Exit polls will likely show more than 25%.This is bullshit. Watch the exit polls
So both the democrats and republicans are going to be on the right after Harris loses?If Harris loses, expect Democrats to move right
Even though Harris is running as a moderate, progressives are likely to get blamed for her defeat.
Eric LevitzOct 22, 2024 at 5:30 AM EDT
Democrats are currently focused on the fight against Donald Trump. But quietly, factions within the party are preparing contingency plans for a different battle: the one over how to interpret a Kamala Harris loss.
Polls of the 2024 election show the closest presidential race in modern memory. For Harris, defeat is roughly as likely as victory. The former outcome is sure to trigger a fierce intra-Democratic debate over what the party should learn from losing the White House (twice) to an unpopular demagogue.
Already, moderates in the party are seeding the narrative that Harris was doomed by the Biden administration’s excessive deference to left-wing interest groups and aversion to orthodox economics. Some progressives suggest that Harris may be undone by her ties to big business, failure to articulate a “vision for the country,” and complicity in Israeli atrocities in Gaza.
It’s impossible to say with absolute certainty which — if any — of these theories would become conventional wisdom in the event of a second Trump victory.
Often, when a party suffers an electoral rebuke, the faction that led it into the wilderness loses influence within the coalition. After Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016, the Democratic Party became more progressive, ceding influence to some of her left-wing critics………….
@Supersav
So you're saying the world was better off for our ancestors being enslaved then?
So why don't you do the world a favor and go through slavery yourself. Let massa nut up in your wife and daughter in front of you then make your ass work the fields so the world can benefit.
So both the democrats and republicans are going to be on the right after Harris loses?
The shills are going to be praising Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson within the next 4 years.
And what you're doing eith Harris isn't?? How Stein saying ''and people of color " in a statement pertaining to issues affecting the black community any different than when Harris says it??These aren’t questions. These are biased ad hominem attacks and accusations with “questions” framed around them. If you want sincere answers then you need to ask objectively.
Since when is voting for twice impeached convicted felon who makes no promises or plans for anything pertaining to your agenda a wise move?Exit polls will likely show more than 25%.
This may be quite a surprise for a lot of old black males, who are much less wise than the younger generations.
And how does both sides moving right help the black community in the next four years?So both the democrats and republicans are going to be on the right after Harris loses?
The shills are going to be praising Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson within the next 4 years.
I already voted and didn’t cast a vote for any DNC or RNC clown.Since when is voting for twice impeached convicted felon who makes no promises or plans for anything pertaining to your agenda a wise move?
And how does both sides moving right help the black community in the next four years?
I had to do a double take..
Washington Times?? No, that's the right-wing publication
LA Times, thats the liberal one.
Obviously from my posts on this thread, I'm no Kamala supporter.
But I don't hate her.
How could the LA Times not endorse her??
What the hell is going on.
Who did you vote for?I already voted and didn’t cast a vote for any DNC or RNC clown.
It doesn’t, which is why we need to abandon both parties. Are you that afraid to stand alone with your own people?
And what you're doing eith Harris isn't?? How Stein saying ''and people of color " in a statement pertaining to issues affecting the black community any different than when Harris says it??
How is Stein saying she's open to the debate of reparations different from Harris saying she's open to a study?
Do you really believe either will happen?
If we see KKK members openly walking around the streets wearing hoods once T.rump wins..you might be among those that get blamedOn a human level it was lighthearted and funny but democrips don't have a sense of humor because Trump and "demacracy hangs in the balance" or something like that. I would not have cared if Kamala did something similar (even tho she always comes off as goofy). This is politics.
So you're saying the world was better off for our ancestors being enslaved then?
So why don't you do the world a favor and go through slavery yourself. Let massa nut up in your wife and daughter in front of you then make your ass work the fields so the world can benefit.
These aren’t questions. These are biased ad hominem attacks and accusations with “questions” framed around them. If you want sincere answers then you need to ask objectively.
Claudia de la cruzWho did you vote for?
It's hilarious how you've played devil's advocate in this thread then call someone else needy. I'm just following the logic you threw out there famo. When you putting your wife and kids up for sale to benefit the world. I mean I'm sure some good will come out of what happens to them.
It's hilarious how you've played devil's advocate in this thread then call someone else needy. I'm just following the logic you threw out there famo. When you putting your wife and kids up for sale to benefit the world. I mean I'm sure some good will come out of what happens to them.
You know just like I do that these cats virtue signal or better yet weaponize virtue all day . they can’t help it, its part of their pathology . They’re programmed to and if you provide them with fact they will still call you a “coon” (as if that means something) or insinuate that you are cool with the destruction of a group of ppl, whether it be your own or others.
The sad part is they feel justified in doing so. Mandingo Fighting 3.0 firmware update in effect.
