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TPP could be the issue

tpp isn't that different from nafta but they aren't bitching about that. most of um probably don't even know what tpp is, why it exists or what it's supposed to do. they just hear one person saying 'it sucks' then repeat it like it's the cool thing to do.

but even IF tpp was a real issue for um, that's just ONE issue! it's not like the world would instantly become a paradise if tpp didn't exist. and everybody isn't a liberal anyway. there are some moderates in the democratic party for a reason. but these Bernie supporters are lost in some type of cult imo. like there's a purity test and anyone who fails there lil test becomes a hated enemy. fuk that sheit. i'm good on people who holler 'agree with everything I say or suffer my wrath!' nobody will ever get 100% of what they want. why? because the next man/woman may want something else. all politics is in reality is people who can agree to compromise for the greater good. but i'm past giving a fuk really. most Bernie supporters were fake anyway. they weren't Bernie supporters, they were Hillary haters. soon as Bernie said 'let's get behind Hillary and defeat trump' they booed HIS azz :lol:

they got on tv and said 'I only trust bernie' and when reporters said 'well, Bernie is supporting Hillary Clinton and asked his supporters to do the same' they said 'I can't trust that'. :rolleyes:

they're clowns
 
tpp isn't that different from nafta but they aren't bitching about that. most of um probably don't even know what tpp is, why it exists or what it's supposed to do. they just hear one person saying 'it sucks' then repeat it like it's the cool thing to do.

but even IF tpp was a real issue for um, that's just ONE issue! it's not like the world would instantly become a paradise if tpp didn't exist. and everybody isn't a liberal anyway. there are some moderates in the democratic party for a reason. but these Bernie supporters are lost in some type of cult imo. like there's a purity test and anyone who fails there lil test becomes a hated enemy. fuk that sheit. i'm good on people who holler 'agree with everything I say or suffer my wrath!' nobody will ever get 100% of what they want. why? because the next man/woman may want something else. all politics is in reality is people who can agree to compromise for the greater good. but i'm past giving a fuk really. most Bernie supporters were fake anyway. they weren't Bernie supporters, they were Hillary haters. soon as Bernie said 'let's get behind Hillary and defeat trump' they booed HIS azz :lol:

they got on tv and said 'I only trust bernie' and when reporters said 'well, Bernie is supporting Hillary Clinton and asked his supporters to do the same' they said 'I can't trust that'. :rolleyes:

they're clowns
even worse Bernie got Hillary to add anti TPP to the party plank
 
Being from Wilmington, Delaware I'm going to miss Joe dude is as real as real can get. back in the days as governor you could catch him on 9th street market mall chillin talking to folks he and his late son Bo. They were very approachable no bodyguards, no security.. Always loved catching the Amtrak train(shit he was the one who saved it in Delaware)
 
tpp isn't that different from nafta but they aren't bitching about that. most of um probably don't even know what tpp is, why it exists or what it's supposed to do. they just hear one person saying 'it sucks' then repeat it like it's the cool thing to do.

but even IF tpp was a real issue for um, that's just ONE issue! it's not like the world would instantly become a paradise if tpp didn't exist. and everybody isn't a liberal anyway. there are some moderates in the democratic party for a reason. but these Bernie supporters are lost in some type of cult imo. like there's a purity test and anyone who fails there lil test becomes a hated enemy. fuk that sheit. i'm good on people who holler 'agree with everything I say or suffer my wrath!' nobody will ever get 100% of what they want. why? because the next man/woman may want something else. all politics is in reality is people who can agree to compromise for the greater good. but i'm past giving a fuk really. most Bernie supporters were fake anyway. they weren't Bernie supporters, they were Hillary haters. soon as Bernie said 'let's get behind Hillary and defeat trump' they booed HIS azz :lol:

they got on tv and said 'I only trust bernie' and when reporters said 'well, Bernie is supporting Hillary Clinton and asked his supporters to do the same' they said 'I can't trust that'. :rolleyes:

they're clowns

I've heard more than one Bernie bot saying the TPP will send jobs to China when the entire point of the TPP is to block China. It is literally an anti-China treaty.
 
