Do you think it is a copout or is there merit to it?
The TRADITIONAL VIEW:
The RED PILLED (???) VIEW:
Is Marriage OUTDATED and ANTI-MAN?
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Do you think it is a copout or is there merit to it?
The TRADITIONAL VIEW:
The RED PILLED (???) VIEW:
No and yes.
It's a business contract for many. The idea of marriage is cool, I guess.
But the meaning of marriage isn't as traditional as it use to be.
It's a business contract for many. The idea of marriage is cool, I guess.
But the meaning of marriage isn't as traditional as it use to be.
To me the problem is not marriage, but why people get married. Too many people get married for the dumbest of reasons. In this day and age, if you not feeling marriage there is absolutely no reason to get married. If two people are truly down with marriage and all the up and downs associated with it, then go for it.
Marriage is for two people of equal means and minds, wanting to coexist and procreate. No man with substantially more than the woman he desires should marry said woman. A bitch isn't built or conditioned to do so, so why should you. You make 6 figures and this bitch serve wings...
The prenup barely covers your ass, so even with that shit signed and notarized, she can put a foot in your ass with it all ends. Nobody should marry before age 30. He or she is about at their midlife weight and you have some gauge of if they are gonna be fucking huge in a few years. You can't tell that shit at 20. That way they fully understand having good credit, they are done clubbing and hopefully hoeing, they've established themselves career-wise and has some outlook on life that is their own. Know the laws in your state, always consider a prenup, though easily rendered worthless, some is better than none. A woman or man who made it to age 30 with no kids has shown some level of discipline, barring the abortion or miscarriage some hoes from themselves. By 30 you know if you are gonna go to church or not, or if you even believe this shit at all. You own a crib, she owns a crib, you marry now you have immediate or potential rental income when you combine households. I'll stop there, but don't rush, and stop saving hoes because THAT is what judges look at when they slide your house and 401k up out from under you.
The prenup barely covers your ass, so even with that shit signed and notarized, she can put a foot in your ass with it all ends. Nobody should marry before age 30. He or she is about at their midlife weight and you have some gauge of if they are gonna be fucking huge in a few years. You can't tell that shit at 20. That way they fully understand having good credit, they are done clubbing and hopefully hoeing, they've established themselves career-wise and has some outlook on life that is their own. Know the laws in your state, always consider a prenup, though easily rendered worthless, some is better than none. A woman or man who made it to age 30 with no kids has shown some level of discipline, barring the abortion or miscarriage some hoes from themselves. By 30 you know if you are gonna go to church or not, or if you even believe this shit at all. You own a crib, she owns a crib, you marry now you have immediate or potential rental income when you combine households. I'll stop there, but don't rush, and stop saving hoes because THAT is what judges look at when they slide your house and 401k up out from under you.
Here we go again. 
I am too selfish to get married on American soil (bad business decision), but love sexy ass women and new, young pussy to0 much to be MGTOW.
I am too selfish to get married on American soil (bad business decision), but love sexy ass women and new, young pussy to0 much to be MGTOW.
Here we go again.
I am to selfish to get married on American soil (bad business decision), but love sexy ass women and new, young pussy to0 much to be MGTOW.
It's definitely a business decision.
Marriage is for two people of equal means and minds, wanting to coexist and procreate. No man with substantially more than the woman he desires should marry said woman. A bitch isn't built or conditioned to do so, so why should you. You make 6 figures and this bitch serve wings...
Highlighted in bold......I totally agree with!
Marriage has been outdated for a long time. Unless you're marrying for combined resources there's no real reason for a man to submit to it. Everything a man wants from a woman he can get without being married: Sex, companionship, children, domestic services, emotional support, etc. These used to be the things that women would only share with her husband. With feminism women wanted the freedom to share these things on their own terms and that's where we're at now. A successful man can purchase or lease all of that. So why give women the leverage of the courts and get married?
THIS MUTHA'FUCKA' PREACHIN'!!!
What leverage do women have, the days of men being the bread winner of the family are long gone, so in a divorce the man will most likley to be the one who comes out on top. But this is bgol where everyone is a millionaire and have millions to lose in a divorce.
Not another one of these threads 
Marriage will always be an excellent thing.
Grown people don't consult a youtube vid or sway back and forth. Either u get married as a well adjust whole adult and grow older together or u don't.
All u can do is guide and instill a positive path for the next and U and urs that's all that matters.
Grown people don't consult a youtube vid or sway back and forth. Either u get married as a well adjust whole adult and grow older together or u don't.
All u can do is guide and instill a positive path for the next and U and urs that's all that matters.
Like Dave Chappelle said, marriage is a cruel contract that no one should sign.
