Is anyone on here REALLY voting for Kamala ? Why should I vote for Kamala?

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More Dems pushing a pro Black man agenda on Black women...
 
The date on the letter is two days before Trump was inaugurated. So this was a faggot Obama policy. And zero surgeries happened under Trump.
The statement explains that gender dysphoria falls within the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)’s definition of “disability” and affirms that correctional institutions cannot deny medically appropriate care for people with gender dysphoria, no matter their particular circumstances, consistent with the Eighth Amendment.

thats not just about surgeries... and the trump adm complied rather than separate it or single out trans people...like he's apparently doing with harris.
 
The statement explains that gender dysphoria falls within the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)’s definition of “disability” and affirms that correctional institutions cannot deny medically appropriate care for people with gender dysphoria, no matter their particular circumstances, consistent with the Eighth Amendment.

thats not just about surgeries... and the trump adm complied rather than separate it or single out trans people...like he's apparently doing with harris.
I see you are sympathetic to the plight of trannies who can't accept the reality of their sex. Only a democrat can attempt to justify the bullshit. That's how I know these kamala coons are democrat first, Black second. WHATEVER the democrats propose the kamala coons will be for it.
 
I see you are sympathetic to the plight of trannies who can't accept the reality of their sex. Only a democrat can attempt to justify the bullshit. That's how I know these kamala coons are democrat first, Black second. WHATEVER the democrats propose the kamala coons will be for it.
Seems you got called coons so much you want to turn the tables. :lol:

I challenge you to put on a Maga cap and go out in public.
 
I see you are sympathetic to the plight of trannies who can't accept the reality of their sex. Only a democrat can attempt to justify the bullshit. That's how I know these kamala coons are democrat first, Black second. WHATEVER the democrats propose the kamala coons will be for it.
So its wrong to recognize them as human beings and americans...okay...what do you suggest should be done...shoot them on sight???
 

3 theories why Democrats have lost support among Black men​

It’s an erosion that’s taken place over the last decade.
by Li Zhou :hmm::(:oops:
Oct 19, 2024


ATLANTA, GA - AUGUST 3- Two men wearing Black MAGA' shirts sta

Two men wearing shirts that say “MAGA Black” stand up after being called on to do so by former president and current Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump as he speaks during a campaign event on August 3, 2024, in Atlanta.

Li Zhou is a politics reporter at Vox, where she covers Congress and elections. Previously, she was a tech policy reporter at Politico and an editorial fellow at the Atlantic.

For years, Black men have been an integral part of the Democratic coalition.

In 2012, 87 percent of Black men backed former President Barack Obama; in 2016, 82 percent backed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; and in 2020, 79 percent backed President Joe Biden, according to NBC exit polls. This year, 70 percent have said they’re backing Vice President Kamala Harris, per a recent New York Times/Siena poll.

As those numbers make clear, the group overwhelmingly supports Democrats, but their loyalty has begun to wane, a shift that stretches across the last several campaigns. That attrition has something to do with the candidates themselves, but also with voters’ longstanding disillusionment with the party. Despite being one of Democrats’ most loyal voting blocs, some Black voters have felt ignored and taken for granted as campaign promises and change have been slow to materialize.

“People are disappointed with the Democrats,” says David Childs, a history professor and director of the Black Studies Program at Northern Kentucky University. “A lot of people feel disenfranchised. They don’t feel like they have a voice.”

An added twist is some evidence that the Democrats’ leftward shift on social issues may also be a factor. Reviewing polling on respondents’ views on LGBTQ issues, Thomas Edsall of the New York Times noted that views expressed by Black voters in one survey suggested that “some aspects of Democratic liberal orthodoxy contribute to the exodus of conservative minorities from the party.”

The erosion Democrats have seen could be attributed to any number of reasons. But broadly, here are three theories that can explain why some Black men are feeling cool toward the party this cycle:

1) A sense of economic stagnation

In the last four years, Black Americans have faced the same economic challenges as everyone else, while also navigating racial wealth and wage gaps that mean many Black families feel the effects of rising costs and inflation more keenly than their white counterparts.


While Black unemployment reached an all-time low during the Biden administration, it’s still twice as high as white unemployment. Similarly, while the Black poverty rate reached a record low in 2022, that all-time low still meant nearly one in five Black Americans was living in poverty, nearly double the poverty rate of white Americans.

“In focus groups and conversations with party leaders, Black men have stated repeatedly that their material conditions have remained unchanged under Democratic and Republican presidential administrations,” the New York Times’s Maya King reports. And as costs have risen during the Biden administration — mostly due to inflation — that feeling of stagnation has only grown more pronounced.

