If THIS aint a clear ADMISSION THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!!!!

[14damoney]

gotta agree wit ya man
ur all over the place destrehan
i think i know what ur gettin at as far as gravity and water but the flat/bowl earth stuff i just dont follow
But alot of this stuff deserves its own threads
It seems ur excitement and impatience have u all over the place


oh yeah thanks for the compliment
sometimes i get alittle peak at whats in my subconscious
and it only seems right to share what i find




i'm not all that familiar wit all the sailin stuff
i dont even fuck wit cruise ships lol
but i think iget what ur sayin
theres too close a correlation between the distances for the earth to be a sphere, or something like that.....

but not to throw a monkey wrench in things but does any of this nautical stuff u posted take in to account ocean currents ( just below the surface ), the winds on the sea, the mode of transport used, routes taken, etc

theres a few other variables i'm leavin out but i'm too sleepy to remember




theres no up or down in space
the theory u use to explain why objects would stay put on a curved/bowl earth would work just as well on a spherical earth.




U gotta be careful when it comes to knowledge from the ancients, especial egypt. Everything with them was code and metaphor. and the same goes for most other ancient societies. Dont let the excitement of new knowledge blind u



heres onna dem variables i forgot about
people who do alot of travelin cant really be keepin the secret
and if large chunks of the world are in on the flat/bowl earth secret
and all it takes to be in is to the some flyin around
then is this really being concealed?






why u have to go an do that
i'm tryin to get to sleep before the sun comes up

yall gonna make me go diggin in my old bookmarks.....




ya know

since i said i'd find my copy of the vid here it is

This dude Mike123 is KILLING ME!!!!!




I never knew I had a LONG-LOST-TWIN-BROTHER...








SM muthafuckin' H....






Mike123, you done fucked up now....

... because I'm in your corner FOREVER (having your back) from this point forward.


YOU ARE NOW ON MY LIST...


... of those who compare perceptions with reality...



You can't escape, it's too late. You are going to have to say some DUMB-ASS-SHIT to break these bonds....

But I don't think you will...

You're on MY team now...


... and yet, you're your own individual; to think, and do as you please...


... and because you've raised the bar, I expect nothing less of you...






I stay busy, sometimes I leave my computer on making it look like I'm online, when I'm actually elsewhere...




But I've paid attention before, and this nicca Mike123 has been consistent with his shit!


I know we're in a forum, but can someone please spell out the letters to the word impressed?


I have other un-named brothers who post on here. Many don't even know I respect them like that.

De-Streh does, he's my brother in arms (whether I agree or not on the topic, I understand his mind-set).


Mike123, consider yourself initiated as a knowledge seeker... Your glory is long overdue...

 

[Loud_HowardS]

I don't really see the purpose of going to the moon other than to say the United States was first. allegedly they got several pounds of moon rocks at a cost of how much? that money could have been better spent on the people here.since it was funded by tax dollars.
the theory of a fake Moon Landing has existed for decades,but there are ham radio operators that have followed the broadcasts which were from outer space so I don't think it was fake.

 

[destrehan]

i got sleepy last night and logged off, but i am done with this discussion because i am willing to admit i do not have all the answers YET. and 14damoney, my belief is not that the earth is flat in the literal sense, but it is not a sphere and it is more of a bowl shape that looks like a sphere in all photographic representation due to doctoring or some anomaly that renders it to look like this when viewed from space.

my main point is that our science is not the end all be all to our knowledge of this universe and we cannot afford to let them tell us what we should believe. as far as the othe planetary formations out there, my argument is this: even though we can look into a telescope and see these other "planets", what gave us the authority to define who these stellar bodies are? and if the earth looks like sphere from space even though it MIGHT NOT be, then these other planets may also have the same condition. our perception is not always REALITY.

even if my belief is wrong in the end, i would be glad i was able to have a good debate about it and inspire some others to think.

