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Trump Subpoena Is Issued, Setting Up Showdown With Jan. 6 Panel
  • Panel gives former president Nov. 14 deadline to testify
  • Action likely sets up legal challenge that may run out clock
LINK TO LETTER, DOCUMENTS REQUEST & SUBPOENA

The House committee investigating last year’s attack on the Capitol issued a subpoena to Donald Trump, demanding the former president account for his actions under oath and initiating a legal showdown that could test the persistence of presidential prerogatives after leaving office.

The subpoena, approved by the panel Oct. 13, underscores the committee members’ portrait of Trump as the key instigator in the assault on the Capitol just weeks ahead of congressional elections in which many Republican candidates have embraced Trump’s false claims about the 2020 presidential contest.

“As demonstrated in our hearings, we have assembled overwhelming evidence, including from dozens of your former appointees and staff, that you personally orchestrated and oversaw a multi-part effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power,” committee Chair Bennie Thompson and Vice Chair Liz Cheney wrote in a letter to Trump accompanying the subpoena.

The panel wants to initially interview Trump beginning Nov. 14 or soon afterward, according to the letter. The deposition would be under oath and led by the committee’s professional staff, which includes former federal prosecutors, and members of the panel. The subpoena directs Trump to provide documents by Nov. 4.

If Trump doesn’t comply with the subpoena, the House can vote on whether to make a criminal referral to Attorney General Merrick Garland, who can choose whether or not to pursue charges. The Justice Department is already investigating Trump’s handling of classified documents seized from the former president’s Mar-a-Lago residence, while state authorities in Georgia and New York pursue other investigations of Trump and his associates.

A Trump spokesman didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.


The committee also is demanding extensive records of Trump’s communications during the election fight, including all communications the former president had or directed with members of Congress and the Justice Department on efforts to overturn the 2020 election and with state officials to delay certification of election returns. It specifically includes communications through secure encrypted apps such as Signal.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre declined to comment specifically about the Trump subpoena.


President Joe Biden believes “it is important to get to the bottom of what happened on Jan. 6. It was a very dark day in our nation. It was an attack on our democracy,” she said.

The subpoena specifically seeks records and communications related to Trump’s involvement in efforts to field alternative sets of electors in disputed states and attempts to influence Vice President Mike Pence to use his role in the Jan. 6 electoral vote count to try to overturn the results.

And the panel is also seeking records of any communication as far back as Sept. 1, 2020, with the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers or similar militia groups tied to violence at the Capitol. The panel also wants records of communications with key Trump lieutenants in the effort to overturn the election, including Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn and Rudy Giuliani. Bannon on Friday was sentenced to four months in jail for defying a subpoena from the Jan. 6 committee.

Trump posted a 14-page response after the committee vote on the subpoena that didn’t address whether he would comply. Instead, he repeated falsehoods about the 2020 election.

If Trump challenges the subpoena in court, or if the committee sues to enforce it, the legal fight could take years by raising largely untested questions about immunity for presidents in and out of office. The US Justice Department brought contempt charges against two witnesses who defied Jan. 6 subpoenas, but chose to not prosecute others, so Trump also could take his chances by simply not showing up.
Any subpoena issued by the committee will expire at the end of the congressional term. If Republicans take control of the House in the midterm elections next month, GOP leaders are expected to end the committee’s work, likely making any subpoena fight moot.


Thompson and Cheney noted in their letter that Presidents John Quincy Adams, John Tyler, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Harry Truman and Gerald Ford each testified before Congress after they left office. Roosevelt said during his congressional testimony, “an ex-president is merely a citizen of the United States.”

But the only former president to be subpoenaed to testify before a congressional committee in modern times was Truman, who was ordered to appear before the House Un-American Activities in 1953. Truman refused to comply and the committee didn’t try to enforce the subpoena.

— With assistance by Mark Niquette, Jenny Leonard and Billy House

 
Trump Subpoena Is Issued, Setting Up Showdown With Jan. 6 Panel
  • Panel gives former president Nov. 14 deadline to testify
  • Action likely sets up legal challenge that may run out clock
LINK TO LETTER, DOCUMENTS REQUEST & SUBPOENA

The House committee investigating last year’s attack on the Capitol issued a subpoena to Donald Trump, demanding the former president account for his actions under oath and initiating a legal showdown that could test the persistence of presidential prerogatives after leaving office.

The subpoena, approved by the panel Oct. 13, underscores the committee members’ portrait of Trump as the key instigator in the assault on the Capitol just weeks ahead of congressional elections in which many Republican candidates have embraced Trump’s false claims about the 2020 presidential contest.

