Sorry I'll take a 22 year old Lebron over at 22 year old MJ everyday of the week.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
CeeloChamp said:hes 24 but ur absolutely right
if jordan hit the nba after highschool, he would be a bum
im not saying compare lebron to jordan but lebron took his team to the finals
out of highschool and at an earlier age
what happens when u overhype someone, ur quick to call them a failure
if they dont achieve what a previous great achieved, but people fail to realize
that age and time matters
so even if lebron loses in the finals who cares he has a million more years to
win it and he will atleast once
Blu Diablo said:Mannn yah cats are quick to crown a new king and even quicker to dethrone him. The Lebrons beat the Pistons, shouldn't have happened but it did when Detroit suddenly and inexplicably stopped playing any real defense except Rasheed (dudes running out of the way of dunks instead of shot blocking or at least attempting the block -- Tayshaun).
Now the Cavs are playing a team that actually plays defense (team defense) and has a dude on the court that takes pride in playing D cuz that his meal ticket and the Cavs are being exposed for exactly who we knew they were (props to Denny Green for that line -- most honest post game ever).
This ain't a knock on Lebron, just part of his maturation process after all he never had college to have key games to perform in so he's actually ahead of the curve, but in a much different league than Jordan played in at the same stage of his career, so comparisons have to be thrown out.
The Cavs will prolly get they asses swept, whether they'll ever be back is up to Lebron stepping his game up and Cleveland management building a better team, but to compare Lebron to Jordan on any level besides the fact that they both played pro basketball is fuckin' retarded.![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Blu Diablo said:Mannn yah cats are quick to crown a new king and even quicker to dethrone him. The Lebrons beat the Pistons, shouldn't have happened but it did when Detroit suddenly and inexplicably stopped playing any real defense except Rasheed (dudes running out of the way of dunks instead of shot blocking or at least attempting the block -- Tayshaun).
Now the Cavs are playing a team that actually plays defense (team defense) and has a dude on the court that takes pride in playing D cuz that his meal ticket and the Cavs are being exposed for exactly who we knew they were (props to Denny Green for that line -- most honest post game ever).
This ain't a knock on Lebron, just part of his maturation process after all he never had college to have key games to perform in so he's actually ahead of the curve, but in a much different league than Jordan played in at the same stage of his career, so comparisons have to be thrown out.
The Cavs will prolly get they asses swept, whether they'll ever be back is up to Lebron stepping his game up and Cleveland management building a better team, but to compare Lebron to Jordan on any level besides the fact that they both played pro basketball is fuckin' retarded.![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Mask said:great point, Bron Bron is kinda ahead of the learning curve, i know he's in the NBA, everybody on here seems to agree that he needs some help in Cleveland, will he get it most likely, but I think they could make things happen with this team, if they get discipline on defense, and Bron Bron mid range game gets better along with the foul line, Mike Brown is doing a nice job with this young team, so give them a great off season, they could be here often,
I do think this is a nice showing for free agents,
FJP said:To be honest Jordan wouldnt beat San Antonio with that Cleveland team. Spurs team is very deep, they play excellent D and when Crunch time comes they have a superior big man. Shit Jordans Bulls might not have beat This Spurs team. The Spurs play an old school type of ball. People may not like it but they are a GREAT team. They can beat you anyway. They got fast break players in Parker/Ginobli, big man in Duncan, and most of their role players used to be starters or in Finleys case All Stars.
Just sometime you come along at the wrong time. Like Ewing, Malone and Barkley did.
FJP said:Shit Jordans Bulls might not have beat This Spurs team. The Spurs play an old school type of ball. People may not like it but they are a GREAT team.
Blunt said:This Cavaliers team is probably the worst (in terms of their roster of top-to-bottom talent) to ever make it to the finals. They have no business being there, which makes what Lebron accomplished, single-handedly, all the more remarkable. He's not the "problem." lol. Anyone who thought they actually had a chance against the great San Antonio dynasty, featuring the game's best player over the last decade, must've been smokin' somethin'.
ucantcme73 said:People act like Jordan never missed a shot or ever made an mistake. Most of you peeps in here only knowledge of Jordan is from youtube clips where all they show is highlights
DaleMabry said:Yeah I was watching ESPN classic and I was surprised at some of the mistakes that greats like Bird, Magic, Kareen, Jordan, Pippen and the Pistons were making. We tend to idealize their games after all these years. They were beasts but everyone makes mistakes.
Blunt said:Jordan was 28 when he finally made it to the finals (with Pippen's help). Lebron is only 22 (and all alone).
