Lets face it ,Future belongs to ASIA & China

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It wasn't in my opinion that the Asians were so great.
Americans became complacent in it's idology of remaining number one forever without having to do anything to maintain their status. They believed their own lie.
Profits went into the pockets of the rich; there was no R&D, nor any major investmens in the national infrastructure nor in the education of our very own children.
Non thinking, non educational television became the babysitter/educator. No one cared about the future; only for the present.
We only have our leaders to blame, they sold out to big business, and could care less for the middle class and the poor.
No one did any planning for the future, the Asians did, this is why they are as successful as they are now,
Our industry stagnated, most of the manufacturing was performed with outdate equipment and machinery, we couldn't even convert to the metric system. its pathetic.
The future could have been ours, hadtheir arrogance and greed not become the impediment to our own success.
 
It wasn't in my opinion that the Asians were so great.
Americans became complacent in it's idology of remaining number one forever without having to do anything to maintain their status. They believed their own lie.
Profits went into the pockets of the rich; there was no R&D, nor any major investmens in the national infrastructure nor in the education of our very own children.
Non thinking, non educational television became the babysitter/educator. No one cared about the future; only for the present.
We only have our leaders to blame, they sold out to big business, and could care less for the middle class and the poor.
No one did any planning for the future, the Asians did, this is why they are as successful as they are now,
Our industry stagnated, most of the manufacturing was performed with outdate equipment and machinery, we couldn't even convert to the metric system. its pathetic.
The future could have been ours, hadtheir arrogance and greed not become the impediment to our own success.

Well put.
 
This where confusions starts with everyone, so let me break it down correctly.

1. Africa is continent with many countries that all have natural resources that the world needs. The outside investment as you indicated put into Africa is make those other countries like China survive and grow. Without the the riches of Africa natural resources such as copper, oil and Iron ore, you can consider China dead!

What you said is true but unfortunately the situation is much more complex than what you state. Yes, the African continent is rich with resources but issues like Tribalism, Greed, and Ignorance stop most African nations from reaping the benefits of the land. For one, if you look at Africa's post-colonial record you will see that it is suffering tremendously from it's current national boundaries which were created with disregard to Africa's very own tribal divisions. In addition, it's suffering from the fact that most nations lack a national identity. Lastly, a great majority of Africa's post-colonial leadership were either out for self, or out for their particular tribe only which hurt the rest of the nation. So how does this fit into what you're saying you ask?

Well most African nations do not have the organization, national identity, and leadership necessary to do proper business with countries like China. You see, most African leaders make decisions that are going to benefit them and their tribe and no one else. If a leader meets with China he's going to make the deal that's most lucrative to him personally and not to the whole nation therefore the nation will remain stagnant while the resources are being exploited. Thus leaving the citizens with less wealth and less resources to make further wealth with. Same thing is going on in South America too...it's the story of the third world. Africa is not going to rise BACK up anytime soon until there is a big shift in mind states there.
 
Re: Lets face it ,Future belongs to ASIA

It's even in Revelations. That Billion man army is coming from Asia, not Europe the Middle East, or America.
it was in a bible prophecy that a 400 million man army would invade the middle east.and from what the bible prophecy say's that this would be the greatest ground army assemble in mankind on earth.the only nation that has a army of 200 to 400 million active military manpower that i know of is china.not even india is as close to china in troop deployments. because china has them literaly blocked off from any deployment.it is something about gog and magog look it up on the i-net i dont have the full detail's though.
 
Not to be to simplistic bout all this but yall forgettin what this country good at...WAR.When we really get to the point were we cant pay China back,and I mean really can't pay them fuckas back,we will go to war.Now we aint no good at that guerilla war shit(Vietnam,Afghan,)but war with China will be more conventional,more our style.Now I don't have the ordinary American arrogance,it will be no walk in the park.But war always have and always will decide the fate of nations,big or small.We win,we continue global dominance.We loose :dunno: What I want to know is if it go down like that,who will Russia side with??
 