“As demonstrated in our hearings, we have assembled overwhelming evidence, including from dozens of your former appointees and staff, that you personally orchestrated and oversaw a multi-part effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power,” committee Chair Bennie Thompson and Vice Chair Liz Cheney wrote in a letter to Trump accompanying the subpoena.

The panel wants to initially interview Trump beginning Nov. 14 or soon afterward, according to the letter. The deposition would be under oath and led by the committee’s professional staff, which includes former federal prosecutors, and members of the panel. The subpoena directs Trump to provide documents by Nov. 4.

If Trump doesn’t comply with the subpoena, the House can vote on whether to make a criminal referral to Attorney General Merrick Garland, who can choose whether or not to pursue charges. The Justice Department is already investigating Trump’s handling of classified documents seized from the former president’s Mar-a-Lago residence, while state authorities in Georgia and New York pursue other investigations of Trump and his associates.

A Trump spokesman didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.


The committee also is demanding extensive records of Trump’s communications during the election fight, including all communications the former president had or directed with members of Congress and the Justice Department on efforts to overturn the 2020 election and with state officials to delay certification of election returns. It specifically includes communications through secure encrypted apps such as Signal.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre declined to comment specifically about the Trump subpoena.


President Joe Biden believes “it is important to get to the bottom of what happened on Jan. 6. It was a very dark day in our nation. It was an attack on our democracy,” she said.

The subpoena specifically seeks records and communications related to Trump’s involvement in efforts to field alternative sets of electors in disputed states and attempts to influence Vice President Mike Pence to use his role in the Jan. 6 electoral vote count to try to overturn the results.

And the panel is also seeking records of any communication as far back as Sept. 1, 2020, with the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers or similar militia groups tied to violence at the Capitol. The panel also wants records of communications with key Trump lieutenants in the effort to overturn the election, including Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn and Rudy Giuliani. Bannon on Friday was sentenced to four months in jail for defying a subpoena from the Jan. 6 committee.

Trump posted a 14-page response after the committee vote on the subpoena that didn’t address whether he would comply. Instead, he repeated falsehoods about the 2020 election.

If Trump challenges the subpoena in court, or if the committee sues to enforce it, the legal fight could take years by raising largely untested questions about immunity for presidents in and out of office. The US Justice Department brought contempt charges against two witnesses who defied Jan. 6 subpoenas, but chose to not prosecute others, so Trump also could take his chances by simply not showing up.
Any subpoena issued by the committee will expire at the end of the congressional term. If Republicans take control of the House in the midterm elections next month, GOP leaders are expected to end the committee’s work, likely making any subpoena fight moot.


Thompson and Cheney noted in their letter that Presidents John Quincy Adams, John Tyler, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Harry Truman and Gerald Ford each testified before Congress after they left office. Roosevelt said during his congressional testimony, “an ex-president is merely a citizen of the United States.”

But the only former president to be subpoenaed to testify before a congressional committee in modern times was Truman, who was ordered to appear before the House Un-American Activities in 1953. Truman refused to comply and the committee didn’t try to enforce the subpoena.

— With assistance by Mark Niquette, Jenny Leonard and Billy House

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Jan. 6 committee extends subpoena deadline after Trump doesn't hand over documents

The House committee said it would not alter the date of Trump's deposition, scheduled for Nov. 14. His attorneys have not said publicly whether he would comply with the subpoena.

By Ryan Nobles and Zoë Richards
Nov. 4, 2022, 9:53 PM EDT


The House committee investigating the attack on the Capitol gave former President Donald Trump an extra week to provide requested documents after lawmakers said Friday that they did not receive any records from a subpoena issued last month in connection with the Jan. 6 riot.

The initial subpoena deadline was 10 a.m. ET Friday for any communications Trump may have had regarding extremist groups involved in the riot and any attempts in the past year to contact witnesses testifying before the Jan. 6 committee.

The Oct. 21 subpoena also called for Trump to provide testimony at the Capitol or by videoconference on Nov. 14.

In a joint statement Friday, the committee's chair, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and vice chair Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., said that while they were allowing additional time for the documents, they were not changing the date for Trump's deposition.

“We have received correspondence from the former President and his counsel in connection with the Select Committee’s subpoena," they said. "We have informed the former President’s counsel that he must begin producing records no later than next week and he remains under subpoena for deposition testimony starting on November 14th."

A spokesperson for the Dhillon Law Group, which previously acknowledged service of the subpoena, did not respond to a request for comment.

David A. Warrington, a lawyer for Trump at the firm, previously said that the firm would look over the subpoena, but did not say publicly whether Trump plans to comply with it.