I'm only 5 yrs in and I agree with that statement 100%. As hard as I was going to "get married", it truly was unnecessary and only put us in greater confinement...me in particular. Wifey and I have all but removed the term and its "rules" from our lives as best we can. I see it now as nothing but a scam....a losing game that costs a shitload more especially if you're black. As Neely Fuller said, if you're black you could never truly be "married" anyway...
I'm only 5 yrs in and I agree with that statement 100%. As hard as I was going to "get married", it truly was unnecessary and only put us in greater confinement...me in particular. Wifey and I have all but removed the term and its "rules" from our lives as best we can. I see it now as nothing but a scam....a losing game that costs a shitload more especially if you're black. As Neely Fuller said, if you're black you could never truly be "married" anyway...
The laws need to be revised. They were established when woman could not support themselves in the American economy.
That's no longer the case and women are taking advantage of the system
That's no longer the case and women are taking advantage of the system
Not true, the only time a woman can take advantage of the system these day is if her standard of livings drops due to the divorce, which you hear a lot with celebrity divorce. But for regular folks with two working spouses no one gets special treatment
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Breh u only 5 years in Props for that. Its your mindset that determines your outcome. If u hate getting up and working everyday work will be hell no matter if its the office or outside hanging up electric wire.
Fuck Neeley Fuller. I wish i would follow another muthafuckas mantra like its law. U imprison yourself taking on the mindset and poisoning your mind listening to these "scholars" yet brehs cry about folks who attend Church. Its still brain washing even on red,black and green tube.
Could you elaborate brother? Im a year in a half in this and I kind of feel the same way you do.
Marriage is one of those things that you never really know what's it like until you do it. I don't give a fuck how many books you read,YouTube videos you watch, nothing prepares you for this shit. That's why I finally understood what people meant by "you have to work at it"...
Also it was funny how when I was telling married people that Im about to get married the women (wives) were so fucking excited but the men (husbands) was excited bout as much as Kawi Leonard lol.... Now I understand why
Marriage is for folks that want to be married.
There are a shitload of Black women with degrees, careers and a high credit score.
Why are brothers complaining about the financial risks of marriage if they are marrying these well rounded sistas?
Because they ain't.
Too many folks marry in order to trap their spouse.
Long Term Tricking in effect.
Dudes using their money and lifestyle to trap of chick they know they probably couldn't have if they were broke.
Chicks using their attractiveness to trap a dude they know they probably couldn't have if they were less attractive.
Most folks ain't marrying they are actually long term tricking.
There are a shitload of Black women with degrees, careers and a high credit score.
Why are brothers complaining about the financial risks of marriage if they are marrying these well rounded sistas?
Because they ain't.
Too many folks marry in order to trap their spouse.
Long Term Tricking in effect.
Dudes using their money and lifestyle to trap of chick they know they probably couldn't have if they were broke.
Chicks using their attractiveness to trap a dude they know they probably couldn't have if they were less attractive.
Most folks ain't marrying they are actually long term tricking.
I think the concept of marriage of the modern era should definitely be rethought. Long before the romantic idea of marriage..the concept was always as part of some business arrangement..either for alliance or more land etc. The romantic notion of a man and woman getting married purely for love has always been secondary if considered at all for MOST of the history of marriage.
Back a few decades ago if people got married for business reasons...ie healthcare or career goal purposes, green card or even as beards and skirts people called those "marriages of convenience" and looked down on people for doing that...but those unions are at least honest and upfront about WHY theyre doing it. Romantic interests can wane...shit you got the groom saying I do while looking at the bridemaid he wants to fuck in a broom closet after the ceremony. That means he's not taking what he's doing seriously..who's fault is that???
Both parties have a responsibility as well to what they bring to the marriage and expectation and ideas..
A lot of dudes go into a relationship making all kinds of promises and implied promises then act the fool once the wedding is over. Just check some of the responses here talking bout yeah the women are happy after divorce because they leave with "bag of money" as if the man is the innocent victim in all of this.
What they fail to realize is that wedding ceremony is a public declaration of the terms of the marriage contract (the vows) specify the conditions of your relationship.
Pastor to Groom -- Do you promise to love, to cherish, to honor to protect, forsaking all others, in sickness as well as in health. In adversity as well as in prosperity. For better or for worse, and to cleave only to her so long as you both shall live?
The vows are a CONTRACT, a VERBAL AGREEMENT, a PUBLIC PLEDGE and the bolded words are specific details that spell out your responsibilities to your spouse...this is why a WITNESS must be present. This is why God is mentioned as the one who you making these promises under.
And the problem in this thread and in our society is that cats think that those vows are just a lip service formality and theyre still free to do whatever they want as long as they financially take care of the woman. If you go into business with someone and you have a CONTRACT that spell out both your responsibilities to the business and the other person VIOLATES EVEN ONE OF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT you can SUE them for that and get monetary compensation for the BREACH.
