Knicks Fans: ESPN first Take Max Kellerman v. Steve Stoute UPDATE: its GETS worse they tried to kick out Spike!

I don't think spike is overreacting at all.
Dude is the probably the most known fan in the nba possibly of all American sports.
Hes been going to games for what almost 30 years.
Through all the bullshit, hes still there.
You could have done it in a more respectful way.
Typical knicks
 
I don’t know but Lee seems somewhat off. Perhaps senile. Fuck Dolan and the knicks but still...Lee seems off
 
I don't think spike is overreacting at all.
Dude is the probably the most known fan in the nba possibly of all American sports.
Hes been going to games for what almost 30 years.
Through all the bullshit, hes still there.
You could have done it in a more respectful way.
Typical knicks

Boom

I dont see how anyone without a specific agenda is hating on spike here

Much like anyone who got mad at harden for responding to giannis repeated personal jabs that were made on NATIONAL television

Why didn't the secretary just say

Mr. Lee? Unfortunately policy changed this is the last time we cam allow thru this specific entrance

Just like the did a damn MONTH ago when he exited using the ramp

Also other so called VIPs were in the same elevator used the same entrance

Ummmm....

Why weren't THEY asked to leave?

This is some indefensible knicks garbage
 
They could have easily pulled him aside, hey they don't want VIPs to come this way anymore. Go ahead today but you're going to have to use the other entrance from now on.

But they really owed him a phone call after 20+ years and who he is to the team. Not like they didn't know he was coming to the game.
 
They could have easily pulled him aside, hey they don't want VIPs to come this way anymore. Go ahead today but you're going to have to use the other entrance from now on.

But they really owed him a phone call after 20+ years and who he is to the team. Not like they didn't know he was coming to the game.

According to spike

He was a day late on his ticket payment

Recently

And the had someone call him personally about it being late
 
I don't think spike is overreacting at all.
Dude is the probably the most known fan in the nba possibly of all American sports.
Hes been going to games for what almost 30 years.
Through all the bullshit, hes still there.
You could have done it in a more respectful way.
Typical knicks
Spike Lee is basically the mascot for the Knicks and is a part of their brand. When you think of the Knicks you also picture Spike Lee,

He basically is an employee and should correct that issue and making him one.
 
the rumor mill is saying...

Some big athletes agents and fellow owners do NOT like the optics of dolan not only sending security to physically approach black celebrities

But what he did to the 2 WHITE fans he had escorted out

And what the garden has been doing to local media freezing them out

And last but definitely not least

The FEAR people are going to suddenly conveniently remember the massive sexual harassment suit from years back during the Isiah Marbury run on some R. Kelly sh*t

This is Spike playing the long game, cause he KNOW something big is brewing
 
Rebranding the Newyork Knicks,without a coach and players first and kicking the Knicks # 1 fan who people take more interest in his on court battles than the actual team the Knicks are playing against.

They could of kept this rebranding bullshit behind the scenes and Steve Stoute needs to just shut up and keep that board room bullshit in the room
 