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The co author of the "Art of the deal" Tony swartz was laayyying into Trump this morning. Says hes extremely overly emotional, has the attention span of a 2 year old, is a pathological liar, attention whore etc. Says he actually created the phrase "truthful hyperbole" in the art of the deal to help make his lies more digestible
 
I have mixed feelings. I really hate to see black pain on display for others to consume, but I think their stories need to be heard. If they were not given space then Hillary doesn't care, if she does she's pandering. BLM is seen as illegitimate by many so ultimately giving them a national platform legitimizes them more with the authority of the DNC and hopefully future next president behind them. Also Republicans watch this as well as an international audience, children included. It helps to change the narrative to our favor. So I think the pros outweigh the cons, but I don't like feeling as though the burden is upon us to humanize us in their eyes.

Mothers of the movement aren't a part of BLM. They're safe alternative that focuses on gun control rather than police killing black people. They're helping her change the subject so she can ignore the problem. We should expect the same strategies when she's elected
 
Mothers of the movement aren't a part of BLM. They're safe alternative that focuses on gun control rather than police killing black people. They're helping her change the subject so she can ignore the problem. We should expect the same strategies when she's elected


Thanks I didn't know that, and I don't think the average viewer would have either. I haven't had a chance to actually watch their presentation though, so I don't know if they made that distinction on stage.
 
even worse Bernie got Hillary to add anti TPP to the party plank
. The problem with trade deals comes in when the worker protection on our end aren't matched with funding for those displaced workers and areas. The companies are given a free reign to pillage. The worker protection and locality protection in this country is the problem.

Corporations have a right to screw employees over.
 
One good speech doesn't erase his track record. It's way to easy to impress us. Why work for our votes when you can just sing some Al Green or give a great sermon lol

Do you blame them? Seriously. It's like taking candy from a baby. Bill, Obama, and Hillary have proven that the black demographic is the easiest to exploit in America. Even those uneducated cacs who support republicans aren't this easy to manipulate and that's saying a lot. :smh:
 
Do you blame them? Seriously. It's like taking candy from a baby. Bill, Obama, and Hillary have proven that the black demographic is the easiest to exploit in America. Even those uneducated cacs who support republicans aren't this easy to manipulate and that's saying a lot. :smh:
Shit is crazy and sad at the same time. :smh:
 
tpp isn't that different from nafta but they aren't bitching about that. most of um probably don't even know what tpp is, why it exists or what it's supposed to do. they just hear one person saying 'it sucks' then repeat it like it's the cool thing to do.

but even IF tpp was a real issue for um, that's just ONE issue! it's not like the world would instantly become a paradise if tpp didn't exist. and everybody isn't a liberal anyway. there are some moderates in the democratic party for a reason. but these Bernie supporters are lost in some type of cult imo. like there's a purity test and anyone who fails there lil test becomes a hated enemy. fuk that sheit. i'm good on people who holler 'agree with everything I say or suffer my wrath!' nobody will ever get 100% of what they want. why? because the next man/woman may want something else. all politics is in reality is people who can agree to compromise for the greater good. but i'm past giving a fuk really. most Bernie supporters were fake anyway. they weren't Bernie supporters, they were Hillary haters. soon as Bernie said 'let's get behind Hillary and defeat trump' they booed HIS azz :lol:

they got on tv and said 'I only trust bernie' and when reporters said 'well, Bernie is supporting Hillary Clinton and asked his supporters to do the same' they said 'I can't trust that'. :rolleyes:

they're clowns

Remember SOPA - the "copyright" legislation before Congress last year that public outcry stopped cold? Well, the same corporations behind SOPA have pushed to insert its most pernicious provisions into TPP. Says who? The organizations that stopped SOPA like the Electronic Freedom Foundation and the ACLU.
Under TPP, Internet Service Providers could be required to "police" user activity (i.e. police YOU), take down internet content, and cut people off from internet access for common user-generated content.
Violations could be as simple as the creation of a YouTube video with clips from other videos, even if for personal or educational purposes.
Mandatory fines would be imposed for individuals' non-commercial copies of copyrighted material. So, downloading some music could be treated the same as large-scale, for-profit copyright violations.
Innovation would be stifled as the creation and sharing of user-generated content would face new barriers, and as monopoly copyrights would be extended. The TPP extends copyright terms for six of the 12 negotiating countries by another 20 years.
Breaking digital locks for legit purposes, such as using Linux, could subject users to mandatory fines. Blind and deaf people also would be harmed by this overreach, as digital locks can block access to audio-supported content and closed captioning.