 

[Big Tex]

i got sleepy last night and logged off, but i am done with this discussion because i am willing to admit i do not have all the answers YET. and 14damoney, my belief is not that the earth is flat in the literal sense, but it is not a sphere and it is more of a bowl shape that looks like a sphere in all photographic representation due to doctoring or some anomaly that renders it to look like this when viewed from space.

my main point is that our science is not the end all be all to our knowledge of this universe and we cannot afford to let them tell us what we should believe. as far as the othe planetary formations out there, my argument is this: even though we can look into a telescope and see these other "planets", what gave us the authority to define who these stellar bodies are? and if the earth looks like sphere from space even though it MIGHT NOT be, then these other planets may also have the same condition. our perception is not always REALITY.

even if my belief is wrong in the end, i would be glad i was able to have a good debate about it and inspire some others to think.

Who is this "them" you are talking about? These beliefs you posted were all dictated to you by someone else (see also the flat earth society). So you are choosing one "them" over another "them".

In the end, you can choose to believe that everyone on this planet and everything in the Universe has conspired to keep the true shape of the Earth concealed but you give no reason why it's so important to these powers that be that it stays hidden. And isn't the fact that you now "know" and are putting it out on the internet causing the entirety of human existence and the universe to be shaken to its core since many people may now "know"?

Or the Earth could be a sphere.

It's very easy to become disillusioned with the world. But don't let that disillusionment make you easy prey for conspiracists. They don't use real logic. When you ask for proof that the US Government is covering up the true shape of the Earth, they will say, "Well, look at this. The Government lied about another event so why wouldn't they lie about this one."

THAT IS NOT PROOF.

 

[komobb]

This dude Mike123 is KILLING ME!!!!!




I never knew I had a LONG-LOST-TWIN-BROTHER...








SM muthafuckin' H....






Mike123, you done fucked up now....

... because I'm in your corner FOREVER (having your back) from this point forward.


YOU ARE NOW ON MY LIST...


... of those who compare perceptions with reality...



You can't escape, it's too late. You are going to have to say some DUMB-ASS-SHIT to break these bonds....

But I don't think you will...

You're on MY team now...


... and yet, you're your own individual; to think, and do as you please...


... and because you've raised the bar, I expect nothing less of you...






I stay busy, sometimes I leave my computer on making it look like I'm online, when I'm actually elsewhere...




But I've paid attention before, and this nicca Mike123 has been consistent with his shit!


I know we're in a forum, but can someone please spell out the letters to the word impressed?


I have other un-named brothers who post on here. Many don't even know I respect them like that.

De-Streh does, he's my brother in arms (whether I agree or not on the topic, I understand his mind-set).


Mike123, consider yourself initiated as a knowledge seeker... Your glory is long overdue...

You are really freakin weird.

i got sleepy last night and logged off, but i am done with this discussion because i am willing to admit i do not have all the answers YET. and 14damoney, my belief is not that the earth is flat in the literal sense, but it is not a sphere and it is more of a bowl shape that looks like a sphere in all photographic representation due to doctoring or some anomaly that renders it to look like this when viewed from space.

my main point is that our science is not the end all be all to our knowledge of this universe and we cannot afford to let them tell us what we should believe. as far as the othe planetary formations out there, my argument is this: even though we can look into a telescope and see these other "planets", what gave us the authority to define who these stellar bodies are? and if the earth looks like sphere from space even though it MIGHT NOT be, then these other planets may also have the same condition. our perception is not always REALITY.

even if my belief is wrong in the end, i would be glad i was able to have a good debate about it and inspire some others to think.

Your perception is further from reality than the rest of ours. You seem like one of those people who tries to be different based on the off chance that they might be right and will one day be called a genius. Sorry buddy but there is no way you are right about this one.

You don't have to accept everything you are told to believe but you can accept well reasoned science and logic. If everyone tried to start from scratch and rediscover everything on their own we would never make any progress.

 

[destrehan]

You are really freakin weird.



Your perception is further from reality than the rest of ours. You seem like one of those people who tries to be different based on the off chance that they might be right and will one day be called a genius. Sorry buddy but there is no way you are right about this one.

You don't have to accept everything you are told to believe but you can accept well reasoned science and logic. If everyone tried to start from scratch and rediscover everything on their own we would never make any progress.

i posted enough information to support my claims. and big tex you can just get the fuck outta my face because you had no intention on hearing anything i had to say in the first place. you're saying my views were dictated to me, but how can that be if i went and sought out the information because i wasn't convinced of the shit that was dictated to us by the school systems and other conventional science.