Charles Oakley to NBA: 'You can't keep closing your eyes' to the Knicks and James Dolan drama
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In the wake of another public confrontation between New York Knicks ownership and a personality closely associated with the team, former Knicks enforcer Charles Oakley says the NBA should step in to fix the issue.
"It's got to be stopped in some kind of way," Oakley told The Associated Press in a phone interview Tuesday night. "The NBA has got to take a look at this. You can't keep closing your eyes to this. This is like, turn your head if you see someone beat somebody up and you just keep walking."
Longtime Knicks fan Spike Lee told ESPN on Tuesday that he wouldn't attend another home game this season following a confrontation with security Monday over which entrance he could use at Madison Square Garden.
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"It just keeps happening in New York," Oakley said. "People are not going to come here because it's the same thing over and over and over. They got a new president, and all everyone is talking about what happened between Spike Lee and the Garden."
The incident occurred on the first night on the job for Leon Rose, the longtime player agent who was hired Monday as team president.
Oakley also addressed Lee's altercation with ESPN's Golic and Wingo on Wednesday, saying Knicks owner James Dolan is the consistent problem.
"What is this man's problem about control? He's so much a control freak. And he's hurting the whole NBA," Oakley said. "If I'm an owner in the NBA, this guy headlines every other month, every other week, with something that don't have nothing to do with winning. It's got to do with individuals, people's life. We shouldn't be going through this."
Oakley, 57, had a spat with the Knicks in 2017, when he was arrested after an altercation with security officials. Oakley sued Dolan and Madison Square Garden, but the case was dismissed last month.
MSG called for "peace between us" when a federal judge dismissed Oakley's claim, though Oakley said he will appeal.
"There should have been peace anyway," Oakley told the AP. "I played there 10 years. Show me some respect. They keep disrespecting me. I feel sorry for the people who stuff keeps happening to. It's just not right."
Judge Richard J. Sullivan ruled last month in U.S. District Court in Manhattan that the case "had the feel of a public relations campaign" and Oakley hadn't alleged a plausible legal claim under federal pleading standards.
Oakley had alleged assault, battery and false imprisonment, along with defamation after Dolan and the Knicks implied he had a problem with alcohol. Oakley was sitting near Dolan at a game on Feb. 8, 2017, when Oakley was approached by security soon after arriving and began to scuffle with them before he was removed from his seat and arrested.
"I didn't do nothing," Oakley said. "I got drug out and talked about like I was a person laying in the street."
The Knicks' latest case happened Monday night when a video circulated online during New York's 125-123 victory over the Houston Rockets, showing Lee getting frustrated and yelling at Garden security outside an elevator, leading to confusion that he may have been thrown out of the building. However, a Knicks spokesman said that was untrue and that it was simply an issue of Lee using the wrong entrance.

Lee said he has been using the employee entrance on 33rd Street for more than two decades as a season-ticket holder. The Knicks wanted him to use the entrance for celebrities, which is two blocks away.
Oakley said he wasn't surprised at Lee's treatment.
"It's a plantation over there. It's bad," Oakley told Golic and Wingo. "People don't want to talk about it. It's real bad over there.
"I mean, this man's been buying tickets for 28 years, over $10 million, and you curse him out if he comes in this door or that door?"
The Knicks are 19-42 and headed toward their seventh straight season out of the playoffs.
"I ain't ever seen a team lose make this much news," Oakley told the AP. "Maybe the Dallas Cowboys."
 
Charles Oakley’s dire James Dolan warning after Spike Lee fiasco
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Charles Oakley feels Spike Lee’s pain.
Three years after the Knicks fan favorite was dragged out of the Garden, the team is in a war with superfan Lee, who says he’s being “harassed” by James Dolan after a dispute with Garden security Monday night over being told to leave the building to use another entrance.
The Knicks and Lee are in a full-blown feud after a war of words Tuesday escalated tensions. None of this is surprising to Oakley, who was arrested after his altercation with Garden security.
“It’s a plantation over there. It’s bad,” Oakley, 56, said Wednesday on ESPN’s “Golic and Wingo.”
When Trey Wingo said Dolan is not going to sell the Knicks, Oakley referenced the NBA forcing Donald Sterling out of Clippers ownership for making racist comments. NBA commissioner Adam Silver banned Sterling for life.

“Donald Sterling didn’t sell his team either until the NBA came in and did something,” Oakley said. “If you’re a former player and what happened to me when they [dragged] me out of there for no reason, and we got the tape and I didn’t do nothing, it’s like lynching somebody back in the ‘40s and ‘50s. [Dolan] don’t care. I hate to put him in the category of Donald Trump, I think he’s Trump’s nephew. He don’t care.”
Before the firing of team president Steve Mills and subsequent hiring of Leon Rose, the Knicks’ top-five front-office lieutenants were all black: Mills, Scott Perry, Harold Ellis, Craig Robinson and Gerald Madkins.
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Oakley was asked if he thinks there’s enough against Dolan for the NBA to step in. Oakley referenced his own incident, the Lee fiasco and a teenage fan being kicked out in January for yelling, “Sell the team.”
“What’s gonna be next? They want somebody to get killed in there?” said Oakley, whose defamation suit against Dolan stemming from his February 2017 arrest was dismissed last month.
Oakley believes Dolan is a “control freak” who shouldn’t sit courtside if he doesn’t want to hear criticism.
“If you wanna stop people from saying stuff, don’t come to the games,” Oakley said. “You can’t be that sensitive.”


