I think Rev. Wright thew his self in front of the bus for Obama.

OK. Put your campaign hat on.

Once the media let DOCTOR Wright out of the proverbial cage,
and MADE him an issue,
how would you suggest getting him back in?
How do you un ring that bell?

How would you counter all the millions of hits those
sound bites clips of his sermons got on youtube?

Serious. No sarcasm..

DOCTOR Wright didn't jump up and say "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY!!!".

Obama isn't smart enough to do the same shit Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. did to get elected. He's a NEGRO:eek:

Some mysterious white man PAID Wright to say what he said to bring down Obama or Wright is a closet Hillary supporter, or Obama is dumb and soft and just got LUCKY to get this far. ANYTHING but hm being as shrewd a political operative as every other fuckin' president.:rolleyes:
 
OK. Put your campaign hat on.

Once the media let DOCTOR Wright out of the proverbial cage,
and MADE him an issue,
how would you suggest getting him back in?
How do you un ring that bell?

How would you counter all the millions of hits those
sound bites clips of his sermons got on youtube?

Serious. No sarcasm..

DOCTOR Wright didn't jump up and say "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY!!!".

Yo if this was planned/unplanned. Obama made the right play.
You see the whites was not going to let the Rev. Wright thing go. You know Mccain's probably got more info on the Wright deal that they sitting on. Waiting to bring out in the General Election. The only way that Obama can lose the Primary is by Superdelegates...............that he must convince that he will not have any issues defeating McCain.

The only folks that were alienated by Obama's speech were a small segment of black folks. The same black folks who DON'T VOTE........or if in the general election are given a choice between McCain and Obama........would still be FORCED TO CHOOSE OBAMA.
 
Preach on Rev. Wright

There's plenty of crackas preaching but that shit is "free speech". fuck em. fuck em. fuck em.

preach on Black man

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Watch dog, it was right for him to get elected. it may piss a few folks off temporarily, but in the long run, it was the right choice. Obama even baited McCain by saying it was a legit political issue and made McCain blow his wad prematurely.

This is some "Spook Who Sat By The Door" shit.

We'll see, personally I beleive that you do not feed vampires the blood they seek...you stick a cross in they ass. Loyalty is also big within the white mind...Barak done broke that rule to.

If it was planned it is not hard to figure out, that is why they talkin about Barak's judgement now, they won't stop until he is made in their image.
 
Obama isn't smart enough to do the same shit Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. did to get elected. He's a NEGRO:eek:

Some mysterious white man PAID Wright to say what he said to bring down Obama or Wright is a closet Hillary supporter, or Obama is dumb and soft and just got LUCKY to get this far. ANYTHING but hm being as shrewd a political operative as every other fuckin' president.:rolleyes:

Think for a second. Who would Rev. Wright Benefit from the most if PUT IN OFFICE. Who Owes Rev. Wright the most?

A: A man that he married and baptized kids, also helped GAIN the political connections in Chicago to ascend into office.

B: A opportunistic white woman that has called him a Demon


You make the call.
 
OK. Put your campaign hat on.
DOCTOR Wright didn't jump up and say "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY!!!".

Once the media let DOCTOR Wright out of the proverbial cage,
and MADE him an issue,
how would you suggest getting him back in?

How do you un ring that bell?

How would you counter all the millions of hits those
sound bites clips of his sermons got on YouTube?

Serious. No sarcasm..
He should have taken a page from Louis Farrakahn and layed low mrjody. Immediately after they tried to pit Obama against Farrakhan, Farrakahn come out and said he wouldnt play that game because what Barack had going was bigger than he (something to that effect). Wright, on the other hand felt compelled to defend and explain himself over and over and over and over again. He even went as far as having to prove that he wont bite his tongue for anyone while insisting on making his point to every media outlet and gathering of people he could find. Somewhere along the line he seemed to have forgotten that this is bigger than just his right to express himself.

In short, what im saying is that he should have made his point and stepped aside until Barack was out of harms way. Instead, he made his point at the expense of the candidancy. I have a big problem with that.

