Larry Johnson: "Blacks should start their own league"

[brickwall92]

The ultimate ownership is owning a league with majority black team owners and you wont get that by buying teams in a majority white league. If the majority of the current players in the present all white majority owned league are black (nba) then what is stopping a black owned league? The talent is already there.

posted from a hood near you

Good point.. it's weird that... Majority black things are still ran by whites in such dominate fashion

Imagine .. If Hockey and Golf.. Players.. agent's and lawyers etc were mostly black ? .... yeah wouldn't happen right ? ,but on the opposite end .. that's how it is for the Nfl and NBA...


I don't care if some players have a white agent.... the point is most white players keep it white... if it was balanced on both sides with the "best" truly getting a shot... It would be kosher.... it just looks weird..

 

[ankhheru]

Its a lot of self defeating mindsets in this thread. Brothers who i thought had more determination and vision.

posted from a hood near you

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

This couldn't happen could it?

Would black players support it? I doubt it

no, but I'd support seeing that pussy

 

[ankhheru]

Its a lot of self defeating mindsets in this thread. Brothers who i thought had more determination and vision.

posted from a hood near you

 

[ankhheru]

Its a lot of self defeating mindsets in this thread. Brothers who i thought had more determination and vision.

posted from a hood near you

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

This couldn't happen could it?

Would black players support it? I doubt it

no, but I'd support seeing that pussy

 

[Teknique310]

This couldn't happen could it?

Would black players support it? I doubt it

Most wouldnt just like everyday society. They have been breed to fear.

And the fear of thier own is piped in daily through the media. Its a bunch smart cats on this board that do the same under the guise of being pro black in a country full of guns. But they are scared of guns just like a suburban house wife. But talk war.

And they discount area's of black culture they fear & dont understand.

The fear of fending for ourselves digs deeper. Our own mistrust in our own. And its rampant.

I'm not gone air out the scary ass rappers I've come across. I love the art form itself beyond the cowards as I have come across over the years.

The goal of rappers is to sell out & not speak. Thats when an art form is compromised.

Could this record be a single TODAY ?

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It worked with no black billionaires. Now with a few & few a more knocking on the door & a black president. Thats bringing out some deep seated shit. Get yo shit together, NO MERCY IS COMING.

Black man cant live in fear. My family can tell me stories of shit I have never faced.

Watch Spike Lee's doc on Katrina again & know why every black man should own an assault rifle,boots & 4WD

PSSSSSS - That hat Chuck D is wearing means something, and its same reason NWA made it even more popular.

 

[sturmars]

He would have more credibility if he knew that the word "your" is not the word "you're" .....UNLV

That whole post is littered with tucked up grammar and spellings. "To for Self!"

 

[Mentor B]

The African-American male is the number one trend setter. With that said, it really wouldn't take much for us to start our own league - especially with social media being a benefactor in the facilitation of it becoming ubiquitous.

A person like Magic Johnson could be the commissioner of the league because he has the resources to fund the need for venues for players to play. Meanwhile, we get our most talented high school coaches to recruit the dopest basketball players in the hood for their team: Inglewood, Watts, Harlem, North County St. Louis, South Chicago, Liberty City Miami, etc. Once teams are finally established, they register with Magic Johnson's newly formed basketball league.

Then we get P Diddy to televise games on his Revolt TV Network. For those who miss the action on cable, upload the footage to Youtube, Vine, Instagram, Worldstar, and so on.

It's really not that fucking hard. When are Black people with money going to take it further and discuss business pertaining to something as monumental as this?

 

[oolong tea]

The African-American male is the number one trend setter. With that said, it really wouldn't take much for us to start our own league - especially with social media being a benefactor in the facilitation of it becoming ubiquitous.

A person like Magic Johnson could be the commissioner of the league because he has the resources to fund the need for venues for players to play. Meanwhile, we get our most talented high school coaches to recruit the dopest basketball players in the hood for their team: Inglewood, Watts, Harlem, North County St. Louis, South Chicago, Liberty City Miami, etc. Once teams are finally established, they register with Magic Johnson's newly formed basketball league.