 

[EPDC]

Wow. First the Moon Landing was fake, now the earth isn't a sphere. GTFOH with this bullshit. Simple logic would dictate, if you were to look out over the sea you can see the curve of the Earth. Back when the Earth was believed to be flat, many of the few people who knew this was false were sailors.

A bunch of Sherri Shepard flat earth believing, tin foil wearing, chicken little thinking, "real knowledge" having, always skeptical, against all science, ass people. Flat Earth. Yeah, all the government's in the world are in on this Conspiracy.

 

[Big Tex]

i posted enough information to support my claims. and big tex you can just get the fuck outta my face because you had no intention on hearing anything i had to say in the first place. you're saying my views were dictated to me, but how can that be if i went and sought out the information because i wasn't convinced of the shit that was dictated to us by the school systems and other conventional science.

You went out, sought and was taught what someone else said to be true. Did you see the bowl shaped Earth with your own eye? Did you personally travel to the edge to see the "Ice Wall"? Then how the fuck di you come to these beliefs if they were not given to you by someone else? Someone spoke these things and you believed them without any and I do mean ANY real data - just a bunch of anecdotal evidence.

You say we're sheep because we believe falsified data, but then turn right around and say that the world is a bowl but have absolutely no data, falsified or otherwise to back it up...

 

[destrehan]

Wow. First the Moon Landing was fake, now the earth isn't a sphere. GTFOH with this bullshit. Simple logic would dictate, if you were to look out over the sea you can see the curve of the Earth. Back when the Earth was believed to be flat, many of the few people who knew this was false were sailors.

A bunch of Sherri Shepard flat earth believing, tin foil wearing, chicken little thinking, "real knowledge" having, always skeptical, against all science, ass people. Flat Earth. Yeah, all the government's in the world are in on this Conspiracy.

assface, i explained the "curvature" of the earth in this thread. but since you refused to read it that makes YOU the dickhead.

 

[destrehan]

You went out, sought and was taught what someone else said to be true. Did you see the bowl shaped Earth with your own eye? Did you personally travel to the edge to see the "Ice Wall"? Then how the fuck di you come to these beliefs if they were not given to you by someone else? Someone spoke these things and you believed them without any and I do mean ANY real data - just a bunch of anecdotal evidence.

You say we're sheep because we believe falsified data, but then turn right around and say that the world is a bowl but have absolutely no data, falsified or otherwise to back it up...

muthafucka, i have intuition. and this makes more sense to ME. and you can try to say i was "taught" something til you turn blue, but i found this information and i embraced it because it makes MORE SENSE. now i am sorry you are so brainwashed you could never imagine things being any different than what you were taught. you can cease addressing me you fuckin shill. it's common knowledge about the ice, have you ever heard of the "north" and "south" poles?

 

[komobb]

i posted enough information to support my claims. and big tex you can just get the fuck outta my face because you had no intention on hearing anything i had to say in the first place. you're saying my views were dictated to me, but how can that be if i went and sought out the information because i wasn't convinced of the shit that was dictated to us by the school systems and other conventional science.

You didn't post much information at all. You mainly used assumptions like "if the earth looks like sphere from space even though it MIGHT NOT be, then these other planets may also have the same condition." To explain away what we all know has been proven as fact.

Then there are other questions which you choose to ignore such as why no planes have flown off the edge of the earth.

One more thing, are you a Muslim?

 

[komobb]

muthafucka, i have intuition. and this makes more sense to ME. and you can try to say i was "taught" something til you turn blue, but i found this information and i embraced it because it makes MORE SENSE. now i am sorry you are so brainwashed you could never imagine things being any different than what you were taught. you can cease addressing me you fuckin shill. it's common knowledge about the ice, have you ever heard of the "north" and "south" poles?

Common knowledge? The whole point of your argument is that common knowledge should not be accepted. According to your logic, if you have not personally seen the north and south poles then you should not believe they exist. Even if you have seen them your perception may not be reality (according to you).

