Lets face it ,Future belongs to ASIA & China

Look at where the IMF (DC), United Nations (NYC), and Federal Reserve (DC) are located.

Whose currency is valued highest in the world? Bank of England pound

Whose standard is every currency in the world measured against? The pound and the dollar.

Why?

Because the US/UK financial contraption has been constructed over a period of several centuries to give governments iron-clad control over the people they govern.

China doesn't have its own financial system. It uses the dollar/pound framework. The same goes for Russia, Brazil, Japan, and so on.

If you have a central bank, you are using the US/UK system.

China isn't really loaning jacksquat. That is a common misconception. All they are doing is taking the dollars they get from products sold here, and exchanging it for Treasury debt (rather than buying buildings, land, factories, etc).

Now, why do governments go for this ridiculous system. Because it allows government to grow big and strong to take power from its citizens. That is the great appealing factor of the US/UK system to governments around the world.

China is as much a slave to it as the average American is. If the Chinese government abandons it, they abandon their power to govern the people. Unless of course they come up with a viable alternative, which I don't see happening any time soon (they tried Communism and you see how that worked for them).

Ummmmmmm yeah I agree with that. The monetary policy worldwide is favored towards the traditional US/UK system and currency. The only question is are countries trying to manuever their way away from the dollar as a reserve fiat currency. Some articles say wait and see. I thought it was always the man who holds the gold is the man who holds the leverage though.
 
Let's be honest here. The US is past its prime. And it doesnt look like for the foreseeable future that we as country will ever go back to the days of being a creditor nation with a robust producing/manufacturing base. We leveraged alot for the idea of globalization and as time keeps creeping on, we see the effects.



How will there be sanctions? Who is even going to implement the sanctions against China? I honestly laugh at that notion. Come on Americans although foolishly arrogant at times are stubborn as shit. If the majority of America's quality of life is diminished, there will be hell to pay internally before there is a conflict externally. You sincerely forget this is the nation that has the right to bear arms.

What China is doing intelligently is making inroads into countries that are known to have natural resources. Ala there heavy investments into parts of Africa. They had an article in the washingtonpost stating how the Chinese are sending students here to the US for higher learning and graduate schools in droves. They are also buying up US property like its cool man. If they decided to dump the dollar today, how could we beat them. Not only would our whole economy be crushed, remember we still have a good portion of armed forces in Iraq and the rest heading to Afghanistan. That would only prompt for the US to revisit the draft and man o man we seen the results of that. And the fact that China will throw numbers at you.

Man we could go all day long. Im all for the hometeam but we have some of the dumbest fuckers running our country. And I absolutely pay no attention to that G8 bullshit. China is making their own rules plain and simple.
co fuckin sign homes.i am for the hometeam myself.and i know for a fact that the bankers and pentagon peeps do not wont a war..........i repeat .do not wont a convential war with china..........they all know to well what happen doing the korean war.and they are gonna repeat that same scenario again.....china has a 200 million man active army.hell our country only has 300 million people.if any war between china and the us were to break out it would be totally nuclear.not convential........ask the elites henry kissenger,zbigniew brezenski,the rotschilds,the rockefellers WHICH ARE THE ONE' TOTALLY IN CONTROL OF THIS COUNTRY and they will tell you the same....despite what any arguments any motherfuckers make in regards to miltary analysis on who got what and who got this....it's not going to happen plain and simple without mutual assured destruction(MAD)REAL TALK:yes:
 
Let's be honest here. The US is past its prime. And it doesnt look like for the foreseeable future that we as country will ever go back to the days of being a creditor nation with a robust producing/manufacturing base. We leveraged alot for the idea of globalization and as time keeps creeping on, we see the effects.



How will there be sanctions? Who is even going to implement the sanctions against China? I honestly laugh at that notion. Come on Americans although foolishly arrogant at times are stubborn as shit. If the majority of America's quality of life is diminished, there will be hell to pay internally before there is a conflict externally. You sincerely forget this is the nation that has the right to bear arms.

What China is doing intelligently is making inroads into countries that are known to have natural resources. Ala there heavy investments into parts of Africa. They had an article in the washingtonpost stating how the Chinese are sending students here to the US for higher learning and graduate schools in droves. They are also buying up US property like its cool man. If they decided to dump the dollar today, how could we beat them. Not only would our whole economy be crushed, remember we still have a good portion of armed forces in Iraq and the rest heading to Afghanistan. That would only prompt for the US to revisit the draft and man o man we seen the results of that. And the fact that China will throw numbers at you.

Man we could go all day long. Im all for the hometeam but we have some of the dumbest fuckers running our country. And I absolutely pay no attention to that G8 bullshit. China is making their own rules plain and simple.

