Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode

[Complex]

A lot of new/recent podcasts are looking for instant gratification and that's just not the way podcasting works. They assume that their following from other platforms will carry over and turn into money, but it's literally building from scratch and playing to another platform's algorithm. Sure having some notoriety will give you an initial leg up but fanbases in the podcast spaces are built on consistency and longevity. Most podcasts don't start seeing real money until around episode 500-600 and beyond. A lot of these people don't even make it to episode 50. And yea overhead counts; if you don't own the space you're paying for studio rental time, you're paying videographers or the studio to film, likely an audio engineer to make sure the audio is good and recording that. Then you're paying editors; cause you need a video edit and an audio edit, more angles mean longer edits. Not only does the main show need to be edited, it has to be clipped up into social media bites. There also needs to be a budget for ad spend to get clips in front of unreached audiences.

So if you're doing this for money and you're starting with no income, it's a money pit until it starts turning a profit, which again could take hundreds of episodes before it makes something helpful. But if you do the shit for the love of doing it, you're not stressing most of that, you'll film wherever's free and not really worry about how shit looks. People tune in cause you're having fun and over time they grow with you and the podcast and it'll snowball organically. A lot of people won't stick it out that long.

These people have millions of followers and can't get them to stream their music. It seems to only translate to athletes and that's mostly based around these gambling companies trying to get everyone addicted.

I remember Joe and Combat Jack both mentioned consistency being key.

I basically have a routine, because I can count on Joe's pod two times a week.

A bunch of these other pods do that season shit which makes no sense. This isn't a TV show.

They go on break for a week, a couple of weeks, a month. That's how I wonder how Mel is going to do. She's half assing it. You might get a pod this week, you might not. That's one problem with interview pods.

And even if you want outside investors they're going to want blah blah episodes a week. If you've never done it before....

 

[BlackGoku]

These people have millions of followers and can't get them to stream their music. It seems to only translate to athletes and that's mostly based around these gambling companies trying to get everyone addicted.

I remember Joe and Combat Jack both mentioned consistency being key.

I basically have a routine, because I can count on Joe's pod two times a week.

A bunch of these other pods do that season shit which makes no sense. This isn't a TV show.

They go on break for a week, a couple of weeks, a month. That's how I wonder how Mel is going to do. She's half assing it. You might get a pod this week, you might not. That's one problem with interview pods.

And even if you want outside investors they're going to want blah blah episodes a week. If you've never done it before....

One thing I've noticed from following a few of these sports pods is that they will throw up a reaction or a quick vid reacting to something happening. They dont always have to do a formal pod just to get content. It's one thing to do it on instagram or tik tok, but you can also put up something quick, 5-10 mins on yt.

 

[Complex]

One thing I've noticed from following a few of these sports pods is that they will throw up a reaction or a quick vid reacting to something happening. They dont always have to do a formal pod just to get content. It's one thing to do it on instagram or tik tok, but you can also put up something quick, 5-10 mins on yt.

Gil is good at going live. He'll just have him and Josiah.

 

[Complex]

Wayno talks about the inconsistency and some of the same stuff Joe did

 

[playahaitian]

Savon The Don, White Thought, Rem, Steph (Need To Know Podcast) and Screen Man (Alex)​

 

[playahaitian]

I wonder if moving to Patreon had a NEGATIVE effect?

And wtf ever happened with the girl co host?

 

[ViCiouS]

And wtf ever happened with the girl co host?

I heard that supposedly
while on his most recent vist to NJ-
@Dr. Truth alledgedly abducted the young lady

#prayers4regina

 

[DC_Dude]

 

[badman32]

These people have millions of followers and can't get them to stream their music. It seems to only translate to athletes and that's mostly based around these gambling companies trying to get everyone addicted.

I remember Joe and Combat Jack both mentioned consistency being key.

I basically have a routine, because I can count on Joe's pod two times a week.

A bunch of these other pods do that season shit which makes no sense. This isn't a TV show.

They go on break for a week, a couple of weeks, a month. That's how I wonder how Mel is going to do. She's half assing it. You might get a pod this week, you might not. That's one problem with interview pods.

And even if you want outside investors they're going to want blah blah episodes a week. If you've never done it before....

