Is Marriage OUTDATED and ANTI-MAN?

if you want to talk about nature a woman can out fuck any man. You couldn't fuck 3 women and satisfy them fully but you girl could and you wouldn't even know. So in that case maybe women should be allowed to have multiple partners right?

Sure, she can have multiple partners and out "fuck" me Lmao......but the reason behind having sex is not about the pleasure principle which is a treat for us to procreate but mainly biological imperative to have children for continuity of species so we don't die out.....your feelings of equality is not a factor in this equation thus she can not out POLLINATE ME.
 
What leverage do women have, the days of men being the bread winner of the family are long gone, so in a divorce the man will most likley to be the one who comes out on top. But this is bgol where everyone is a millionaire and have millions to lose in a divorce.
Then why bother going through all that shit? Divorces cost money that you would not have to pay if you had not intertwined your life with the cracka's court system. It really is just that simple for me. Every avenue that leads you to marriage is just another scheme put in place by whites somewhere in history. We may be totally submerged in white western culture, but in the few places I can avoid their influence I take full advantage. Obviously you're pro marriage. Have at it. But can you please tell me what you got from you wife that you couldn't have gotten while ya'll were just dating?
 
Like Dave Chappelle said, marriage is a cruel contract that no one should sign.

I'm only 5 yrs in and I agree with that statement 100%. As hard as I was going to "get married", it truly was unnecessary and only put us in greater confinement...me in particular. Wifey and I have all but removed the term and its "rules" from our lives as best we can. I see it now as nothing but a scam....a losing game that costs a shitload more especially if you're black. As Neely Fuller said, if you're black you could never truly be "married" anyway...
How did you get scammed?
 
Marriage will always be an excellent thing.
Grown people don't consult a youtube vid or sway back and forth. Either u get married as a well adjust whole adult and grow older together or u don't.

All u can do is guide and instill a positive path for the next and U and urs that's all that matters.
Wow, a grown and sensible statement on BGOL. Watch out, you might get stoned.
 
Then why bother going through all that shit? Divorces cost money that you would not have to pay if you had not intertwined your life with the cracka's court system. It really is just that simple for me. Every avenue that leads you to marriage is just another scheme put in place by whites somewhere in history. We may be totally submerged in white western culture, but in the few places I can avoid their influence I take full advantage. Obviously you're pro marriage. Have at it. But can you please tell me what you got from you wife that you couldn't have gotten while ya'll were just dating?

punitive measures in divorce isn't mandatory...
 
Then why bother going through all that shit? Divorces cost money that you would not have to pay if you had not intertwined your life with the cracka's court system. It really is just that simple for me. Every avenue that leads you to marriage is just another scheme put in place by whites somewhere in history. We may be totally submerged in white western culture, but in the few places I can avoid their influence I take full advantage. Obviously you're pro marriage. Have at it. But can you please tell me what you got from you wife that you couldn't have gotten while ya'll were just dating?
My family.
 
Then why bother going through all that shit? Divorces cost money that you would not have to pay if you had not intertwined your life with the cracka's court system. It really is just that simple for me. Every avenue that leads you to marriage is just another scheme put in place by whites somewhere in history. We may be totally submerged in white western culture, but in the few places I can avoid their influence I take full advantage. Obviously you're pro marriage. Have at it. But can you please tell me what you got from you wife that you couldn't have gotten while ya'll were just dating?
You can get divorced for less than $500. I know most cats here own multiple ocean side properties so it will cost more, but for the average marriage with two working couple who can agree to sell the house and split the profit or one can keep the house it is not expensive at all. Don't base realistic expectations off the lives of celebrities.
 
Marriage is for two people of equal means and minds, wanting to coexist and procreate. No man with substantially more than the woman he desires should marry said woman. A bitch isn't built or conditioned to do so, so why should you. You make 6 figures and this bitch serve wings...:smh::smh::smh: The prenup barely covers your ass, so even with that shit signed and notarized, she can put a foot in your ass with it all ends. Nobody should marry before age 30. He or she is about at their midlife weight and you have some gauge of if they are gonna be fucking huge in a few years. You can't tell that shit at 20. That way they fully understand having good credit, they are done clubbing and hopefully hoeing, they've established themselves career-wise and has some outlook on life that is their own. Know the laws in your state, always consider a prenup, though easily rendered worthless, some is better than none. A woman or man who made it to age 30 with no kids has shown some level of discipline, barring the abortion or miscarriage some hoes from themselves. By 30 you know if you are gonna go to church or not, or if you even believe this shit at all. You own a crib, she owns a crib, you marry now you have immediate or potential rental income when you combine households. I'll stop there, but don't rush, and stop saving hoes because THAT is what judges look at when they slide your house and 401k up out from under you.


