Jim Buss: Bynum is untouchable and Kobe felt he should have been consulted

[killa kadafi191]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_mike_brown_kobe_bryant_jim_buss_lakers052511

I know Jim Buss takes credit for finding Bynum. Hell he was the first one to speak to say "hell no, we are not trading Bynum for Melo."

Jerry is handing the team down to Jim and from the looks of it he is already in control. He choose the coach he wanted and mitch and him are basically saying Bynum is the future of the Lakers

I know Jim and Kobe don't have as good relationship as with Jerry but this looks like Jim is showing everyone especially Kobe who is in charge.

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

Just what LA needs.

You have Jim Buss, who is out to prove he's in control. You have Kobe, whose probably feeling threatened by the fact that Jim favors Bynum. Then you have Mike Brown walking into the middle of all of that.

THIS OUGHT TO GO WELL!

Bynum will want a larger role in the offense, and will voice that 'cause he feels like Jim Buss is his guy. Kobe will not want to give into those demands, 'cause he didn't even want to give into SHAQ, but he will be on his "I Still Got It!" tour through the NBA, that Mike Brown will enable.

THIS OUGHT TO GO WELL!!

 

[Spectrum]

Just what LA needs.

You have Jim Buss, who is out to prove he's in control. You have Kobe, whose probably feeling threatened by the fact that Jim favors Bynum. Then you have Mike Brown walking into the middle of all of that.

THIS OUGHT TO GO WELL!

 

[Maxxam]

Honestly... does anyone trust Yao Oden's knees??

 

[Spectrum]

Honestly... does anyone trust Yao Oden's knees??

I am surprised they are putting that much faith in Bynum.

 

[MadWun]

I am surprised they are putting that much faith in Bynum.

Surprisingly, they are. Kobe only has 3-5 years left in him, so I do not blame the Lakers for the moves they are making.

They might be "gassing" Bynum up, because his ass is trade bait for Dwight Howard

 

[Nobody]

He's a dumbass if he doesn't try to explore a trade for Howard.

Because, while Bynum can be a very good player, his ceiling is the second best center in the league behind...you guessed it, Dwight Howard.

Better defense, better offense and far more durable.

 

[TimRock]

bait

 

[Spectrum]

Surprisingly, they are. Kobe only has 3-5 years left in him, so I do not blame the Lakers for the moves they are making.

They might be "gassing" Bynum up, because his ass is trade bait for Dwight Howard

Maybe. A big man with a history of knee problems is on a very short clock...history just illustrates that he wont average more than the 55 games he is averaging per year. I cant expect that to improve as he gets older and grinds on those bad knees even more.

Plus..the Lakers have a history of going after superstars... wouldnt be surprised at all to see Howards in LA

 

[killa kadafi191]

Surprisingly, they are. Kobe only has 3-5 years left in him, so I do not blame the Lakers for the moves they are making.

They might be "gassing" Bynum up, because his ass is trade bait for Dwight Howard

I don't think that Jim was the guy defending why they didn't trade Bynum to the Nets for Jason Kidd. He was the first one to shoot down the Melo for Bynum rumors.

Bynum is his guy and look at mitch in his exit interview he said Bynum will play a bigger role in the offense. Bynum has been talking big lately and we know why he has the boss backing him.

Again the Lakers only chance to get Dwight as its been said over and over will be at draft. They will be eliminating sign and trades and that is the only way the Lakers can get him.

I'm still questioning why Kobe didn't even get a call but I already know this is Buss way of saying I run this team and Bynum is here to stay

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

I'd like to see "turkey neck" get shipped out with the quickness.

He has no hunger left.

 

[AgentCreed]

kobe has an opt out either this offseason or next... if shit happens how he doesn't like don't be shocked if he opts out and goes where brian shaw goes or if phil comes back after next season where phil goes...

 

[hsm2448]

not saying they need to double down on kobe, but bynum as the cornerstone of your franchise is a terrible idea. knock on wood i never wish harm on anyone but he is simply not reliable physically.