I'd be highly surprised if Mel's pod is able to reach 200+ episodes. As you stated, her current track record for consistency isn't great and once she runs out of big names to talk to about the same old topics, is her personality enough to retain viewers? I don't see it from my side, but then again I'm not her audience. Time will tell. With the JBP, I'm tuned in for the personalities, I don't really care what the topics are, just hearing these niggas banter is funny as shit most of the time, and informative with the addition of Marc; previously I felt like I knew more about the topics they were speaking on as they brought them up, but Marc brings up some topics that normally would've been looked over. And as much as people hate on Flip, Flip definitely has a lot of funny moments on the pod outside of the moments where he's out of touch with the topic or trying to force a joke that doesn't fly. He brings live/fun energy that's usually not present when he's not there. A lot of these podders can't go the distance, Joe's reaping the benefits of consistency, entertaining personalities, and clippable moments that cause present fans and new audiences to tune in to find out what's really going on.

 

[DC_Dude]

 

[Gemini]

Mona got into the zodding position, lol

 

[Gemini]

All of them sex offenders Spanish

 

[keone]

Are pods dying off due to not being able to generate revenue? Id imagine the overhead isn't much. Assuming you are hands on with preprod and post yourself to start.

For me, Need to know followed JBN topics to closely. I know all pods talk about the same topics but it felt worse with them. I didn't watch enough but maybe they shouldn't have discussed music to attempt to separate themselves from the JPB. Savon worked for HBO. Maybe they should have focused on TV/movies more to distinguish themselves more.

the issue is they want to see money asap and dont do the work
they will rent a studio when they can do it from home.
one of the reasons joe could do it for years cause they did it at parks house
when the money really starting coming he got the new spot

 

[keone]

I wonder if moving to Patreon had a NEGATIVE effect?

And wtf ever happened with the girl co host?

they also had creative difference and yes patreaon had something to do with iit
but this why joe is jealous of athletes cause they got all the bread and can just chill
with no worries doing podcasts

 

[playahaitian]

they also had creative difference and yes patreaon had something to do with iit
but this why joe is jealous of athletes cause they got all the bread and can just chill
with no worries doing podcasts

Damn thats unfortunate

the creative differences is really sad because they been working together for a long time talking in front of mics, working behind the scenes and playing media experts. yet it seems most of these people in this industry have absolutely terrible communication skills. And need some type of white intermediary to succeed.

Joe must be blind in one eye and deaf in one ear cause MOST of these athlete podcast fail quick too or never get real traction because there are TOO many. Plus they DO get in trouble all the time put they aint influential enough for the main to care. And he is correct most have seed money and just doing it for fun.

He shouldn't be jealous, he has the same money and doesn't really care either. Its because he decided to take that sweet corporate money is why he has to watch his dam mouth more now. But he had reached a comfortable space where he was thriving and was pretty much free to do and say what he pleased.

But once you in that NYT feature, Sunday talk shows and getting fan duel and draft kings checks?

 

[keone]

Damn thats unfortunate

the creative differences is really sad because they been working together for a long time talking in front of mics, working behind the scenes and playing media experts. yet it seems most of these people in this industry have absolutely terrible communication skills. And need some type of white intermediary to succeed.

Joe must be blind in one eye and deaf in one ear cause MOST of these athlete podcast fail quick too or never get real traction because there are TOO many. Plus they DO get in trouble all the time put they aint influential enough for the main to care. And he is correct most have seed money and just doing it for fun.

He shouldn't be jealous, he has the same money and doesn't really care either. Its because he decided to take that sweet corporate money is why he has to watch his dam mouth more now. But he had reached a comfortable space where he was thriving and was pretty much free to do and say what he pleased.

But once you in that NYT feature, Sunday talk shows and getting fan duel and draft kings checks?

not when he started he was broke lol
what he means is yes it might fail but they rich and bored
look at how many podcasts they have
shannon got two, all the smoke, pivot, im athlete list goes on

now look at hip hop podcasts

 

[playahaitian]

not when he started he was broke lol
what he means is yes it might fail but they rich and bored
look at how many podcasts they have
shannon got two, all the smoke, pivot, im athlete list goes on

now look at hip hop podcasts

JBP, Drink Champs, Joe Jada, Breakfast Club, Million Dollars, The Read, Questlove, the corny one shitzand gigs?... etc etc

I hear you but it aint that clear cut.

 

[ViCiouS]

JBP, Drink Champs, Joe Jada, Breakfast Club, Million Dollars, The Read, Questlove, the corny one shitzand gigs?... etc etc

I hear you but it aint that clear cut.

yes it is

 

[keone]

JBP, Drink Champs, Joe Jada, Breakfast Club, Million Dollars, The Read, Questlove, the corny one shitzand gigs?... etc etc

I hear you but it aint that clear cut.

the fk is shitzand lol?
breakfast club is radio iheart
dc was through black effect iheart
joe and jada is rocnation and they even said they was not making money like that. but they are rich and own multiple biz
million dollar is a good example but gillie had lil bit of bread and connections
questloves podcast was cancelled in may i believe but he has bread also

but my main point is these athletes can fund themselves till they get deals.
thats what joe was saying.