 
Ejected Knicks fans fed up with ‘incompetent’ James Dolan
By Marc Berman
March 5, 2020 | 10:46am | Updated




Ejected Knicks fans fed up with ‘incompetent’ James Dolan

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One of the fans who started a “Sell the team!” chant Wednesday late in the fourth quarter of the Knicks’ loss to Utah said he was indeed ejected with his cousins, but hopes the message ultimately forces owner James Dolan to put the club on the market.
Video showed four fans leaving their seats while chanting “Sell the team!” with security behind them. The Knicks said Wednesday night none of them were ejected or escorted out. However, one of the fans, John, who asked his last name not be used, said that is untrue and were told they violated the Garden’s code of conduct.
“My cousins and I decided to start a ‘sell the team’ chant after another losing night in the Garden,” John said in a message. “We were immediately escorted out of our seats by eight-plus security guards and were interrogated for 15 minutes.
“Which led us to [being] fully escorted out because we violated ‘the Madison Square Garden code of conduct.’ The exit they took us out of was the same exit Spike Lee was talking about earlier this week.”
Enlarge ImageKnicks fan, John, posted this photo of him and his friends after they say they were escorted out of MSG.Twitter
Told the Garden denied they were ejected, John, who is 22, responded, “They forced us to leave.”
“We are fed up and frustrated with the piss-poor product on the court and the incompetence of [Dolan,]” John added.
One of the code of conduct stipulations states: “Guests shall be respectful of others around them.” John said the motivation to start chanting was so Dolan would take their pleas to heart, but knows it’s a long shot.
“We are proud to say we started that chant,” he said. “They just kept telling us we broke code of conduct and are not welcome back to our seats. We had to wait for a supervisor to see what his verdict was and he agreed with the usher/security guards that we had to leave and he was the one who escorted us out.”

Dolan has said repeatedly he won’t sell. The last time the fans bellowed the chant, on Jan. 29, The Post reported a teenaged fan was escorted by security from his seat and detained in a room for questioning.
“We don’t think chanting ‘sell the team’ will work, but we need to let him have a piece of our minds,” John said. “Dolan is the type of guy who will hold on to the Knicks just because he can. It is incredibly important he does sell because nothing will really change around the Knicks until someone else is in charge.”
 
Former Knick Emmanuel Mudiay raising his game with Jazz
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Former Knick Emmanuel Mudiay always said hello to Spike Lee whenever he saw him in the hallways or on the Garden court. He always knew when Lee was in attendance.
Like everyone else, the Jazz point guard was stunned the Knicks superfan is feuding with owner James Dolan and couldn’t help smile when asked about it.
Upon his first return to the Garden on Wednesday after being a Knick for a season-and-a-half, Mudiay told The Post, “I don’t know too much about it, but knowing Spike, I think he’s a great guy. I think the problem will get resolved hopefully. I know he’s a diehard Knicks fan. I hope it works out for both sides.’’
Lee and Dolan are fighting over which entrance he’s allowed into at the Garden. Lee, who only attended two games during this trying season, has been permanently banned from entering the employee/media entrance. Lee has responded by saying he won’t go to another game this season.
Mudiay, who scored just two points in Wednesday’s 112-104 Jazz victory, is in a quieter place now in Utah. The Knicks never made an offer to him when he became a free agent, even though he started most of last season.
Enlarge ImageEmmanuel Mudiay goes up for a layup during the Knicks’ 112-104 loss to the Jazz.Corey Sipkin
Knicks GM Scott Perry was intent on signing Elfrid Payton, and Mudiay signed for the minimum to be Mike Conley’s backup with the Jazz.
Mudiay scored 20 points on 8-of-12 shooting when the Knicks visited Utah on Jan. 8. He looks meaner and leaner.
“The strength and conditioning staff is really good here,’’ Mudiay said. “And it’s also the food we eat. That’s not a shot at the Knicks. I know they got a new chef this season.’’
When the Knicks visited Utah, the former Denver lottery pick also cited his mental game having improved under Jazz coach Quin Snyder.
“My IQ has improved,” Mudiay said. “I thought I was a pretty OK, smart player until I came here. When I came here, [Snyder] took me to another level.”

