I think Rev. Wright thew his self in front of the bus for Obama.

[mrjody]

Well folks, its funny that Mika from MSNBC was trying to figure this out too (morning Joe) Now, in my opinion, we should not be so boisterous about this theory if it may be true. The Italians are very good at this. They just don't publicize things like this. We all have to remember that this is the only issue they HAVE ON OBAMA; Rev. Wright. Real bad boys move in silence. If you look back at all the data points, debates etc....Hillary was done in Iowa.

We should have class in here; think about all the intricacies that makes a good campaign. The guy’s campaign has raised money like the cancer foundation. I’m not completely sold, but there are theories that could point to this brilliant move by two intelligent black men. Wright laid it down at the NAACP, and especially before the Q & A of the press conference.

If this theory were to be true, the phone call or meeting went like this:
(Rev) He what up Rev?
(Obama) What up Barack?
(Rev) Yo this chick from the Hillary campaign is asking me to go to a National Press information conference…….
(Obama)Well this may be our chance to dispel the myths of the bitter black man……
(Rev) Well you know Barack, if I do this, we cannot be seen in public!
(Obama) I know, but we couldn’t be seen any way…..
(Both) Well let’s make this shit happen…..and make it good…..Peace bro!
(Rev) Peace and kiss the kids for me…….tell Michelle, I love her and this is my honor/duty to you Barack.
(Obama) I know, but you’ve are a brilliant man who’s done so much for me and the community.
(Rev) It’s time to move on take this to a new platform for blacks in general.

Watered down version, just imagining the infinite possibility of this,,,,,,

My work is done here..

 

[Spectrum]

Well folks, its funny that Mika from MSNBC was trying to figure this out too (morning Joe) Now, in my opinion, we should not be so boisterous about this theory if it may be true. The Italians are very good at this. They just don't publicize things like this. We all have to remember that this is the only issue they HAVE ON OBAMA; Rev. Wright. Real bad boys move in silence. If you look back at all the data points, debates etc....Hillary was done in Iowa.

We should have class in here; think about all the intricacies that makes a good campaign. The guy’s campaign has raised money like the cancer foundation. I’m not completely sold, but there are theories that could point to this brilliant move by two intelligent black men. Wright laid it down at the NAACP, and especially before the Q & A of the press conference.

If this theory were to be true, the phone call or meeting went like this:
(Rev) He what up Rev?
(Obama) What up Barack?
(Rev) Yo this chick from the Hillary campaign is asking me to go to a National Press information conference…….
(Obama)Well this may be our chance to dispel the myths of the bitter black man……
(Rev) Well you know Barack, if I do this, we cannot be seen in public!
(Obama) I know, but we couldn’t be seen any way…..
(Both) Well let’s make this shit happen…..and make it good…..Peace bro!
(Rev) Peace and kiss the kids for me…….tell Michelle, I love her and this is my honor/duty to you Barack.
(Obama) I know, but you’ve are a brilliant man who’s done so much for me and the community.
(Rev) It’s time to move on take this to a new platform for blacks in general.

Watered down version, just imagining the infinite possibility of this,,,,,,

 

[xeon]

The more I think about it this really could be on some Ricochet shit.

 

[mrjody]

The more I think about it this really could be on some Ricochet shit.

Nah, those black guys couldn't be THAT smart.

 

[DaleMabry]

He looked pissed and some are STILL saying he didn't look pissed enough, so he pretty much HAD to look pissed.

If Wright had dropped no realness during all of this, he would have REALLY been throwing himself under the bus. You have to look at their intended audiences. Look at it that way and they BOTH won this weekend.

Yeah I keep repeating this to myself.

 

[Amajorfucup]

The more I think about it this really could be on some Ricochet shit.

You brothers watch too much TV. This is nothing more than a well meaning minister being victimized by his run away ego. In the process he happens to be murdering the presidential hopes of one of his long time supporters. Its quite sad to watch.

 

[xeon]

You brothers watch too much TV. This is nothing more than a well meaning minister being victimized by his run away ego. In the process he happens to be murdering the presidential hopes of one of his long time supporters. Its quite sad to watch.

