Just a sample.....yeah....that's why I haven't peeped it yet. Appreciate the break down....
Live Debate: Tariq Nasheed vs Jared Taylor
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Funny thread. What was the point of this debate?
These devil's tried to wipe us out but as they noticed they can't...White people were divinely given the power they have over us...This is there world and they were placed as gods of it for a period of time
Supremacy: (Mass Noun) The state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status.
Although a definition from a western conception, any Black person who would deny the position of the white race as a whole in these three dynamics of the social order, is absolutely, a complete fool. And also shows how Black people allow their 'ego' to get in the way of concise thought which is necessary to combat the system of white supremacy as a collective. White supremacy isn't about whether or not white people are morally, physically, or cognitively better than non-white people, it's about the social dynamics that function to inhibit in any form, the lives of non-white people.
Although a definition from a western conception, any Black person who would deny the position of the white race as a whole in these three dynamics of the social order, is absolutely, a complete fool. And also shows how Black people allow their 'ego' to get in the way of concise thought which is necessary to combat the system of white supremacy as a collective. White supremacy isn't about whether or not white people are morally, physically, or cognitively better than non-white people, it's about the social dynamics that function to inhibit in any form, the lives of non-white people.
It is done to expose the gimmicks of logic most white supremacist play with the Black mind on a daily basis. But as you can possibly tell from this thread, many negroes just can't fathom them. Why? Because too many of us 'think' like white people. Case in point: Throughout the majority of the debate, the white supremacist did nothing but make a mockery of many of the statements Tariq was making, yet there are at least 5 individuals within this thread who feel that Tariq got mopped up by the white supremacist off of 'jokes'. Which proved that the fastest way to influence a negro, and a poor white supremacist, is with an appeal to an emotion. I guarantee that the 5 naysayers in this thread would not have lasted 5 minutes with the white supremacist before they would have lost composure, and commenced into yelling and crying like a little kid. Tariq didn't smash him intellectually as was needed, but he didn't lose composure, and even turned to mocking them in the end.
Well said bruh...Emotional people make a lot of mistakes..I mean they are really making a big deal of him calling the white
Yes thank you bruh...I waa losing hope around here...These negros don't understand they are white men in black skin..They attacking Tariq like he the white supremacist...The self hate is as clear as day in this thread..Niggas feel accomplished by attacking another black man who is riding for them..The Cacs did nothing but mock Tariq the whole vid smh
Some of y'all love CACs too much. You want to be accepted. Just from the samples, the CACs sounded like fools. Tariq was a laughing at them. Tariq may not be the best guy to do this debate, but those CACs are outright morons. They didn't "win". I still don't understand the point all this debating though. They do them for clicks?
Naw my man, i dont think the criticism of Tariq can be oversimplified to this conclusion. You're using common 'tariqisms' which are negative generaizations about black people when they don't agree 100% with whatever bullshit comes out of your mouth.
From Umar calling black people who didn't donate to his school 'trifling', to Jason Black calling all single black mothers 'handkerchief headed mammies of white supremacy', to Boyce calling black people who don't quit their job and start a business 'plantation slaves', to Tariq calling every black person who doesn't agree with him a 'coon', 'agent', or 'bedwench', we give these guys agency to do so without facing major criticism because we like their overall message or product.
The problem for them is when you do that or that's your shtick, then you damn well better be consistent and use that same tenacity and intellectual ruggedness in the face of white supremacy and white people when black people's eyes are watching.
In this case with Tariq as well as with Boyce and Charles Wu, they failed to be at least as prepared to put the intellectual or verbal smackdown on their opponents here as they were with Umar, Yvette Carnell, Cynthia G, Tommy Sotomayor, Roland Martin, etc.
Whether or not you believe the aforementioned list of black folks 'deserved' the treatment and calling out is irrelevant because Tariq, for example, does not give white folks the same 'work' as he does black opponents. From DJ Vlad, to Andrew Schultz and others Tariq is much more muted in his 'sassiness' and disrespect. I think that's where alot of the criticism is coming from.