“As with any similar matter, we will review and analyze it, and will respond as appropriate to this unprecedented action," Warrington said in a statement at the time.

Trump has given signals that he's eyeing a 2024 announcement this month. Two sources familiar with his thinking told NBC News that he will likely announce another presidential bid this month, though the date could slide.
 
Trump files lawsuit to avoid Jan. 6 committee subpoena

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UPDATED ON: NOVEMBER 11, 2022 / 10:01 PM / CBS/AP


Former President Donald Trump is suing the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to block a subpoena requiring him to testify.

The lawsuit filed Friday alleges that the subpoena "is invalid, unlawful, and unenforceable because President Trump, as a former president of the United States, has absolute immunity from being compelled to testify before Congress or a committee thereof regarding his actions as head of a co-equal branch of government."

It also argues that while other presidents "voluntarily agreed to testify or turn over documents in response to a congressional subpoena, no president or former president has ever been compelled to do so."

In a statement provided to CBS News Friday night, Trump attorney David A. Warrington said that: "Long held precedent and practice maintain that separation of powers prohibits Congress from compelling a president to testify before it."

He said the former president had "engaged with the committee in a good faith effort to resolve these concerns consistent with Executive Branch prerogatives and separation of powers," but said the panel "insists on pursuing a political path, leaving President Trump with no choice but to involve the third branch, the judicial branch, in this dispute between the executive and legislative branches."

The committee voted to subpoena Trump during its final hearing before the midterm elections and formally did so last month, demanding testimony from the former president. Committee member members allege Trump "personally orchestrated" a multi-part effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

They said Trump had to testify, either at the Capitol or by videoconference, "beginning on or about" Nov. 14 and continuing for multiple days if necessary.

The letter also outlined a sweeping request for documents, including personal communications between Trump and members of Congress as well as extremist groups.

The lawsuit comes as Trump is expected to launch a third campaign for president next week.
 
Trump files lawsuit to avoid Jan. 6 committee subpoena

CBS News
UPDATED ON: NOVEMBER 11, 2022 / 10:01 PM / CBS/AP


Former President Donald Trump is suing the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to block a subpoena requiring him to testify.

The lawsuit filed Friday alleges that the subpoena "is invalid, unlawful, and unenforceable because President Trump, as a former president of the United States, has absolute immunity from being compelled to testify before Congress or a committee thereof regarding his actions as head of a co-equal branch of government."

It also argues that while other presidents "voluntarily agreed to testify or turn over documents in response to a congressional subpoena, no president or former president has ever been compelled to do so."

In a statement provided to CBS News Friday night, Trump attorney David A. Warrington said that: "Long held precedent and practice maintain that separation of powers prohibits Congress from compelling a president to testify before it."

He said the former president had "engaged with the committee in a good faith effort to resolve these concerns consistent with Executive Branch prerogatives and separation of powers," but said the panel "insists on pursuing a political path, leaving President Trump with no choice but to involve the third branch, the judicial branch, in this dispute between the executive and legislative branches."

The committee voted to subpoena Trump during its final hearing before the midterm elections and formally did so last month, demanding testimony from the former president. Committee member members allege Trump "personally orchestrated" a multi-part effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

They said Trump had to testify, either at the Capitol or by videoconference, "beginning on or about" Nov. 14 and continuing for multiple days if necessary.

The letter also outlined a sweeping request for documents, including personal communications between Trump and members of Congress as well as extremist groups.

The lawsuit comes as Trump is expected to launch a third campaign for president next week.
If I had to guess, Trump will just try to stall the committee. Which he was going to do, anyway, but he has more incentive to try now that there is a fair chance that the House will be GOP controlled next year. I'd be really shocked to see him actually sit down to answer questions.
 
Desantis would get crushed in a primary against Donald Trump.

Desantis is well known with the internet MAGA base and the mainstream media but outside of that he is not known. Trump still has star power.

When candidates are running for congress who do you think they want to endorse them? Donald Trump or Desantis. Everybody wants the trump endorsement.

Now after Elon Musk said he would back Desantis a lot of his base was kinda split.

But after The Whole Roe vs Way got overturned. A lot of this base went right back to trump. Since the conservatives have waited almost 50 years and almost every republican bullshit and never delivered.



You sure about that now son?

Might want to check again :idea:
 
lol Then you wonder why republicans still support trump. The Jan 6 should of vetted there witnesses. Now this bitch just blew up whatever credibility they had.


