How was "Space" created before the Universe

[exiledking]

the problem really starts when people start attributing properties, and morality to this "force"

trust me, you're giving this guy too much credit. He sets it up by making it a vague, non attributed form, that he too knows nothing about- and that's fine. The reason he likes to use the term GOD, is because he's about to come in with all kinds of bullshit, describing it in ways that only HE and his initiates know.

Watch-- here he comes now:

Thats why I mentioned greatest force and beyond. But to keep the subject lite, lets only focus on our dimension, but where we live at is complicated enough, shit we can only see and observe way less than 4% of the stuff here so I think it very presumptuous to assume we have a grasp of things in our own dimension let alone some other one.

see here, he seems to know something that no one else in here can understand, so he's being easy on us, and only focusing on - he's still pretending not to know, with the pseudo humble routine. This is meant to disarm you.

You guys have to understand there is a physical side of god = the male principle, which is strait forward and easy to get (especially with the something from nothing), but there is also the female principle (the spiritual side) that is a bit more harder to grasp and cannot be understood unless the male principle is comprehended. This is why I choose not to discuss it as of yet. But like the male principle I can absolutely prove its existence using the physical world. Its just more complicated, (hint DNA)....

Alrighty, now he's cookin. He's now started naming "principles" of this God. Now we are dealing with Gender. And he understands BOTH genders of God, but we're much too far beneath him to discuss it with, so he's not gonna feed steak to us babies, ya see?

Another Hint, there is a reason why the white man took out the female principle from religion....... Those mother fucker know the truth and are hiding it from us!

another HINT? yes, he does know SOMETHING he isn't telling us. Looks like he has it all figured out, WE just don't, and we're too stupid to understand. aaaah, but WHITE people do! And those white people know what he knows, cept he's different from them. He's sent here to EXPOSE them- except he won't expose it to US, cuz we're too stupid to get it. Keep watching...

To have speed or motions there have to be at least two bodies of reference. But to answer your question, does any of the lesser forces of the universe have speed or is effected by time? I suspect that God has more in common with the lesser forces of the universe than anything we can speculate on.

SO, here, he's become a physicist again, and he's answering questions WITH QUESTIONS

Then he begins again to tell you what he REALLY thinks this "force" is. It's better to sit and watch him talk for a while, it's much more entertaining.

 

[H.A.N]

road rage=clown

 

[RoadRage]

Ok now this isn't something I made up, but basically every civilization other than the western white man, understands that there is two components to god, one the physical part, the physical part, things that can be measured and weighed, and the feminine part, the part that cant.
Before you turn up your no it all nose and laugh, think about physical matter vs dark energy and dark matter, just to realize how little there is in the universe that can be weighed, seen and measured.
But just to jump ahead a talk about the femine side of god, or what scientest call mother nature..... Lets examine life, and tell me about how exactly DNA/RNA is supposed to work...... Surely DNA/RNA knows the principles of higher mathematics, but how is that possible with out a brain or computer? And who the fuck programed it in the fist place? Science refers to it as code, but are we supposed to believe that the code programmed itself?
You can view the feminie side of god as the programer and creator of life, once again the something from nothing scenario comes to play, because basically what every is capable of programming DNA/RNA is more powerful than any known force in the universe. Science is not even confronting the subject, at best they are trying to crack the human DNA code, however no one is questioning where this code dame from in the first place.

 

[H.A.N]

Ok now this isn't something I made up, but basically every civilization other than the western white man, understands that there is two components to god, one the physical part, the physical part, things that can be measured and weighed, and the feminine part, the part that cant.
Before you turn up your no it all nose and laugh, think about physical matter vs dark energy and dark matter, just to realize how little there is in the universe that can be weighed, seen and measured.
But just to jump ahead a talk about the femine side of god, or what scientest call mother nature..... Lets examine life, and tell me about how exactly DNA/RNA is supposed to work...... Surely DNA/RNA knows the principles of higher mathematics, but how is that possible with out a brain or computer? And who the fuck programed it in the fist place? Science refers to it as code, but are we supposed to believe that the code programmed itself?
You can view the feminie side of god as the programer and creator of life, once again the something from nothing scenario comes to play, because basically what every is capable of programming DNA/RNA is more powerful than any known force in the universe. Science is not even confronting the subject, at best they are trying to crack the human DNA code, however no one is questioning where this code dame from in the first place.

And exactly what makes your statement credible...because other people think it and they dont in the west? lol


Just because something are more complex then others doesn't mean that the more complex ones did not require it to be desiged. What makes you think that we had to be designed? Who's to say that we are simply the bi-product of a chemical reacition (big bang)Nothing programmed itself, we are all a by product of nature.