Such sentiments have prompted some voters to weigh whether voting for an alternative option — like Trump — could help produce a different outcome.

“Nothing has come to fruition. Look at the schools, the playgrounds, the parks. Downtown is struggling. In our community, typically, we vote for Democrats. How has that panned out for us?” Ahmad Taylor, an undecided Michigan voter who previously voted for Biden, told the Washington Post’s Michael Brice-Saddler.

Multiple Covid-19 aid packages also helped stem the economic pain some voters experienced because of the pandemic during the Trump administration and the beginning of the Biden administration. These included stimulus checks, small business funding, and expansions to unemployment payments.

A number of these payments, however, expired during the Biden administration because Republicans in Congress balked at passing a continuation of programs like an expanded child tax. That’s left voters dealing with both higher costs on consumer goods and a drop-off in aid that could help soften the blow.

Because the first wave of stimulus checks was sent out during the Trump administration and also bore his name, some voters have been under the mistaken impression that he’s solely to credit for them. That idea has taken hold even though the aid was passed by a Democratic House and a Republican Senate, and even though stimulus payments were distributed during the Biden administration as well.

2) Resistance to the growing social liberalism of the Democratic Party

Another dynamic at play is more conservative attitudes among some Black voters on social issues. In particular, as Democrats have shifted leftward on LGBTQ rights — just over a decade ago, Obama was hesitant to back same-sex marriage — some of these voters have chafed at the party’s current stance.

This cycle, Republicans have ramped up attacks on LGBTQ rights, particularly those targeting trans people, and that may be resonating with certain voters, including Black men. In one attack ad on Harris that played during football games, the Trump campaign has gone after her support for funding gender-affirming surgeries for trans inmates — something, it should be noted, that prisons also offered under Trump. “Kamala is for they/them; President Trump is for you,” the ad states.

Charlamagne Tha God, an influential media personality and one of the hosts of the syndicated radio show The Breakfast Club, has described the ad as “effective.”

Other voters have spoken of Democrats’ support for gay rights as a problem. “That’s when I left Democrats alone,” one voter, identified as J, told NPR, noting that the legalization of same-sex marriage, a milestone made possible by the Supreme Court but celebrated by Democrats, was his tipping point away from the party.

Those socially conservative viewpoints can extend to gender as well. When it comes to Harris’s candidacy, specifically, sexism might well be a real issue for some voters, including Black men.

“There are traditional values that come out of a lot of the Black homes that are still around,” Childs says. “Even though many Black males were raised by a mother, by a matriarch, there’s still this notion that women have a certain place in our society.”

Cliff Albright, executive director of the Black Voters Matter Fund, notes that he’s heard the sentiment from a small percentage of voters he’s spoken to. “You got some percentage that will come out and tell you, like in your face: ‘I don’t think a woman should be president,’” he says.

3) An election cycle rife with disinformation

A problem that only amplifies Democrats’ struggles is the rise of disinformation, multiple experts posited. :lol:

Childs notes that influencers on the right have seized on real concerns Black men may have — like economic frustration — to advance false messages about how Harris and Biden haven’t accomplished anything to help members of this group.

In one example that Charlamagne Tha God cited during a town hall with Harris this week, he referenced a viral clip from a Harris interview with the Grio that was taken out of context and has been cut so it looks like she’s saying she won’t do anything specifically for Black people.

These claims often begin with pundits on the right, or even Trump himself, and get amplified over social media by celebrities, podcasters, and other prominent personalities. The singer Janet Jackson, for instance, recently elevated lies that Trump had told questioning Harris’s ethnicity.
Multiple surveys, including an August NAACP poll, have found a stark generational divide among Black men, with voters under 50 far less likely to support Harris than those over 50. Albright believes this points to the effect disinformation on social media has had, as younger voters are more likely to get news from these sources.

“It’s like a living organism, this disinformation. It grows from a cell, and then it reaches the point where it takes on a life of its own, and it just grows all kinds of tentacles,” Albright tells Vox. “And … it’s touching millions of Black voters.”

 
I can wear a Kamala hat with 100% confidence I wont be called coon not once. Can you say the same wearing a maga hat?

Shit I could even wear the hat to a family event and no one would look at me funny, can you?
I will definitely call you a coon if I see you wearing it. And I can wear whatever I want and no one will say shit to my face. They can mutter to themselves as a I walk past.
 
I will definitely call you a coon if I see you wearing it. And I can wear whatever I want and no one will say shit to my face. They can mutter to themselves as a I walk past.
A Black maga calling someone else a coon is hilarious, you should do stand up. It seems being called a coon bothers you, I thought you all wore it as a badge of honor.
 


same guy:

"Baltimore Pastor Jamal Bryant is in the center of another alleged controversy, depending on whom you ask. This time, Latoya Shawntee Odom, a 34 year old Los Angeles-based masseuse, is accusing the (in)famous minister of fathering her 10 month old son, according to The Baltimore Sun. Odom also claims Bryant has failed to financially support the child."