Again, i would be fine if this were a campaign strategy but it isnt. It reeks of self promotion and male ego run amuck. This has been far too sloppy to have been a planned tactic and it has taken away from Obamas campaign efforts in that he has to constantly restate his stance on the issues being expressed by Rev. Wrong.
 
New York Times APPLAUDS Obama for denouncing Rev. Wright.

It was the most forthright repudiation of an out-of-control supporter that we can remember.


It is an injustice, a legacy of the racist threads of this nation’s history, but prominent African-Americans are regularly called upon to explain or repudiate what other black Americans have to say, while white public figures are rarely, if ever, handed that burden.

Senator John McCain has continued to embrace a prominent white supporter, Pastor John Hagee, whose bigotry matches that of Mr. Wright. Mr. McCain has not tried hard enough to stop a race-baiting commercial — complete with video of Mr. Wright — that is being run against Mr. Obama in North Carolina.

This country needs a healthy and open discussion of race. Mr. Obama’s repudiation of Mr. Wright is part of that. His opponents also have a responsibility — to repudiate the race-baiting and make sure it stops.


:lol:

Here's the link to the rest: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


:confused: Do they know there are white people who attend his church?
 
Yo if this was planned/unplanned. Obama made the right play.
You see the whites was not going to let the Rev. Wright thing go. You know Mccain's probably got more info on the Wright deal that they sitting on. Waiting to bring out in the General Election. The only way that Obama can lose the Primary is by Superdelegates...............that he must convince that he will not have any issues defeating McCain.

The only folks that were alienated by Obama's speech were a small segment of black folks. The same black folks who DON'T VOTE........or if in the general election are given a choice between McCain and Obama........would still be FORCED TO CHOOSE OBAMA.

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We'll see, personally I beleive that you do not feed vampires the blood they seek...you stick a cross in they ass. Loyalty is also big within the white mind...Barak done broke that rule to.

If it was planned it is not hard to figure out, that is why they talkin about Barak's judgement now, they won't stop until he is made in their image.

I see it this way...

Obama was not going to be able to defend Trinity and it's congregation.

Wright was not going to be able to defend himself OR Trinity.

The ONLY way they could fight back was to just DO IT and that is what they did. Explains why the Friday and Saturday engagements were simply uplifting, but the Monday engagement (while not crazy as the press says) was most definitely confrontational as hell. Wright pretty much INVITED the media to trip on him Monday, hell he DARED the media to do it. That gave Obama AND Wright a way out of this shit and a way to move on from it. Wright can flex on whoever he wants to flex on now without worrying about attachments to Obama and Obama can run for president without getting Wright thrown in his face over some manufactured bullshit every five minutes.

Shit is a win-win in the long run for BOTH of them. Whatever happens to Obama from here on in is on Obama. The media is seeing to that.

Cats must really think Obama is MASSIVELY bitch-made if you think he has taken this much abuse this long and was sincerely just TAKING it with no plan of his own. Shitting on Hillary or McCain might make you fell better, shitting on the ENTIRE MSM has to damn near feel like sex.
 
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Think for a second. Who would Rev. Wright Benefit from the most if PUT IN OFFICE. Who Owes Rev. Wright the most?

A: A man that he married and baptized kids, also helped GAIN the political connections in Chicago to ascend into office.

B: A opportunistic white woman that has called him a Demon


You make the call.

It was sarcasm dog.:lol::lol:
 
He should have taken a page from Louis Farrakahn and layed low mrjody. Immediately after they tried to pit Obama against Farrakhan, Farrakahn come out and said he wouldnt play that game because what Barack had going was bigger than he (something to that effect). Wright, on the other hand felt compelled to defend and explain himself over and over and over and over again. He even went as far as having to prove that he wont bite his tongue for anyone while insisting on making his point to every media outlet and gathering of people he could find. Somewhere along the line he seemed to have forgotten that this is bigger than just his right to express himself.

In short, what im saying is that he should have made his point and stepped aside until Barack was out of harms way. Instead, he made his point at the expense of the candidancy. I have a big problem with that.