Who says Karl Rove is the only one who can play political chess?

 

[mrjody]

You brothers watch too much TV. This is nothing more than a well meaning minister being victimized by his run away ego. In the process he happens to be murdering the presidential hopes of one of his long time supporters. Its quite sad to watch.

How can he be so well spoken on politics and history and theology,
and so dumb when it comes to understanding his own place in those venues?

 

[Blunt]

Who says Karl Rove is the only one who can play political chess?

Rove didn't play "chess." He ran an assassination squad.

 

[Spectrum]

Who says Karl Rove is the only one who can play political chess?

exactly

 

[kingdon777]

You brothers watch too much TV. This is nothing more than a well meaning minister being victimized by his run away ego. In the process he happens to be murdering the presidential hopes of one of his long time supporters. Its quite sad to watch.

I speak for myself, and humbly admit to watching too much bias coverage of a loop, but no time for TV in general. How can you say that it is ego? Yes the man wanted to defend himself..., but at what cost?

 

[Amajorfucup]

Who says Karl Rove is the only one who can play political chess?

This isnt political chess. Its political homicide. This isnt a situation where the commentary by Wright has served to rally the troops and get support for the Obama camp. This entire fiasco has served as a distraction which has accomplished two things; 1)discrediting Obama as a candidate, and 2) pumping up the price of Rev. Wrights appearance and speaking fees.

Its been very devisive within our community as well (just look at us attack one another on this very board).

Again, i think alot of you are overthinking this and hoping for the best. The truth is this continues to hurt Obama's chances and in no way helps the cause.

 

[Amajorfucup]

How can he be so well spoken on politics and history and theology,
and so dumb when it comes to understanding his own place in those venues?

Power is addictive and intoxicating. The attention and publicity appear to have turned into a stage where he relishes the opportunity to grandstand and show up whitey. I think he initially meant well but allowed himself to get caught in the spiders web. He's being used as a pawn and doesnt seem to understand this. Its saddening to behold.

 

[Amajorfucup]

I speak for myself, and humbly admit to watching too much bias coverage of a loop, but no time for TV in general. How can you say that it is ego? Yes the man wanted to defend himself..., but at what cost?

I call it ego because nothing else would explain his actions in a game where the stakes are as high as they are. He has lost sight of the ultimate goal and instead is intent on promoting himself and his ideals. All the while he is allowing himself to be used abused and painted as a rambling idiot by the media.

This fact becomes all the more depressing when you consider how intelligent and thoughtful he is and wonder how someone as educated can be so stupid and selfish.

 

[Zero]

You brothers watch too much TV. This is nothing more than a well meaning minister being victimized by his run away ego. In the process he happens to be murdering the presidential hopes of one of his long time supporters. Its quite sad to watch.

Why is it so amazing to conceive? White politicians have done it for YEARS. That kind of shit has been part of politics FOREVER. This scheme wouldn't even be as elaborate as some others.

 

[mrjody]

Power is addictive and intoxicating. The attention and publicity appear to have turned into a stage where he relishes the opportunity to grandstand and show up whitey. I think he initially meant well but allowed himself to get caught in the spiders web. He's being used as a pawn and doesnt seem to understand this. Its saddening to behold.

You know what? your right.

DOCTOR Wright is a kook,
who should be pitied and ignored...

Sad old man...

'Least now we know Obama
doesn't share any of his kooky views..

I was kinda scared that if he got elected he might turn into a
black panther or, or, or, a Farrakhan nut or something..
No F.O.I. meeting in the Rose garden, or Huey Newton pictures in
the Lincoln bedroom? Whew. He had me worried..

Guess this Obama guy is pretty normal..despite being a black guy..

Signed

Mr and Mrs. Middle America..