Give it up.
co-fuckin-signBackshot Bully said:![]()
SAYS WHO ?
YOU KNOW HOW MANY GREAT NBA PLAYERS LEFT THE LEAUGUE WITH NO RING ?
THE ONLY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE TODAY THAT"S EVEN COMPARABLE TO MJ IS KOBE
LEBROOM DOES"NT HAVE THE SAME HEART AND PASSION FOR THE GAME AS MJ OR EVEN KOBE
![]()
eewwll said:I respect the Spurs. They have a great team but the Bulls beat BETTER teams. The Chicago Bulls beat the Spurs just like the others... a series never makes it to game 7.
ronmch20 said:You fuckers are so fickle. When LeBron was taking Detroit apart you were calling him potentially the G.O.A.T Now he's shit???? Even Jordan couldn't do it alone. When LeBron gets some really talented help and Cleveland starts kickin' ass on the regular, fair weather bitches like you will climb right back on the band wagon.![]()
Sir Good Drank said:When is the world going to stop comparing him to the wrong MJ.
Because he's not the next Michael Jordan but more so the next Magic Johnson. His game is much more similar to Magic's than Jordan. His Size is also more Magic johnson and less Jordan. He brings the ball up the floor, he passes, he plays on the low block..... etc. All the critics and analyst have had it wrong since day one. When his career starts to take off and he begins to average triple doubles night in and night out then you'll know what I'm talking about.
FJP said:You have your opinion. I have mine. I think this Spurs team could beat any team the Bulls beat. They have the greatest PF of all time In my opinion, who may I add shows up in the Finals, (Bout to be on his 4th Finals MVP). Thats nearing Jordan range. Most importantly their best player doesnt have to score the most points for them to win.
The only team I dont think these spurs would have beat was the LA team...But then again I do because that LA team was at the end of their run of competitiveness when they met the Bulls.
I think they'd beat those Suns because the Suns for the most part still play the same way now. The Spurs play D and Barkley OR Joe Klein or AC Green or whoever you put on Duncan would have been a mismatch.
The Blazers I cant lie were good but Tony Parker I think would take advantage of Terry Porter on the speed tip and Bruce Bowen would give Drexler alot of Comp and again....Buck Williams or Kevin Duckworth wouldnt be able to handle Duncan,plus the deepness of the Spurs bench. I'd say atleast 4 players on their bench can start on about half the teams in the league right now.
Gemini said:WTF you are you talking about?When did I call Lebron a potentially G.O.A.T, and when did I say he was shit? When was I ever on Lebrons band wagon you dumb fuck. LOL getting mad because Bron and his team is fucking up.
Get off his dick. That shit don't look right, getting all emotional on a porn board.
Scroll down to post 21 you fair weather bitch.
Cleveland!!! Cleveland!!! Cleveland!!!
http://198.65.131.81/board/showthread.php?t=176321
supreme_math said:what the Fuck? Jordan had to play against Charles Barkley, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuan, Reggie Miller, Dennis Rodman, Bill Lambeer, Dominic Wilkins, Larry Bird, Patrick Ewing and the Knicks etc...thats why. Another ignant statement down the drain!
FJP said:You have your opinion. I have mine. I think this Spurs team could beat any team the Bulls beat. They have the greatest PF of all time In my opinion, who may I add shows up in the Finals, (Bout to be on his 4th Finals MVP). Thats nearing Jordan range. Most importantly their best player doesnt have to score the most points for them to win.
The only team I dont think these spurs would have beat was the LA team...But then again I do because that LA team was at the end of their run of competitiveness when they met the Bulls.
I think they'd beat those Suns because the Suns for the most part still play the same way now. The Spurs play D and Barkley OR Joe Klein or AC Green or whoever you put on Duncan would have been a mismatch.
The Blazers I cant lie were good but Tony Parker I think would take advantage of Terry Porter on the speed tip and Bruce Bowen would give Drexler alot of Comp and again....Buck Williams or Kevin Duckworth wouldnt be able to handle Duncan,plus the deepness of the Spurs bench. I'd say atleast 4 players on their bench can start on about half the teams in the league right now.
Nobody said:THANK YOU!!!!!
When Jordan was coming up in the league he was facing off against the Pistons, and Celtics. A young bulls team was bound to get their asses handed to them early, facing off against teams at the HEIGHT of their dominance.
The REAL difference between Jordan then and Lebron now in the playoffs, is that Lebron didn't face the same type of challenge until all the way in the finals, where Jordan faced that challenge in round 1.