Again, i would be fine if this were a campaign strategy but it isnt. It reeks of self promotion and male ego run amuck. This has been far too sloppy to have been a planned tactic and it has taken away from Obamas campaign efforts in that he has to constantly restate his stance on the issues being expressed by Rev. Wrong.

There was no real connection between BArack and Farrakhan.
Barack worshiped with DOCTOR Wright for twenty years.

So when America saw Wright as an extremist,
then Barack must've been complicit.

The media brought Wright to our attention.
I had never heard of him.

So once they dug up his sermons and started looping
them shits like Kanye, he had to do something.

Barack miscalculated how big it was gonna be.
That was his error.

He thought that speech about race would be enough.
He thought the outcry was because white folks didn't "understand"..

Well after the speech they still kept at it.
He had to do some "Shock and Awe" shit
to put it to bed forever...
 
New York Times APPLAUDS Obama for denouncing Rev. Wright.

It was the most forthright repudiation of an out-of-control supporter that we can remember.


It is an injustice, a legacy of the racist threads of this nation’s history, but prominent African-Americans are regularly called upon to explain or repudiate what other black Americans have to say, while white public figures are rarely, if ever, handed that burden.

Senator John McCain has continued to embrace a prominent white supporter, Pastor John Hagee, whose bigotry matches that of Mr. Wright. Mr. McCain has not tried hard enough to stop a race-baiting commercial — complete with video of Mr. Wright — that is being run against Mr. Obama in North Carolina.

This country needs a healthy and open discussion of race. Mr. Obama’s repudiation of Mr. Wright is part of that. His opponents also have a responsibility — to repudiate the race-baiting and make sure it stops.


:lol:

Here's the link to the rest: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

well I'll be damned :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Why is it that it is logical to assume EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN schemes and plans to "handle" situations, but Obama can't? Clinton spun a fucking BLOW JOB into positive political capital. Reagan cut a deal to keep the hostages in Iran a few more weeks to get elected and pumped crack into the hood to finance a WAR on the way out. Bush Jr. has scammed the entire country into a WAR and then took a 39% approval rating and transformed it into a REELECTION using gay marriage and terror alerts. Hillary Clinton sent her boy to Canada to cut a NAFTA deal and then LIED and said Obama's boy did it to win Ohio then repackaged her prep school/ Ivy League ass as some beer swillin' coal miners daughter to win Penn. (the bitch got caught cutting NAFTA deals TWICE and still won the rust belt)

But Obama "handling" this situation is beyond comprehension?
 
Bro, its "amazing to conceive" because the shit aint working. This theory would be remotely plausible if a) it were effective and b) they was some rhyme and reason to it. Rev. Wright just wont shut up and doesnt seem to have the ability to pull himself away from a shiney light, mic and camera. Theres a big difference from strategically seperating from someone for political gain and rambling off at the mouth at any and every given opportunity.

If this was a successful strategy Wright would not be discounting Obamas moves as merely "political games" nor would Barack be forced to take time away from campaigning to hold press conferences to denounce his ramblings. This shit is a mess.

You wasteing your time on Absolute Zero, his eye popping, nerve shattering political mind is way above our simple reasoning.

I tell ya, that boy has serious strategic logic that need be with the greats like Kissinger.


"You think I'mma let you talk about my mama"- Rev. Wright.

His reasoning is illogical.



Wootten Hathaway
 
I see it this way...

Obama was not going to be able to defend Trinity and it's congregation.

Wright was not going to be able to defend himself OR Trinity.

The ONLY way they could fight back was to just DO IT and that is what they did. Explains why the Friday and Saturday engagements were simply uplifting, but the Monday engagement (while not crazy as the press says) was most definitely confrontational as hell. Wright pretty much INVITED the media to trip on him Monday, hell he DARED the media to do it. That gave Obama AND Wright a way out of this shit and a way to move on from it. Wright can flex on whoever he wants to flex on now without worrying about attachments to Obama and Obama can run for president without getting Wright thrown in his face over some manufactured bullshit every five minutes.

Shit is a win-win in the long run for BOTH of them. Whatever happens to Obama from here on in is on Obama. The media is seeing to that.