Thats what american divorce is. Thats what ALIMONY is. Its a LEGAL proceeding to determine who violated their agreement and how the injured party should be COMPENSATED for that violation of their CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
Now thats the LEGAL aspect..the other is simply...a man's word is suppose to be his bond. Thats called honor. As Omar put it. "A man's gotta have a code.."
If she violates the terms of the deal you can divorce her..not all divorces end with alimony going to her.
So to answer the question is marriage outdated....YES there needs to a modification to the standard contract (vows) and people need to understand that getting married is as serious as getting divorced.
Back a few decades ago if people got married for business reasons...ie healthcare or career goal purposes, green card or even as beards and skirts people called those "marriages of convenience" and looked down on people for doing that...but those unions are at least honest and upfront about WHY theyre doing it. Romantic interests can wane...shit you got the groom saying I do while looking at the bridemaid he wants to fuck in a broom closet after the ceremony. That means he's not taking what he's doing seriously..who's fault is that???
Both parties have a responsibility as well to what they bring to the marriage and expectation and ideas..
A lot of dudes go into a relationship making all kinds of promises and implied promises then act the fool once the wedding is over. Just check some of the responses here talking bout yeah the women are happy after divorce because they leave with "bag of money" as if the man is the innocent victim in all of this.
What they fail to realize is that wedding ceremony is a public declaration of the terms of the marriage contract (the vows) specify the conditions of your relationship.
Pastor to Groom -- Do you promise to love, to cherish, to honor to protect, forsaking all others, in sickness as well as in health. In adversity as well as in prosperity. For better or for worse, and to cleave only to her so long as you both shall live?
The vows are a CONTRACT, a VERBAL AGREEMENT, a PUBLIC PLEDGE and the bolded words are specific details that spell out your responsibilities to your spouse...this is why a WITNESS must be present. This is why God is mentioned as the one who you making these promises under.
And the problem in this thread and in our society is that cats think that those vows are just a lip service formality and theyre still free to do whatever they want as long as they financially take care of the woman. If you go into business with someone and you have a CONTRACT that spell out both your responsibilities to the business and the other person VIOLATES EVEN ONE OF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT you can SUE them for that and get monetary compensation for the BREACH.
Thats what american divorce is. Thats what ALIMONY is. Its a LEGAL proceeding to determine who violated their agreement and how the injured party should be COMPENSATED for that violation of their CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
Now thats the LEGAL aspect..the other is simply...a man's word is suppose to be his bond. Thats called honor. As Omar put it. "A man's gotta have a code.."
If she violates the terms of the deal you can divorce her..not all divorces end with alimony going to her.
So to answer the question is marriage outdated....YES there needs to a modification to the standard contract (vows) and people need to understand that getting married is as serious as getting divorced.
A marriage license should be like any other license. It should be granted on a certain date and at that moment be also issued an expiration date. This way you can renew your license if you would like to but you can also let the license lapse if you want to. 5 year marriage license.
Marriage is not a bad thing, Its just that Damn contract that fouls everything up. Also I don't think that it's meant for a man have 1 wife, it's meant for you to have at least three or more.
Whoa you must be a miserable person. Does this mean that you have an open relationship? If so, pics?
Shiesty
Well, My folks been Happily married for 45 years....I'm Happily married to the woman i've been with for the past 11 years straight, so no, I don't think it's outdated.
I do think its one of the most important decisions you will make in your life and you shouldn't a) rush it b) do it too young or c) do it for the stupid, shallow reasons. Also make sure you both have similar values/mindsets -- ie. if you're an entreprenuer you can't be with a lazy bitch or one that's a strict 9-5 mentality.
I do think its one of the most important decisions you will make in your life and you shouldn't a) rush it b) do it too young or c) do it for the stupid, shallow reasons. Also make sure you both have similar values/mindsets -- ie. if you're an entreprenuer you can't be with a lazy bitch or one that's a strict 9-5 mentality.
So you cool with your main girl have two side pieces?
You are approaching that question from a viewpoint in which you think men and women are equal in that way and WE ARE NOT.....So no I would not be cool with it and that is how nature intented it not me.....that equality bullshit "she can do anything a man can do" is the reason why shit so screwed up in the workplace and at home. Women are built for different reasons than men, That's why nature will ALWAYS supply more women than men....think about it.....nature doesn't have feelings bruh, sorry.
if you want to talk about nature a woman can out fuck any man. You couldn't fuck 3 women and satisfy them fully but you girl could and you wouldn't even know. So in that case maybe women should be allowed to have multiple partners right?
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