...And afterwards, in his fear that his audience might rally behind the wisdom that Vortex was speaking, he spent 5 minutes discrediting him. A pussy move. This is the same thing he did after Pearl Jr massacred him. Look at him trying to reduce Vortex to Oswald Bates from "In Living Color".
Your truth should be able to stand up against counter-argumentation without your needing to drown it out, cut it off or you needing to throw ad hominems at your opposition.
If not, it's time to rethink the truthfulness of your "truth".
The part when Tariq had him on IQ and why slaves werent allowed to read he let him off the hook.....
He should have stayed their and point blank said. "Answer my question before we move on."
Because dude had nothing and then Tariq shouldve highlighted that dude couldn t answer the question therefore the narrative about low IQ is false.....
Exactly he had so many opportunities to
Expose the nazis retardation...
But he was too busy basking in the attention
Who in the hell are these crackas that they should be awarded with any attention whatsoever... let alone a "debate"?
The influencers of the white people who will be your future administrators.
That wasn’t what dude was arguing. And you just made his point AGAIN.
Discrediting him with jokes and red herring conclusions dude didn’t even say, without him on the line because he cut him off. And al the while saying “no disrespect to the brotha”.
Hoe shit.
Well they get plenty of attention from the mainstream media already because of the political power they’ve exerted. This guy is the Tariq of white people except his power his amplified because there’s a lot more poor tribal minded whites that he can influence than the poor tribal minded Black folks Tariq influences. Plus dude is much more learned in what he’s talking about and has the same slickness that Tariq has, without the crude street bullshit. Unlike Tariq , who has tons of anti Black fuckery all over the net from before he had figured out his current hustle, this guy grew up with a background in the material he’s discussing. So he doesn’t talk about Africa or Asia from one or two visits like Tariq does. And all his bullshit , which I’m sure there’s plenty, he’s kept it low, so people could actually take him somewhat serious. He provides soothing philosophy for the poor whites , who can at least take some hope in being genetically superior to somebody, according to him . And he can do it in a calm, academic tone, that still has a southern twang to it so he sounds “real” to them.
Him and Tariq actually have a lot of the same flawed philosophy. They both believe in scientific racism and that one race is flawed in some way , while the other is superior. They both believe that. A lot of people on here believe it too. So really, a lot of people in here actually agree with this CAC.
WOW!
30 mins in, im reading Tariqs body language, moving around in his chair, while the other guys were laughing and staying calm, yeah, Tariq doesnt know how to guide the conversation nor is he ready to do battle w/ people who throw bs into the conversation.
One reason why I think Tariq always loses these type of debates is because his compassion is SOLELY via his hunt for money. The people that he studied GENUINELY cared about the progress of Black people. But people like Tariq, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc are more so about individual revenue. You can study Black History, Racism etc all you want, but if your heart aint really into what youre talking about, OR youre not capable of masking your hustle accordingly, youll always get exposed/embarrassed by the more savvy bullshitter.
Like I stated before...I support Tariq because his products are quality. But, ONCE AGAIN, he needs to stay away from these type of debates.
30 mins in, im reading Tariqs body language, moving around in his chair, while the other guys were laughing and staying calm, yeah, Tariq doesnt know how to guide the conversation nor is he ready to do battle w/ people who throw bs into the conversation.
One reason why I think Tariq always loses these type of debates is because his compassion is SOLELY via his hunt for money. The people that he studied GENUINELY cared about the progress of Black people. But people like Tariq, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc are more so about individual revenue. You can study Black History, Racism etc all you want, but if your heart aint really into what youre talking about, OR youre not capable of masking your hustle accordingly, youll always get exposed/embarrassed by the more savvy bullshitter.
Like I stated before...I support Tariq because his products are quality. But, ONCE AGAIN, he needs to stay away from these type of debates.
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Btw.....before some of you White trolls on BGOL think that im on your 'shit on Tariq" bandwagon....im in no way giving props to the people Tariq debated. They were bs'n as well. But my point is....they knocked Tariq off his square. Tariq needs to be more prepared. Or...just hustle and keep his distance.
Anyways.....
Great replies from Tariq fans under his twitter post...fyi
Anyways.....