 

[Turbulent]

on one hand it sounds too crazy to be true.

on the other hand, plenty of coincidences and when you follow the money and he benefits from this, it could actually be true. Funny thing is that the media might even realize this (if they aren'tas dumb as they look) but because an Hillary supporter has paid for the Press Club thing, it makes this theory of the perfect con sound like a conspiracy theory which means the media can't report it without looking like kooks. It's like the Hillary supporter paying for the press club thing was the perfect cover up.

again, i'm not even sure if it was all planned and i don't even know if this will benefit Barack although from what i've seen on MSM, they were riding Obama's dikk HARD and even called it Obama's "New Hamsire" moment. girls panties were wet, they even suggested that this might win him a lot of older white female voters because of sympathy. That seems to be the narrative MSM is trying to push at this point. We'll have to wait and see the data to see if it'll be to Obama's advantage but IF he actually pulled the wool over the people's eyes and actually somehow manages to pull it off? If that's the case then Obama and Wright are mothafukking geniuses.

that's the type of shyt you see in movies. it's masterful because he becomes the archetypical hero/good guy again since he had to sacrafice so much which is directly targeted at the kind of voters he needs (white females).



sounds too crazy to be true. and yet...

 

[Zero]

You know what? your right.

DOCTOR Wright is a kook,
who should be pitied and ignored...

Sad old man...

'Least now we know Obama
doesn't share any of his kooky views..

I was kinda scared that if he got elected he might turn into a
black panther or, or, or, a Farrakhan nut or somehting..
Guess this Obama guy is pretty normal..

The black population is IN LOVE with Wright, the media is LOVING Obama right now for "denouncing" Wright. All in the course of one weekend.

 

[Spectrum]

The black population is IN LOVE with Wright, the media is LOVING Obama right now for "denouncing" Wright. All in the course of one weekend.

Being out of the U.S... I can't get that part... is the mass media really eating up the denouncing???

 

[Amajorfucup]

Why is it so amazing to conceive? White politicians have done it for YEARS. That kind of shit has been part of politics FOREVER. This scheme wouldn't even be as elaborate as some others.

Bro, its "amazing to conceive" because the shit aint working. This theory would be remotely plausible if a) it were effective and b) they was some rhyme and reason to it. Rev. Wright just wont shut up and doesnt seem to have the ability to pull himself away from a shiney light, mic and camera. Theres a big difference from strategically seperating from someone for political gain and rambling off at the mouth at any and every given opportunity.

If this was a successful strategy Wright would not be discounting Obamas moves as merely "political games" nor would Barack be forced to take time away from campaigning to hold press conferences to denounce his ramblings. This shit is a mess.

 

[desklamp]

The black population is IN LOVE with Wright, the media is LOVING Obama right now for "denouncing" Wright. All in the course of one weekend.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

How can he be so well spoken on politics and history and theology,
and so dumb when it comes to understanding his own place in those venues?

Jody,
I must admit sir... you have made me go back and look at this whole thing different.
Are we to think that two of the brightest and intelligent black men that have stood together for 20 years (even Obama didn't crucify Wright in Penn). Think about it does Wright have more to gain with his homeboy BARACK in office or Hillary?

Wright is taking one for the team now. Win or lose the Presidency Barack will be an extrodinarily POWERFUL individual. Betcha in about 2 years he will make a point later on to go back and try to have a "public sitdown with his wayward pastor". Which means at that point Barack can funnel money and support the Church. Because Barack refused to "turn his back" on the community that Pastor Wright services. That will be the ANGLE

 

[Zero]

on one hand it sounds too crazy to be true.

on the other hand, plenty of coincidences and when you follow the money and he benefits from this, it could actually be true. Funny thing is that the media might even realize this (if they aren'tas dumb as they look) but because an Hillary supporter has paid for the Press Club thing, it makes this theory of the perfect con sound like a conspiracy theory which means the media can't report it without looking like kooks. It's like the Hillary supporter paying for the press club thing was the perfect cover up.

again, i'm not even sure if it was all planned and i don't even know if this will benefit Barack although from what i've seen on MSM, they were riding Obama's dikk HARD and even called it Obama's "New Hamsire" moment. girls panties were wet, they even suggested that this might win him a lot of older white female voters because of sympathy. That seems to be the narrative MSM is trying to push at this point. We'll have to wait and see the data to see if it'll be to Obama's advantage but IF he actually pulled the wool over the people's eyes and actually somehow manages to pull it off? If that's the case then Obama and Wright are mothafukking geniuses.

that's the type of shyt you see in movies. it's masterful because he becomes the archetypical hero/good guy again since he had to sacrafice so much which is directly targeted at the kind of voters he needs (white females).



sounds too crazy to be true. and yet...

