escape with no or minimal damages, whereas you as a male, you’re screwed the second your name is in HR’s orbit, even when you’re on the right side of it.
 
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You will get blacklisted filing some paperwork in court and could be dangerous because of their fragile, emotional state. I was able to observe and learn from the entire process, my employer actually did me a favor by getting rid of me because of the serious injury that I had that I was unaware of.



It becomes public record when you get past the EEOC. If you are near retirement then you might consider filing a lawsuit with limited damage to your career. However, if you are just starting out, it could make your life difficult. You should never have gone to HR to file any complaint, it gives their legal department, a heads up to start documenting against you.

This is why I am loving, not having to work for whites, Asians, or Indians anymore due to their bizarre behavior.

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Let's say you file a lawsuit, claiming discrimination, the first thing you're gonna notice is a Tariq Nasheed and Boyce Watkins coming out of the woodwork to attack you and provide racial cover. They have plenty of assets just waiting for their phone call and instructions. You may also face the media and other clowns on YouTube, coming at you daily. They may elevate it to further isolate you with terrorism.

Colin Kaepernick had his fair share of black critics like Stephen A. Smith or that Jabba the Hutt reporter from ESPN, I forget his name. Sometimes like in my case, I am involved in litigation as a last resort and fools were acting up. Now I am prescribing pain pills and giving people that hurt juice to give negative reinforcement.

They may have some 'black' company come out of the woodwork and offer you a job out of the blue, you will be terminated, and they will build their file that you are a poor performer. The tactics and gamemanship is endless. These are things your lawyer will not discuss with you.
 
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I gotta come back to this one.

No you’re not alone in noticing this. I’ve been in the game close to 20 years and I’ve seen this shit at every job. I had to learn how to move strategically in order to escape those scenarios.

Like others, I think it exists for all black people in corporate, but black AND in IT?! You gotta be hell!
 
HR is not ur friend
they ther to protect the company
if they would have listened they would be right next to u lol smh

and management change is always headache
hell u see that even in sports
 
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Let's say you file a lawsuit, claiming discrimination, the first thing you're gonna notice is a Tariq Nasheed and Boyce Watkins coming out of the woodwork to attack you and provide racial cover. They have plenty of assets just waiting for their phone call and instructions. You may also face the media and other clowns on YouTube, coming at you daily. They may elevate it to further isolate you with terrorism.

Colin Kaepernick had his fair share of black critics like Stephen A. Smith or that Jabba the Hutt reporter from ESPN, I forget his name. Sometimes like in my case, I am involved in litigation as a last resort and fools were acting up. Now I am prescribing pain pills and giving people that hurt juice to give negative reinforcement.

They may have some 'black' company come out of the woodwork and offer you a job out of the blue, you will be terminated, and they will build their file that you are a poor performer. The tactics and gamemanship is endless. These are things your lawyer will not discuss with you.
Thanks for this. I've actually spoken a few times with a lawyer about filing a lawsuit for retaliation, wrongful termination, and discrimination. I was already on the fence, since I've done that before. But after all that back and forth fighting, feeling constantly attacked, etc. My mind feels more at ease now. I'll discuss what you mentioned with my lawyer today.
 
Right after orange face won the election.....my manager at one of my jobs came to me and said that they will be ending my contract at the end of next month. The contract was initially supposed to end April 2026.
But stated that i could stay if i agreed to accept a substantial pay cut. I was like.....define substantial? Basically want me to take $20/hr less than what i'm currently making.
Take $41k out my pocket and still want me to do the same job? Nah....aint happening. I'll have another job before Christmas.
 
Right after orange face won the election.....my manager at one of my jobs came to me and said that they will be ending my contract at the end of next month. The contract was initially supposed to end April 2026.
But stated that i could stay if i agreed to accept a substantial pay cut. I was like.....define substantial? Basically want me to take $20/hr less than what i'm currently making.
Take $41k out my pocket and still want me to do the same job? Nah....aint happening. I'll have another job before Christmas.
Dang man..that sucks.

By the way, we gonna need you and @CybaCipha in that new IT board that's being created. Not sure if Cyba changed his name or not but I though I saw him here a few months ago.
 
Thanks for this. I've actually spoken a few times with a lawyer about filing a lawsuit for retaliation, wrongful termination, and discrimination. I was already on the fence, since I've done that before. But after all that back and forth fighting, feeling constantly attacked, etc. My mind feels more at ease now. I'll discuss what you mentioned with my lawyer today.

Some guy sued the media companies that were merging, and he talked about racial cover in his lawsuit. He had Al Sharpton, the NAACP, and the Urban League. In his major lawsuit, he had P Diddy name thrown about. In any event, this company prepositioned these black cannibalist anticipating a lawsuit. They signed off, saying the deal was good for the black community. Instead of attacking the plaintiff as a poor performer, now they have people saying the company was justified in terminating a person.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

But this shows you the type of garbage you could be dealing with. Even worse yet, you might even have criminal charges they may try to attach to you, a guy that sued the NFL just mysteriously got setup with criminal charges. Sometimes lawsuits are necessary when an organization is not responding to your verbal commands.

If you file a lawsuit, you were going to have to take security measures. Your lawsuit can't have your actual physical address where you reside leading your killers to you. I would move and use a virtual mailing address in another state. Don't let the defendant, trick you or make you feel that you have to give that information up as part of discovery. If your address is posted online, then move if possible or at a minimum do not put your physical address on any court filings.
 
Never give your home address to your employer, use a PO Box or a virtual mail service!

Never file a lawsuit with your home address on it, you do not need to provide that information!

 
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Right after orange face won the election.....my manager at one of my jobs came to me and said that they will be ending my contract at the end of next month. The contract was initially supposed to end April 2026.
But stated that i could stay if i agreed to accept a substantial pay cut. I was like.....define substantial? Basically want me to take $20/hr less than what i'm currently making.
Take $41k out my pocket and still want me to do the same job? Nah....aint happening. I'll have another job before Christmas.

This is gonna be the norm as time rolls on.

It doesn’t matter where you go, these companies are looking at the bottom line cuz they all know this country is about to go into SHTF level when the Orange Moron is sworn in.

Companies biggest expense is payroll/benefits, not taxes like they want folks to believe.
 
Speaking of black trash and racial cannibals, I just went up the street today and they just swarm me hard looking demonic. Most of them were black female mammys that just got done cooking/cleaning for Master Timmons children.

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This is why Trump don't even have you in the kitchen, let alone a cabinet position. I especially don't want to deal with you or have you in my face. I'm trying to figure out the triggers for this recent attack.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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