Kobe in his prime got swept by Dallas
KOBE: 'He The Best' - Michael Eric Dyson Makes the Case for Why Black Mamba Is the G.O.A.T.
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Just want to check with Fam man! We've had some heated debates over the years but we've been cool lately.... Dont want to regress!
you a fool man
You're using the wrong word man. That teams was a Rasheed Wallace bone head play away from repeating. It just didn't have a superstar, but it wasn't "mediocre". I mean that team would go to the finals this year, easily.
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They were less exciting but highly effective. They played defense and were smart, and could hit from outside. With that/ those Piston teams, you're looking at a well rounded unit.
Dude continues to expose himself. Don't waste your time.
Kobe
Reachhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Im willing to admit there may be some wiggle room here.. But in the context of title teams, no other one has zero NBA first teamers and no top 75 all time player, maybe even 100. So in that space, they are a lesser collective of talented individuals.. How is that phrase for you since you find mediocre problematic? "Lesser collective of talented individuals"?
And to keep it all the way fair, Sheed had top 75 all time talent. Just didnt give a damn.
They wouldnt bro.
I remember wasn't that the year Dallas won it all..
yep
Kobe was on the business end of quite a few brooms actually.
You call that analysis or a counter argument? And have the nerve to say someone else is exposing themselves? Go away bro.
out of the East... man.. please... East ain't shit this year... that team always won back to back titles and easily better than the Cavs squad.
You didn't say that though. That's different context. In comparison to other title teams, yeah..not the strongest title team.
Well i framed it in that context when i mentioned other title teams having either first team nba players AND/OR top 75 greats... I still stand by my original point. But i compromised on that term you took issue with for arguments sake.
Sorry amajor
That 2004 team was powerful
They went thru several top 75 nb players in they prime
That 2004 team was powerful
They went thru several top 75 nb players in they prime
Dudes will go wayyy out of the way to make a point. And it isn't there. That's why it's hard to get new sports debaters on here. He wasn't watching ball back then. Talking about names/ mediocre. I can tell.
Murder them? LMBAO.. them niggas barely winning now...lmbao.. these niggas aint beating ANY championship teams.
They went thru 3 top 75 players in their prime. Kidd, Snack, Tobe.
The title was won by Tobe hijacking the offense and getting owned by Tayshaun.
They played a atrocious eastern schedule and won a bunch of games against 30 win teams. They were 1-3 against the pacers and split with the nets that season. The rest of the field was trash.
At this point im getting too far away from my original point and that is Tobe isnt a top 5 player. I mentioned this team to note his failures and shortcomings in supporting that stance.
Again, its the only title team without an all nba player and no top 75 player. Sorry.
Post Shaq? Dallas and OKC. He didn't play against the Spurs. That's only two.
Been talking heavy sports here well over a decade. My track record speaks for itself. I have no recall of you in any of those discussions. Even now as others are making their case you focus on me like an obsessed bitch. Go away.
That team really had no COMP and only beat the Lakers cause Kobe want Shaq gone........Bron is still a beast and with Love Iving they would murder them.
You're joking right?
I rember after that lost to dallas......SVP had stat that Kobe had more blow out playoff loses than than any top ten player ever
So should Shaq not be considered a top ten player because of that finals loss, or the other numerous times he was swept (since we talking about sweeps now), is Kidd not one of the best pgs ever?
Again, this is your opinion, so whatever. But I'll take the opinion of people that have played with him and against him, and not to mention, other hall of fame players. I think they can judge better than you.
Nigga please. The Indiana Pacers' team they beat was better than this Cavs team. They won 61 games.
Love and Irving ain't murdering niggas now and they aint faced any teams as good defensively as that Pistons squads. Only way that team is winning is if Lebron scores 40 a game and has a triple double.
This Cavs squad ain't shit. Yall niggas get too caught up in names.. as a team, that Pistons squad was easily >> this Cavs squad.
Ummmm, no. Like I said, post Shaq. You said quite a few. I named two. What else?
This old ass nigga is good with sports.. I mean the nigga been watching basketball since muthafuckas was literally using shooting in fruit baskets so he should know something.
Uh oh.
Well the thing is, we cant find anyone credible who has a top ten list without Shaq. Or one with Kidd, so those two arent up for discussion i wouldnt think. As for Kobe, i seem to recall more than a few "experts" list come out this season and none had him top 5. And again, thats my original point. No way in hell hes top 5. Not up for discussion.
Well you said post Shaq. I merely mentioned the guy got swept. His laker team was swept two years ago by the Spurs. He played 80 games that year and was a 7th or 8th seed iirc.
lol
kobe was inches away from leaving the lakers if they didn't pull off a heist with the grizzlies.
and then they tried to do it again with howard but howard was a mark and they didn't plan on that.
same dude who used a pivotal playoff game to prove his point about shooting and criticism.
in the fucking playoffs where the shit counts he pouted and said im going to pass and let us lose.
in the fucking playoffs where the shit counts he pouted and said im going to pass and let us lose.
Lmbao... Said amajor was learning the game while driving an old ass James Naismith around like Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy.
Lmbao... Said amajor was learning the game while driving an old ass James Naismith around like Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy.
I thought it was a joke.. but someone emailed me a pic of that nigga....shit was straight black and white.. might not have even been a pic.. might have just been painted well.. that nigga is the only living character from Underground @largebillsonlyplease
Lmbao... Said amajor was learning the game while driving an old ass James Naismith around like Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy.
this nigga fucup was in a debate talking about Wilt.. and someone was like I bet you that you aint never even seen Wilt play.... that nigga fucup literally was like "listen..when Wilt was a rookie, I told my grandkid this dude is gonna be the goat..so don't try to tell me shit about Wilt". I was like
Kobe aint GOAT.
I think everyone knows that but its a fun argument to have. Read the entire article and Dyson brings in alot of context... That doesnt amount to much.
I have no problem with anyone having Kobe in the top 5. I think we all have him top 10.
The most difficult thing to judge for Kobe is how do you view those first 3 rings?
I think everyone knows that but its a fun argument to have. Read the entire article and Dyson brings in alot of context... That doesnt amount to much.
I have no problem with anyone having Kobe in the top 5. I think we all have him top 10.
The most difficult thing to judge for Kobe is how do you view those first 3 rings?
AMAJOR they beat Wade kidd Lebron ect ass in they primes in a series.
How dare you downplay that Pistons team
They would body these Spurs so easily
How dare you downplay that Pistons team
They would body these Spurs so easily
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