What you said is true but unfortunately the situation is much more complex than what you state. Yes, the African continent is rich with resources but issues like Tribalism, Greed, and Ignorance stop most African nations from reaping the benefits of the land. For one, if you look at Africa's post-colonial record you will see that it is suffering tremendously from it's current national boundaries which were created with disregard to Africa's very own tribal divisions. In addition, it's suffering from the fact that most nations lack a national identity. Lastly, a great majority of Africa's post-colonial leadership were either out for self, or out for their particular tribe only which hurt the rest of the nation. So how does this fit into what you're saying you ask?

Well most African nations do not have the organization, national identity, and leadership necessary to do proper business with countries like China. You see, most African leaders make decisions that are going to benefit them and their tribe and no one else. If a leader meets with China he's going to make the deal that's most lucrative to him personally and not to the whole nation therefore the nation will remain stagnant while the resources are being exploited. Thus leaving the citizens with less wealth and less resources to make further wealth with. Same thing is going on in South America too...it's the story of the third world. Africa is not going to rise BACK up anytime soon until there is a big shift in mind states there.
sir to the contrary that was what last week's china-africa forum held in egypt was all about .china pledge $10 BILLION's in loan's to african nations and infrastructure building in africa was included in the deal's.infrastructure building in africa is the key.thats the start.then after that.that's when buisness will roll through.read up on it...........oh by the way there is no such thing as africa cant rise back up.and that there leaders cant change there state of mind. all of that will change when roads,bridges,tunnels,hospital's,universitie's,school's and stadium's come in play on the continent.if all goes well with the loan china give them and dont any major event's take place in the world. africa will look highly develpoed.africa would pretty much look like europe.if all goes well.real talk.
 
I could see the US use the "War on Terror" to invade both continents.
Naw that can't happen except with some loosely interpreted sense
It wasn't in my opinion that the Asians were so great.
Americans became complacent in it's idology of remaining number one forever without having to do anything to maintain their status. They believed their own lie.
Profits went into the pockets of the rich; there was no R&D, nor any major investmens in the national infrastructure nor in the education of our very own children.
Non thinking, non educational television became the babysitter/educator. No one cared about the future; only for the present.
We only have our leaders to blame, they sold out to big business, and could care less for the middle class and the poor.
No one did any planning for the future, the Asians did, this is why they are as successful as they are now,
Our industry stagnated, most of the manufacturing was performed with outdate equipment and machinery, we couldn't even convert to the metric system. its pathetic.
The future could have been ours, hadtheir arrogance and greed not become the impediment to our own success.
I assume you mean in the sports sense like people in L.A. say "we" won the championship, unless you are rich and white...:rolleyes:

Outside of that I almost think you are confusing the U.S. national economic state of affairs with the global economy...Globally the U.S. economy and economists have actually been very shrewd and is keeping the world under it's thumb far longer than the balance sheet would suggest possible...the greatest ponzi scheme in human history some say
Okay I understand where you all are coming from on the US/England/EU team up. However, the Chinese are fully aware of this and basically beating them at their own game.
LOL How? By buying lots of Bad debt from the world's Debo? All this while your people starve and are subject to human rights violations? China is like a supersized light skinned version of africa

If the western civilization made a few simple lifestyle or policy changes china is dead...they are literally one or two European inventions away from a footnote in early 21st century history
Okay here is an interview with Peter Levenda that gives a more realistic perspective on China's rise:

Don't mean to be a jerk Lenny but the guy is an occult writer how does this make him realistic?

His logic is if Capitalism is Atheist then China will take over..and that is just silly
 
sir to the contrary that was what last week's china-africa forum held in egypt was all about .china pledge $10 BILLION's in loan's to african nations and infrastructure building in africa was included in the deal's.infrastructure building in africa is the key.thats the start.then after that.that's when buisness will roll through.read up on it...........oh by the way there is no such thing as africa cant rise back up.and that there leaders cant change there state of mind. all of that will change when roads,bridges,tunnels,hospital's,universitie's,school's and stadium's come in play on the continent.if all goes well with the loan china give them and dont any major event's take place in the world. africa will look highly develpoed.africa would pretty much look like europe.if all goes well.real talk.

I hope you don't think that China is the first country to invest into African nations. Look up what Jean-Bedel Bokassa did with his loan money from France for instance...it's the story of Post-Colonial Africa.
 
