Joel Osteen is getting the treatment for not helping Harvey Survivors blocking niggas left & right

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What next haters? Lakewood Church stood up again despite what people and fake news are saying. Take notes from some real givers who are extremely blessed, you could learn something. Respect to @lakewoodchurch @joelosteen Ministries and the entire team. You are truly the meaning of loving people.

 
I've heard this is required by some churches if you are a member and are supposedly tithing. It came to my attention when someone told me a few years back that some older lady had her church membership revoked over it. I don't recall the details.

The problem I have with it, is that under the new testament believers are told to give as they are led to give, there isn't a mandatory tithe. So any church teaching that it is, is suspect to me.

My mom used to tithe, when she fell out with the pastor that took over my grandfather's church, she saved the money, and would send it to people or organizations needing disaster relief, or if she saw a hardship story on the news or in the paper.
there was a church in ohio called the word church i've heard often does that.
 
Not surprised! That's why i don't mess with churches and organized religion. IMO, instead of building and having these mega churches, how about building and having mega shelters.
COSIGN! Look in any hood and the best looking realestate is these mega churches those places could be mega shelters.
 
I've been trying to tell people that man doesn't give a fuck and is all about his money.
His wife had that incident on a plane a few years back. Hardly, Christian-like to me.
And yet people (even my mom) continue to praise this man.
Religion is the biggest hustle out there.
 
Don't post subliminal's. I haven't defended him once. Even in that thread I didn't defend him.
who the fuck are you that I would have to sub? lol
He called trump a good man and you made excuses for it. As much as you dick rode Hilary during the election season, you would have criticized others for doing that.
 
I don't know. So this man is supposed to open his church with no staff, no security, no food and bed. Just open it up and say "Come in"?

Nah

It's takes MANPOWER to have a large scale sheltering operation. Lakewood's people aren't exempt from the weather, they have to brave the flood waters to get there too.

At this point, they're STILL not designated as a FEMA official shelter, so that means no beds, no medical staff.

People need to stop being so quick to demonize successful people. I see all reasoning was blinded by having a shot at shitting on Joel Osteen.
 
I don't know. So this man is supposed to open his church with no staff, no security, no food and bed. Just open it up and say "Come in"?

Nah

It's takes MANPOWER to have a large scale sheltering operation. Lakewood's people aren't exempt from the weather, they have to brave the flood waters to get there too.

At this point, they're STILL not designated as a FEMA official shelter, so that means no beds, no medical staff.

People need to stop being so quick to demonize successful people. I see all reasoning was blinded by having a shot at shitting on Joel Osteen.

but..what would little white Jesus have done? brah
 
I don't know. So this man is supposed to open his church with no staff, no security, no food and bed. Just open it up and say "Come in"?

Nah

It's takes MANPOWER to have a large scale sheltering operation. Lakewood's people aren't exempt from the weather, they have to brave the flood waters to get there too.

At this point, they're STILL not designated as a FEMA official shelter, so that means no beds, no medical staff.

People need to stop being so quick to demonize successful people. I see all reasoning was blinded by having a shot at shitting on Joel Osteen.

It takes 4 days to finally open up the church with all the manpower, money and resources he has?

FOH.

Even high schools and much smaller churches opened their doors. They did so without having to be called out first.
 
bruh
I don't know. So this man is supposed to open his church with no staff, no security, no food and bed. Just open it up and say "Come in"?

Nah

It's takes MANPOWER to have a large scale sheltering operation. Lakewood's people aren't exempt from the weather, they have to brave the flood waters to get there too.

At this point, they're STILL not designated as a FEMA official shelter, so that means no beds, no medical staff.

People need to stop being so quick to demonize successful people. I see all reasoning was blinded by having a shot at shitting on Joel Osteen.
bruh, the city would have provided security like they are at the other large shelters out here
FOH
 
I don't know. So this man is supposed to open his church with no staff, no security, no food and bed. Just open it up and say "Come in"?

Nah

It's takes MANPOWER to have a large scale sheltering operation. Lakewood's people aren't exempt from the weather, they have to brave the flood waters to get there too.

At this point, they're STILL not designated as a FEMA official shelter, so that means no beds, no medical staff.