Then we get P Diddy to televise games on his Revolt TV Network. For those who miss the action on cable, upload the footage to Youtube, Vine, Instagram, Worldstar, and so on.

It's really not that fucking hard. When are Black people with money going to take it further and discuss business pertaining to something as monumental as this?

It's not the making of the teams as an issue. It's the issue of selling out. We sold out to returning to Africa. We sold out to desegregation. We sold out hip hop by compromising for dollars. We sold out BET for bullshit programming. And the up and coming players would sell out to larger white owned leagues if the chance presented itself.

 

[sammyjax]

Point that RIF to you... North Florida..

I never said non blacks wouldn't be allowed wtf ? ,but he does advocate a league owned by black people.. not just a team like some are are saying he wants the whole pie... his last words were "do for self"


Any one who knows Larry Johnson knows he's extremely pro black and doesn't mince his words.. he says what he means and means what he says

who said anything about exclusivity ? by race ? you're making up shit I never said.. You do get snappy on posters on here often...smh

fuck north florida got to do with me?

i didn't say you said that, i said the writer of the article, which you either didn't read, didn't understand, or didn't retain, tried to flip his tweet into "LJ calls for all black league." white writer tryna put slick extras on shit, which i hate. i don't need to be schooled on LJs pro black history my nig.

you're the one that quoted me tryna be smart on some 'well he did say own'...am i wrong?

i showed you what i meant and if you would have READ, you'd have gotten that before you even popped off. while you READING, show me where i said you said that shit.

but whatever bruh.

niggas earn my 'snappy'. i see you watchin though

 

[big pimp]

too many of us are willing to sit at the table others prepared and beg to eat instead of making our own table.

Posted from a hood near you

c/s.

 

[sammyjax]

That whole post is littered with tucked up grammar and spellings. "To for Self!"

ironical.

It's really not that fucking hard.

man...that is not some weekend project shit you are talking about bruh.

you have to keep thinking about that all the way through. even just in terms of logistics, that's a lot of shit. but then when you factor in the OPPOSITION...that's where the real problems come in.

old money, old guard...we would have to be able to make every single move independent of their infrastructure. all those old partnerships built on those Sterling-esque principles...they go t each others back against us way harder than they wanna see us get any justice or fairness.

our play has to be constructed in a way that they can't see coming and can't do anything about when they do. and that's not an easy feat, especially when the power structure still signs the checks of the richest of us that we would turn to to fund this revolution.

 

[ankhheru]

ironical.

man...that is not some weekend project shit you are talking about bruh.

you have to keep thinking about that all the way through. even just in terms of logistics, that's a lot of shit. but then when you factor in the OPPOSITION...that's where the real problems come in.

old money, old guard...we would have to be able to make every single move independent of their infrastructure. all those old partnerships built on those Sterling-esque principles...they go t each others back against us way harder than they wanna see us get any justice or fairness.

our play has to be constructed in a way that they can't see coming and can't do anything about when they do. and that's not an easy feat, especially when the power structure still signs the checks of the richest of us that we would turn to to fund this revolution.

Same was said about slavery. If it was done once it can be done again.

posted from a hood near you

 

[sammyjax]

Same was said about slavery. If it was done once it can be done again.

posted from a hood near you

they said getting out of slavery would be easy?

i'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, to be clear. i was just responding to the whole "it's really not that fucking hard" thing.

our play has to be constructed in a way that they can't see coming and can't do anything about when they do.

 

[kes1111]

 

[prowess]

Because I want to promote how worthless and disgusting the black bitch is.



is is a lot of things.....

please ummmm extrapolate on the bold
that black bitch?
black bitches?
ur online with no respect for a black girl
and just as pathetic as what u promote

other than that tho

Where the hell has Grand-ma-ma been?

 

[sammyjax]

please ummmm extrapolate on the bold
that black bitch?
black bitches?
ur online with no respect for a black girl
and just as pathetic as what u promote

other than that tho

dude prolly a honkey bruh

 

[Black Radical]

It would never work because its too much work.

