Dog 40 and 10?
You have to see that it's going down now. He has those pieces around him now. And now only.
Kobe (post shaq) didn't have a Steve Kerr, didn't have a Scottie Pippen. Batman never did it without Robin. That's the bottom line.
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Dog 40 and 10?
You have to see that it's going down now. He has those pieces around him now. And now only.
Kobe (post shaq) didn't have a Steve Kerr, didn't have a Scottie Pippen. Batman never did it without Robin. That's the bottom line.
At the end of the day,none of us are NBA players (least I don't think so)
So we have opinions,which are based on 3rd person accounts.
Seems most players who Actually played against both both players think kobe has the superior skill set,and will actually go as far to say he will go down as better.
But hey,I'm just a normal negro,so what the fuck do I kno.
Even the legends (elgin baylor,Kareem,Jerry West) say kobe is The Best They Ever saw.
But I guess since they aint Crancrab,they wrong. I am now done in this thread.
So we have opinions,which are based on 3rd person accounts.
Seems most players who Actually played against both both players think kobe has the superior skill set,and will actually go as far to say he will go down as better.
But hey,I'm just a normal negro,so what the fuck do I kno.
Even the legends (elgin baylor,Kareem,Jerry West) say kobe is The Best They Ever saw.
But I guess since they aint Crancrab,they wrong. I am now done in this thread.
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Dude, everything isn't basketball related. The Lakers, as a team, was just done for. Their was NO chemistry left, and the Pistons were just straight hungry.
As much as I hate to admit it, I believe Kobe tanked that series. Kobe fans will get pissed, but like I said, I've been a major Kobe fan for years, and I know the way he approached the offensive end against Tayshaun was NOT his style. Kobe would stare at dude, and just pull up without trying to juke him or ANYTHING. That is NOT Kobe's game. If NOTHING else, that motherfucker can improvise on the offensive end, but he kept doing that, and Tayshaun's length made those shots difficult to hit. However, even my cousin recognized this - almost EVERYTIME Kobe drove to the basket, he schooled Tayshaun. But, guess what? He would hardly drive to the basket...
Nah, I honestly lost some respect for Kobe during that series - but, at the end of the day, he knew that if the Lakers lost that championship, that team was going to be broken up...
...and that's EXACTLY what happened. He didn't even cry when they lost, lol. He just walked to the lockerroom like, "Mission accomplished."
why not? all true.
i'll even give you the advantage. point me to ANY game where tobe HASN'T exhibited those detrimental qualities.
and while your at it, explain to your boy ak_rep how tobe doesn't even have the highest +/- on the fakers.
In every game that any player has played in yoou can find an instance were they made a bad play or took a bad shot so that point is null and void, the WEAK HANDLE and lazy inconsistent D is the part of the statement that made me know you on some exteme shit because Kobe has been on the All D team more than a couple of times and
weak handleoh man oh man you reaching Blunt status
you sitting up here grasping at straws and talking about others' bullshit?
son, i'm grown, so i'm gonna give you another chance to google that shit so you can come back to the table ready to talk basketball.
no need to front in this thread, son. i'm all about basketball.
come back and talk about how pau gasol FAR AND AWAY had the fakers' highest +/- this season. tobe wasn't even CLOSE.
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Dude, I know he did it last night, but Kobe rarely does that. That's exactly where I think Lebron is his superior. Lebron can give you big scoring nights, and big assist nights. Kobe actually went on a big scoring binge in that game - but he went on a big assist binge where he was over-passing at times...
...but, the Lakers offense was clicking, and he was racking up the assists. I'm telling you, that dude has the ball a lot, and when you drop 10 shots in a row, you're going to rack up the points in a hurry.
Says here he scored 2,323 points this season.
07-08 LAL 82 82 3,192 775-1,690 150-415 623-742 94 423 517 441 151 40 257 227 2,323
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/career_stats.html
http://www.nba.com/statistics/playe...Scope=SEASON&qualified=N&yearsExp=-1&splitDD=
you that straw man too, dawg?
nobody said single bad play or single bad shot.
why you trying to change shit up?
bring the game and we'll talk.
what? you want to include FTs when we were discussing points scored from the field?
you slipping, TR?
Oh you must mean minus free throws right?
Nah, just realized your statement. See my post before this.
BGOL jokes.