 

[Big Tex]

muthafucka, i have intuition. and this makes more sense to ME. and you can try to say i was "taught" something til you turn blue, but i found this information and i embraced it because it makes MORE SENSE. now i am sorry you are so brainwashed you could never imagine things being any different than what you were taught. you can cease addressing me you fuckin shill. it's common knowledge about the ice, have you ever heard of the "north" and "south" poles?

once again...

I can imagine things being different if you present me with some facts.

Let me ask you this. Say you took a glass, filled it with water, then covered it with a sheet of paper. if you turned it upside down, the water would just run out right? That's what makes SENSE...



Try it yourself... Or maybe the government has rigged your glass!?!?!

 

[EPDC]

assface, i explained the "curvature" of the earth in this thread. but since you refused to read it that makes YOU the dickhead.

9 pages deep of nonsense. Yeah, in the name of Colin Powell, I am gonna read all that

You talk about research you done yourself, "intuition" that makes more sense to you, and that WE are all brainwashed....

So you're telling me that one of the smartest men on this "bowl" of yours called Earth, Neil deGrasse Tyson, is an idiot and all wrong? Are you telling me that his theories, his lectures, his whole perception is false, because you have "intuition," because you have done the research yourself? He is brainwashed? Sorry but the possibility of all of us being brainwashed, and you being the one who isn't is close to impossible. Its the other way around son. You have brainwashed yourself. You have read of this nonsense, false theories and false knowledge and believed everything you have come across, so long as it goes against scientific fact, just to further promote your perceptions of reality.

Who do you think you are, Morpheus? Are you Neo? Is this what you're using as a basis of your theories of everyone else being brainwashed? Yeah, we are all plugged into the Matrix, while you are off the grid, fighting the good fight, trying to teach everyone the true ways of this universe, telling us we are all wrong in our thinking, perception of life, the world and the planets. You withdraw from Scientific fact because it is all a conspiracy, one big global gotcha trick that was meant to keep the entire population in control, but somehow, because you have "intuition," you became self aware. You were able to teach yourself, the true nature of all things and is fighting the good fight of teaching and spreading the "knowledge" you have learned......Remember, a crazy man doesn't believe he is crazy, but just cause he can't comprehend the idea of his sanity being lost, doesn't change the fact that he can indeed be insane. Am I calling you crazy? No, but I do believe you are intelligent in knowing a bunch of nonsense. Yes, you are an intellectual idiot. Congratulations.

 

[JohnJuan]

Wow. First the Moon Landing was fake, now the earth isn't a sphere. GTFOH with this bullshit. Simple logic would dictate, if you were to look out over the sea you can see the curve of the Earth. Back when the Earth was believed to be flat, many of the few people who knew this was false were sailors.

A bunch of Sherri Shepard flat earth believing, tin foil wearing, chicken little thinking, "real knowledge" having, always skeptical, against all science, ass people. Flat Earth. Yeah, all the government's in the world are in on this Conspiracy.

I never can understand why people on this board like you and Big Tex like to twist shit around and make people look like clowns. I can't remember anyone in this thread saying that the earth is flat It quite possible might not be shape that we perceive, but I haven't seen any evidence to prove it isn't yet. Some interesting links and pictures were dropped in this thread though. I'll now read up on it. Some people just take whatever info they're given as the truth without questioning it and then close their mind to anything else. This thread was about the moon, but since it kinda switched to the Earth I'll say this. I've always had the suspicion that a lot of geographical locations on the maps of Earth that we are given are incomplete and shapes of land masses are purposely distorted. I saw a google mapmaker in the hood yesterday, and you can't tell me that the governments of the world doesn't have influence over them.

 

[AllState17]

This has been fun.

I have no doubts that there was a moon landing and that the earth is a sphere, but I support those who question everything. I have an inquisitive mind myself about some things.

I just dont suscribe to bullshit "world-wide conspiracies" that last hundreds of years with the secret not being discovered and for seemingly no purpose whatsoever. Religious belief systems, my ass, the dominant religions of this world dont teach us the earth is a sphere.