Its not a matter of waking up one day and starting your own league. That's not how it works.

And that's not a excuse. That's just why this is how it is.

Its why MJ gets 3% his profits per shoes rather than start his own shoe company.

MJ doesn't have to work for shit. He just has to sit back and collect money. To start your own company? You have to work 24/7. That's how creating your own league would be.

But these guys. They not about this life. They content with how things are now. They are a cool with the easy 20 million a year as a opposed to the hard 1 billion a year.

Not to mention the risk. There is no guarantee they r successful. USFL wasn't. CFL wasn't. Dudes dont need their own loeague perse although that would be great, they just need more unity, less stupid spending, and more collective economic endeavors that benefit their pockets and the community. They should have their own fund, credit union, and on and on.

 

[Black Radical]

ironical.

man...that is not some weekend project shit you are talking about bruh.

you have to keep thinking about that all the way through. even just in terms of logistics, that's a lot of shit. but then when you factor in the OPPOSITION...that's where the real problems come in.

old money, old guard...we would have to be able to make every single move independent of their infrastructure. all those old partnerships built on those Sterling-esque principles...they go t each others back against us way harder than they wanna see us get any justice or fairness.

our play has to be constructed in a way that they can't see coming and can't do anything about when they do. and that's not an easy feat, especially when the power structure still signs the checks of the richest of us that we would turn to to fund this revolution.

this too.

 

[Day_Carver]

the ultimate ownership is owning a league with majority black team owners and you wont get that by buying teams in a majority white league. If the majority of the current players in the present all white majority owned league are black (nba) then what is stopping a black owned league? The talent is already there.

Posted from a hood near you

real simple, what medium will they broadcast on??? And what advertising dollars would they be able to obtain if every single one of the major industries in the world is controlled by whites??? Advertising dollars are what makes all these sports leagues money!!!! They still would have to bow in some way to whites...you ninjas better recognize and stop trying to reinvent the wheel; get money within the system and bring other blacks up with you!!!!!!!

 

[godofwine]

Larry is 100% correct.

LJ is spot on.

BEEN screaming this! Screaming it! Since the football work stoppage a few years ago.

Black owned league, invested by black people, with SHARES of stock in the league.

Funding a BLACK SPORTS CHANNEL to broadcast games. Negotiate contracts with stadiums to play or find alternate venues.

The TV deal would be enormous. Black and white players of course...all the heavy hitters, Bron, Melo, Paul, Wade, Rose, etc.

Imagine. Fucking imagine how those racist bastards would have to kiss the scepter now!

I've been talking this since last year's discussion about the best man holiday. Black people for years have been begging for a seat at the white man's table. Playing in the white mans games like the gladiator, risking life and limb 4 the white man's Entertainment all while collecting pennies while the White man collects thousands of dollars or more.

it is possible, we just have to figure out a way to do it and not waste time arguing about which way to do it, who is right and who is wrong. in Northeast Ohio we just had one of the last dollar movie theaters close. what is to stop some black owners 2 buy it, remodel it and turn it into a combination movie theater/playhouse? we could put on black plays there, have movies with all black cast, we could do so much with a movie theater or more in every big city.

doing something like this would stop the 50 black actors from fighting over the three seats that white people allow us to have in their movies. that would work towards solving the hollywood part. the basketball and football leagues would be more difficult because building a theater is much cheaper than building a stadium.

it would be difficult, but not impossible. There would have to be Sirius sacrifices but the rewards would be huge. All it would take is for people not to be greedy which is the greatest detriment to the black community outside of the need to be flashy & the failure to recognize the importance of education.

white owners would force our leagues to fail simply by divide and conquer. They would tell LeBron, and a few other top black players that they would pay them a ton of money to play in their league vs the all black startup. At first we would not be able to financially compete with the billionaires and those athletes failure to recognize the big picture would cost us the chance to start our own league.they know that we are very easily divided which is why we are where we are as an entire people. Our success are pebbles throne in a pond in the grand scheme of things when it could and should be much greater.