I don't think they will support him much longer after that ass kicking they took in the midterms when the roadmap was laid out for them to take win it all with ease :lol:
 
lol doing all this bullshit is just helping trump getting elected again.

maybe if democrats worry about why gas is $5 and focus on the country that people elected you to run.

that they would not have to worry about trump running in 2024! If Biden and the democrats had any confidence why would you worry if trumps run again? Maybe is because they know they have nothing to offer
Bad news.

Your boy Trump ain't getting elected to shit. If you judge by his performance and track record of picking candidates in the midterms, then his chances of re-election is next to nil.

Trump is done son.
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Supreme Court allows Jan. 6 committee to subpoena Kelli Ward’s phone records
Conservative justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito noted in the brief order that they would have granted the Arizona GOP chair's request to block the committee's subpoena.

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Kelli Ward at a campaign fundraiser in Scottsdale, Ariz., in 2017.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday declined to block the release of Arizona Republican Party Chair Kelli Ward’s phone records to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

The justices rejected an emergency request filed by Ward, meaning that phone records associated with her T-Mobile cellphone will be disclosed to the House committee. Two conservative justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, noted in the brief order that they would have granted the application.


A committee spokesman declined to comment.

Thomas has faced scrutiny over his participation in cases concerning the 2020 election because his wife, Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, has questioned the results of the presidential election and given testimony to the Jan. 6 committee herself. Justice Thomas also participated in a January 2022 decision in which the court declined former President Donald Trump's bid to prevent White House records being disclosed to the committee.

Liberal Justice Elena Kagan last month temporarily prevented the Ward subpoena from being enforced while the justices weighed what steps to take.

Ward and her husband, Michael Ward, were among 14 of 84 so-called alternate electors subpoenaed this year by the Jan. 6 committee, which cited their association with bogus documents claiming then-President Donald Trump had won the 2020 election in their states.

Lower courts, including the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, rejected Ward’s arguments to block the subpoena.

The couple, who are both doctors, have argued, among other things, that disclosing their records would violate medical privacy laws. The committee is pursuing only Kelli Ward’s records. At the Supreme Court, Ward argued that the subpoena violates her right to freedom of association under the Constitution’s First Amendment.

“If Dr. Ward’s telephone and text message records are disclosed, congressional investigators are going to contact every person who communicated with her during and immediately after the tumult of the 2020 election. That is not speculation, it is a certainty,” the couple’s lawyers wrote in court papers.

The subpoena focuses on a T-Mobile cellphone account linked with Ward. Among the information it seeks are all phone numbers, IP addresses or devices that had any communication with the phone in the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election.

Ward and fellow Republicans had created a competing slate of electors for Arizona declaring that Trump won, despite election results showing Joe Biden got more votes in the state. Those actions have come under scrutiny by the Justice Department as well as the Jan. 6 committee.

Under the normal process, which Arizona government officials followed, certification of the state’s vote by a group of appointed electors is a formality after a winner is determined by the popular vote. Trump and his allies in 2020 pursued a far-fetched theory that if the states submitted competing election results to Congress, lawmakers meeting in the Capitol to certify the results on Jan. 6, 2021, could have prevented Biden from becoming president.

In addition to other faults in the plan, Vice President Mike Pence, who had a ceremonial role in the certification process, refused to go along with it. The attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob was intrinsically linked with efforts to overturn Biden’s victory.



Supreme Court allows Jan. 6 committee to subpoena Kelli Ward’s phone records (nbcnews.com)
 
Garland to appoint special counsel for Trump criminal probes
Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special prosecutor to oversee criminal matters related to former President Donald Trump, according to a senior Justice Department official.

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Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special prosecutor to oversee criminal matters related to former President Donald Trump, according to a senior Justice Department official.

The investigation will include the Justice Department’s probe of Trump’s alleged retention of highly sensitive national security secrets at his Mar-a-Lago estate, as well as aspects of the effort by Trump and his allies effort to subvert the 2020 election and disrupt the transition of power to President Joe Biden.

The announcement triggers an extraordinary investigation into an ex-president and his allies and comes as Trump mounts a new bid to reclaim the presidency.

Garland to appoint special counsel for Trump criminal probes - POLITICO
 
DOJ announces special counsel for Trump-related Mar-a-Lago and January 6 criminal investigations

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CNN —

Attorney General Merrick Garland on Friday appointed a special counsel to oversee the criminal investigations into the retention of national defense information at former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago report and parts of the January 6, 2021, insurrection.
Both investigations implicate the conduct of Trump, who on Tuesday declared his candidacy in the 2024 presidential race, making him a potential rival of President Joe Biden.
Jack Smith, the former chief prosecutor for the special court in The Hague, where he investigated war crimes in Kosovo, will oversee the investigations.
Justice Department officials have been debating for weeks whether to appoint a special counsel, CNN previously reported.
Trump has sought to paint the investigations as politically motivated, including at his Tuesday presidential announcement, where he said he was the victim of a “weaponization” of the justice system.