Cats must really think Obama is MASSIVELY bitch-made if you think he has taken this much abuse this long and was sincerely just TAKING it with no plan of his own. Shitting on Hillary or McCain might make you fell better, shitting on the ENTIRE MSM has to damn near feel like sex.

I hear ya, but that is to easy, what I feel would have been more effective is if Obama did'nt reiterate his earlier denouncement, in their eyes this shows weakness, (why do you think they kept on talkin about Wright) now they are only going to go for more. Right now the media is gloating...let a couple days go by, and once hillary announces the next agenda against Obama, watch the media run with it and it will include Wright or Farrakhan.
 
I hear ya, but that is to easy, what I feel would have been more effective is if Obama did'nt reiterate his earlier denouncement, in their eyes this shows weakness, (why do you think they kept on talkin about Wright) now they are only going to go for more. Right now the media is gloating...let a couple days go by, and once hillary announces the next agenda against Obama, watch the media run with it and it will include Wright or Farrakhan.

They will go for more and Obama better grow some balls and say "Enough is enough!" or they will eat him alive. But you don't come up through Chicago politics to this level being a punk. Dude is a politician, if you expect more than that from him, he will disappoint you every time, but as a gamer, he seems to be on point. You have some cats that devote that negative energy to kickbacks and running hoes through the mayors office and other cats that try to see how far they can game the system, but I kinda find it hard to believe a Southside Chitown politician is a punk.
 
You wasteing your time on Absolute Zero, his eye popping, nerve shattering political mind is way above our simple reasoning.

I tell ya, that boy has serious strategic logic that need be with the greats like Kissinger.


"You think I'mma let you talk about my mama"- Rev. Wright.

His reasoning is illogical.



Wootten Hathaway

Bad Debt/ Wooten, I know YOU (of ALL people) are not trying to question my intelligence. You have been a lame ass attention whore for FAR too long. Why don't you go and quote some more "scripture" you fraudulent ass fake Christian hypocrite.
 
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They will go for more and Obama better grow some balls and say "Enough is enough!" or they will eat him alive. But you don't come up through Chicago politics to this level being a punk. Dude is a politician, if you expect more than that from him, he will disappoint you every time, but as a gamer, he seems to be on point. You have some cats that devote that negative energy to kickbacks and running hoes through the mayors office and other cats that try to see how far they can game the system, but I kinda find it hard to believe a Southside Chitown politician is a punk.

Then he should have stuck to his guns after the race speech.
 
That makes no fucking sense, but I'd expect you to cosign the shit. Wright got secretly paid off by a white man to derail Obama's campaign and appears to have failed miserably? That money could be MUCH better spent. Not to mention, it's not likely he would take that deal, it's not like he's hurting for cash and if it ever saw the light of day, he would be SCREWED. How do you discredit a VALID theory with a wild eyed conspiracy theory?

Rev. Wright was the minister that came to the whitehouse to console Hillary when Bill step out with Lewinsky.

Wright knows that its over for Obama and has went on his way.

What was done today was no good for Blacks in no way.

I'm not saying Mr. Jody is way off base either, I'm just saying its not a great scheme in the manor that helps Barry Obama.

He's not out for cash, Wright is doing his job. He knows some of the players and he does have his own ministry and he has a book he wants to release later this year.


Wootten Hathaway
 
There was no real connection between BArack and Farrakhan.
Barack worshiped with DOCTOR Wright for twenty years.

So when America saw Wright as an extremist,
then Barack must've been complicit.

The media brought Wright to our attention.
I had never heard of him.

So once they dug up his sermons and started looping
them shits like Kanye, he had to do something.

Barack miscalculated how big it was gonna be.
That was his error.

He thought that speech about race would be enough.
He thought the outcry was because white folks didn't "understand"..

Well after the speech they still kept at it.
He had to do some "Shock and Awe" shit
to put it to bed forever...
I understand the distinction between Rev Wrong and Farrakahn but the analogy i was making was that instead of taking the bait Farakahn acknowledged it for the devisive tactic that it was and kept it moving. Rev Wrong on the other hand felt the need to take the bait while grandstanding.