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They can't dump it at once, but they will ease out of their position over the course of years. The yuan is pegged artificially low. Once the Chinese unload a good portion of the US dollar, there will be economic turmoil. i hope i'm wrong...I live here too. But pyramidbuilder is right when he stated that America became complacent, and not re-investing in R&D and our educational system. You have parent who pay 35000 a year for preschool so their children can have a chance to get into good post secondary schools. Quality Education for the masses, that focuses in the sciences and math is all but abandoned in this country. China is reaching out to expatriots to return to China, specifically in IT and Engineers.
I think the many faces of America are still not apparent here, there is America "We The People" and then There is America in alliances with the most heavily armed and richest economies and companies on the planet

Again America did invest in R&D they just did it through the Military, they did it through Nasa, IMF, Media and Pharmacology these are the real tools for world domination. And the best thing about it the funding was paid for by a bunch of sheeple who still fight against the right to universal health care (Buuuuuuut I Digress :D)

Education is for the people, not the government so it has been largely outsourced to the private sector just as they exported jobs they import talent, you don't need to raise the cow to eat steak every night you just need to raise the funds and no one does that better than America and Europe
So I guess we all agree the world as we know it is coming to an end yes?
It ended a long time ago comrade - if you mean apocalypse and biblical prophecy you on your own with dat doe
dude you cant be serious .this is not the us/uk league..........understand this ......china is the bank and loaner.............us is the reciever of that loan to invest in whatever military,internal infrastructure,housing whatever........tell me how is it totally the us/uk league.?

You need to see that there is a global picture man

If you could see a graph of the flow of money it would go from the G8 nations like the U.S. and uk into China when a business relies very heavily on a customer it is hard to see who is serving who after a while.

The flow of money comes from the Europeans to the Asians, and at this stage if Europeans stop buying Asian goods the Asian economy collapses almost instantly, the Asians have put themselves and been put as well perhaps in a servitude role. They are like Tony Montana, they are powerful but they still work for Sosa (the U.S. truss I'm no flag waver) Now If Sosa comes to Tony for a loan do you think he will give it to him? He will do so happily. Don't make too much of the Chimerica thing China buying T-Bills is like someone buying a brand new Ferrari with a blown engine for 50% off ...ok sure you got Ferrari and at a good price, but you can't use it and nobody wants to buy it off you at a profitable price, unless you fix it and fix it fast

See the world got carved up a long ass time ago and without changing everything nothing you can do about it, the roster is pretty much filled and the UN and groups like G8 are only getting bigger.
 
China is struggling to provide clean water for all of it's people. They will run out of necessary resources before they can become the worlds number 1 power country.
 
Damn summa ya'll still ain't see "Money Masters" huh?

He who has the gold makes the rules, even if China manages to use all of that positive trade value to buy into or create new channels at the top of the economic food chain they are working with New Money and could still lose it all tomorrow

If you study the world economy you see china is like an NBA athlete with a big deal but the USA, IMF and G8 nations are the the Comissioners and owners not too many Athletes become commissioners and owners

Getting the money is one thing getting a place in the "board room" is a whole nother struggle


I wish'em the best though :yes:

I was about to post something like this.

It's the US/England league. It is a fantasy leauge, but everyone is playing in it and everyone acts like it's real.

To say anyone is on the rise, is like saying Lebron James is on the rise, but the owners always have control.


Good Perspective.
 
This where confusions starts with everyone, so let me break it down correctly.

1. Africa is continent with many countries that all have natural resources that the world needs. The outside investment as you indicated put into Africa is make those other countries like China survive and grow. Without the the riches of Africa natural resources such as copper, oil and Iron ore, you can consider China dead!


2. South America(Latin America) the powerhouse is Brazil,so I leave that point as you stated correctly.

Yea ur actually right. I've talked about stuff like this with professors. Right now I'm learning spanish. And I want to take two semesters of Latin before I get out of college. Whats another language you think will be quite useful. btw my goals are to make investment funds in Africa and possibly latin American countries. after I'm done with college entirely (mba etc). Other cats throw me a suggestion as well (older more experienced cats)
 
It wasn't in my opinion that the Asians were so great.
Americans became complacent in it's idology of remaining number one forever without having to do anything to maintain their status. They believed their own lie.
Profits went into the pockets of the rich; there was no R&D, nor any major investmens in the national infrastructure nor in the education of our very own children.
Non thinking, non educational television became the babysitter/educator. No one cared about the future; only for the present.
We only have our leaders to blame, they sold out to big business, and could care less for the middle class and the poor.
No one did any planning for the future, the Asians did, this is why they are as successful as they are now,
Our industry stagnated, most of the manufacturing was performed with outdate equipment and machinery, we couldn't even convert to the metric system. its pathetic.
The future could have been ours, hadtheir arrogance and greed not become the impediment to our own success.

Ur right man. The funny thing is. Asian-Americans also took that same point of view and it's paying off for them here as well.
 
you know why i dont believe this because little over a decade ago epeople were saying that America was going to run shit forever. The five years ago it was about Europe was going to run shit forever. Now I am being told China is going to run shit forever. I just don't believe it all it is, is global politics no one has ever really ran shit 100% and no one ever will.
 
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