When we really get to the point were we cant pay China back,and I mean really can't pay them fuckas back,we will go to war.

Okay now we talking!!

Some one finally addresses the elephant in the room
:yes:

Are you aware of the Chinese Foreign Policy or military capabilities? :dunno:
 
I think you got that wrong.. CACs would rather end life on earth than let that shit happen..

*2 cents*
exactly that's what i been telling mofos for a while.all this 2012 shit has nothing to do with the world ending.that is just dangerous propaganda. the US/UK cant see themselves living in a multipolar worldwhere you have other economic players as well.they rather end it.as soon as they drop a nuke .then china drops a nuke.then russia drop's a nuke. then india drops a nuke. then france drops a nuke .then pakistan drops a nuke.then north korea drops a nuke.the whole nuclear club of the world position there icbm's.........get what im saying the domino effect.the fallout.:smh:
 


If the western civilization made a few simple lifestyle or policy changes china is dead...they are literally one or two European inventions away from a footnote in early 21st century history


Don't mean to be a jerk Lenny but the guy is an occult writer how does this make him realistic?

His logic is if Capitalism is Atheist then China will take over..and that is just silly

Eventhough The American Government and Establishment will survive an economic war with China, the people won't which is what you're overlooking. If China dumped the dollar the results will be felt by everyone who is within "The Matrix" so to speak created by the powers that be.
 
Re: Lets face it ,Future belongs to ASIA

we did it to ourselves. In the pursuit of creating unrealistic profits ...manufactures moved manufacturing plants and jobs offshore to India and China to save on labor cost. They inturn destroyed the blue collar middle class, converted our economy in which 66% is based on consumption, and manufacture nothing, all to apease stockholders....the future does belong to them. All those capitalist, want you to think how they converted Communist China to a more capitalistic country...but we'll see how they feel when they start dumping the dollar in mass. they can't do it cause they are holding a trillion in US debt
 
I hope you don't think that China is the first country to invest into African nations. Look up what Jean-Bedel Bokassa did with his loan money from France for instance...it's the story of Post-Colonial Africa.
dude you talking about france.france is not a ecomic superpower in terms of the US and CHINA.france is under the EU as a whole(sovernty surrendered).CHINA has the EU by the balls economically.the only one who can compete for raw materials in africa with china on that level is the US.not the eu,the EU depend's heavily on the united states for military and economical survival.without the united states the eu is nothing.by itself.real talk.:D
 
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Outside of that I almost think you are confusing the U.S. national economic state of affairs with the global economy...Globally the U.S. economy and economists have actually been very shrewd and is keeping the world under it's thumb far longer than the balance sheet would suggest possible...the greatest ponzi scheme in human history some say

LOL How? By buying lots of Bad debt from the world's Debo? All this while your people starve and are subject to human rights violations? China is like a supersized light skinned version of africa

If the western civilization made a few simple lifestyle or policy changes china is dead...they are literally one or two European inventions away from a footnote in early 21st century history


Don't mean to be a jerk Lenny but the guy is an occult writer how does this make him realistic?

His logic is if Capitalism is Atheist then China will take over..and that is just silly


Okay you obviously aren't going to listen to anything I have to say,carry on now.
 
exactly that's what i been telling mofos for a while.all this 2012 shit has nothing to do with the world ending.that is just dangerous propaganda. the US/UK cant see themselves living in a multipolar worldwhere you have other economic players as well.they rather end it.as soon as they drop a nuke .then china drops a nuke.then russia drop's a nuke. then india drops a nuke. then france drops a nuke .then pakistan drops a nuke.then north korea drops a nuke.the whole nuclear club of the world position there icbm's.........get what im saying the domino effect.the fallout.:smh:

Yep, WWIII at this point is pretty much inevitable.
 