The same way Jordan didn't really see success until Pippen was the fact that he NEEDED that help to get over, and if Lebron played in the WEST, he'd be going through the same thing. Instead he needs help to get over the Spurs.
The Cavs faced a depleted Wizards team, and although they got swept, they still kept it close enough to make you wonder. Then the Nets, who the Cavs kept letting back into the series when they should have finished them off, and then the Pistons, a team which finally broke down, after 5 seasons of playoff excellence.
As for these Spurs vs. The Old Bulls.
I'll say this, I think the matchup would be something else, but ultimately I would give the nod to the Bulls.
Consider this, the Bulls have something the Cavs don't. More than one offensive weapon, shooters who perform in the cluch, and a smothering defense.
MJ would guard Tony Parker -- No one on the cavs are quick enough to stay with Parker, you think he would put up 24 pts on 53% on Jordan?
Pippen would guard Ginobili or Finley. Pippen is one of the best defenders ever. Nuff said.
Dennis Rodman would give Tim Duncan hell, and with Pippen and Jordan keeping Parker and Ginobili troubled, all Rodman would have to do is disrupt his game enough.
Bruce Bowen cannot handle physical players who are not fazed by his antics. Jordan would abuse Bowen, posting him up and getting him into foul trouble.
The Bulls beat the Jazz twice, and although I consider Duncan ahead of Malone on the all time PF list, Malone is certainly number 2, or at least interchangeable. Then you have Stockton who is waaaay ahead of Parker.
I still gotta give it to the bulls because they are like the spurs, in the sense that they can play defense and still have a phenominal offense too.
Ultimately I give Bron props for the Detroit series. It's cool he made the finals but I cannot act like what he's done is so magical, considering out of all the teams in the first round, the Cavs had the easiest matchup.
---
Oh and the reason Kobe is always brought up is simple.
Face it, love him or hate him he's the only player in the NBA near the level of Jordan.
Now, don't flip out yet, I'm not talking about him being better, or rings.
But of all the players in the NBA who has the talent, the game, AND the following and interest to captivate people on the grand stage?
Replace the Cavs with the Lakers (who have a team just as bad, if not worse) and ratings SKYROCKET.
He is the Jordan of this generation, when you consider all the people who love him, all the people who hate him, and the attention he recieves.
If the NBA wants to see finals with high ratings, Kobe HAS to be there.
Now to dude who said Bron is more like Magic.
Imagine if Bron and Kobe were playing on the same team. It's be the closest thing to Jordan and Pippen ever on some Kareem/Magic shit, and it would work perfect because Kobe can be the man for 4-6 more seasons, and when Bron is 28 and Kobe 34 or so, they swap.
Shit would be ill for the nba and it's fans, but it won't happen.
FJP said:The only team I dont think these spurs would have beat was the LA team...But then again I do because that LA team was at the end of their run of competitiveness when they met the Bulls.
Here we go again!!!Backshot Bully said:![]()
SAYS WHO ?
YOU KNOW HOW MANY GREAT NBA PLAYERS LEFT THE LEAUGUE WITH NO RING ?
THE ONLY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE TODAY THAT"S EVEN COMPARABLE TO MJ IS KOBE
LEBROOM DOES"NT HAVE THE SAME HEART AND PASSION FOR THE GAME AS MJ OR EVEN KOBE
![]()
Blaq said:WTF!![]()
The LA team was the weakest team the Bulls faced in the Finals. Just like Cleveland shouldn't really be in the Finals (testament to Lebron), LA shouldn't have been in the Finals that year. It should have been Portland. They made it the next year. I HATE to sometimes bring your age into the debate, but you were roughly 10 years old during that time. There is no way that you can speak on that with any credibility.
San Antonio could have possibly beat that LA team but that's it. They wouldn't have beat Phoenix (have you ever heard of Richard Dumas? He gave Pippen fits at times during that series.), Portland, Seattle or Utah.
Let me jog your memory.
![]()
![]()
Jordan
Harper
Pippen
Rodman
Kukoc
San Antonio wouldn't have any answers for those players up top. If you really followed the Bulls you would know that they really didn't match up well with Portland or Seattle. Those western conference teams used to give them fits, until the Finals! No team at that time was better at making adjustments game to game. From the coaching staff to the players on the court, they knew what it took to win. During those championship years they went seven games only twice (NY & Indy) & always made quick work of earlier opponents.
The '98 Utah team alone with Malone, Stockton, Hornacek, Carr & the younger kats, Russell, Anderson & Eisley would probably beat this Spurs team in 5 or 6 games.