56 wins = no chemistry? 5 losses on the way to the NBA finals = no chemistry?
semantics issue.
tobe didn't tank. tobe tried his HARDEST to win. but tobe's HARDEST = SHOOTING MORE. tobe shot the fakers out of that series and into the fishing boat.
really, LS? another whole thread dedicated to me?
i see the IDEA of getting out of the 1st round for the 1st time in 4 years really has you geeked up.
Yep.
Your team is making another first round exit, so I decided to get you started. The Lakers probably wont win the tittle let alone the west, but I don't care. The team is looking good.
Lebron James,while who is physically gifted
A)don't have the jumpshot to fuck wit kobe
B)don't play defense as well as kobe
C)Don't have a handle anywhere near as refined as kobe
I recall a Quinten Richardson Interview from last year.
(So how difficult is it defending Lebron?,toughest matchup in the league?)
Quentin replies
"Actually,Melo is the tougher Cover nowadays"
A)don't have the jumpshot to fuck wit kobe
B)don't play defense as well as kobe
C)Don't have a handle anywhere near as refined as kobe
I recall a Quinten Richardson Interview from last year.
(So how difficult is it defending Lebron?,toughest matchup in the league?)
Quentin replies
"Actually,Melo is the tougher Cover nowadays"
nebulous claim. name 'em. because the head coach of both flatly pointed to michael jordan. as did assistant tex winter.
kareem abdul jabbar has never said that. in fact, kareem abdul jabbar has said that elgin baylor was better than tobe.
jerry west has never said that. jerry west HAS said that AT ONE TIME he THOUGHT tobe had the POTENTIAL to be the best. that was more than a decade ago.
post a link to where elgin baylor said tobe was "the best [he] ever saw".
please.
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Bottomlines:
1. Kobe's bad decision making is what seperate's him from Jordan. Kobe's confidence often exceeds his abilities, as talented as he is. Cranrab, his handle isn't weak, that dude just get's into trouble trying to be fancy, and dribble through crowds. See, I'm a big Kobe fan, but I'm also extremely critical too, and I don't give him props where he doesn't deserve them. You're incapable of giving him props, at all.
2. Kobe's single-mindedness is his greatest strength, and often his great weakness. He can put out some MAJOR numbers, in ANY facet of the game, 'cause he world-class talent. However, he can do it all at the sametime, for some weird reason. During the rape trial, everyone marveled at how he could have these big games almost everytime he came from court...
...many players in the NBA said they doubt they'd be able to do it; however, one psychologist say's that Kobe has an ability to compartmentalize, and things that would bother other people, he can shut out. That's a strength, but that ability is also how he get's trapped in one mode, almost to the exclusion of everything else.
Okay, I'm done with this thread.
1. Kobe's bad decision making is what seperate's him from Jordan. Kobe's confidence often exceeds his abilities, as talented as he is. Cranrab, his handle isn't weak, that dude just get's into trouble trying to be fancy, and dribble through crowds. See, I'm a big Kobe fan, but I'm also extremely critical too, and I don't give him props where he doesn't deserve them. You're incapable of giving him props, at all.
2. Kobe's single-mindedness is his greatest strength, and often his great weakness. He can put out some MAJOR numbers, in ANY facet of the game, 'cause he world-class talent. However, he can do it all at the sametime, for some weird reason. During the rape trial, everyone marveled at how he could have these big games almost everytime he came from court...
...many players in the NBA said they doubt they'd be able to do it; however, one psychologist say's that Kobe has an ability to compartmentalize, and things that would bother other people, he can shut out. That's a strength, but that ability is also how he get's trapped in one mode, almost to the exclusion of everything else.
Okay, I'm done with this thread.
A Quentin Richardson quote is not going to help your cause. he plays for the Knicks, remember.
I am talking basketball like i said you can find any game any player has played to back up your bad shot/play argument but i can guarantee no coach has that on their scouting sheet for Kobe. You've replaced Odom with Gasol for your best on the team argument i see
i honestly don't believe you watch the games just wait til its over and search for stats and game breakdowns on the netYep.
The team is looking good.
agreed.
ever since mitch kupchak got lamar odom some help in pau gasol, the fakers have been on a tear.
the euros (fakers have a gang of 'em now) are starting a revolt against tobe's leadership in the huddle. no jokes.
rony turiaf, sasha vujacic, vladimir radmanovic, pau gasol. you can see how much better they communicate when they are on the floor with lamar odom.