Trump’s team had been discussing in recent days the likelihood that the Justice Department would appoint a special counsel, multiple sources familiar with the talks told CNN.

Trump’s lawyers had been dreading the prospect, concerned it could drag out the investigation they have fought continuously in court. And Trump himself has complained about the matter, likening the prospect to former special counsel Robert Mueller, who oversaw the Russia investigation.

According to multiple sources, both the Mar-a-Lago investigation and the January 6 investigation around Trump are aiming to gather more information and bring witnesses into a federal grand jury in the coming weeks. Prosecutors sent out several new subpoenas related to both investigations in recent days, with quick return dates as early as next week.

Some of the witnesses being pursued in this round had not spoken to the investigators in these cases before, according to some of the sources.

This story has been updated with additional details.



DOJ announces special counsel for Trump-related Mar-a-Lago and January 6 criminal investigations | CNN Politics
 
All these MF gon be dead before anybody goes to jail.

Im starting to think that Trump is possibly ill and is not gonna be around for too long.

Trump still has not disclosed his medical records.

It came out while he was in office that he was secretly taken in to Walter Reed for a few days. We don’t know why.

He had Covid that almost took him out. It’s possible he is suffering from Long Covid and they still got him pumped up on meds.

His performance at his rallies, he does not have the same energy and stamina like how he was back in 2015/2016.

The DOJ, DoD and other alphabet agencies have full access to his medical records.

It’s possible they know he is a dead man walking and that putting him thru the legal system and having him drop dead during the process will be a PR nightmare that the GOP will spin in their benefit.

Its possible AG Garland is intentionally dragging all this out cuz he knows Trump is a dead man walking.

The other mofos under Trump. They all going down eventually.
 
Garland to appoint special counsel for Trump criminal probes
Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special prosecutor to oversee criminal matters related to former President Donald Trump, according to a senior Justice Department official.

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Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special prosecutor to oversee criminal matters related to former President Donald Trump, according to a senior Justice Department official.

The investigation will include the Justice Department’s probe of Trump’s alleged retention of highly sensitive national security secrets at his Mar-a-Lago estate, as well as aspects of the effort by Trump and his allies effort to subvert the 2020 election and disrupt the transition of power to President Joe Biden.

The announcement triggers an extraordinary investigation into an ex-president and his allies and comes as Trump mounts a new bid to reclaim the presidency.

Garland to appoint special counsel for Trump criminal probes - POLITICO


This is absolute bullshit. Garland is tiptoeing thinking he can not be cast as the villain. News flash - the russian-republican joint propaganda task force is already finalizing their talking points. There's no way he doesn't get the full dose of mud.
Just get on with it already. The elections are over, start nailing these motherfuckers; the sane people of this country are starting to lose faith. And you don't want that in 2024.
 
I feel odd saying it….but I kind of agree with Trump.

AG Garland, if you gonna do something….then do it already.:16:

Trump lashes out at special prosecutor announcement, says he will not 'partake'

“For six years I have been going through this, and I am not going to go through it anymore,” Trump told Fox News Digital in an interview Friday.

By KELLY GARRITY
11/18/2022 04:34 PM EST
Updated: 11/18/2022 05:03 PM EST


Donald Trump was quick to attack Attorney General Merrick Garland’s appointment of a special prosecutor to oversee criminal investigations of the former president.

“I have been going through this for six years — for six years I have been going through this, and I am not going to go through it anymore,” Trump told Fox News Digital in an interview Friday. “And I hope the Republicans have the courage to fight this.”

Trump, who earlier this week announced his third presidential run, is facing a number of investigations which will now fall under the special prosecutor’s purview, including allegedly storing classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate and allegedly inciting the Jan. 6 riots. On Friday, the former president maintained his innocence, calling the appointment “unfair,” “political,” “not even believable,” and “the worst politicization of justice in our country.”
“I have been proven innocent for six years on everything — from fake impeachments to Mueller, who found no collusion, and now I have to do it more? It is not acceptable. It is so unfair. It is so political,” Trump told Fox, adding “I am not going to partake in it.”

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said the White House did not receive any advance notice of the appointment.

“This is — the Department of Justice makes their own decision when it relates to criminal investigation. We were not involved,” Jean-Pierre said.

When asked specifically about Trump’s comments to Fox, Jean-Pierre reaffirmed the White House’s stance.