Asked if he has any regrets no longer being a Knick, Mudiay said, “I got to see a million familiar faces. It felt good. But I’m happy here.’’
 
Knicks Fan Alleges He Was ‘Interrogated’ After Chanting ‘Sell the Team’
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Seriously, sell the team
There’s never a bad time to chant “sell the team” at Madison Square Garden but after all that’s gone on with the Knicks this week, there’s never been a better time to do it. Just don’t do it within earshot of arena security.
The Knicks lost again last night (112–104 against the Jazz) and a few fans decided to chant owner James Dolan’s three least favorite words as they exited Madison Square Garden late in the fourth quarter. According to the New York Daily News, they were already on their way to the door when they started the chant, but Garden security followed behind the group to make sure they didn’t stick around.

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One of the fans, who told the Daily News to refer to him by the extremely WFAN-caller-esque name “John from Long Island,” said he and his buddies were “interrogated” by MSG security for 15 minutes and threatened with arrest.
John posted a video on Twitter showing his group on the Garden concourse, surrounded by several security guards and one uniformed police officer.
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The Knicks’ official stance is that no one was “ejected or escorted” for chanting “sell the team.”
“A source said security, under the code of conduct policy, talked to the fans about the chants,” the New York Post’s Marc Berman reported.

This incident is vastly different from when a much louder “sell the team” chant broke out at MSG in late January. On that night, a teenage fan sitting near Dolan joined in on the chant and Dolan responded by pointing the kid out to arena security. He had his student ID taken and was detained for 15 minutes.
Dolan may not have been personally involved in this case and we don’t know what other sort of mischief a group of 20-something bros could have caused earlier in the night, but MSG security must know what to do when they hear those three words.
 
IMO Spike needs to leave the Knicks and go to Brooklyn. He's as much a fixture at the garden as the sign outside. I can't begin to fathom Dolan's thinking, Spike deserved better treatment. Using the same entrance for 28 years, now this... I too used to be a Knick fan, now I'm a basketball fan. I have no favorite team. I have favorite players but I now have no allegiance to any team.

Bet if Spike leaves many others will follow. What reason does Spike and the fans really have for staying? Knick fans haven't had ANYTHING to cheer about since the days of Ewing.
 

'Sell the team!': Knicks draw smallest crowd in 13 years amid Spike Lee feud

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Wayne Ellington of the New York Knicks dribbles during Wednesday’s game against the Utah Jazz at Madison Square Garden. Photograph: Michael Owens/Getty Images

Spike Lee isn’t the only fan who has decided to no-show Knicks games.
The Knicks drew their smallest home crowd in nearly 13 and a half years Wednesday night, falling more than 3,200 below capacity in a 112-104 loss to the Utah Jazz.
The announced crowd was just 16,588, with noticeable patches of empty seats throughout an arena that lists 19,812 as its capacity for NBA games.
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That means the arena was filled to about 84% capacity – leaving one in every six seats unsold.
Blame poor play, anger over Lee’s altercation or coronavirus concerns, but fans hadn’t stayed away from Madison Square Garden in such large numbers since 13 December 2006 – more than 500 regular-season games ago – when the Knicks drew 15,895 for a victory over Atlanta early in Isiah Thomas’ first season as coach.