Besides what makes all of this a "design".

 

[RoadRage]

And exactly what makes your statement credible...because other people think it and they dont in the west? lol


Just because something are more complex then others doesn't mean that the more complex ones did not require it to be desiged. What makes you think that we had to be designed? Who's to say that we are simply the bi-product of a chemical reacition (big bang)Nothing programmed itself, we are all a by product of nature.

Besides what makes all of this a "design".

Then how do you suppose you get something from nothing?
You may need one of these while your at it...

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[H.A.N]

ever heard of the big bang

 

[BGLR1212000]

And exactly what makes your statement credible...because other people think it and they dont in the west? lol


Just because something are more complex then others doesn't mean that the more complex ones did not require it to be desiged. What makes you think that we had to be designed? Who's to say that we are simply the bi-product of a chemical reacition (big bang)Nothing programmed itself, we are all a by product of nature.

Besides what makes all of this a "design".

you have a brain that allows you to walk and think. you can close your eyes and still see in your mind. need i go on? males have a dick, women have a hole for the dick to go into. sounds like a design to me. take some time to ration things out for yourself, we can only "explain" so much to a skeptic.

 

[exiledking]

you have a brain that allows you to walk and think. you can close your eyes and still see in your mind. need i go on? males have a dick, women have a hole for the dick to go into. sounds like a design to me. take some time to ration things out for yourself, we can only "explain" so much to a skeptic.

It WOULD sound like design to a primitive.

The World also looks flat to you doesn't it.

 

[BGLR1212000]

It WOULD sound like design to a primitive.

The World also looks flat to you doesn't it.

wow what an idiot...still trying to insult people online. That's so 2009.

 

[exiledking]

Then how do you suppose you get something from nothing?
You may need one of these while your at it...

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you have it all figured out- now how did you get the something that can bring something out of nothing?


Now, we're back here again.


cue the White people routine AGAIN

 

[RoadRage]

[FLASH][FLASH][/FLASH][/FLASH]

Mathematics always owns scientist forward to 4:22 in the video, and see how frustrated they are at getting infinity as an answer.. Basically infinity= the God Force, and no matter how the dispelled the notion they always get the same answer.
The even have some fools trying to contemplate if we live in a finite universe or a infinite.
If you say finite then the question is asked what is at the edge of the universe and beyond, if you say nothing, the the question is asked, what is absolute nothing.....
Next you have the school of the universe being infinite, well my question is if the universe is indeed infinite and at one time all matter of this infinite universe was in one spot (the singularity) then suddenly it exploded and was released, well ask yourself this question, if you had a bag of infinite amount of jelly beans and you were to spill them out on the floor, how long would it take for you to empty the bag.... You guessed it, never...... Because it would keep pouring over and over again. The same can be said about the big bang theory dumping dumping an infinite amount of matter in the universe.

 

[exiledking]

wow what an idiot...still trying to insult people online. That's so 2009.

I'm not insulting you, I'm helping you. I don't want you to fall off the planet mr intuition.

 

[RoadRage]

you have it all figured out- now how did you get the something that can bring something out of nothing?


Now, we're back here again.


cue the White people routine AGAIN

Answer the question or at least give your theory or STFU, because you adding absolute nothing to the conversation.....

 

[RoadRage]

ever heard of the big bang

Duh no never heard of it......By the way what is the big bang???? Let see if you can remotly explain the theory.... I will even give you a few mins to google.....

 

[BGLR1212000]

I'm not insulting you, I'm helping you. I don't want you to fall off the planet mr intuition.

dont bother helping, i know all that shit ya'll talkin bout. i been down this road many times only to find out you not gone find the answer on this plane.

 

[H.A.N]

And if i slaped the shit out of you and i created a bruise on your face would that be a "design" to? And evidence of creation and other shit.

you are the one that finds it impressive. Just because the result was impressive does not mean it's a design. Things that interact with each other produce things. chemical reaction.

hydrogen interacts with oxygen you get H20=water.

fire interacts with water then you will see the fire extinguished. if i kicked you i would create a brusie. If semen interacts with an egg you get a baby. A human being is not that complex compared to other things in nature. You are the one that finds it fasinating. You can find anything , any chemical reaction fasinating.

 

[RoadRage]

I'm not insulting you, I'm helping you. I don't want you to fall off the planet mr intuition.

While your at it, can you please explain your theory on General relativity vs Quantom Mechanics just to humor me....