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You can get divorced for less than $500. I know most cats here own multiple ocean side properties so it will cost more, but for the average marriage with two working couple who can agree to sell the house and split the profit or one can keep the house it is not expensive at all. Don't base realistic expectations off the lives of celebrities.
You're a serial optimist! When was the last time you saw an amicable split in a divorce? :lol::lol::lol:I tell you what brother, you keep doing the married thing and I'll keep doing the single thing. We'll both have the same thing in the end, oh but you'll be out $500!
 
You're a serial optimist! When was the last time you saw an amicable split in a divorce? :lol::lol::lol:I tell you what brother, you keep doing the married thing and I'll keep doing the single thing. We'll both have the same thing in the end, oh but you'll be out $500!
you realize if you have kids with a chick you STILL have to pay child support regardless if youre married or not....right.
 
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Well, My folks been Happily married for 45 years....I'm Happily married to the woman i've been with for the past 11 years straight, so no, I don't think it's outdated.

I do think its one of the most important decisions you will make in your life and you shouldn't a) rush it b) do it too young or c) do it for the stupid, shallow reasons. Also make sure you both have similar values/mindsets -- ie. if you're an entrepreneur you can't be with a lazy bitch or one that's a strict 9-5 mentality.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM! Found that underlined part out the hard way and you are 100% correct!
 
Like Dave Chappelle said, marriage is a cruel contract that no one should sign.

I'm only 5 yrs in and I agree with that statement 100%. As hard as I was going to "get married", it truly was unnecessary and only put us in greater confinement...me in particular. Wifey and I have all but removed the term and its "rules" from our lives as best we can. I see it now as nothing but a scam....a losing game that costs a shitload more especially if you're black. As Neely Fuller said, if you're black you could never truly be "married" anyway...


No disrespect to U or Yours but fuck Neely fuller. Yall kill me quoting duke like he's yall Pops or uncle u never had. dude talks in circles and im sure is miserable as hell .
 
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I lean to think marriage is outmoded.
I don't see the benefit in it anymore.
When we farmed, you needed a large family to work those lands.
 
I will say is people don’t understand marriage vows and what they mean. Here are some marriage vows:

I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded (husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.

What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.<—-
(don’t minimize that. There are folks that don’t want to see y’all happy. Love makes people jealous especially if the meddling person isn’t getting any or isn’t happy. Keep those folks away from your marriage.)

Folks don’t understand those vows. I don’t think folks should say vows and if you do be upfront. You get sick...I am out. You go broke...I am out. Marriage is hard work, but if you take the time to put in that work it is very fulfilling. This life is hard and what better than to have your best friend to lean on during the hard times.


The one thing I found to be true is when you decide to marry — look at your soon to be wife’s family. If her parents aren’t married...If she comes from a one parent household...If her father was absent in her life...If her father abused any family members verbally/sexually/mentally. Those factors may lead to big issues within your marriage, so be prepared. Never say no to marriage counseling if issues arise you can’t work out. Make sure the counselor you choose both of you are in agreement and are willing to work on the issue. In the end it will make your family stronger. This advise is for women too. The same rules apply.
 
I will say is people don’t understand marriage vows and what they mean. Here are some marriage vows:

I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded (husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.

What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.<—-
(don’t minimize that. There are folks that don’t want to see y’all happy. Love makes people jealous especially if the meddling person isn’t getting any or isn’t happy. Keep those folks away from your marriage.)

Folks don’t understand those vows. I don’t think folks should say vows and if you do be upfront. You get sick...I am out. You go broke...I am out. Marriage is hard work, but if you take the time to put in that work it is very fulfilling. This life is hard and what better than to have your best friend to lean on during the hard times.


The one thing I found to be true is when you decide to marry — look at your soon to be wife’s family. If her parents aren’t married...If she comes from a one parent household...If her father was absent in her life...If her father abused any family members verbally/sexually/mentally. Those factors may lead to big issues within your marriage, so be prepared. Never say no to marriage counseling if issues arise you can’t work out. Make sure the counselor you choose both of you are in agreement and are willing to work on the issue. In the end it will make your family stronger. This advise is for women too. The same rules apply.