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That can be done when you have FOUR future Hall Of Famers. However, talent alone isn't enough to win a ring; especially not against a team as well coached and hungry as the Pistons were.
Lastly, Kobe tanked that shit. No one can change my mind on that. I know that dudes game, and he was not playing his game. Kobe was just pulling up for jumpers, even though Tayshaun's length was making those shots difficult to hit. Kirilenko is another player whose length poses problems for Kobe, but he always throws a variety of moves at Kirilenko, 'cause pull-up jumpers won't work. He DID not do that on Prince. Sorry, buddy...
You're just overly-biased and can't see past your dislike for Kobe.
then you must be hallucinating, because i've never said that.
for the record (again), i don't like lamar odom or pau gasol. but fact is fact. those 2 players make the TEAM go.
end of story, case closed. don't be reading shit into something that's not there, or try to put words in my post.
You mean as soon as they got DJ Mbenga to be the back up center instead of Chris Mihm. Homie looked hungry last night.
Oh, and the Italian bred Bryant had an ok night as well. They still would have won without his 49, 4 and 10.
Oh, and the Italian bred Bryant had an ok night as well. They still would have won without his 49, 4 and 10.
actually, it's your strange bias for tobe that has blinded you to reality.
tobe's penchant for shooting has been a CAREER LONG curse for the fakers, not a phenomenon that was limited to the 2004 post season.
go here and read some of the very first threads in the blog:
lakersfiction.blogspot.com
Yeah, MBenga did look impressive. He grabbed some good rebounds for us. At on point during the 3rd qt, I did think kobe was taking too many 3's. But once Odom picked up his 5th (he should have passed the ball and not committed that dumb foul), Kobe got it going with his assists. Sasha knocked down some big shots, and so did Fischer and Vlad. Luke has looked the best he looked all season. The entire team looked good. Odom just needs to stay away from those fouls and be more patient.
now you got it.
after all, we are still talking about the denver nuggets. as you alluded to in the other thread last night during the game, them dudes ain't playing for coach karl.
they're laying down.
reggie miller was talking about that at half and also again at the start of Q3. he suspected that tobe had "fallen in love" with the jumper.
when tobe stopped chucking in Q3, it gave the rest of the fakers a chance to get touches and work like a team again. it let them run the O and get comfortable. look what happened.
some of the posters here might not remember that the TEAM game had the fakers up by 19 at the end of Q3 in G1. with tobe chucking, the fakers were only up by 10 at the end of Q3 in G2.
Ok, i finally bit the bullet and went to this site. And i have to ask, do you go to every Laker/Kobe related site and post facts that prove people wrong about their perception of Kobe? I'm reading one blog and I immediately knew it was you who wrote it, and then i see the name "Barnarc". I just laughed
But serously, whats the deal. Do you do this for any other player in the NBA, or just Kobe?
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/qRikrksH8es&hl=en[/FLASH]
Watch this, notice how the team was loosing until he took over.
That was the team then.
Now he doesn't have to clown like this, but he still can.
Anyway, I gives a fuck what he does as long as my TEAM wins.
Watch this, notice how the team was loosing until he took over.
That was the team then.
Now he doesn't have to clown like this, but he still can.
Anyway, I gives a fuck what he does as long as my TEAM wins.
Ok, i finally bit the bullet and went to this site. And i have to ask, do you go to every Laker/Kobe related site and post facts that prove people wrong about their perception of Kobe? I'm reading one blog and I immediately knew it was you who wrote it, and then i see the name "Barnarc". I just laughed
did you have blinders on when you went to that blog?
that blog discusses tobe, shaquille o'neal, lebron james, dwyane wade, tracy mcgrady, carmelo anthony and allen iverson too.
Kobe is the best NBA player period, damn he a beast 
Ok, i finally bit the bullet and went to this site. And i have to ask, do you go to every Laker/Kobe related site and post facts that prove people wrong about their perception of Kobe? I'm reading one blog and I immediately knew it was you who wrote it, and then i see the name "Barnarc". I just laughed
Barnac is too much!!!
On the real Barney, click the link in my sig for how a real hate site operates. You don't even have any funny Kobe pictures or nothing.
it's not a hate site, just a clear, unbiased presentation of historical fact.
feel free to photoshop some pics and i'll consider posting 'em.
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