 

[BGLR1212000]

And if i slaped the shit out of you and i created a bruise on your face would that be a "design" to? And evidence of creation and other shit.

you are the one that finds it impressive. Just because the result was impressive does not mean it's a design. Things that interact with each other produce things. chemical reaction.

hydrogen interacts with oxygen you get H20=water.

fire interacts with water then you will see the fire extinguished. if i kicked you i would create a brusie. If semen interacts with an egg you get a baby. A human being is not that complex compared to other things in nature. You are the one that finds it fasinating. You can find anything , any chemical reaction fasinating.

ok, so what is the point you trying to prove? you're not getting anywhere. this is the problem i have with skeptics, you keep coming with counter claims we already know. i need you to tell us some shit we DONT know.

 

[Olosi]

Somebody gave Chimps a slide rule and told them to calculate energy out-put of a nuclear detonation.
And by the way, the gods would like to be kept out of your conversations since you haven't clue one. When was the last time any of you explained yourselves to your sperm?

 

[RoadRage]

And if i slaped the shit out of you and i created a bruise on your face would that be a "design" to? And evidence of creation and other shit.

you are the one that finds it impressive. Just because the result was impressive does not mean it's a design. Things that interact with each other produce things. chemical reaction.

hydrogen interacts with oxygen you get H20=water.

fire interacts with water then you will see the fire extinguished. if i kicked you i would create a brusie. If semen interacts with an egg you get a baby. A human being is not that complex compared to other things in nature. You are the one that finds it fasinating. You can find anything , any chemical reaction fasinating.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner, you have just unraveled the theory of everything.... Mystery Solved and Job Well Done, now Hawkins can die in peace!!!

 

[exiledking]

[FLASH][FLASH][/FLASH][/FLASH]
Mathematics always owns scientist forward to 4:22 in the video, and see how frustrated they are at getting infinity as an answer.. Basically infinity= the God Force, and no matter how the dispelled the notion they always get the same answer.
The even have some fools trying to contemplate if we live in a finite universe or a infinite.
If you say finite then the question is asked what is at the edge of the universe and beyond, if you say nothing, the the question is asked, what is absolute nothing.....
Next you have the school of the universe being infinite, well my question is if the universe is indeed infinite and at one time all matter of this infinite universe was in one spot (the singularity) then suddenly it exploded and was released, well ask yourself this question, if you had a bag of infinite amount of jelly beans and you were to spill them out on the floor, how long would it take for you to empty the bag.... You guessed it, never...... Because it would keep pouring over and over again. The same can be said about the big bang theory dumping dumping an infinite amount of matter in the universe.

now you're back to the gaps thing again. When will you understand that no mathematician, no scientist in any discipline has ever claimed to know it all.

That's religions job.

The Big Bang is a theory. A relatively strong one, supported by a good bt of evidence, all of which is available to be looked at and debated- and changed. But first, you have to acknowledge it's strongpoints. They've been able to observe the expansion of the universe. They've made equations and predictions that have come true. After observing the evidence, with the knowledge the people who study it the most, whilst standing on the shoulders of giants before them (among them, AFRICANS, and the many other ethnic groups in the world), have come up with the best guess as to roughly how old the universe is, how it formed elements and constants, what a good bit of those constants are, and the fact that there are many other variables that have yet to be understood.

For the most part, they've proven to be reliable. Much more reliable than any of the people and ideas you have posted, many of them either outdated, misinformation, half truths, or even outright lies.

You expect us to believe YOU, over this legacy of scholars, simply because you point out that they don't know it all? Or that they are WHITE?

You keep claiming that they're pissed off about it. That assertion in itself shows that you know DICK of what you're talking about. Scientists are not MAD- they're observers. I don't mean to over play it, because they're humans, but we have things in place to check our HUMANNESS at the door, to the best of our ability. That's called the scientific method. It's called Peer review. Falsification, not just by YOU, but by others.

You like EASY answers. You love to end with "SIMPLE". That's your problem. When you're talking about a Universe , and beyond anything any of us can comprehend, you're not dealing with something SIMPLE. If you want that, you would had to be around 14 BILLION YEARS AGO

 

[H.A.N]

Road Rage=i have an explanation for something. Let me run to math.

Oh now i dont have an explanation for everything let me run back to god.

 

[RoadRage]

now you're back to the gaps thing again. When will you understand that no mathematician, no scientist in any discipline has ever claimed to know it all.

That's religions job.