 

[playahaitian]

the fk is shitzand lol?
breakfast club is radio iheart
dc was through black effect iheart
joe and jada is rocnation and they even said they was not making money like that. but they are rich and own multiple biz
million dollar is a good example but gillie had lil bit of bread and connections
questloves podcast was cancelled in may i believe but he has bread also

but my main point is these athletes can fund themselves till they get deals.
thats what joe was saying.

Well dam.

Forget what I said then

 

[keone]

Well dam.

Forget what I said then

sas breaks it down in this short clip what joe was saying

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

the issue is they want to see money asap and dont do the work
they will rent a studio when they can do it from home.
one of the reasons joe could do it for years cause they did it at parks house
when the money really starting coming he got the new spot

Shit white boy should have or should be getting a bigger bag than the rest for using his crib

 

[JustChillin]

So is Queenzflip off the pod? Cause I’ll start listening again if he is

 

[Complex]

So is Queenzflip off the pod? Cause I’ll start listening again if he is

He's only on Wednesday's. I wonder if there's tension between him and Mona.

 

[Complex]

Shit white boy should have or should be getting a bigger bag than the rest for using his crib

Parks never had money complaints and he was also doing the editing until they had money to fund a staff.

I never thought Rory considered the cost of Parks when considering how much him and Mal were making.

 

[Complex]

they also had creative difference and yes patreaon had something to do with iit
but this why joe is jealous of athletes cause they got all the bread and can just chill
with no worries doing podcasts

Damn thats unfortunate

the creative differences is really sad because they been working together for a long time talking in front of mics, working behind the scenes and playing media experts. yet it seems most of these people in this industry have absolutely terrible communication skills. And need some type of white intermediary to succeed.

Joe must be blind in one eye and deaf in one ear cause MOST of these athlete podcast fail quick too or never get real traction because there are TOO many. Plus they DO get in trouble all the time put they aint influential enough for the main to care. And he is correct most have seed money and just doing it for fun.

He shouldn't be jealous, he has the same money and doesn't really care either. Its because he decided to take that sweet corporate money is why he has to watch his dam mouth more now. But he had reached a comfortable space where he was thriving and was pretty much free to do and say what he pleased.

But once you in that NYT feature, Sunday talk shows and getting fan duel and draft kings checks?

Jealous is a poor word choice. I doubt he's jealous at all. It's a different lane. He tried to get a pod with him and Gil. Who didn't want to go indie, so now his show got hijacked, name and all.

He's cool with Teague and Brandon.

He's tried to get them to use their names for independence. They can get a Fan Duel or Draft Kings on their own and don't need to go through someone else to take a cut. They don't seem to realize all you need is a microphone and some cameras. You don't need Colin Cowherd.

Hell, he had his own. I just realized Speedy got with another team during the offseason.

 

[HisFlyness]

Mona got into the zodding position, lol

That did seem like it was 2nd nature to her.

mmmmmmm

 

[keone]

Jealous is a poor word choice. I doubt he's jealous at all. It's a different lane. He tried to get a pod with him and Gil. Who didn't want to go indie, so now his show got hijacked, name and all.

He's cool with Teague and Brandon.

He's tried to get them to use their names for independence. They can get a Fan Duel or Draft Kings on their own and don't need to go through someone else to take a cut. They don't seem to realize all you need is a microphone and some cameras. You don't need Colin Cowherd.

Hell, he had his own. I just realized Speedy got with another team during the offseason.

he said it out of his own mouth
just recently he said it in the jim jones interview about di caprio that it is cheating
im not making it up com.

and he is right joe had to get it out the mud broke. and he did it.
when ur name is brady u can do what u want

 

[keone]

He's only on Wednesday's. I wonder if there's tension between him and Mona.

nah he is doing his own thing joe gave him grace
same pay and he can build his channel up
joe not giving him more advances lol

 

[keone]

Shit white boy should have or should be getting a bigger bag than the rest for using his crib

why u think he stayed when rory and mal left lol
parks getting more than anybody maybe besides marc

 

[Gemini]

 

[D24OHA]

Who the hell is cutting onions in this empty ass room with me?!