Not to be to simplistic bout all this but yall forgettin what this country good at...WAR.When we really get to the point were we cant pay China back,and I mean really can't pay them fuckas back,we will go to war.Now we aint no good at that guerilla war shit(Vietnam,Afghan,)but war with China will be more conventional,more our style.Now I don't have the ordinary American arrogance,it will be no walk in the park.But war always have and always will decide the fate of nations,big or small.We win,we continue global dominance.We loose :dunno: What I want to know is if it go down like that,who will Russia side with??
homes i dont think the united states want's to go down that road ever again,should i dare remind you of what happen to the united states during the korean war.the chinese troops made the us retreat almost into the pacific ocean. because they swarmed them so heavily.hell that was the biggest retreat in US military history ever.dwight eisenhower threating to use the atomic bomb on china.because of those huge significant causilaties the US was taking.a convential ground war with china would not be wise. it would not be in the favor of the US one bit.the only war i could think of between the us and china would not be convential......... but nuclear.......and you ask what side would russia would be taking.......you already know automatically no question's ask..............CHINA.............because they are both part of the SHANGHAI COOPERATION ORGANISATION.
 
The real elephant in the room is China and India's out-of-control population problem.

China is trying to create an American-style lifestyle in its cities.

Lots of skyscrapers.
Lots of brand names.
Lots of conspicuous consumption.
A disposable/throwaway society.

When oil starts doubling, tripling, and more in price, you are going to see this China miracle crash, the way Dubai is.
 
we did it to ourselves. In the pursuit of creating unrealistic profits ...manufactures moved manufacturing plants and jobs offshore to India and China to save on labor cost. They inturn destroyed the blue collar middle class, converted our economy in which 66% is based on consumption, and manufacture nothing, all to apease stockholders....the future does belong to them. All those capitalist, want you to think how they converted Communist China to a more capitalistic country...but we'll see how they feel when they start dumping the dollar in mass. they can't do it cause they are holding a trillion in US debt
Again the world is no longer divided by lines on a map once you see that you see why moving to Mexico, India and China was unavoidable as well as why your view of "we" is misplaced ....as "we the people" don't have any assets or or power outside our taxable wages

this is why the ghetto can go up in a mushroom cloud tonight and most of the beltway will probably cheer :smh:
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Huh? Are you saying they can or can't dump the dollar?
Eventhough The American Government and Establishment will survive an economic war with China, the people won't which is what you're overlooking. If China dumped the dollar the results will be felt by everyone who is within "The Matrix" so to speak created by the powers that be.
Well if china dumped the dollar expect them to be under sanctions within a year and that is kind of conservative

The quality of life of "people" in America are highly expendable to the elite and powerful...to them we may as well be dogs and cats...now in the case you point out again is the OTHER elephant in the room; what does America do when the "Money Goes" so to speak :smh:
 
I completely disagree.

IF the American people demand through organized protest and voting, that companies move BACK to the United States..... I think Americans can be SELF SUFFICIENT just like I'd encourage EVERY nation to be.

Tell me why China is going to continue to expand... if Americans are producing goods here in the States (have jobs, create exports).



I seriously hope Americans take note. START being unique again!!!!!
The LAWS of Hip Hop were always to be yourself and don't bite the next man. Now...all yall can't wait to copy some image of success to hop on the bandwagon. It's a cheap thrill yall! and it does more damage than helps us.

The black community got some scraps from the table from 70's on.... tons of shit happened to us and we did nothing! I witness Katrina and frankly, I was f*ckin disgraced yo...... White people did more for LO and MS than our own community, and whitey barely did a thing.

SO WAKE UP!!!!! Start acting like a community, like you proud of our country u bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
ps fuck china.
i think we might be a tad bit late for it .but it's still hope.it's not to late.unity is definetely gonna have to play a role.there cant be no internal war's within on no fronts. a vast majority of US citizen's seem to be focus on hollywood pop culture.hollywood pop culture are not the one's gonna be acting like a community are getting involved. when stuff goes down.they are gonna be the ones ducking dodging and hiding.
 
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The real elephant in the room is China and India's out-of-control population problem.

China is trying to create an American-style lifestyle in its cities.

Lots of skyscrapers.
Lots of brand names.
Lots of conspicuous consumption.
A disposable/throwaway society.

When oil starts doubling, tripling, and more in price, you are going to see this China miracle crash, the way Dubai is.

Population problem is a huge issue and I agree on it being a global elephant, but as far as China and India Government is concerned they wouldn't mind if a few hundred million of their people died off to concentrate wealth and power...Hell even America did it :smh:

Sadly they already have the cultural and social stigmas, stereotypes and taboos for that in the works

Also the big picture tells us the last stop isn't india and china by no stretch of the imagination
 
I was about to post something like this.