we are the talent and we make pennies compared to their thousands. we need to stop being content with that. you tell me how the NFL has gotten away with a one sided contract structure? The players are held to their end of the bargain but can be cut at any time and be owed nothing more. every other contract everywhere else is binding on both sides, yet NFL players are not protected but the owners are. The player can't leave and play for another team or another league but the team does not have to hold their end of the bargain. How has the NFL gotten away with that after all these years? That is the question. If the players just left and started their own league even though they are under contract what would stop them? It is only a 1 sided deal anyway

 

[godofwine]

real simple, what medium will they broadcast on??? And what advertising dollars would they be able to obtain if every single one of the major industries in the world is controlled by whites??? Advertising dollars are what makes all these sports leagues money!!!! They still would have to bow in some way to whites...you ninjas better recognize and stop trying to reinvent the wheel; get money within the system and bring other blacks up with you!!!!!!!

the system is rigged so that you cannot get money within the system to compare with the money they make off of you being in the system.add to it that many of the black players are extremely materialistic. Add to it that many of the black players go out and spend frivolously. Some of the things they try to do is well intentioned but still incorrect. buying mama a mansion sounds nice, but buying a woman whose children are grown huge mansion is poor thinking. A condo with 3 to 4 bedrooms would be more appropriate and cheaper by a mile but that is not the route they take. Doing less in their minds shows that they don't love their mother.

When you include the Diamonds, the jewelry, the cars, the entourage it is no wonder that most are broke to destitute five to ten years after their career.it would be extremely difficult 2 work something like this because too many black athletes stare at one painting and fail to see the museum. am I wrong in thinking this?

 

[The Plutonian]

He would have more credibility if he knew that the word "your" is not the word "you're" .....UNLV

Man you must be that dude at work lmao That's all i saw too but if LJ was on this why not start it when his ol cross dressing ass was active?

 

[Better]

I HATE to say this, because I've kind of been on a high the past few days seeing so many of my people coming together...

...HOWEVER, this is a LAUGHABLE idea, and it's laughable because I don't feel a lot people realize how many levels deep the white power structure is.

Everything you would need to make this the success it would need to be to even make doing it worthwhile, is dependent upon white people.

The sponsors?

The television networks?

The land for the stadiums?

The MONEY for the stadium(s)?

They COULD do it for the sake of independence and black solidarity, but they'd make CONSIDERABLY less money. CONSIDERABLY less. They would ALIENATE their white fan-base, who just so happens to be .....

...nah, I don't think some people are thinking.

Those mega-salaries don't materialize out of thin air.

I don't think any of these dudes hate racists and white people that much.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Nigga u acting like lebron and Kobe can't holla at nike to fund this new NBA

Phil Knight would have a rock hard on knowing he's gets exclusive everything when it comes to basketball

 

[Better]

Nigga u acting like lebron and Kobe can't holla at nike to fund this new NBA

Phil Knight would have a rock hard on knowing he's gets exclusive everything when it comes to basketball

Nike is going to fund the NBA?

Why didn't I think of that????

 

[DJCandle]

I HATE to say this, because I've kind of been on a high the past few days seeing so many of my people coming together...

...HOWEVER, this is a LAUGHABLE idea, and it's laughable because I don't feel a lot people realize how many levels deep the white power structure is.

Everything you would need to make this the success it would need to be to even make doing it worthwhile, is dependent upon white people.

The sponsors?

The television networks?

The land for the stadiums?

The MONEY for the stadium(s)?

They COULD do it for the sake of independence and black solidarity, but they'd make CONSIDERABLY less money. CONSIDERABLY less. They would ALIENATE their white fan-base, who just so happens to be .....

...nah, I don't think some people are thinking.

Those mega-salaries don't materialize out of thin air.

I don't think any of these dudes hate racists and white people that much.

Thank you for saving me some time.

All of the companies that people want to broadcast via YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Vine, basically all of Internet, are controlled by white folks. Ask eewwll about who runs Silicon Valley..

Nevermind Nike, Adidas, Gatorade, and whatever else you see out there that's paying the entertainment bill.

Great idea Larry, but extremely naive for a NY Knick exec.