This kind of shit is COMMON in local politics, ESPECIALLY CHICAGO area local politics. It ain't that crazy because it's simple as hell. Many a mayor, city councilman, state legislator and STATE SENATOR has MASTERED this game.

How about a certain mobbed up prosecutor in NYC that gained fame by capitalizing on snitches that wanted to get rid of a mob boss that was getting WAY too much shine and getting WAY too much attention that went on to become Mayor due to that HUGE prosecution (that did the NYC mob a HUGE favor because they are now back underground where they liek to be) and was actually a FAVORED Presidential candidate until he got lazy about the shit?

 

[DiamondDeuce]

The black population is IN LOVE with Wright, the media is LOVING Obama right now for "denouncing" Wright. All in the course of one weekend.

OBAMA,

pretty much has the elected delegation...and popular vote locked up.
The ONLY way that Hillary can win is thru the SUPER DELEGATES.
If Obama schemed this.........it was not to win regular voters.....but to ensure that the Superdelates don't jump ship.

Obama does not have to worry about the Black vote in a General Election. What Niggas going to vote for Mccain?

Plus as another Chess move... Obama is not campaigning for the primary anymore.......all of his strategy is directed at Mccain. Hence Mccain's party had been planning to make a big deal out of the Rev. Wright issue in the General Election. But since now Rev. Wright look like a lunatic...and Obama has already DENOUNCED him... less shit the REPUBS can say.

That Hillary woman has been making calls to all the SD's saying that the REV. WRIGHT shit is would be a big deal in the GENERAL ELECTION.

 

[Zero]

OBAMA,

pretty much has the elected delegation...and popular vote locked up.
The ONLY way that Hillary can win is thru the SUPER DELEGATES.
If Obama schemed this.........it was not to win regular voters.....but to ensure that the Superdelates don't jump ship.

Obama does not have to worry about the Black vote in a General Election. What Niggas going to vote for Mccain?

Plus as another Chess move... Obama is not campaigning for the primary anymore.......all of his strategy is directed at Mccain. Hence Mccain's party had been planning to make a big deal out of the Rev. Wright issue in the General Election. But since now Rev. Wright look like a lunatic...and Obama has already DENOUNCED him... less shit the REPUBS can say.

That Hillary woman has been making calls to all the SD's saying that the REV. WRIGHT shit is would be a big deal in the GENERAL ELECTION.

Fuck killing two birds with one stone, dude drove his car through the pigeon coop. Shit is extreme and damn near political suicide, but what did he really have to loose, cats don't realize how close that super delegate screw job really was to becoming reality after Pennsylvania and the whole "Rednecks will never vote for him" strategy.

 

[mrjody]

Jody,
I must admit sir... you have made me go back and look at this whole thing different.

^^^Thats what you call a "stand-up" dude...

 

[mrjody]

Being out of the U.S... I can't get that part... is the mass media really eating up the denouncing???

He's turned every pontificator into a cheerleader..
Its on every ticker:

BARACK DENOUNCES PASTOR....

He used their machine against them..

Are they eating it?
MSM:

 

[xeon]

Im listening to Mike Malloy right now and Im thinking about all these white folks that are shook. They cannot explain what the hell just happened and are confused why Wright would do it now etc etc.

They don't know if its for fame, clintons, envy.


If this is true it makes a lot of things make sense.