Great replies from Tariq fans under his twitter post...fyi
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Man dude has issues. That eve lifecoach sista was trying to teach him something and his ego would rather try to battle her fair points
When talking about Systematic Racism Tariq needs to simple keep the convo about “Head start”.
Old Racism has died long ago. The racism where whites hated blacks is long gone. Hate has been replaced with tolerance and systematic racism. As long as you are not dating their children or living in their neighborhoods they are cool.
Tariq needs to stay on “Head start”. He could have easily started with banks giving our loans for housing. This is how neighborhoods became hoods and why education was so bad for blacks because your housing has a direct impact on education as your property tax pays for education.
Yea those replies are logical and Tariq keeps emotionally responding to them...these are his fans by the way
I agree with you. but honestly, Tariq needs to just stay OUT of these discussions period lol
That pimp , street shit got him pretty far, but he's been out of his depth for a minute now. If his only point is to go out there and tell white people to admit they're racist and better than us, I guess he can make bucks off that , but it ain't helping shit.
And for those who say he's being realistic about white supremacy- then he negates all that with the "we are the Moors" bullshit in his movies cuz that's a fantasy and completely irrelevant to NOW.
He's talking out the side of his neck. But hey, that's what pimps do
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I don't see the need for these "debates" either
The sista commenting was on point. Tariq cares more about him winning than learning something from the people critiquing him. He's too emotional. But she still gives that Jared dude more credit than I give him. When Jared couldn't explain something he'd "laugh" or change the subject to dismiss it. Rugged Man's in the comments going at that clown too.
How can anyone still take Tariq Nasheed seriously at this point? He is a HUSTLER, pure and simple. His habits are nomadic, chameleonic, and parasitic. He moves from one hustle to the next, and tailors his public image to suit whatever product he happens to be selling at the moment. When the demand for that particular product dries up, he will simply close up shop and move on to something else. Meanwhile, his constituents will continue to portray his flaws as virtues.
His so-called “contempt” for White supremacy is simply part of the act. Dude is CLEARLY enamored with White Supremacy and its architects. He could give less than a company fuck about Black empowerment and progress, because he buys into the exact same brand of Darwinian ruthlessness that the average White supremacist does. That’s why he’s always paying homage to hustlers and hustling culture.
His so-called “contempt” for White supremacy is simply part of the act. Dude is CLEARLY enamored with White Supremacy and its architects. He could give less than a company fuck about Black empowerment and progress, because he buys into the exact same brand of Darwinian ruthlessness that the average White supremacist does. That’s why he’s always paying homage to hustlers and hustling culture.
But I will say this: Tariq should prod baked Alaska to set up a debate with their 2nd level best and Gus T Renagade. Renegade is adroit in interpreting the philosophies of Fuller/Welsing in debate. What he did to jesse lee Peterson was astounding. Got the slave master to confess to using the word '******' around jesse. On Air! Masterful.
I think Tariq understands this. But when he starts using old History to back up his points, it makes it seem like he doesnt. Theres a basis to all of this, but most folks are tired of hearing about the "basis".
Like u stated, he needs to stop trying to build up his point, and instead get straight to the point. Or.....just stop agreeing to do these bs debates all together. Because these so called debates seem more like two Race hustlas battling/trying to top one another.
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I understood what you are saying but there is no way in hell you can debate Jessie Peterson as you would this white supremacist...I really feel you should understand this and it need not me explaining...We live in a white supremacist society...So regardless the white mans ice will always be colder..I'm sticking with topic and that's tariqs debate with the white supremacist I can't speak on umar,Boyce or Jason black and what they have said...
Tariq cannot go in being silly as he would if it were say Umar johnson..When debating white supremacist you must be direct and kill them with the truth...You have to deal with people accordingly especially if this cac can make power moves in other places..The last thing Tariq want to do is come off as some ignorant silly clown in front of white supremacist...He can do that with Tommy because that's us and it' in house...We discipline each other different than we do outsiders
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I agree with everything you said. The new racism which is systematic allows whites to hide behind a wall. He was making it very easy to dispute his points. He needs to really educate himself on how the system has an affect on blacks in America
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