 

[komobb]

I never can understand why people on this board like you and Big Tex like to twist shit around and make people look like clowns. I can't remember anyone in this thread saying that the earth is flat It quite possible might not be shape that we perceive, but I haven't seen any evidence to prove it isn't yet. Some interesting links and pictures were dropped in this thread though. I'll now read up on it. Some people just take whatever info they're given as the truth without questioning it and then close their mind to anything else. This thread was about the moon, but since it kinda switched to the Earth I'll say this. I've always had the suspicion that a lot of geographical locations on the maps of Earth that we are given are incomplete and shapes of land masses are purposely distorted. I saw a google mapmaker in the hood yesterday, and you can't tell me that the governments of the world doesn't have influence over them.

Why?

 

[destrehan]

I never can understand why people on this board like you and Big Tex like to twist shit around and make people look like clowns. I can't remember anyone in this thread saying that the earth is flat It quite possible might not be shape that we perceive, but I haven't seen any evidence to prove it isn't yet. Some interesting links and pictures were dropped in this thread though. I'll now read up on it. Some people just take whatever info they're given as the truth without questioning it and then close their mind to anything else. This thread was about the moon, but since it kinda switched to the Earth I'll say this. I've always had the suspicion that a lot of geographical locations on the maps of Earth that we are given are incomplete and shapes of land masses are purposely distorted. I saw a google mapmaker in the hood yesterday, and you can't tell me that the governments of the world doesn't have influence over them.

 

[Les W]

I seriously shed tears y'all this should get stickied

I try to have an open mind but every time I think about it I can't stop

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[JohnJuan]

Why?

I'm just saying. In the past I've seen some independent/alternative maps and the different positions that existing land masses were in and the extra land masses that the general public supposedly doesn't know about didn't seem too impossible.

 

[J-BOOGIE]

Okay...

I read up to about halfway through page number 7 and beheld the most astonishing display of moronic idiocy I have ever seen with my own eyes in modern times.

Something horribly wrong is going on out there with a great many number of people obviously. Like I've said elsewhere, we all have been actually duped and dodged on a many number of things. But some of us are willing to completely go over the deep end and relinquish ALL semblances of basic common sense observations, not to mention comparing the aforementioned to the scientific concenses readily made available for review and consideration by the average lay person.

This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read on BGOL, seriously, fucking WOW!!!

 

[komobb]

Okay...

I read up to about halfway through page number 7 and beheld the most astonishing display of moronic idiocy I have ever seen with my own eyes in modern times.

Something horribly wrong is going on out there with a great many number of people obviously. Like I've said elsewhere, we all have been actually duped and dodged on a many number of things. But some of us are willing to completely go over the deep end and relinquish ALL semblances of basic common sense observations, not to mention comparing the aforementioned to the scientific concenses readily made available for review and consideration by the average lay person.

This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read on BGOL, seriously, fucking WOW!!!

C/S. Sometimes I just feel like we are doomed as a species.

 

[Les W]

Okay...

I read up to about halfway through page number 7 and beheld the most astonishing display of moronic idiocy I have ever seen with my own eyes in modern times.

Something horribly wrong is going on out there with a great many number of people obviously. Like I've said elsewhere, we all have been actually duped and dodged on a many number of things. But some of us are willing to completely go over the deep end and relinquish ALL semblances of basic common sense observations, not to mention comparing the aforementioned to the scientific concenses readily made available for review and consideration by the average lay person.

This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read on BGOL, seriously, fucking WOW!!!

Damn all the classic stuff was on page 8 homie

 

[destrehan]

Okay...

I read up to about halfway through page number 7 and beheld the most astonishing display of moronic idiocy I have ever seen with my own eyes in modern times.

Something horribly wrong is going on out there with a great many number of people obviously. Like I've said elsewhere, we all have been actually duped and dodged on a many number of things. But some of us are willing to completely go over the deep end and relinquish ALL semblances of basic common sense observations, not to mention comparing the aforementioned to the scientific concenses readily made available for review and consideration by the average lay person.

This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read on BGOL, seriously, fucking WOW!!!

so invoking thought on different views is sad and moronic huh? only to the sad and moronic.