 

[MadWun]

I don't think that Jim was the guy defending why they didn't trade Bynum to the Nets for Jason Kidd. He was the first one to shoot down the Melo for Bynum rumors.

Bynum is his guy and look at mitch in his exit interview he said Bynum will play a bigger role in the offense. Bynum has been talking big lately and we know why he has the boss backing him.

Again the Lakers only chance to get Dwight as its been said over and over will be at draft. They will be eliminating sign and trades and that is the only way the Lakers can get him.

I'm still questioning why Kobe didn't even get a call but I already know this is Buss way of saying I run this team and Bynum is here to stay

Kobe not getting a call was messed up, but Jim should have still involved him even though the decision was already set.

From Brown's interview yesterday, he said he and Kobe have sent texts back and forth. This situation here will show if Kobe has grown up or not. I mean he has less than 5 years left, and if he can make this work, it will help his legacy.

 

[BDR]

If Kobr is shrewd he would excrise his opt out clause and go to Chicago

 

[Spectrum]

If Kobr is shrewd he would excrise his opt out clause and go to Chicago

well...the bulls do need a SG

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

Kobe not getting a call was messed up, but Jim should have still involved him even though the decision was already set.

From Brown's interview yesterday, he said he and Kobe have sent texts back and forth. This situation here will show if Kobe has grown up or not. I mean he has less than 5 years left, and if he can make this work, it will help his legacy.

Dude, Kobe Bryant is about as intense about being in control and being great as any athlete I've ever seen. That is cool at times, but that mentality has a dark side, and it tends to rear it's ugly head when control is being threatened or taken away - "Bynum needs to get in line" - and the path to achieving greatness in the way they prefer to achieve it being blocked(i.e. Shoot as often as he desires, unquestioned).

 

[MadWun]

Dude, Kobe Bryant is about as intense about being in control and being great as any athlete I've ever seen. That is cool at times, but that mentality has a dark side, and it tends to rear it's ugly head when control is being threatened or taken away - "Bynum needs to get in line" - and the path to achieving greatness in the way they prefer to achieve it being blocked(i.e. Shoot as often as he desires, unquestioned).

And I have a problem with that "shoot as often as I want mentality." The fucker takes A LOT of stupid, bad shots. He has weapons around him like Bynum, Gasol, and Lamar. Use them to make things easier for you.

Again, Kobe needs to accept this new situation, and roll with it. If it does not work out, there is no way in hell he can be blamed.

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

And I have a problem with that "shoot as often as I want mentality." The fucker takes A LOT of stupid, bad shots. He has weapons around him like Bynum, Gasol, and Lamar. Use them to make things easier for you.

Again, Kobe needs to accept this new situation, and roll with it. If it does not work out, there is no way in hell he can be blamed.

Dude, you don't score 81 points in an NBA game without being fucked in the head. He should have be thwarted by fatigue, but his love of shooting, and the fact that he was such a roll, kept him going.

Look at his body language the moment he mentally REALIZED it was all over...

....dude shoulders dropped, and he looked tired as shit. It's not like he became tired that instant. Nigga was running on fumes for a minute, but that's how much dude loves to score, man.

 

[killa kadafi191]

I do agree the recent events were in response to Kobe exit interview. How he said Bynum needs to get in line.

That was a day after Mitch said Bynum will be playing a key role in the offense. Jim is making a power move.

Same thing happen in Utah when the son took over the team. Dude actually didn't tell his mother about the Deron trade till it was finish because she could had veto it. He actually admitted that.

HIS MOTHER.

 

[TOMMYGUNZZ]

If Kobr is shrewd he would excrise his opt out clause and go to Chicago

Wouldn't that be some shit!! LMAO!!

 

[Bxlegend]

CP3 will be a Laker, not Dwight

 

[malaki]

I'd like to see "turkey neck" get shipped out with the quickness.

He has no hunger left.

 

[killa kadafi191]

CP3 will be a Laker, not Dwight

Again with sign and trades being thrown out this can't happen.