Marriage Counseling and being honest within yourself and your future partner. Individuals these days aren't checking for positive role models. Look at this board folks nag and bitch about the bottom 10% of fuck ups and paint a broad brush like everyone is like that. I know mad elders black,white etc family or not I ask questions. They've given me the same answer Keep God first and work every damn day , don't hold grudges . Remember to check in and stay best friends. Keep positive consul around.
 
Geez, if you don't want to get married, then don't fucking get married... :dunno:
Although I find that most dudes who have this "crisis" are generally:

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Interesting. Most men I know are married did so because they didn't have options and couldn't get regular cut. Especially if you're under 30. Older heads get a pass because they have that obligation and tradition brainwashed in them.
 
I think the concept of marriage of the modern era should definitely be rethought. Long before the romantic idea of marriage..the concept was always as part of some business arrangement..either for alliance or more land etc. The romantic notion of a man and woman getting married purely for love has always been secondary if considered at all for MOST of the history of marriage.

Back a few decades ago if people got married for business reasons...ie healthcare or career goal purposes, green card or even as beards and skirts people called those "marriages of convenience" and looked down on people for doing that...but those unions are at least honest and upfront about WHY theyre doing it. Romantic interests can wane...shit you got the groom saying I do while looking at the bridemaid he wants to fuck in a broom closet after the ceremony. That means he's not taking what he's doing seriously..who's fault is that???

Both parties have a responsibility as well to what they bring to the marriage and expectation and ideas..

A lot of dudes go into a relationship making all kinds of promises and implied promises then act the fool once the wedding is over. Just check some of the responses here talking bout yeah the women are happy after divorce because they leave with "bag of money" as if the man is the innocent victim in all of this.

What they fail to realize is that wedding ceremony is a public declaration of the terms of the marriage contract (the vows) specify the conditions of your relationship.

Pastor to Groom -- Do you promise to love, to cherish, to honor to protect, forsaking all others, in sickness as well as in health. In adversity as well as in prosperity. For better or for worse, and to cleave only to her so long as you both shall live?

The vows are a CONTRACT, a VERBAL AGREEMENT, a PUBLIC PLEDGE and the bolded words are specific details that spell out your responsibilities to your spouse...this is why a WITNESS must be present. This is why God is mentioned as the one who you making these promises under.

And the problem in this thread and in our society is that cats think that those vows are just a lip service formality and theyre still free to do whatever they want as long as they financially take care of the woman. If you go into business with someone and you have a CONTRACT that spell out both your responsibilities to the business and the other person VIOLATES EVEN ONE OF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT you can SUE them for that and get monetary compensation for the BREACH.

Thats what american divorce is. Thats what ALIMONY is. Its a LEGAL proceeding to determine who violated their agreement and how the injured party should be COMPENSATED for that violation of their CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

Now thats the LEGAL aspect..the other is simply...a man's word is suppose to be his bond. Thats called honor. As Omar put it. "A man's gotta have a code.."

If she violates the terms of the deal you can divorce her..not all divorces end with alimony going to her.


So to answer the question is marriage outdated....YES there needs to a modification to the standard contract (vows) and people need to understand that getting married is as serious as getting divorced.


I agree. That the idea of marriage needs to be modified. If you do get married it has to be with some who honestly gives a fuck about your well-being and vise versa. It can't just be all about romance, though romance is a factor. Both parties have to be willing to grow with each other (mentally & emotionally) and everything else will fall into place. Me and my wife were friends way before we started dating. My motto is the dick is never free. I made a conscious decision to really get to know her before we started dating. As a man, in marriage you have the opportunity to steer it in the direction you want it to go. The man should be utilizing his wife in areas he knows he is weak in. That's what she is there for and vise versa in order for both of parties to excel in their life endeavors.

The problem is most people don't understand this concept about marriage.

I work in a industry where I am surrounded and work with beautiful women 24/7 but at the end of the day my soul knows that no woman could ever take my eyes or mind off of what's at home.

I find that women are beast at success, esp. in career growth, just like the lioness that kills for the tribe. Your duty as a man is to keep your woman focused of the prize (and not her emotions) so she can make the kill. Once you actually take the time to nurture/grome her and most of all be patient with her in her growth, your will find that she will be your deadliest & loyal weapon in life. Women want to be this for men.

The EGO or whatever you call it has to go first and foremost (yours and hers). All that matters is you and her getting to where y'all want to be together. If a man instills that in his female's brain, she will literally help you get anything you want and do anything you want.

Dude, u will have no choice but to want to only want fuck with her. You'd be a fool not to.
 