What was once one of the toughest tickets in town is no longer the case as the Knicks (19-43) finish out their seventh straight year out of the playoffs. Attendance is on track to drop for the fourth straight season.
The game against the Jazz, who rank 28th in road attendance, came just two nights after one of the Knicks’ best performances of the season – a 125-123 victory over Houston on the day they hired longtime agent Leon Rose as their team president.
The win quickly became overshadowed by the fallout from Lee’s clash with security guards who blocked him from using the employee entrance to reach his courtside seats.
The Oscar-winning writer-director, a ticket holder for nearly three decades, told ESPN the following day he wouldn’t attend any more Knicks home games this season, accusing Madison Square Garden executive chairman James Dolan of harassing him.
That just increased anger fans already have toward the owner. Chants of “Sell the team! Sell the team!” have broken out during games at the Garden this season, including a minor one Wednesday night.
Dolan, however, said earlier this season while searching for a replacement after firing Steve Mills as president he wasn’t planning to sell.
The Knicks are expecting close to a sellout Friday night when they host Oklahoma City. That’s part of a run of nine games in nine nights at Madison Square Garden – five Knicks and four Rangers – during a congested part of the schedule before both teams go on the road, with the arena hosting the Big East tournament next week and the NCAA’s East Regional the last weekend of March.
 

Spike Lee’s Feud With the Knicks, Explained
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Something you will not see again for a while. Photo: James Devaney/Getty Images
There are many reasons why a fan of the New York Knicks might become embroiled in a public feud with the notoriously mismanaged franchise. The team trading away its best young player to save money under the salary cap. Or sources inside Madison Square Garden whispering for months about the supposedly imminent arrival of Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, neither of whom would ultimately sign with the team. (Instead both stars, the NBA’s most archetypal millennials, decided to team up at a hip co-working space on Atlantic Avenue.) For other fans, the final straw was the Knicks choosing to use their newfound financial flexibility to sign 17 power forwards, none of whom know how to pass the ball.
All would be valid reasons for denouncing the Knicks. But these are not the reasons that Spike Lee, the world’s most famous Knicks fan, has announced his uncoupling from the team. On one level, the feud has to do with Lee’s entering and exiting privileges at Madison Square Garden, which like tax fraud and being annoyed by paparazzi, seems the kind of trouble that you can only get into if you are a wealthy celebrity. But dig deeper, and this becomes a story about loyalty, a story about respect, a story about the proper meaning of a handshake. Let me explain.
Though Lee has occasionally called out Knicks management in the past over the franchise’s treatment of Charles Oakley and Carmelo Anthony, this week’s dispute involves the team’s treatment of the director himself. The inciting incident occurred in the run-up to a Knicks home game on Monday night, when a video emerged of Lee being refused entry to his traditional courtside seat at the Garden by arena security. In the video, Lee can be heard exclaiming “Nobody told me!” and comparing himself to Oakley, a team legend whose arrest at a 2017 Knicks game marked the previous low-water mark between the club and its supporters.




As “Page Six” reported, the altercation arose from a dispute over which entrance the Oscar-winning filmmaker was using to get into the arena. Lee was coming in through the employee and media entrance on 33rd Street; the team wanted him to use the VIP entrance on 31st Street. Lee eventually got seated and was able to enjoy the game, and was later seen speaking to owner James Dolan at halftime. You might think that this was a minor issue that could be easily sorted out by responsible adults. You forgot that one side in this disagreement is the New York Knicks, and the other side is Spike Lee.

After news of the altercation began circling online, both parties made their case to the media. On Monday night, team sources told “Page Six” that, despite Lee’s claim in the video, the director had previously been told to stop using the employee entrance. Then, on Tuesday morning, Lee went on ESPN’s First Take, decked out in Knicks gear, to give his side of the story:



According to Lee, he’d already scanned his ticket at the employee entrance when a security guard surprised him as he stepped off an elevator and ordered him to leave the arena and reenter through the VIP entrance. Lee refused. As he explained on ESPN, “Once you leave a sporting arena, you can’t come back in. I’m not falling for the okay-doke.” Lee also reiterated that he had been using the employee entrance for 28 years — including just the week before, at a performance of To Kill a Mockingbird — and that he’d received no word from the team that he would need to stop using it.