 
Do democrips really think anyone cares that it was staged?
My post wasn't about republicans or democrats, it's was more of a human level.

And yes, people should care if it's staged.

Fake photos with working, arranging customers to be served in the drive-thru when the restaurant's closed.

Kinda weird but since it trump it should matter.

Had that been Kamala you would've had lots to say and none of it positive.
 
My post wasn't about republicans or democrats, it's was more of a human level.

And yes, people should care if it's staged.

Fake photos with working, arranging customers to be served in the drive-thru when the restaurant's closed.

Kinda weird but since it trump it should matter.

Had that been Kamala you would've had lots to say and none of it positive.

On a human level it was lighthearted and funny but democrips don't have a sense of humor because Trump and "demacracy hangs in the balance" or something like that. I would not have cared if Kamala did something similar (even tho she always comes off as goofy). This is politics.
 
It's amazing that a bunch of "men" are okay with an incompetent, ignorant, racist narcissist like Trump becoming president because of "gay people & immigrants! :eek:" If you're okay with Trump winning then you don't care about others, especially Black people. You only care about yourself because you don't think that anything Trump does will affect you so fuck everyone else, you'll be fine.
 
okay so youre talking to again in this thread..

:lol:you wanna talk about circular logic .you mothafuckas are delusional. You claim both sides are the same yet base you decision on the notion that trump is lesser of two evils...youre voting for Jill Stein yet use you time to crow about how horrible Harris is rather than promote why it better to vote for Stein. And supersav thinks Pan-Africanism is the answer and even YOU don't believe in that shit. You two are only allies in your hatred of Dems...the only legit party that has even an inkling of a chance to get thru anything you want compared to the republicans.

If trump gets in there takes reparations off the table completely then what you gonna do?

As I said, assumptions and ad hominems based on what you selectively think rather than what either of us says. Supersav can speak for himself but he’s made it clear that he’s hardcore leftist/Marxist-Leninist/Third World Internationalist. I understand that ideology even though I’m not a part of it. So he’s critical of the Dems but the GOP as well as both are part of the entire Western capitalist system/military-industrial complex as a whole. Pan-Africanism, anti-white supremacism, anti-Zionism, and anti-neoliberalism are all parts of that ideology or adjacent to it. It’s basically where Malcolm X ideologically was when he was assassinated. How the police operate in the hood over here is no different than how the IDF operates in Gaza. They’re all parts of the same global system of exploitation. That kind of shit.

I’m nowhere near as expansive. I’m strictly ADOS. And you of all people know what the ADOS positions are and you even agree with it! Yet you argue about it anyway. If the Dems don’t platform and support reparations for ADOS then we don’t support them until they do. We’re far more simple in our scope of things.
looking at both posts nothing you said disputes my point.

and you support the green party...you should be trying to build that up. They address all the things you talk about in the direct wording you want to hear.

But I'm really interested in hearing your answer to this post:
We call on the Biden-Harris administration specifically—and all elected officials in general—to review our agenda and work with the ADOS Advocacy Foundation to secure the promise of America for all her citizens.

President Biden must call on Congress to create an Office of ADOS Affairs that will specifically advocate for the needs of ADOS people.

Should Congress fail to act, President Biden must create the Office by executive order.

Reparations Agenda
Formerly enslaved ADOS ancestors who are owed reparations for United States slavery.
Martin Luther King Jr. fought for reparations for slavery. That was his unfinished work.
REPARATIONS
President Biden must direct Congress to propose and deliver to his desk a federally led and administered Reparations package that identifies a definite start date with no fixed ending date. President Biden must commit to seeing the Act faithfully executed. At minimum, the Reparations package should prioritize cash payments totaling $20 trillion to American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS). Together with targeted policies and protections, the redistributive measures will be ongoing and must remain in effect until—at the very least—the wealth gap between white Americans and ADOS is closed
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Interesting... If trump wins does all this change to him?
But let's play out how this goes...knowing what we know about how politics works.

Let's say that Kamala signs off on all those demands.. especially the part where she declares ADOS a protected group.

What do you think the social/political ramifications would be??

The native Americans don't have a deal like this. So it would start a precedent of sorts.

And you are aware that if a president can do something by executive decision then the next president can revoke it the same way. You are aware that republicans got affirmative action and abortion banned right?

So what do you REALISTICALLY think would happen if Kamala did any of this....besides ensure republicans take the Whitehouse for the next 50 years....
 
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