 

[komobb]

so invoking thought on different views is sad and moronic huh? only to the sad and moronic.

No but it has to be grounded in good sense and it should be able to stand up to questioning.

 

[LennyNero1972]

Wow just wow, someone actually believes the earth is flat.

 

[destrehan]

Wow just wow, someone actually believes the earth is flat.

another one who didn't read the thread.

 

[ahovah]

fuck da moon

 

[J-BOOGIE]

so invoking thought on different views is sad and moronic huh? only to the sad and moronic.

Naaaah, I feel you in terms of your so-called different invocations, LOL... I just don't think what you have done with this thread fits the bill. So my question to you, on the converse, is do you believe your alternative invocations are valid just because you say that they are? The brother who DOES agree with you, at least partially, even said you have the duty to place your "alternative invocations" within a common context in order to have them appreciated and properly digested.

So...

For example...

If you wish to prove that the earth is either a "cylandrical disc" (and what the fuck is that? A cylander is a CYLANDER and a disc is a DISC --?????) or 2-dimentionally flat with the sun rotating around it or whatever? You have to first of all disassemble the conventionally accepted scientific consensus that the earth is an imperfect (oblong shaped) sphere that revolves around the sun like all other bodies in the solar system. Then you will have to prove how the model of the solar system you propose functions better than the accepted notions. I mean you started this thread questioning the lunar landing. Well, the entire aeronautical and nautical industries in modern times, ballistic weapons technology and so on are based upon the model of the earth and all of it's surrounding spheres (The earth is more than just "terra-forma", but the atmosphere, magnetosphere, etc, etc, etc...) being round.

I mean even with a lava lamp, you have a fluid material, bubbling inside of another fluid material. Where the former mentioned fluid material can be seen to function as like the protomaterial that forms the earth in the weightlessness, or relative weightlessness of the fluid in the lava lamp. It doesn't form a disc or a cylander. It forms in globs. This seems to be the universal format for maleable material floating within a relatively or completely weightless environment. Thus celestial bodies are some diverse form of a sphere, whether perfectly or imperfectly formed.

So what? Do you mean to imply that the earth is a DELIBERATE (only thousands years old) design created by a higher life form? Complete with ready made deceptions that would cause us lower life forms to be DECIEVED into thinking this devinely inspired, created craft comes off as and functions like a sphere? A more deliberate shape meant to imply something other than the perfection of a circle or sphere???

LOL...

Look, let me toss this out to you:

Why do YOU find it easier to believe that the controlling minority would expend SO many resources and effort into creating this deception? Instead of finding some way to make the supposed truth work for them? You have to labor yourself to prove this too.

HOWEVER, before doing so you propose that this minority of folk who taught YOU these ideas and theories you want us to believe. Okay? Is somehow innocent and only interested in spreading truth and understanding, in an effort to enlighten people, right? As opposed to being the conspiratorial scammers themselves?

Dude it is much more ECONOMICAL and frugal to fool a minority then it is to dupe a majority. People like to talk about conspiracies and hoaxes but I wonder what is your practical experience with the same. It's not that easy, really. All it takes is a small ratio of folks out of a given number to question and inspire a larger ratio into suspicion. Than eventually all hell breaks loose. It really isn't worth it. Not to say it doesn't happen, because it does. But for more practical and immediate rewards, not this shit you are proposing in this thread. Thus, ANOTHER burden of truth that rests on YOUR sholders: Explaining to us "sheep" why it is so important for us to continue believing in the institutional baseed deceptions you have presented to us...

Now conning and scamming a minority or smaller group is easier and more immediately rewarding. Thus religious con men and door to door scammers on other levels experience the level of success that they often do. It is much more rewarding and a thousand or so times more likely...

Don't challenge other people into questioning their beliefs until you are prepared to question your own dude...

THIS is where you fail and on multiple levels...

Or at lest that is what I would say, LOL...

