Iowa grants gun permits to the blind

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/08/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/2780303/

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Here's some news that has law enforcement officials and lawmakers scratching their heads:

Iowa is granting permits to acquire or carry guns in public to people who are legally or completely blind.

No one questions the legality of the permits. State law does not allow sheriffs to deny an Iowan the right to carry a weapon based on physical ability.

The quandary centers squarely on public safety. Advocates for the disabled and Iowa law enforcement officers disagree over whether it's a good idea for visually disabled Iowans to have weapons.

On one side: People such as Cedar County Sheriff Warren Wethington, who demonstrated for The Des Moines Register how blind people can be taught to shoot guns. And Jane Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, who says blocking visually impaired people from the right to obtain weapon permits would violate the Americans with Disabilities Act. That federal law generally prohibits different treatment based on disabilities

On the other side: People such as Dubuque County Sheriff Don Vrotsos, who said he wouldn't issue a permit to someone who is blind. And Patrick Clancy, superintendent of the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving School, who says guns may be a rare exception to his philosophy that blind people can participate fully in life.

Private gun ownership — even hunting — by visually impaired Iowans is nothing new. But the practice of visually impaired residents legally carrying firearms in public became widely possible thanks to gun permit changes that took effect in Iowa in 2011.

"It seems a little strange, but the way the law reads we can't deny them (a permit) just based on that one thing," said Sgt. Jana Abens, a spokeswoman for the Polk County Sheriff's Department, referring to a visual disability.


Polk County officials say they've issued weapons permits to at least three people who can't legally drive and were unable to read the application forms or had difficulty doing so because of visual impairments.

And sheriffs in three other counties — Jasper, Kossuth and Delaware — say they have granted permits to residents who they believe have severe visual impairments.

"I'm not an expert in vision," Delaware County Sheriff John LeClere said. "At what point do vision problems have a detrimental effect to fire a firearm? If you see nothing but a blurry mass in front of you, then I would say you probably shouldn't be shooting something."

Training the visually impaired

In one Iowa county, blind residents who want weapons would likely receive special training.

Wethington, the Cedar County sheriff, has a legally blind daughter who plans to obtain a permit to carry when she turns 21 in about two years. He demonstrated for the Register how he would train blind people who want to carry a gun.

"If sheriffs spent more time trying to keep guns out of criminals' hands and not people with disabilities, their time would be more productive," Wethington said as he and his daughter took turns practice shooting with a semi-automatic handgun on private property in rural Cedar County.

The number of visually impaired or blind Iowans who can legally carry weapons in public is unknown because that information is not collected by the state or county sheriffs who issue the permits.

Clancy, superintendent of the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving School, said the range of sight among people who are classified as legally blind varies greatly. He believes there are situations where such applicants can safely handle a gun.

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They arm who they want to arm. Most blacks have been to prison and are poor. The main people they keep the guns out of their hand. We are the dissatisfied and a lot of us know who the real enemy is before it is to late.
 
So how these niggas going to see Targets at the gun range 15ft to 25ft away? :lol:
 
What could go wrong?

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Cacery is afoot...what purpose does this serve? I'm sure they would be able to determine their target by sound :rolleyes:.

They arm who they want to arm. Most blacks have been to prison and are poor. The main people they keep the guns out of their hand. We are the dissatisfied and a lot of us know who the real enemy is before it is to late.

I get the jist of it...but I can't agree with that. That sounds like something a cac would say... Most of us haven't been to prison. That's a pretty broad statement.
 
Cacery is afoot...what purpose does this serve? I'm sure they would be able to determine their target by sound :rolleyes:.



I get the jist of it...but I can't agree with that. That sounds like something a cac would say... Most of us haven't been to prison. That's a pretty broad statement.
I do not know what the stats are right now but in some cities blacks would make up around 30 percent of the population. But in the prisons in the same place they make up 80 or 90 percent of the prison population. The main thing is that the people that are out to kill us are becoming more and more armed and more and more richer. There was no talk of gun control when we went to Libya and helped with the genocide of blacks there, or in New Orleans where whites got on documentaries bragging about killing unarmed black men and the authorities say there is nothing they can do about it.
I know the true nature of those that really run things and what it is that is controlling them. Trust me a cac is not going to tell you that they are the enemy and we are the prey. I would rather be safe than sorry. We should be tired of shedding blood to promote what is theirs and protect what is theirs and have no blood to stand up for ourselves or protect ourselves.
 
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