I mean we (the world) did get a lot of advances in technology, medicine, and science from the Nazis, so he is not wrong. As fucked up as the SS / Third Reich was in performing medical experiments on Jews and Northern Africans, some of the vaccines and OTC drugs we have nowadays came from those very experiments. Take Sulfanilamide for example , it’s used to treat vaginal yeast and bacterial infections, well the Nazi’s had there had in that. Vaccines and treatment for malaria, typhus, tuberculosis, typhoid fever, yellow fever, and hepatitis were also attributed to the Nazis- and that’s just the some of the medical. As ethically wrong as eugenics is, technically on some parts it is right to some degree.
But that’s with any tyrannical regimen that does human atrocities, there is always something that the world ends up benefitting from. Shoot as screwed up as Ghengis Khan was he is admired for his war tactics and strategies to some.
If anyone is driving a BMW or Benz you gotta tip your hat off to them Germans of the 30’s and 40’s they set the foundation for one hella of a piece of machinery.
Are you forgetting that America financially supported Hitler and the Nazis in 35 and 37 while Germany was invading other countries America passed the neutrality act so they couldn't get involved. Big time rally at Madison Square Garden in support of the Nazi's...and after the war they stole all of their top scientists and gave refuge to plenty of war criminals. Trump is doing what America always does.
When you step into the "Vice President Kamala Harris is now the Democratic presidential nominee" thread, which is 587 pages as of today and avalanches of tweets worshipping and endorsing Kamala Harris, and ask those posters the same questions you ask me, then you might have some credibility.
I voted for Biden in 2020...I have NO PROBLEM with Kamala Harris being president today anymore than had 4 years ago.
Claudia de la cruz
If Harris loses, expect Democrats to move right
Even though Harris is running as a moderate, progressives are likely to get blamed for her defeat.
Eric LevitzOct 22, 2024 at 5:30 AM EDT
Democrats are currently focused on the fight against Donald Trump. But quietly, factions within the party are preparing contingency plans for a different battle: the one over how to interpret a Kamala Harris loss.
Polls of the 2024 election show the closest presidential race in modern memory. For Harris, defeat is roughly as likely as victory. The former outcome is sure to trigger a fierce intra-Democratic debate over what the party should learn from losing the White House (twice) to an unpopular demagogue.
Already, moderates in the party are seeding the narrative that Harris was doomed by the Biden administration’s excessive deference to left-wing interest groups and aversion to orthodox economics. Some progressives suggest that Harris may be undone by her ties to big business, failure to articulate a “vision for the country,” and complicity in Israeli atrocities in Gaza.
It’s impossible to say with absolute certainty which — if any — of these theories would become conventional wisdom in the event of a second Trump victory.
Often, when a party suffers an electoral rebuke, the faction that led it into the wilderness loses influence within the coalition. After Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016, the Democratic Party became more progressive, ceding influence to some of her left-wing critics………….
@Supersav
So both the democrats and republicans are going to be on the right after Harris loses?
The shills are going to be praising Clarence Thomas and Ben Carson within the next 4 years.
And yet you seem to hope he wins....Are you forgetting that America financially supported Hitler and the Nazis in 35 and 37 while Germany was invading other countries America passed the neutrality act so they couldn't get involved. Big time rally at Madison Square Garden in support of the Nazi's...and after the war they stole all of their top scientists and gave refuge to plenty of war criminals. Trump is doing what America always does.
considering the vast majority of blacks vote democrat I am standing with my people....I already voted and didn’t cast a vote for any DNC or RNC clown.
It doesn’t, which is why we need to abandon both parties. Are you that afraid to stand alone with your own people?
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you mean the thread I posted dozens and dozens of times in?? the thread I posted this in??
why are you scared to respond to questions about the position of the candidate you support???
since you two like projecting and running scenarios on what the political scene and climate will look like in the future...how about projecting this:
Let's say that Kamala signs off on all those demands.. especially the part where she declares ADOS a protected group.
What do you think the social/political ramifications would be??
The native Americans don't have a don't have a deal like this. So it would start a precedent of sorts.
And you are aware that if a president can do something by executive decision then the next president can revoke it the same way. You are aware that republicans got affirmative action and abortion banned right?
So what do you REALISTICALLY think would happen if Kamala did any of this....besides ensure republicans take the Whitehouse for the next 50 years....
I asked you first...stop being scared to engage meaningfully on a question...Why don't you ask these questions of yourself and/or in the other Kamala thread? What do you want and expect of her and the Dems vis-a-vis Black America if she wins? Anything?
"That's why we're seeing larger numbers of Latinos and Black voters who are moving toward Trump."
"That's why we're seeing larger numbers of Latinos and Black voters who are moving toward Trump."
Back in the day there were plenty of black households led by a patriarch, despite the efforts of cacs.That "power dynamic" you speak of never really existed in the Black community. Even Black feminists will tell you this.
You meant back in the good old days when women had less rights are most didn't work?Back in the day there were plenty of black households led by a patriarch, despite the efforts of cacs.