 

[kwazdog]

Damn destrehan, I thought you were gonna blow my mind like Morpheus did Neo!! I'm kinda pissed how you dodged most of my questions. Now I'm saying this for your own benefit, so if you cuss me out that's to your own detriment. You strike me as more of an arrogant character. You seem to have a superiority complex that may come from a sense of deeper inferiority, Im saying this with love (no homo). We all have doubts and insecurity, but that's what drives many advid knowledge seekers to do what they do. Striving to "gain" a higher understanding of self and the multiple layers of existence in and around them.

 

[kwazdog]

No but it has to be grounded in good sense and it should be able to stand up to questioning.

The process of elimination an open minded thinkers best friend, If used wisely.

 

[J-BOOGIE]

Damn all the classic stuff was on page 8 homie

LMAO! Naaah, man, page 7 did it for me! I simply couldn't take any more of it...

You cats have fun though, LOL...

 

[komobb]

Naaaah, I feel you in terms of your so-called different invocations, LOL... I just don't think what you have done with this thread fits the bill. So my question to you, on the converse, is do you believe your alternative invocations are valid just because you say that they are? The brother who DOES agree with you, at least partially, even said you have the duty to place your "alternative invocations" within a common context in order to have them appreciated and properly digested.

So...

For example...

If you wish to prove that the earth is either a "cylandrical disc" (and what the fuck is that? A cylander is a CYLANDER and a disc is a DISC --?????) or 2-dimentionally flat with the sun rotating around it or whatever? You have to first of all disassemble the conventionally accepted scientific consensus that the earth is an imperfect (oblong shaped) sphere that revolves around the sun like all other bodies in the solar system. Then you will have to prove how the model of the solar system you propose functions better than the accepted notions. I mean you started this thread questioning the lunar landing. Well, the entire aeronautical and nautical industries in modern times, ballistic weapons technology and so on are based upon the model of the earth and all of it's surrounding spheres (The earth is more than just "terra-forma", but the atmosphere, magnetosphere, etc, etc, etc...). I mean even with a lava lamp, you have a fluid material, bubbling inside of another fluid material. Where the former mentioned fluid material can be seen to function as like the protomaterial that forms the earth in the weightlessness, or relative weightlessness of the fluid in the lava lamp. It doesn't form a disc or a cylander. It forms in globs.

So what? Do you mean to imply that the earth is a DELIBERATE (only thousands years old) design created by a higher life form? Complete with ready made deceptions that would cause us lower life forms to be DECIEVED into thinking this devinely inspired, created craft comes off as and functions like a sphere?

LOL...

Look, let me toss this out to you:

Why do YOU find it easier to believe that the controlling minority would expend SO many resources and effort into creating this deception? Instead of finding some way to make the supposed truth work for them? You have to labor yourself to prove this too.

HOWEVER, before doing so you propose that this minority of folk who taught YOU these ideas and theories you want us to believe. Okay? Is somehow innocent and only interested in spreading truth and understanding, in an effort to enlighten people, right? As opposed to being the conspiratorial scammers themselves?

Dude it is much more ECONOMICAL and frugal to fool a minority then it is to dupe a majority. People like to talk about conspiracies and hoaxes but I wonder what is your practical experience with the same. It's not that easy, really. All it takes is a small ratio of folks out of a given number to question and inspire a larger ratio into suspicion. Than eventually all hell breaks loose. It really isn't worth it. Not to say it doesn't happen, because it does. But for more practical and immediate rewards, not this shit you are proposing in this thread. Thus, ANOTHER burden of truth that rests on YOUR sholders: Explaining to us "sheep" why it is important for us to continue believing in the deceptions you have presented to us...

Now conning and scamming a minority or smaller group is easier and more immediately rewarding. Thus religious con men and door to door scammers on other levels experience the level of success that they often do. It is much more rewarding and a thousand or so times more likely...

Don't challenge other people into questioning their beliefs until you are prepared to question your own dude...

THIS is where you fail and on multiple levels...

Or at lest that is what I would say, LOL...

Very well said.

 

[kwazdog]

Very well said.

C/S

 

[destrehan]

im sorry i let yall down. i don't have answers to all your questions. and j-boogie i been admitted my mistake on saying cylindrical disk. and kwaz you have a right to your opinion but i definitely dont have an inferiority complex.