It's the US/England league. It is a fantasy leauge, but everyone is playing in it and everyone acts like it's real.

To say anyone is on the rise, is like saying Lebron James is on the rise, but the owners always have control.
dude you cant be serious .this is not the us/uk league..........understand this ......china is the bank and loaner.............us is the reciever of that loan to invest in whatever military,internal infrastructure,housing whatever........tell me how is it totally the us/uk league.?
 

Again the world is no longer divided by lines on a map once you see that you see why moving to Mexico, India and China was unavoidable as well as why your view of "we" is misplaced ....as "we the people" don't have any assets or or power outside our taxable wages

this is why the ghetto can go up in a mushroom cloud tonight and most of the beltway will probably cheer :smh:
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Huh? Are you saying they can or can't dump the dollar?


They can't dump it at once, but they will ease out of their position over the course of years. The yuan is pegged artificially low. Once the Chinese unload a good portion of the US dollar, there will be economic turmoil. i hope i'm wrong...I live here too. But pyramidbuilder is right when he stated that America became complacent, and not re-investing in R&D and our educational system. You have parent who pay 35000 a year for preschool so their children can have a chance to get into good post secondary schools. Quality Education for the masses, that focuses in the sciences and math is all but abandoned in this country. China is reaching out to expatriots to return to China, specifically in IT and Engineers.
 
It wasn't in my opinion that the Asians were so great.
Americans became complacent in it's idology of remaining number one forever without having to do anything to maintain their status. They believed their own lie.
Profits went into the pockets of the rich; there was no R&D, nor any major investmens in the national infrastructure nor in the education of our very own children.
Non thinking, non educational television became the babysitter/educator. No one cared about the future; only for the present.
We only have our leaders to blame, they sold out to big business, and could care less for the middle class and the poor.
No one did any planning for the future, the Asians did, this is why they are as successful as they are now,
Our industry stagnated, most of the manufacturing was performed with outdate equipment and machinery, we couldn't even convert to the metric system. its pathetic.
The future could have been ours, hadtheir arrogance and greed not become the impediment to our own success.

REAL MOTHA FUCKIN TALK...
 
They can't dump it at once, but they will ease out of their position over the course of years. The yuan is pegged artificially low. Once the Chinese unload a good portion of the US dollar, there will be economic turmoil. i hope i'm wrong...I live here too. But pyramidbuilder is right when he stated that America became complacent, and not re-investing in R&D and our educational system. You have parent who pay 35000 a year for preschool so their children can have a chance to get into good post secondary schools. Quality Education for the masses, that focuses in the sciences and math is all but abandoned in this country. China is reaching out to expatriots to return to China, specifically in IT and Engineers.
they are doing it exactly on there pace. and when they feel when the time is right..........BOOM.........:itsawrap:.......its gonna be like an explosion hit the US.i totally like your analysis.
 
dude you cant be serious .this is not the us/uk league..........understand this ......china is the bank and loaner.............us is the reciever of that loan to invest in whatever military,internal infrastructure,housing whatever........tell me how is it totally the us/uk league.?

Look at where the IMF (DC), United Nations (NYC), and Federal Reserve (DC) are located.

Whose currency is valued highest in the world? Bank of England pound

Whose standard is every currency in the world measured against? The pound and the dollar.

Why?

Because the US/UK financial contraption has been constructed over a period of several centuries to give governments iron-clad control over the people they govern.

China doesn't have its own financial system. It uses the dollar/pound framework. The same goes for Russia, Brazil, Japan, and so on.

If you have a central bank, you are using the US/UK system.

China isn't really loaning jacksquat. That is a common misconception. All they are doing is taking the dollars they get from products sold here, and exchanging it for Treasury debt (rather than buying buildings, land, factories, etc).

Now, why do governments go for this ridiculous system. Because it allows government to grow big and strong to take power from its citizens. That is the great appealing factor of the US/UK system to governments around the world.

China is as much a slave to it as the average American is. If the Chinese government abandons it, they abandon their power to govern the people. Unless of course they come up with a viable alternative, which I don't see happening any time soon (they tried Communism and you see how that worked for them).
 