Regardless if Obama miscalculated the impact of the soundbites, Rev Wright compounded the issue by insisting on responding to every question and making his rounds on the talk show and public speaking circuit. Whats the purpose? Who's running for office again?
 
:confused: Do they know there are white people who attend his church?

My mom's is an professor of english literature in Chicago and 2 of her co workers are white and are now members of Trinity. lol Trintiy's always had white members, latino members, and black members. lol There are even a few white members on the council committee at Trinity. But the media of course will fail to give that small tiny detail, because they want Wright to be seen as "anti-american" and a "seperatists".:rolleyes:
 
Whats the purpose?

To offer a stark contrast...

Hillary wants you to know Barack is black.
"Make this a hiring decision" she says...

Barack wants Hillary (and the country) to know there are different
types of blacks.

Most white folks don't know that, fam.
 
Yo, you all are definitely on to something...but let's try to keep it quiet for a little longer before the media goes into a frenzy about whether this thing was staged or not...let's not discuss it with all of our friends and family, just the ones we trust...this is Operation Truth right here...

Damn, this was absolute genius
 
This kind of shit is COMMON in local politics, ESPECIALLY CHICAGO area local politics. It ain't that crazy because it's simple as hell. Many a mayor, city councilman, state legislator and STATE SENATOR has MASTERED this game.

How about a certain mobbed up prosecutor in NYC that gained fame by capitalizing on snitches that wanted to get rid of a mob boss that was getting WAY too much shine and getting WAY too much attention that went on to become Mayor due to that HUGE prosecution (that did the NYC mob a HUGE favor because they are now back underground where they liek to be) and was actually a FAVORED Presidential candidate until he got lazy about the shit?

Whose FATHER was actually a mob flunky and may have actually had at least one dinner with the mob?

:cool: OK you have a point there, :yes:

Well, we'll see in any event.
 
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Hillary Clinton sent her boy to Canada to cut a NAFTA deal and then LIED and said Obama's boy did it to win Ohio then repackaged her prep school/ Ivy League ass as some beer swillin' coal miners daughter to win Penn. (the bitch got caught cutting NAFTA deals TWICE and still won the rust belt)

That shit amazed me. People really ARE robots in some places.

Maybe working for factories suspends the intelligence of some folk.
 
Yeah, I think you might've said too much.

Maybe this thread should be locked or deleted...real talk

Not to hate on anyone... but I think the political strategist who do this for a living may have already said something. The Obama camp already figures that the Hillary camp...might know it too.

But even if true...how can the Hillary camp come out with it? The ACCUSATION would make Hillary seem SUPER RACIST and BITTER. The media would have a field day with that....which would point the negative shit back at her.

Plus making "Wild Accusations and Conspiracy Theories" aint gonna help her win Superdelegates.
 
This isnt political chess. Its political homicide. This isnt a situation where the commentary by Wright has served to rally the troops and get support for the Obama camp. This entire fiasco has served as a distraction which has accomplished two things; 1)discrediting Obama as a candidate, and 2) pumping up the price of Rev. Wrights appearance and speaking fees.

Its been very devisive within our community as well (just look at us attack one another on this very board).

Again, i think alot of you are overthinking this and hoping for the best. The truth is this continues to hurt Obama's chances and in no way helps the cause.


Co-sign

Neither one of them won anything.

* Obama is off message - again.:angry:
* The media is talking about Wright more than Obama or his platforms.
* The media is questioning Obama's judgment (more) for sitting underneath this guy for 20 years.
* McCain is sitting back with his feet up.
* Hillary challenging Barak to debates and calling him a pussy essentially.
* NO ONE, including Olberman, is covering this as a win for Obama.
* You have even the most hardcore Obama freaks on THIS board telling him he needs to STFU.

Anyone who thinks any of this was strategically planned is not in touch with reality. NOTHING good is going to come from this - NOTHING. :smh: Wright is the gift that keeps on giving Hillary more time to sway superdelegates and McCain time to raise more funds and 527's the ammunition they need to really attack Obama in the fall. :hmm:


This mess gets more surreal with every minute
 
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