 

[sahusahir]

it's already a black league. the players need to organize, think big, make bold moves, assert themselves and speak truth to power. they have a lot of wealth & power, but are indoctrinated to ingratiate themselves to white power institutions and just be part of the happenings. they have money and never stack their chips together to leverage & institute change. change is inevitable tho, they can wait 50 or more years or make it happen in 10.

the crazy shit is this is a microcosm of the problem black people in this country have. we have some wealth & power but don't know what to do with it. we got a floss addiction, a poverty-stricken mindset and we still trying to make America accept us and we don't accept ourselves. God bless us, may we find the courage & fortitude to think & act outside the box and lead this country in a better direction.

 

[sahusahir]

I HATE to say this, because I've kind of been on a high the past few days seeing so many of my people coming together...

...HOWEVER, this is a LAUGHABLE idea, and it's laughable because I don't feel a lot people realize how many levels deep the white power structure is.

Everything you would need to make this the success it would need to be to even make doing it worthwhile, is dependent upon white people.

The sponsors?

The television networks?

The land for the stadiums?

The MONEY for the stadium(s)?

They COULD do it for the sake of independence and black solidarity, but they'd make CONSIDERABLY less money. CONSIDERABLY less. They would ALIENATE their white fan-base, who just so happens to be .....

...nah, I don't think some people are thinking.

Those mega-salaries don't materialize out of thin air.

I don't think any of these dudes hate racists and white people that much.

we believe in white power & wealth. we forget, they made their money off us. we forget nike wasn't shit until jordan arrived. we believe in them and we don't believe in ourselves. donald sterling can't hit a jump shot or dunk the ball. ain't nobody coming to see donald sterling play basketball. be clear, i not talking about being anti-white or some narrow black nationalist fantasy. i want us to shine & live up to our full potential. it takes all kinds to make the world go around and they can do it without us either. they understand that, we don't. and thats the only difference.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Nike is going to fund the NBA?

Why didn't I think of that????

Forest from trees

Nike can own basketball on the entire globe exclusively

Have all the nike ballers play ball all over the world to promote to new league

Have Phil Knight work out the business and finances with magic Johnson and oprah

It can happen if everyone is on the same page

Imagine like 10 teams wht all raw ass players

Have a Adidas d league so they can Eat too

U gotta weed out the leeches

Nigga there is no Jerry jones of the NBA
Let p Diddy get a team for NyC

 

[Better]

My brother...

...it's REALLY not about the belief, and it's really not about HOW they obtained what they have when it comes down to long term projects w/ such complex logistics.

The REALITY is, you can't name ANY black owned businesses that you could go to to legitimately pull this off and have it be at a scale that would be worthwhile to today's player. Worthwhile from a FINANCIAL standpoint.

That is fact. A fact that we may not like, but a fact nonetheless. As I said before, it's not that it CAN'T be done, but the white owned NBA didn't reach the level that it is now overnight. Once upon a time, superstars were being paid six figure salaries per year. You have guys making six-figures per GAME.

Not to mention, you'd be asking the white power structure for help so you can be independent. Otherwise, where is all the money going to come from? Who are going to OWN these teams? Where would the games be broadcasted W/O white help? A black-owned league would have to start REALLY small relative to the size of the NBA, and I don't have confidence that NBA players are willing to take on such an ... ambitious project, for such little compensation.

Newcomers would have to work JOBS to support themselves outside of basketball.

Real change is hard, and it can be very painful, and even ugly. This is why people become complacent.

This system is not ours, and it was never intended to be.

Now, I'm not waiving the white flag, because I believe virtually anything is possible...

...but that doesn't mean I feel far flung possibilities won't require tremendous sacrifice, effort and patience.

we believe in white power & wealth. we forget, they made their money off us. we forget nike wasn't shit until jordan arrived. we believe in them and we don't believe in ourselves. donald sterling can't hit a jump shot or dunk the ball. ain't nobody coming to see donald sterling play basketball. be clear, i not talking about being anti-white or some narrow black nationalist fantasy. i want us to shine & live up to our full potential. it takes all kinds to make the world go around and they can do it without us either. they understand that, we don't. and thats the only difference.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

It doesn't have to be the same players playing each other everythibg night

We can switch it up

One night KD and Lebron team up and one night they going at it

Shit would be pure fire

 

[BigATLslim]

I like this thread.