“We do not politicize the Department of Justice. That is something that the president said during the campaign. That is something that the president said during his early days of being in the White House, and that continues to be true. We were not involved in this particular issue,” Jean-Pierre said.

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This is absolute bullshit. Garland is tiptoeing thinking he can not be cast as the villain. News flash - the russian-republican joint propaganda task force is already finalizing their talking points. There's no way he doesn't get the full dose of mud.
Just get on with it already. The elections are over, start nailing these motherfuckers; the sane people of this country are starting to lose faith. And you don't want that in 2024.
Elie Mystal ripped Garland a new one on The Beat tonight.....
Elie Mystal Slams Merrick Garland's ‘Self-Serving’ Appointment of Special Counsel to Investigate Trump (mediaite.com)



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House January 6 committee has decided to make criminal referrals, chairman says

CNN —
The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol has decided to make criminal referrals to the Department of Justice, the panel’s chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, told reporters Tuesday.

Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, said the committee has not narrowed down the universe of individuals who may be referred.

Asked whether Thompson believed any witnesses perjured themselves, he said, “that’s part of the discussion.”

When the panel makes referrals, Thompson said it will be a separate document from the panel’s final report that will be sent to DOJ.

The committee is expected to meet later Tuesday.

A source tells CNN the criminal referrals the January 6 committee will ultimately be making “will be focused on the main organizers and leaders of the attacks.”

A subcommittee of members was tasked with providing options to the full committee about how to present evidence of possible obstruction, possible perjury and possible witness tampering as well as potential criminal referrals to the Department of Justice, according to multiple sources familiar with the committee’s work.

Democratic Reps. Jamie Raskin, Adam Schiff and Zoe Lofgren and GOP Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the panel, all trained lawyers, comprise this subcommittee.

The decision of whether to issue criminal referrals has loomed large over the committee. Members on the panel have been in wide agreement that former President Donald Trump and some of his closest allies have committed a crime when he pushed a conspiracy to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, as they’ve laid out in their hearings. But they have long been split over what to do about it, including whether to make a criminal referral of Trump to the Justice Department.
In the past, the question has led to a vigorous, at times contentious, debate among committee members, sources have said. Those who previously said criminal referrals are not necessary to close out the panel’s investigation say the committee lacks prosecutorial powers, and that the Justice Department does not need Congress to investigate crimes as it has its own criminal investigations into the Capitol attack that are ongoing.

Still, the idea of a criminal referral of Trump, even if entirely symbolic in nature, has hung like a shadow over the panel since it was first formed, and many members felt it was a necessary measure in order to complete its work.

This story and headline have been updated with additional developments Tuesday.




House January 6 committee has decided to make criminal referrals, chairman says | CNN Politics
 
Jan. 6 panel plans weekend meeting to consider criminal referrals
Members also intend to hold a public meeting on Dec. 21 to vote on the release of their report and any associated referrals.


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Bennie Thompson had suggested over the summer that a criminal referral of Donald Trump was unlikely. | Drew Angerer

The Jan. 6 select committee plans to huddle Sunday to discuss whether to make criminal referrals on any of its investigative targets — including Donald Trump.

The panel is weighing whether anyone in the scope of its investigation violated criminal law and warrants formally urging the Justice Department to lodge charges, according to the panel’s chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.). Trump is the most notable possibility on that list, and the panel has previously accused him of committing multiple crimes in his bid to subvert the 2020 election.
Those discussions will also include whether to recommend criminal charges against some of Trump’s allies in the chaotic weeks that preceded the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. And lawmakers will also debate whether any of the select committee’s hundreds of witnesses committed process crimes — like perjury, witness tampering or contempt of Congress.

The prospect of criminal referrals has assumed heightened significance in the select committee’s final days, and it’s a marked shift for members who once seemed skeptical of and even downright opposed to making any at all.
“I think the more we looked at the body of evidence that we collected, we just felt that while we’re not in the business of investigating people for criminal activities, we just couldn’t overlook some of them,” Thompson said.
Thompson had suggested over the summer that a criminal referral of Trump was unlikely, and other committee members, like Reps. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) and Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), similarly suggested they didn’t see a need, or even a role, for the panel to take the unusual step.
Congress has no power to initiate criminal charges against its investigative targets, a power that falls exclusively under the Justice Department. Lawyers at the department have made clear for months that they want to review the select committee’s evidence and could use it as the basis for potential criminal charges, regardless of any referrals sent by the committee.
But select committee members slowly coalesced around the idea that it should make criminal recommendations anyway. Raskin said he started out “questioning why we were even talking about referrals” but he’s been “educated” and members have “all evolved in our positions.”