Medicine will cost more....
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...payers-millions-more-in-secret-tpp-trade-deal


Medicines will cost Australian taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars more each year if measures in a leaked draft of the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement are implemented, a new report says.

The most recently leaked draft of the international trade deal includes provisions proposed by the US that would further protect the monopoly pharmaceutical companies hold over drugs, and delay cheaper versions from entering the market, the Medical Journal of Australia report says.

The draft agreement sets in stone low patenting standards which allow drug companies to practice “evergreening” – when a pharmaceutical company tries to maintain its market monopoly on a drug for longer by applying for extra patents.

This prevents other companies entering the market with cheaper versions of the same medicine and imposes large and unnecessary costs on the health system and consumers, the report, published on Monday, said.


The Trans-Pacific Partnership Is Unlikely to Be a Good Deal for American Workers
Report • By Josh Bivens • April 16, 2015

http://www.epi.org/publication/tpp-unlikely-to-be-good-deal-for-american-workers/


  • Recent claims that a strong currency provision in the TPP would be impossible to craft without impinging on the Federal Reserve’s ability to undertake expansionary monetary policy to fight recessions are clearly wrong.
  • Expanded trade, particularly with trading partners that are poorer and more labor-abundant than the United States, is likely to lower the wages of most American workers. While expanded trade is generally “win-win” at the country level, expanded trade redistributes so much income within countries that it’s possible to make the majority of residents worse off—and this is indeed the likeliest scenario for the United States.
  • TPP proponents who highlight the treaty’s estimated net national gains while ignoring its likely regressive distributional outcomes are hiding the ball from policymakers. The net national gains from trade have the exact same root as the regressive distributional outcomes—they both stem from reshuffling of domestic production away from labor-intensive import-competing sectors—and you cannot have one without the other.
  • Some TPP supporters claim the agreement will be “all gain, no pain” for American workers because U.S. tariffs are already low while trading partners’ tariffs are higher. These arguments are economically incoherent. In fact, studies that show the TPP will increase overall American national income also show that it will cause substantial reshuffling of domestic production away from labor-intensive import-competing sectors. This will clearly inflict damage on large groups (probably the majority) of American workers.
  • The wage losses to workers on the wrong end of expanded trade are almost surely larger (in percentage terms) than the estimated net national gains from the TPP. Specifically, if the TPP would indeed boost national income by 0.4 percent while boosting imports and exports by 0.6 percent of GDP by 2025, as a widely cited estimate claims, this would imply a loss to wages of non-college-educated workers of between 0.4 and 0.6 percent.
  • Further, this widely cited estimate’s ratio between estimated income gainsstemming from the TPP and estimated increases in trade flows is deeply inconsistent with standard models relating these two variables. It is even inconsistent with the findings of other studies on trade liberalization’s impact on incomes that show trade having particularly large income-boosting effects.
  • These widely cited estimates of the TPP’s effect on income and trade imply that every dollar of imports spurred by reducing trade costs in the TPP will increasenational income by more than a dollar. This is an extraordinarily large effect. Standard models imply that every dollar of imports boosted by reduced trade barriers should boost national incomes by only 5–10 cents.
 
even worse Bernie got Hillary to add anti TPP to the party plank

last I knew (as of a few days ago) was that the anti tpp provision was the only thing that Bernie didn't get added, and that he was happy with the 90% he did get. u have a source or link for him getting anti tpp added to the party platform? :dunno:
 
The co author of the "Art of the deal" Tony swartz was laayyying into Trump this morning. Says hes extremely overly emotional, has the attention span of a 2 year old, is a pathological liar, attention whore etc. Says he actually created the phrase "truthful hyperbole" in the art of the deal to help make his lies more digestible
saw the same interview. Dude laid into trump.

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Found the vid

 
Oh shit, they got Rev. Barber speaking :lol: Dude is Al Sharpton 2.o That Duke Lacrosse stripper was his Tawana Brawley. I give him credit he has been putting in work against the racist GOP here in NC for the past 2 years.
 
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