I like where Larry is going.

I like the cats in this thread that are critically thinking this idea from the rooter to the tooter.

The first step, however, is MINDSET i.e. knowledge of self...yeah, that's the end of the rant.

Until these cats have the mindset WITH the opportunity to flip their wealth, we don't need to be startin' sh!t.

However, we do need to look at the negro leagues, HBCU's, and leagues in minority zip codes and see what type of bandwith is there, just to get an idea without being on front street.

I firmly believe it will take a lot of resources, but with a united effort not as many as one would think.

I would need the resident BGOL accountants to run the numbers on this, though.

Now, that's the end of the rant.

I disagree about our own league. Own team I am for. Why would you racially separate. You'll also be separating yourself from a lot of ticket sales. But I get where he's coming from

F*ck that, with change comes sacrifice.

Plus, if we are all going to see our team, don't think whites won't show up...they have been mesmerized by a superior game as well. It goes both ways.

Where the hell has Grand-ma-ma been?

In the Knicks front office, still eatin'...

Just curious, how much do you think it would take to launch
something like this ?
Round number ?

Resident BGOL accountants, get on this!

The African-American male is the number one trend setter. With that said, it really wouldn't take much for us to start our own league - especially with social media being a benefactor in the facilitation of it becoming ubiquitous.

A person like Magic Johnson could be the commissioner of the league because he has the resources to fund the need for venues for players to play. Meanwhile, we get our most talented high school coaches to recruit the dopest basketball players in the hood for their team: Inglewood, Watts, Harlem, North County St. Louis, South Chicago, Liberty City Miami, etc. Once teams are finally established, they register with Magic Johnson's newly formed basketball league.

Then we get P Diddy to televise games on his Revolt TV Network. For those who miss the action on cable, upload the footage to Youtube, Vine, Instagram, Worldstar, and so on.

It's really not that fucking hard. When are Black people with money going to take it further and discuss business pertaining to something as monumental as this?

I love this mindset.

The brush strokes are hard, but you laid out a great framework.

I don't really think Africans in America know how powerful they are i.e. EVERYTHING America has done, is doing, and will do, is lead by African thought, with European financiers, for global gain.

It's not that we can't, it's that they made sure to make it that we couldn't...unless we WOKE THE F*CK UP, and it looks like that's what's happening, via what...SOCIAL MEDIA!

MESSAGE!

My brother...

...it's REALLY not about the belief, and it's really not about HOW they obtained what they have when it comes down to long term projects w/ such complex logistics.

The REALITY is, you can't name ANY black owned businesses that you could go to to legitimately pull this off and have it be at a scale that would be worthwhile to today's player. Worthwhile from a FINANCIAL standpoint.

That is fact. A fact that we may not like, but a fact nonetheless. As I said before, it's not that it CAN'T be done, but the white owned NBA didn't reach the level that it is now overnight. Once upon a time, superstars were being paid six figure salaries per year. You have guys making six-figures per GAME.

Not to mention, you'd be asking the white power structure for help so you can be independent. Otherwise, where is all the money going to come from? Who are going to OWN these teams? Where would the games be broad coasted W/O white help? A black-owned league would have to start REALLY small relative to the size of the NBA, and I don't have confidence that NBA players are willing to take on such an ... ambitious project, for such little compensation.

Newcomers would have to work JOBS to support themselves outside of basketball.

Real change is hard, and it can be very painful, and even ugly. This is why people become complacent.

This system is not ours, and it was never intended to be.

Now, I'm not waiving the white flag, because I believe virtually anything is possible...

...but that doesn't mean I feel far flung possibilities won't require tremendous sacrifice, effort and patience.

Man, this knowledge! You broke a lot of sh!t down on the real.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Larry Johnson for President!!!