 

[mrjody]

on one hand it sounds too crazy to be true.

on the other hand, plenty of coincidences and when you follow the money and he benefits from this, it could actually be true. Funny thing is that the media might even realize this (if they aren'tas dumb as they look) but because an Hillary supporter has paid for the Press Club thing, it makes this theory of the perfect con sound like a conspiracy theory which means the media can't report it without looking like kooks. It's like the Hillary supporter paying for the press club thing was the perfect cover up.

again, i'm not even sure if it was all planned and i don't even know if this will benefit Barack although from what i've seen on MSM, they were riding Obama's dikk HARD and even called it Obama's "New Hamsire" moment. girls panties were wet, they even suggested that this might win him a lot of older white female voters because of sympathy. That seems to be the narrative MSM is trying to push at this point. We'll have to wait and see the data to see if it'll be to Obama's advantage but IF he actually pulled the wool over the people's eyes and actually somehow manages to pull it off? If that's the case then Obama and Wright are mothafukking geniuses.

that's the type of shyt you see in movies. it's masterful because he becomes the archetypical hero/good guy again since he had to sacrafice so much which is directly targeted at the kind of voters he needs (white females).



sounds too crazy to be true. and yet...

It wasn't all planned. The first salvo was an accident.
They would've been better off with Wright not having been an issue at all.

But once he became an issue, they had to figure out the most
effective way to handle it.

Remember. Barack, Michelle and DOCTOR Wright
is South Side Chi...

Think about it...

 

[Wootten Hathaway]

a white man paying his ass to run his mouth

Bingo!

All that rapper vs rapper art of war BS that some posters thinks are invalid.

You my man have said the key word.



Wootten Hathaway

 

[bklyn1889]

 

[Amajorfucup]

You know what? your right.

DOCTOR Wright is a kook,
who should be pitied and ignored...

Sad old man...

'Least now we know Obama
doesn't share any of his kooky views..

I was kinda scared that if he got elected he might turn into a
black panther or, or, or, a Farrakhan nut or something..
No F.O.I. meeting in the Rose garden, or Huey Newton pictures in
the Lincoln bedroom? Whew. He had me worried..

Guess this Obama guy is pretty normal..despite being a black guy..

Signed

Mr and Mrs. Middle America..

Sarcasm is cool now but lets see how funny it is when the only legitimate black presidential candidate in the history of the world is railroaded by a loudmouthed Rev. who turns out to be yet another book salesmen (a well educated one though) living in a big mansion on the hills.
Black people need another rich egomaniacal minister like we need a hole in the head. Dont get me wrong, this guy serves a purpose (i guess) but if he costs the nation a black president he should be taken out back and shot.

 

[Zero]

Bingo!

All that rapper vs rapper art of war BS that some posters thinks are invalid.

You my man have said the key word.



Wootten Hathaway

That makes no fucking sense, but I'd expect you to cosign the shit. Wright got secretly paid off by a white man to derail Obama's campaign and appears to have failed miserably? That money could be MUCH better spent. Not to mention, it's not likely he would take that deal, it's not like he's hurting for cash and if it ever saw the light of day, he would be SCREWED. How do you discredit a VALID theory with a wild eyed conspiracy theory?

 

[mrjody]

Sarcasm is cool now but lets see how funny it is when the only legitimate black presidential candidate in the history of the world is railroaded by a loudmouthed Rev. who turns out to be yet another book salesmen (a well educated one though) living in a big mansion on the hills.
Black people need another rich egomaniacal minister like we need a hole in the head. Dont get me wrong, this guy serves a purpose (i guess) but if he costs the nation a black president he should be taken out back and shot.

OK. Put your campaign hat on.
DOCTOR Wright didn't jump up and say "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY!!!".

Once the media let DOCTOR Wright out of the proverbial cage,
and MADE him an issue,
how would you suggest getting him back in?

How do you un ring that bell?

How would you counter all the millions of hits those
sound bites clips of his sermons got on YouTube?

Serious. No sarcasm..

 

[Laughing Man]

They even pulled the wool over this know-it-all white bitch's eyes...

No longer is Dr Wright a "problem", along the lines of Farrakahn...

Now he's just a "nut". A "blowhard" if you will

Those two are sharper than you give them credit for..

The white mans arrogance does not allow him to believe that black men
can "throw one past him"..

Barack Obama just Sachel Page'd White America

Damn, I'm ashamed to say I fell for the okey-doke as well

But it did come to mind though, and these are men after all, men dont throw away 20 yrs that lightly

Wow, I may need some time to rethink this shit man

This sint fucking checker, gotta keep remembering that