 

[Bxlegend]

Again with sign and trades being thrown out this can't happen.

Even if that is the case they will be addressing PG in the offseason, not the 5

 

[xfactor]

Better defense, better offense and far more durable.

I'll give you durability and defense but Howard better than Bynum on O?

Bynum produces .06 more points per possession than Howard on offense and their TS% is the same. Bynum is a better passer and won't turn it over like Howard will.

Bynum's not as good a rebounder but he's a better shot blocker than Howard. Bynum's injury problems and playing with a black hole at SG will prevent him from reaching his full potential which would be the best C in the league.

 

[xfactor]

CP3 will be a Laker, not Dwight

Not unless they get rid of the dead weight they have in their backcourt now. CP can't play with an SG that can't defend or knock down open shots and the current laker SGs are poor at both of those skills.

 

[theoriginalgreatone]

That team is finished!

 

[xfactor]

well...the bulls do need a SG

While Keith Bogans has done a decent job, I think the Bulls would fare better with an SG that can create his own shot as well as knock down the 3.

I wouldn't look to downgrade with the potential player addition that posters are alluding to in this thread. Bogans would be a better fit.

 

[BDR]

While Keith Bogans has done a decent job, I think the Bulls would fare better with an SG that can create his own shot as well as knock down the 3.

I wouldn't look to downgrade with the potential player addition that posters are alluding to in this thread. Bogans would be a better fit.

On some real shit stfu, you sound like a fuckin dumb ass

 

[Nobody]

I'll give you durability and defense but Howard better than Bynum on O?

Bynum produces .06 more points per possession than Howard on offense and their TS% is the same. Bynum is a better passer and won't turn it over like Howard will.

Bynum's not as good a rebounder but he's a better shot blocker than Howard. Bynum's injury problems and playing with a black hole at SG will prevent him from reaching his full potential which would be the best C in the league.

The way I look at it Bynum may have more points per possession (and let's be honest, .06 points is too minute to even bother bringing up IMO and that only comes from shooting a little better in free throws) but the difference is Bynum is playing alongside Bryant and Gasol, while Howard is playing alongside who?

Both of those players, despite your hatred for Kobe, are better passers than Howard has on his team, and draw more of the defense than any player Howard has.

You're comparing a player who's third option at best who very rarely sees double teams to a player who is constantly double teamed. And when he isn't double teamed he destroys his competition.

Bynum is longer and is a slighly better shot blocker, but for Howard completely changes the way teams play offense.

Even if he didn't play with Kobe and he played with someone like Chris Paul, his injury problems would always prevent him from competing for the title of best center. If he didn't have those issues, then I would be inclined to agree with you. But he does. So it remains that Howard is the better player.

And if LA were to get Howard without losing Gasol and Kobe?

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

On some real shit stfu, you sound like a fuckin dumb ass

I don't even take those dudes seriously anymore. No one does but the other idiots who believe the bs they spew.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

Just what LA needs.

You have Jim Buss, who is out to prove he's in control. You have Kobe, whose probably feeling threatened by the fact that Jim favors Bynum. Then you have Mike Brown walking into the middle of all of that.

THIS OUGHT TO GO WELL!

Bynum will want a larger role in the offense, and will voice that 'cause he feels like Jim Buss is his guy. Kobe will not want to give into those demands, 'cause he didn't even want to give into SHAQ, but he will be on his "I Still Got It!" tour through the NBA, that Mike Brown will enable.

THIS OUGHT TO GO WELL!!

We'll see....

But for once..I am inclined to agree with you.

 

[BDR]

I don't even take those dudes seriously anymore. No one does but the other idiots who believe the bs they spew.

Niggas like talking some wild shit

 

[TheKingofVa]

Stop with the Dwight Howard to the Lakers shit. Every team in the NBA has just as good a chance to get Dwight as the Lakers do. LA has no cap room and deteriorating assests. No way Orlando takes Bynum in return for Howard.