Let's be honest here. The US is past its prime. And it doesnt look like for the foreseeable future that we as country will ever go back to the days of being a creditor nation with a robust producing/manufacturing base. We leveraged alot for the idea of globalization and as time keeps creeping on, we see the effects.

Well if china dumped the dollar expect them to be under sanctions within a year and that is kind of conservative

The quality of life of "people" in America are highly expendable to the elite and powerful...to them we may as well be dogs and cats...now in the case you point out again is the OTHER elephant in the room; what does America do when the "Money Goes" so to speak :smh:
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How will there be sanctions? Who is even going to implement the sanctions against China? I honestly laugh at that notion. Come on Americans although foolishly arrogant at times are stubborn as shit. If the majority of America's quality of life is diminished, there will be hell to pay internally before there is a conflict externally. You sincerely forget this is the nation that has the right to bear arms.

What China is doing intelligently is making inroads into countries that are known to have natural resources. Ala there heavy investments into parts of Africa. They had an article in the washingtonpost stating how the Chinese are sending students here to the US for higher learning and graduate schools in droves. They are also buying up US property like its cool man. If they decided to dump the dollar today, how could we beat them. Not only would our whole economy be crushed, remember we still have a good portion of armed forces in Iraq and the rest heading to Afghanistan. That would only prompt for the US to revisit the draft and man o man we seen the results of that. And the fact that China will throw numbers at you.

Man we could go all day long. Im all for the hometeam but we have some of the dumbest fuckers running our country. And I absolutely pay no attention to that G8 bullshit. China is making their own rules plain and simple.
 
I think you got that wrong.. CACs would rather end life on earth than let that shit happen..

*2 cents*

Co-fukkin sign!! Them CACs didn't build 21,000lb bombs and all those fukkin nuclear weapons to give control up. My friend, You spoke truth!!
 
Look at where the IMF (DC), United Nations (NYC), and Federal Reserve (DC) are located.

Whose currency is valued highest in the world? Bank of England pound

Whose standard is every currency in the world measured against? The pound and the dollar.

Why?

Because the US/UK financial contraption has been constructed over a period of several centuries to give governments iron-clad control over the people they govern.

China doesn't have its own financial system. It uses the dollar/pound framework. The same goes for Russia, Brazil, Japan, and so on.

If you have a central bank, you are using the US/UK system.

China isn't really loaning jacksquat. That is a common misconception. All they are doing is taking the dollars they get from products sold here, and exchanging it for Treasury debt (rather than buying buildings, land, factories, etc).

Now, why do governments go for this ridiculous system. Because it allows government to grow big and strong to take power from its citizens. That is the great appealing factor of the US/UK system to governments around the world.

China is as much a slave to it as the average American is. If the Chinese government abandons it, they abandon their power to govern the people. Unless of course they come up with a viable alternative, which I don't see happening any time soon (they tried Communism and you see how that worked for them).
china has a trillion dollars of us treasuries.....say for instance china stops investing in the us.........do you think the us can just turn on the printing machine by itself?.........without causing massive inflation or devaluation of it's currency?...........or hire a buck ass load u.s. citizens here with competible wages for it industrie's within the us and still be highly profitable for u.s. business owners? without hiring mexican's and other immigrant's?.....in other words china and the us is intertwined right now.....but make no mistake about it. china is in a way better position than the us is in.and any rational ceo,financial investor, and business owners would not have any quarels with letting you know that. including the federal reserve itself.......the united states no longer control's it's own destiny.that is fact not fiction.but unfortunely that is world and reality that the united states and it's citizens live in today.true talk:smh:
 
Co-fukkin sign!! Them CACs didn't build 21,000lb bombs and all those fukkin nuclear weapons to give control up. My friend, You spoke truth!!
dude you must think the united states is the only one building bomb's.russia just not to long ago build the father of all bomb's(F.A.B.)AND THEY KEEP PERIODITACALLY DOING OVERFLIGHT'S INTO THE UK AIRSPACE WITH TU-160'S AND WHITE SWANS THAT ARE KNOWN TO CARRY A NUCLEAR PAYLOAD.
 
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