“I think that the rationale for doing them is when the magnitude and the gravity of the offenses compel Congress to speak about what it has found,” Raskin said. “Obviously, that is coming from the legislative branch, so you take it for what it’s worth within the system of separate powers. Ultimately, prosecutorial decisions are Executive Branch decisions but we certainly have a voice.”

Raskin is leading a four-member subcommittee that will present recommendations to the full select committee at Sunday’s virtual meeting. Thompson said that discussion will inform the panel’s final public meeting, currently targeted for Dec. 21, when members will vote on the release of their report and any associated referrals.

Thompson emphasized that the referrals won’t just be criminal. Panel members are also likely to make referrals to the Ethics Committee regarding Republican lawmakers who refused to comply with select panel subpoenas — including incoming GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy — as well as referrals for bar discipline against lawyers who aided Trump’s effort to seize a second term.

The committee is also confronting a slew of other unfinished business, including how much of its work product — including more than 1,000 witness transcripts — to publicly release.

Thompson has repeatedly emphasized that the committee plans to release virtually all of the transcripts, with some limits related to witnesses who spoke to the committee on condition of anonymity. On Thursday, Thompson also confirmed that some categories of testimony would be redacted — including law enforcement sensitive information and details that implicate personal privacy. He also said the call detail records that the panel used to map contacts between Trump and others in his orbit would likely not become public.

Asked about the hundreds of hours of video depositions the committee collected — snippets of which were aired during the panel’s series of summer hearings — Thompson said the panel is still considering whether to make them public. If not, they’ll be warehoused at the National Archives along with other committee records, he noted.

Additionally, Thompson said the panel is unlikely to make recommendations on whether any members of Congress ran afoul of the 14th Amendment’s Insurrection Clause, which bars any violators from holding public office. He said that prospect hasn’t been discussed internally by the committee, though he added he was aware it had been raised by others in Congress.


Jan. 6 panel plans weekend meeting to consider criminal referrals - POLITICO
 
January 6 committee chairman: Final public meeting will be Monday and full report will come out December 21

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Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat from Mississippi, speaks in June as the the US House select committee to investigate the January 6, 2021, attack on the United States Capitol holds its first hearing, on Capitol Hill in Washington.

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Rep. Bennie Thompson, the chairman of the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection, told reporters the committee will hold its final public meeting on Monday and that the panel’s full report will come out December 21.

Thompson, a Democrat from Mississippi, said the committee will approve the panel’s final report on December 19 and make announcements about criminal referrals to the Justice Department, but the public will not see the final report until two days later.

“We will do all of the business of the committee on the 19th,” Thompson said, which includes voting on the final report.

Members of the committee have promised to have the committee’s report released before the end of the year, as Republicans are expected to dissolve the committee when they take over the chamber in the next Congress.

Thompson told CNN that the panel is looking at five to six categories of referrals beyond those deemed criminal, but has not decided on the specific number of individuals.

Thompson said that in addition to criminal referrals to the Department of Justice, there could be other categories of referrals the committee makes such as ethics referrals to the House Ethics Committee, bar discipline referrals and campaign finance referrals.

Thompson said that when members met on Sunday they did not talk about the number of criminal referrals they talked about the different categories of referrals they wanted to pursue.

Thompson told reporters on Tuesday that Monday’s public meeting will include a presentation and cover the names of people facing criminal and other referrals, as will as the basis for those referrals.

A subcommittee of members has made recommendations to the full committee about various referrals. During the public meeting, the full committee is expected to vote on adopting the subcommittee’s recommendations.

Asked about the committee’s plans to hold a public meeting on Monday, Thompson said: “We looked at the schedule and it appears we can complete our work a little bit before that,” Thompson said of shifting the public meeting earlier next week. “So why not get it to the public?”



January 6 committee chairman: Final public meeting will be Monday and full report will come out December 21 | CNN Politics
 
A Plot To Overturn An American Election
TPM Has Obtained Explosive Evidence Uncovered By The January 6 Select Committee

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The messages you are about to read are the definitive, real-time record of a plot to overturn an American election.
TPM has obtained the 2,319 text messages that Mark Meadows, who was President Trump’s last White House chief of staff, turned over to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. Today, we are publishing The Meadows Texts, a series based on an in-depth analysis of these extraordinary — and disturbing — communications.

The vast majority of Meadows’ texts described in this series are being made public for the very first time. They show the senior-most official in the Trump White House communicating with members of Congress, state-level politicians, and far-right activists as they work feverishly to overturn Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. The Meadows texts illustrate in moment-to-moment detail an authoritarian effort to undermine the will of the people and upend the American democratic system as we know it.