The BlacKkKlansman director also announced that his spat with the team was merely a separation, not a divorce. “I’m coming back next year, but I’m done for the season,” he told ESPN. Lee had stuck with the team through a 45-year championship drought and seven straight losing seasons, and seemed mystified by his treatment. He intimated that shadowy forces were afoot: “I’m being harassed by James Dolan and I don’t know why.”



With de-escalation as foreign a concept to the Knicks as financial prudence or humility, the team shot back at Lee with a public statement on Twitter, calling his story “laughable,” and accusing the director of creating a “false controversy to perpetuate drama.” The statement concluded by asserting that Lee had agreed to no longer use the employee entrance, and in fact, had shaken Dolan’s hand to confirm the new arrangement. To underline the point even further, the team also attached to the tweet a grainy photograph of Lee and Dolan shaking hands at halftime.




Shortly afterward, in an interview with the New York Times’ Sopan Deb, Lee called the Knicks’ statement “an unmitigated bold-faced lie,” challenging the team to produce evidence that he had been informed of a change in policy. He also initially disputed that he’d shaken Dolan’s hand, but relented when informed of the photograph. However, in a further text conversation with Deb, Lee called the photo “a setup.”



Lee’s media tour was not through. Before the day was up, he’d also called into the YES Network’s Michael Kay Show to make his case before the people of New York once more. “No one called me” about any change in the entrance policy, he said. “They had my number, they had my email.” He also reiterated a question he’d raised throughout the day: If the entrance he was using was off-limits, why was there someone there taking tickets?



Ultimately, that was just one of the many mysteries left unsolved in the first 24 hours of the feud. One, why would the Knicks usher in the reign of new president Leon Rose, a former agent who was supposed to put the team back in the “relationship business” again, by publicly disrespecting their most prominent celebrity cheerleader? Two, are the Knicks the only institution in the world that makes the Trump White House look mild-mannered and conciliatory? And, finally, what is so good about the employee entrance at the Madison Square Garden that Spike Lee has been using it continuously for nearly three decades? The world eagerly awaits the answers.
 








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Knicks assistant Mike Woodson showers James Dolan with love after taking Indiana job

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Mark this one down in the “Who saw this coming” category. Mike Woodson was hired to be the new head coach of the Indiana Hoosiers, taking over a program that has been underachieving for years. Born and raised in Indianapolis, Woodson attended and played at Indiana before being selected by the New York Knicks in the first round of the 1980 draft. That’s not the part nobody saw coming, although it was a bit surprising. What was somewhat unpredictable, was all the praise Woodson gave to Knicks owner James Dolan upon his exit.




In an article posted by the New York Post, Woodson couldn’t have spoken better of Dolan in his introductory press conference after being introduced at Indiana.


“I want to thank my Knick family for allowing me to get out of my contract and come home,” Woodson said Monday morning during his introductory press conference. “Jim Dolan gets a bad rap in New York. But he was a great owner for me. He allowed me to be head coach and he allowed me to come back to be an assistant…. Everyone in that Knicks organization is first class.” – Mike Woodson
Dolan has long been mocked and ridiculed by almost everyone in the media with many calling for him to sell the Knicks. The Charles Oakley incident at Madison Square Garden really triggered many and bumped up the pressure on Dolan. He has stood firm in his ownership of the team though.
Woodson’s praise of Dolan comes as one of the few to do so in recent memory.

His hire at Indiana was a surprise to some, as Woodson has never coached at the college level in any capacity, having spent his entire coaching career in the NBA.
He takes over an Indiana program he knows well that is in desperate need of a facelift and a coach who can produce results and consistency.
 
Dolan is the worst kind of owner imaginable, he don't know shit, won't take suggestions and has too much ego to step aside. Your top free agents won't go there an now the fans along with Spike have finally starting to rebel.
 
Dolan is the worst kind of owner imaginable, he don't know shit, won't take suggestions and has too much ego to step aside. Your top free agents won't go there an now the fans along with Spike have finally starting to rebel.
you sound like a NY media soundbite..none of this is accurate
 
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