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Then why bother going through all that shit? Divorces cost money that you would not have to pay if you had not intertwined your life with the cracka's court system. It really is just that simple for me. Every avenue that leads you to marriage is just another scheme put in place by whites somewhere in history. We may be totally submerged in white western culture, but in the few places I can avoid their influence I take full advantage. Obviously you're pro marriage. Have at it. But can you please tell me what you got from you wife that you couldn't have gotten while ya'll were just dating?
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I will say is people don’t understand marriage vows and what they mean. Here are some marriage vows:

I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded (husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.

What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.<—-
(don’t minimize that. There are folks that don’t want to see y’all happy. Love makes people jealous especially if the meddling person isn’t getting any or isn’t happy. Keep those folks away from your marriage.)

Folks don’t understand those vows. I don’t think folks should say vows and if you do be upfront. You get sick...I am out. You go broke...I am out. Marriage is hard work, but if you take the time to put in that work it is very fulfilling. This life is hard and what better than to have your best friend to lean on during the hard times.


The one thing I found to be true is when you decide to marry — look at your soon to be wife’s family. If her parents aren’t married...If she comes from a one parent household...If her father was absent in her life...If her father abused any family members verbally/sexually/mentally. Those factors may lead to big issues within your marriage, so be prepared. Never say no to marriage counseling if issues arise you can’t work out. Make sure the counselor you choose both of you are in agreement and are willing to work on the issue. In the end it will make your family stronger. This advise is for women too. The same rules apply.
 
Marriage is not so much outdated as it is unneeded. Marriage has always been about property and contracts Its how the rich and powerful stayed rich and powerful. Its also how the poor stayed poor. If marriage is now Anti-man its just the wheel going round because marriage as practice in American culture has been anti-woman pretty much forever. Woman for the longest time were almost forced into marriage because of limited economic opportunities. At one time it was the only way they could legally hold property. Now that things have changed the law still treats marriage in some states like its the 19th century.

I'd tell anyone who was considering marriage if they didn't already have one get a Pet. Something like a cat or dog. If you can't handle the responsibility of a cat or dog forget marriage. I'd also say when considering marriage always think the worst because its that shit that is most likely to happen. Its that shit you need to prepare and plan for. Talk over those dooms day scenarios and see where you're with your potential spouse. Always remember there are other ways to live your life. Don't let modern society brow beat you into marriage.
 
You can get divorced for less than $500. I know most cats here own multiple ocean side properties so it will cost more, but for the average marriage with two working couple who can agree to sell the house and split the profit or one can keep the house it is not expensive at all. Don't base realistic expectations off the lives of celebrities.

When my wife and I split we decided to hold off the divorce until one or both of us were ready to remarry. We stayed estranged for about 7 years, then once i got engaged we were able to get the forms and instructions from a self help book. All it cost was $250 for the joint filing fee. Neither of us had any real assets and we already had informal visitation and child support agreements for the kids. It was just a matter of formalizing everything.
 
I think the point being made is that "state-sponsored" marriage is what the OP is against. Not the actual vows between two people in general.

The post above mine states that it "only" cost $250 for the joint filing fee. The state getting ANY money from your union (or severance from it) is what some people may take issue with.

The joining of two people making vows in front of family is one thing. The state profiting is another.
 
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Here we go again. :rolleyes2:

I am too selfish to get married on American soil (bad business decision), but love sexy ass women and new, young pussy to0 much to be MGTOW.



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There are levels to MGTOW. For example most MGTOW I know still fuck with women but they won't marry or have children. In fact I had an uncle and two brothers that lived like this before it was called MGTOW. When they showed up to family functions they got heat for not getting married.

With the way shit is I'm going to be like that as well. I want no parts of marriage or children.
 
I think the concept of marriage of the modern era should definitely be rethought. Long before the romantic idea of marriage..the concept was always as part of some business arrangement..either for alliance or more land etc. The romantic notion of a man and woman getting married purely for love has always been secondary if considered at all for MOST of the history of marriage.

Back a few decades ago if people got married for business reasons...ie healthcare or career goal purposes, green card or even as beards and skirts people called those "marriages of convenience" and looked down on people for doing that...but those unions are at least honest and upfront about WHY theyre doing it. Romantic interests can wane...shit you got the groom saying I do while looking at the bridemaid he wants to fuck in a broom closet after the ceremony. That means he's not taking what he's doing seriously..who's fault is that???

Both parties have a responsibility as well to what they bring to the marriage and expectation and ideas..