People need to stop being so quick to demonize successful people. I see all reasoning was blinded by having a shot at shitting on Joel Osteen.

Nawl, nigga. Fuck that shit you talkin' about.
 
I don't know. So this man is supposed to open his church with no staff, no security, no food and bed. Just open it up and say "Come in"?

Nah

It's takes MANPOWER to have a large scale sheltering operation. Lakewood's people aren't exempt from the weather, they have to brave the flood waters to get there too.

At this point, they're STILL not designated as a FEMA official shelter, so that means no beds, no medical staff.

People need to stop being so quick to demonize successful people. I see all reasoning was blinded by having a shot at shitting on Joel Osteen.

I'm just going to assume you're playing the contrarian.....

Fuck that shit son.

The ethos of church is refuge, sacturary, and shelter.

The fact that he closed his doors in a time of need is seen as an act of betrayal of that ethos.

People aren't going to forget that or let him forget that.

FEMA shelter? Fam, I live down here. First Responders and all types of govt agencies are looking for any dry piece of real estate to setup shop. Lakewood Church would have been perfect.

Shitting on Joel? Did you read the twitters twits that were posted? You're not open...wait, you will open but ONLY after everyone else is full?
He earned his verbal asswhopping.

Manpower? The whole city is short staffed yet people personally went out of their way to help their neighbor. To....love thy neighbor.

All Joel had to say is, "We open and need volunteers" and half the city would have set up shop in Greenway Plaza.

Joel...Joel fucked up on this one fam. You playing Devil Advocate on his behalf ain't helping.

*two cents*
 
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It takes 4 days to finally open up the church with all the manpower, money and resources he has?

FOH.

Even high schools and much smaller churches opened their doors. They did so without having to be called out first.

How would they get there? They don't live in the church, fam.
 
I'm just going to assume you're playing the contrarian.....

Fuck that shit son.

The ethos of church is refuge, sacturary, and shelter.

The fact that he closed his doors in a time of need is seen as an act of betrayal of that ethos.

People aren't going to forget that or let him forget that.

FEMA shelter? Fam, I live down here. First Responders and all types of govt agencies are looking for any dry piece of real estate to setup shop. Lakewood Church would have been perfect.

Shitting on Joel? Did you read the twitters twits that were posted? You're not open...wait you will open but ONLY after everyone else is full?
He earned his verbal asswhopping.

Manpower? The whole city is short staffed yet people personally went out of their way to help their neighbor. To....love the neighbor.

All Joel had to say is, "We open and need volunteers" and half the city would have set up shop in Greenway Plaza.

Joel...Joel fucked up on this one fam. You playing Devil Advocate on his behalf ain't helping.

*two cents*


Playing devil's advocate because I recognize it might be a little difficult to get a staff of a MEGA church on site hours after a major disaster?

Okay. As I said, you niggas are a little too eager instead of thinking first.
 
I woulda let/told them people to break in. That place is too big and completely cleared of the flood level. Its a fuckin state of emergency mofos oughta be using whatever building is clear of the flood zone and safe and this fool jumbling the situation up with all this fuckery.
 
Playing devil's advocate because I recognize it might be a little difficult to get a staff of a MEGA church on site hours after a major disaster?

Okay. As I said, you niggas are a little too eager instead of thinking first.



WHAT? Nigga please!

Problem with that chain of thought is that is not what he said.

All he had to said was..."We don't have the staff to meet the demand" and half the fucking city would have volunteered and about eight city/state/national agencies would have blown up his phone to use the place as a headquarters. He has that much pull.

He didn't say that now did he. Because IF he did THAT would have happen. All the shelters in the city are at capacity we are putting people ANYWHERE.

Now what he did say was this...

He said they were flooded...the sub basements were flooded. The sacturary- were you could house the evacuated- was dry and is elevated.

He then said 'well after everyone else is at capacity, THEN we'll open our doors' which goes against the ethos of what a church is SUPPOSE to be. They are suppose to be first.

He decided...to pray on it and call it a day.

Everyone else in the city FOUND A WAY TO HELP OUT.


Yet the church's doors are closed.

He not only fucked up but betrayed what the church is: SHELTER FROM THE STORM.

People in Houston ain't going forget that.

You on the wrong side of this one pimp.

*two cents*
 
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