The Big Bang is a theory. A relatively strong one, supported by a good bt of evidence, all of which is available to be looked at and debated- and changed. But first, you have to acknowledge it's strongpoints. They've been able to observe the expansion of the universe. They've made equations and predictions that have come true. After observing the evidence, with the knowledge the people who study it the most, whilst standing on the shoulders of giants before them (among them, AFRICANS, and the many other ethnic groups in the world), have come up with the best guess as to roughly how old the universe is, how it formed elements and constants, what a good bit of those constants are, and the fact that there are many other variables that have yet to be understood.

For the most part, they've proven to be reliable. Much more reliable than any of the people and ideas you have posted, many of them either outdated, misinformation, half truths, or even outright lies.

You expect us to believe YOU, over this legacy of scholars, simply because you point out that they don't know it all? Or that they are WHITE?

You keep claiming that they're pissed off about it. That assertion in itself shows that you know DICK of what you're talking about. Scientists are not MAD- they're observers. I don't mean to over play it, because they're humans, but we have things in place to check our HUMANNESS at the door, to the best of our ability. That's called the scientific method. It's called Peer review. Falsification, not just by YOU, but by others.

You like EASY answers. You love to end with "SIMPLE". That's your problem. When you're talking about a Universe , and beyond anything any of us can comprehend, you're not dealing with something SIMPLE. If you want that, you would had to be around 14 BILLION YEARS AGO

No religion job is to put a face and moral belief on the force of God the same way they used to do with lightning, the sun and stars. I, nor anyone can tell you what God is but based on the evidence I've studied and observed over the years, mathematics (especially geometry) is a big clue and is as close to understanding what god is... Its also interesting how mathematics play a key role in just about every religion, and how the only reason why we are able to know thins such as black holes, dark matter and dark energy exist is due to mathematics. In other words physical science didn't discover shit, its all in math, yet when the same mathematics prove the existence of god or the god force, instead of accepting the calculations, they simply ignore it and hope it goes away..

 

[exiledking]

Duh no never heard of it......By the way what is the big bang???? Let see if you can remotly explain the theory.... I will even give you a few mins to google.....

you should google it. Then go and actually READ ABOUT IT. You don't know it, but everyone in here can tell you don't know WTF you claim to be disputing. I'll readily admit I don't know everything about it, but I know enough to find it to be the best guess we have, ESPECIALLY compared to everything you've brought up

Answer the question or at least give your theory or STFU, because you adding absolute nothing to the conversation.....

again, it isn't MY THEORY. I'm not qualified to make up one. That would take years of study, instruments, observation, and tests against others IN THE FIELD. You seem to think you're qualified though. I'm impressed. Problem is, even a novice like me knows you have no clue what you're talking about.

dont bother helping, i know all that shit ya'll talkin bout. i been down this road many times only to find out you not gone find the answer on this plane.

Sure- I'm sure ya do. Your previous statements tell me all I need to know about you.

While your at it, can you please explain your theory on General relativity vs Quantom Mechanics just to humor me....

Don't know what any of that has to do with the topic- which again shows you're just all over the place. You like it like that, so you can throw shit on the chalkboard.

ok, so what is the point you trying to prove? you're not getting anywhere. this is the problem i have with skeptics, you keep coming with counter claims we already know. i need you to tell us some shit we DONT know.

you're skeptical about the big bang, and probably evolution (I'll venture to make that guess about you)-- based on what?

If you already KNOW about those things, and the foremost scholars of our day don't know anything more- I guess that aint enough for you huh?


You want MORE from BGOL. If someone can PRETEND to know the ultimate answer for you, I suppose you'll take it- cue RELIGION right here.

 

[RoadRage]

Road Rage=i have an explanation for something. Let me run to math.

Oh now i dont have an explanation for everything let me run back to god.

All I said is that you can find the existence of god via Mathematics..... Simply put for those who don't know, infinity is impossible in the physical world, yet in general relativity, when you start formulating complex equitation involving super gravity at the center of a black hole, you come up with the answer of infinity........
Its also a problem when trying to convert the rules of gravity to the very small, thats why you have two schools of science, relativity vs quantum physics, both have their own rules laws and formulas but no one has been able to figure out why there are two sets of laws..

 

[RoadRage]

you should google it. Then go and actually READ ABOUT IT. You don't know it, but everyone in here can tell you don't know WTF you claim to be disputing. I'll readily admit I don't know everything about it, but I know enough to find it to be the best guess we have, ESPECIALLY compared to everything you've brought up



again, it isn't MY THEORY. I'm not qualified to make up one. That would take years of study, instruments, observation, and tests against others IN THE FIELD. You seem to think you're qualified though. I'm impressed. Problem is, even a novice like me knows you have no clue what you're talking about.



