Republicans won Ohio by 8 points and Florida by nearly 4 points. And this is with historic record turnouts. Nothing about that screams swing states to me. Dems need to let Ohio and Florida go. Lost causes there.
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Republicans won Ohio by 8 points and Florida by nearly 4 points. And this is with historic record turnouts. Nothing about that screams swing states to me. Dems need to let Ohio and Florida go. Lost causes there.
The problem with a mitt Romney type of Republican is that there are no more large numbers of middle of the road Republicans left in this country......in the 80s and 90s there was quite a few but now They are not too many.
I still maintain there was election/ballot fuckery in Florida.
I'm not sure of that. I need to see a national election with a "moderate" type of Republican first before I conclude that the world is completely different now. On the right wing sites, they're saying they're done with Establishment RINOs but it's still early and they're salty about trump losing. That's what Cruz and Hawley are counting on. We'll see.
Yeah man. I feel like the Democrats need to construct a whole new map and just write Ohio and FL off.
Trump made big gains with Latinos across the board despite his rhetoric and actions. If the GOP goes back to having a more sane candidate and having a "Latino Night" at their convention like they did in 2000, I think those gains will offset the loss of some of the crazies that came out exclusively for Trump.
Like someone else said, if the Democrats don't deliver I think you will see the same type of apathy for the midterms that we saw for the 2016 general election. GOP has stopped actually trying to court the Black vote, their main goal is suppression and generating apathy by helping to spread the "both sides" and "don't vote" bullshit.
The problem with a mitt Romney type of Republican is that there are no more large numbers of middle of the road Republicans left in this country......in the 80s and 90s there was quite a few but now They are not too many.
Again I disagree with you on Florida.
Trump made big gains with Latinos across the board despite his rhetoric and actions. If the GOP goes back to having a more sane candidate and having a "Latino Night" at their convention like they did in 2000, I think those gains will offset the loss of some of the crazies that came out exclusively for Trump.
Like someone else said, if the Democrats don't deliver I think you will see the same type of apathy for the midterms that we saw for the 2016 general election. GOP has stopped actually trying to court the Black vote, their main goal is suppression and generating apathy by helping to spread the "both sides" and "don't vote" bullshit.
Someone has to stay in Biden's and the DNC's ears that they won control of everything on the back of the black vote and they need to deliver to their real base..... if they start chasing those ghost rural whites voters
These cac muthafuckas are retarded
Not a doubt in my mind that out of all the states where election fuckery was going on. Florida is at the top of the list.
Someone has to stay in Biden's and the DNC's ears that they won control of everything on the back of the black vote and they need to deliver to their real base..... if they start chasing those ghost rural whites voters
Rural white voters are the white whale for the Democrats. It makes no sense to pursue them and not mobilize your actual base. It is insanity...
This ninja had a "diet coke" button on his desk
The rural white voter population is Shrinking in size and Trump really screwed them over especially the ones who owned farms so the Democrats just step to them and say you could either work with us or You can have another Trump.
And They Would Reach For Another Trump Before They Could Finish That Sentence
The Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell the unfolding violence at the US Capitol.
The Washington Post reports that the Army "falsely denied for days that Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn" was involved in the key meetings. One of the officials who was on the call told CNN in the days following the insurrection at the Capitol that Flynn was not on the calls, but the military did not confirm his participation until Wednesday.
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GOP is terrified of all the facts like these that will come out in a Senate trial.
The Washington Post reports that the Army "falsely denied for days that Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn" was involved in the key meetings. One of the officials who was on the call told CNN in the days following the insurrection at the Capitol that Flynn was not on the calls, but the military did not confirm his participation until Wednesday.
Army now acknowledges the brother of Michael Flynn was a part of Army response to Capitol riot | CNN Politics
The Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell...
GOP is terrified of all the facts like these that will come out in a Senate trial.
Those motherfuckers really tried to do a coupThe Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell the unfolding violence at the US Capitol.
The Washington Post reports that the Army "falsely denied for days that Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn" was involved in the key meetings. One of the officials who was on the call told CNN in the days following the insurrection at the Capitol that Flynn was not on the calls, but the military did not confirm his participation until Wednesday.
Army now acknowledges the brother of Michael Flynn was a part of Army response to Capitol riot | CNN Politics
The Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell...
GOP is terrified of all the facts like these that will come out in a Senate trial.
Nope, that's not it. check your history on this one. The white working class in the '60s & '70s were more Democratic-leaning. This is also during the heyday of the American Labor unions. That started to change in the late '70s and into the '80s as more Manufacturing jobs began to leave the country due to competition from more modern plants and cheaper labor in other parts of the world. The Reagan years saw a lot of anti-union strategy by the GOP. That lost a lot of white working-class Americans to the GOP. Of course, this has been a disaster for working-class America especially in the Red States where we see a devotion to a party whose core principles keep these people near-poverty or in it, deprives them of healthcare, and decent education. Of course, economic disenfranchisement is a breeding ground for radicalism and fanaticism. If you look at the places in the Midwest and the old Democratic Blue Wall what you see is a lot of Saltine Militia activity. It would be better for the party, in general, to get some of those voters back because it would make it easier to win elections that's all there is to it.
My God, listen to Fauci in this breifing. Real science, real transparency and real information... stunning difference.
I can’t even try to keep up with this thread, just parachute in once a day and nod my head in agreement for a few minutes.
Props to @Spectrum as always
Appreciate all the posters in here sharing their insights as well.
Folks on BGOL love pretending Bernie is some virulent racist... shit is actually hilarious lol.
No
The Truth is that $2000 was being championed for the December deal. $2000 is an estimate for what
will help most. The December deal and the amount was not in stone. After congress and Trump passed
a deal for $600, the $2000 Target didn't change to $2600, it stayed $2000 so that is why a new deal is
being worked on for an additional $1400.
No other lawyer wanted to touch this case so yeah.
Republicans can always count on some group to pick up the slack of a waning constituent.
Fauci talking big shit now that Comrade Trump had to give up the sticks.
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Worry not, ivanka. Your father will still be creepy.