A lot of dudes go into a relationship making all kinds of promises and implied promises then act the fool once the wedding is over. Just check some of the responses here talking bout yeah the women are happy after divorce because they leave with "bag of money" as if the man is the innocent victim in all of this.

What they fail to realize is that wedding ceremony is a public declaration of the terms of the marriage contract (the vows) specify the conditions of your relationship.

Pastor to Groom -- Do you promise to love, to cherish, to honor to protect, forsaking all others, in sickness as well as in health. In adversity as well as in prosperity. For better or for worse, and to cleave only to her so long as you both shall live?

The vows are a CONTRACT, a VERBAL AGREEMENT, a PUBLIC PLEDGE and the bolded words are specific details that spell out your responsibilities to your spouse...this is why a WITNESS must be present. This is why God is mentioned as the one who you making these promises under.

And the problem in this thread and in our society is that cats think that those vows are just a lip service formality and theyre still free to do whatever they want as long as they financially take care of the woman. If you go into business with someone and you have a CONTRACT that spell out both your responsibilities to the business and the other person VIOLATES EVEN ONE OF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT you can SUE them for that and get monetary compensation for the BREACH.

Thats what american divorce is. Thats what ALIMONY is. Its a LEGAL proceeding to determine who violated their agreement and how the injured party should be COMPENSATED for that violation of their CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

Now thats the LEGAL aspect..the other is simply...a man's word is suppose to be his bond. Thats called honor. As Omar put it. "A man's gotta have a code.."

If she violates the terms of the deal you can divorce her..not all divorces end with alimony going to her.


So to answer the question is marriage outdated....YES there needs to a modification to the standard contract (vows) and people need to understand that getting married is as serious as getting divorced.


This is the realest breakdown I've ever seen. Without a doubt, marriage is a loosing proposition for the man but typically, it slows a dude down so he can get his head on straight and start attaining assets. While a mans value and usefulness can climb like an airplane his entire life, a woman's body and beauty are like the titanic. Once plying the seas proudly but the holes of time and gravity will have her scuttled on the ocean floor, a useless hulk. And that right there is where we men come in as captain save a ho's to give our now much more powerful support to the once proud flagship now derelict and abused.
 
The woman needs to ask herself, does she want to GET married or BE married?

Does she just want the pomp and circumstance or does she actually want the married life which may not be glamorous and exciting?

Us as men need to know this information...both parties need to be open and honest about their intentions and motivations going in.
 
I agree. That the idea of marriage needs to be modified. If you do get married it has to be with some who honestly gives a fuck about your well-being and vise versa. It can't just be all about romance, though romance is a factor. Both parties have to be willing to grow with each other (mentally & emotionally) and everything else will fall into place. Me and my wife were friends way before we started dating. My motto is the dick is never free. I made a conscious decision to really get to know her before we started dating. As a man, in marriage you have the opportunity to steer it in the direction you want it to go. The man should be utilizing his wife in areas he knows he is weak in. That's what she is there for and vise versa in order for both of parties to excel in their life endeavors.

The problem is most people don't understand this concept about marriage.

I work in a industry where I am surrounded and work with beautiful women 24/7 but at the end of the day my soul knows that no woman could ever take my eyes or mind off of what's at home.

I find that women are beast at success, esp. in career growth, just like the lioness that kills for the tribe. Your duty as a man is to keep your woman focused of the prize (and not her emotions) so she can make the kill. Once you actually take the time to nurture/grome her and most of all be patient with her in her growth, your will find that she will be your deadliest & loyal weapon in life. Women want to be this for men.

The EGO or whatever you call it has to go first and foremost (yours and hers). All that matters is you and her getting to where y'all want to be together. If a man instills that in his female's brain, she will literally help you get anything you want and do anything you want.

Dude, u will have no choice but to want to only want fuck with her. You'd be a fool not to.

That's some bullshit right there homie cause no way in hell you not fuckin dis bitch below. And if you say you not cause you love your wife yous a goddam lie!!!

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It is outdated for me. My only concern in life is total separation and the building of the original black nation. If they have our women and children then they have us. We got to struggle to get control of ourselves and then win our women and children back.
I am at the stage of struggling to get control of self and break the control of the world. Our goal is to rise above white laws, become unlimited in riches and actually live forever. It was what was in struggle around 2000 years ago. In the process of building a real black empire and exposing real truth we will begin to win our women and children.
There is nothing in sight for me in marriage right now except getting comfortable on the plantation.
 
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