Sure- I'm sure ya do. Your previous statements tell me all I need to know about you.



Don't know what any of that has to do with the topic- which again shows you're just all over the place. You like it like that, so you can throw shit on the chalkboard.



you're skeptical about the big bang, and probably evolution (I'll venture to make that guess about you)-- based on what?

If you already KNOW about those things, and the foremost scholars of our day don't know anything more- I guess that aint enough for you huh?


You want MORE from BGOL. If someone can PRETEND to know the ultimate answer for you, I suppose you'll take it- cue RELIGION right here.

You are not qualified to make up a theory, yet you think you are qualified to dispell one with out offering a better explination... This is the education my tax dollars is paying for?

 

[exiledking]

No religion job is to put a face and moral belief on the force of God the same way they used to do with lightning, the sun and stars. I, nor anyone can tell you what God is but based on the evidence I've studied and observed over the years, mathematics (especially geometry) is a big clue and is as close to understanding what god is... Its also interesting how mathematics play a key role in just about every religion, and how the only reason why we are able to know thins such as black holes, dark matter and dark energy exist is due to mathematics. In other words physical science didn't discover shit, its all in math, yet when the same mathematics prove the existence of god or the god force, instead of accepting the calculations, they simply ignore it and hope it goes away..

so we're back here in the "vague God" again huh? wake me when ya start the male/female bullshit again, I like it when you get cookin.

 

[BGLR1212000]

you should google it. Then go and actually READ ABOUT IT. You don't know it, but everyone in here can tell you don't know WTF you claim to be disputing. I'll readily admit I don't know everything about it, but I know enough to find it to be the best guess we have, ESPECIALLY compared to everything you've brought up



again, it isn't MY THEORY. I'm not qualified to make up one. That would take years of study, instruments, observation, and tests against others IN THE FIELD. You seem to think you're qualified though. I'm impressed. Problem is, even a novice like me knows you have no clue what you're talking about.



Sure- I'm sure ya do. Your previous statements tell me all I need to know about you.



Don't know what any of that has to do with the topic- which again shows you're just all over the place. You like it like that, so you can throw shit on the chalkboard.



you're skeptical about the big bang, and probably evolution (I'll venture to make that guess about you)-- based on what?

If you already KNOW about those things, and the foremost scholars of our day don't know anything more- I guess that aint enough for you huh?


You want MORE from BGOL. If someone can PRETEND to know the ultimate answer for you, I suppose you'll take it- cue RELIGION right here.

you dont know jack shit about me son...carry on though, you've damn near derailed the thread.

 

[RoadRage]

Road Rage=i have an explanation for something. Let me run to math.

Oh now i dont have an explanation for everything let me run back to god.

I never pitted math vs god, I said that mathematics is the easiest way of detecting the Force of God, nothing more nothing less... As far as running back to God....... Dude face it, even you dont know what the fuck that is supposed to mean.

 

[exiledking]

Road Rage=i have an explanation for something. Let me run to math.

Oh now i dont have an explanation for everything let me run back to god.

 

[Built4Life]

We are poorly designed. The planet is poorly designed. The universe is poorly designed. No designer in their right mind would create such a monstrosity.

 

[exiledking]

We are poorly designed. The planet is poorly designed. The universe is poorly designed. No designer in their right mind would create such a monstrosity.

unless RR's mathematical God sucks

 

[BGLR1212000]

We are poorly designed. The planet is poorly designed. The universe is poorly designed. No designer in their right mind would create such a monstrosity.

who said things were designed to be perfect?

 

[exiledking]

who said things were designed to be perfect?

what were they designed to be then? I'm curious to know what you actually DO think.

 

[RoadRage]

so we're back here in the "vague God" again huh? wake me when ya start the male/female bullshit again, I like it when you get cookin.

If God is vague, so is gravity, and the other forces of the universe, just because I dont attach any moral explanation behind the God force or lie and said I know the true meaning of god, dosn't mean the force does not exist...
But just to let you know, at one time I was just like you guys. I just found out the organize religion was a scam, and as the result I decided not to believe in anything that was not proved by science...
But then I started really getting into science and mathematics, really understanding and really questioning,only to discover they was doing the same bullshit religion was doing, talking about what they knew but filling in the blanks with bullshit ass theories that dont really explain shit....
One professor came up to me and told me that before the big ban, there was other universes, and that these universes were on thin films and when ever these films would touch each other, there was a spark, creating a big bang...... Seem so smart and so complete of a answer, until I asked him well where did the films come from......... Note I was the only student who asked,,,,, and till this day I am yet to get an plausible explanation on how you can get something from nothing....