The text messages, obtained from multiple sources, offer new insights into how the assault on the election was rooted in deranged internet paranoia and undemocratic ideology. They show Meadows and other high-level Trump allies reveling in wild conspiracy theories, violent rhetoric, and crackpot legal strategies for refusing to certify Joe Biden’s victory. They expose the previously unknown roles of some members of Congress, local politicians, activists and others in the plot to overturn the election. Now, for the first time, many of those figures will be named and their roles will be described — in their own words.

Meadows turned over the text messages during a brief period of cooperation with the committee before he filed a December 2021 lawsuit arguing that its subpoenas seeking testimony and his phone records were “overly broad” and violations of executive privilege. The committee did not respond to a request for comment on this story. Since then, Meadows has faced losses in his efforts to challenge the subpoena in court. However, that legal battle is ongoing and is unlikely to conclude before next month, when the incoming Republican House majority is widely expected to shutter the committee’s investigation. Earlier this year, Meadows reportedly turned over the same material he gave the select committee to the Justice Department in response to another subpoena. These messages are key evidence in the two major investigations into the Jan. 6 attack. With this series, the American people will be able to evaluate the most important texts for themselves.

Meadows has not, thus far, responded to multiple requests for comment. The texts Meadows provided to the select committee encompass the period from election night in 2020 through President Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20, 2021. It is not clear which, if any, texts Meadows withheld from the committee, but the text message log offers multiple hints it is only a partial record of his conversations. There are discussions that clearly lack prior context and messages where participants indicate there is further communication taking place on encrypted channels.

But despite the seeming gaps, Meadows’ text record is still incredibly revealing. Some of the contents of the log were published in “The Breach,” a book about the Jan. 6 attack that I co-wrote with Denver Riggleman, a former Republican congressman and senior technical adviser to the committee. In our book, Riggleman described how he and his fellow committee investigators dubbed Meadows’ text log “the crown jewels” because they served as the “road map to an insurrection.” Along with the text messages that appeared in “The Breach,” some of Meadows’ messages have also been revealed by media outlets. The Washington Post published his exchanges with Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Some of Meadows’ conversations with Fox News personalities and other members of the media were disclosed by the select committee. CNN and I have published Meadows’ conversations with some Republican members of Congress including; Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY), Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA), and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA). Additionally, CNN has published Meadows’ texts with Fox News personality Sean Hannity and his messages from the period directly surrounding the Jan. 6 attack. However, there’s more. So much more.

TPM is kicking off this series with an exclusive story showing that the log includes more than 450 messages with 34 Republican members of Congress. Those texts show varying degrees of involvement by members of Congress, from largely benign expressions of support for Trump to the leading roles played by Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Jody Hice (R-GA), Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in the plot to reverse Trump’s defeat. We reached out to all these legislators, and will be detailing their roles and responses to our questions in the first installment of the series, which is coming later today.

Committee investigators received the text messages from Meadows’ legal team without names associated with the individual texts, only phone numbers. They tied phone numbers to individuals based on law enforcement databases of public records and their own intelligence work. For these stories, we are relying on the identifications of those texting with Meadows that were made by the committee’s investigators. We have indicated where we were able to independently confirm their work through our own public records searches and reporting. The text message contents received by the committee contained tokens that replaced emojis and certain punctuation. They also include many typos and grammatical errors. Other than replacing tokens where they seemed to clearly be standing in for apostrophes, we have strived to present these texts in their original format as received by the committee. TPM has conducted an in-depth review of Meadows’ entire text log with a team of reporters and editors working over five weeks.

Much of the undemocratic attempt to reverse Trump’s defeat played out in the public eye. Lawyers allied with Trump and his campaign launched a failed legal blitz that sought to challenge the election results based on questionable evidence. Republican politicians and activists staged months of rallies around the country to protest the vote. It all culminated on Jan. 6, 2021, when Trump appeared at a rally on the Ellipse and urged his die-hard supporters to “fight like hell” as his loss was being certified at the U.S. Capitol. Thousands of Trump supporters, including many who marched directly to the Capitol from Trump’s speech, stormed into the building, smashed windows, and fought brutally with law enforcement, leading to multiple deaths and a brief interruption in the electoral certification. That evening, surrounded by National Guard troops and broken glass, 147 Republicans voted to overturn the results

Meadows’ text log shows what the scheme to subvert the 2020 election looked like behind the scenes. It reveals the roots of the violence and its key enablers in Washington. The messages show the plot began well before Jan. 6 and continued afterward. They are essential documentation of a dark day in American history.



The Meadows Texts: A Plot To Overturn An American Election (talkingpointsmemo.com)
 
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