How SPIKE LEE and Absolut Vodka SOLD OUT Brooklyn

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How Spike Lee and Absolut Vodka Sold Out Brooklyn
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ee-and-absolut-vodka-sold-out-brooklyn/66328/

I like Spike Lee a lot, as a filmmaker. As a neighbor, not so much. I live in Fort Greene, the Brooklyn neighborhood that Lee's production company, Forty Acres and a Mule, has called home for some 20 years.

My problem with Lee doesn't stem from the usual neighborly complaints; as far as I know, he doesn't let his dog poop in Fort Greene Park, and his company doesn't throw crazy Tuesday-night parties. Rather, my beef is with his latest "joint," a flavored vodka from Absolut called, of course, Absolut Brooklyn. Lee designed the bottle and helped pick the ingredients. The result, he says, is an ode to Brooklyn stoop life. It joins a growing list of city-themed vodkas from the Swedish brand, including Absolut Los Angeles, Absolut New Orleans, and Absolut Vancouver (not sure about that one). Each has a different set of fruit and spice infusions, supposedly locally inspired; Brooklyn is apparently all about ginger and apples. Why not?

A few cineastes have gone after Lee for selling out his artistic reputation to promote vodka. I'm not so bothered by that; Lee can do whatever he wants with his name, including ruin it. Others have lashed out at him for promoting booze in neighborhoods with rampant poverty and alcoholism (a recent survey by the Children's Aid Society found 56 Absolut Brooklyn ads in Bedford-Stuyvesant alone). I have something of a problem with that, but he's hardly alone: P-Diddy hawks Ciroc and Billy Dee Williams sells Colt .45 on ads all over Brooklyn, after all.

What disturbs me is how Lee is selling out not just his name, but also his borough and its culture. Underneath all the talk about "stoop life" and locally inspired flavors is a multinational liquor company eager to take advantage of Brooklyn consumers; to do so, it sought out an archetypal authentic local to give it a level of street cred. And for all his proven commitment to defining and celebrating the borough, Lee gladly signed on.

And there's no question where Lee's allegiances lie. For example: In June, writers and fans converged on the Brooklyn Lyceum, in Park Slope, for the fifth annual Brooklyn Blogfest. This year, for the first time, it had corporate sponsorship: Absolut. Not coincidentally, Lee was the featured speaker. According to the Blogfest's website, he was going to "sound off about how and why Brooklyn remains such a rich source of material and inspiration."

Instead, he talked about Absolut Brooklyn. After a few pointed words on neighborhood development—a core topic for Brooklyn bloggers—he said, "This is to celebrate Absolut, so we're not going to get into gentrification tonight. Sorry, Absolut." As for how to keep Brooklyn a "rich source of material and inspiration," Lee called on the audience to blog about his new vodka and proposed that each neighborhood could come up with its own Absolut Brooklyn-based cocktail.

Maybe Lee just really loves Brooklyn, and this was a great new way to promote it, right? But if that's the case, why didn't he team with one of the many great Brooklyn-born-and-bred breweries and distilleries? Instead, he did the opposite: He gave a big leg up to Pernod-Ricard, the multibillion-dollar French firm that owns Absolut, in its quest to colonize the drinking habits of Lee's beloved borough.

Lee likes to portray himself as an enemy of gentrification and a defender of the traditional, Brooklyn vernacular. Instead, he's become a tool in the borough's commodification and the worst enemy of everything he once stood for.

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yawn just somebody looking for something to complain about. anytime somebody gets something that someone else is not apart of they feel they are selling out... :yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn:


i guess Jay Z sold out Marcy too because the jews now walk the streets like they own it and the projects were somewhat fixed up my mo vaghn
 
yawn just somebody looking for something to complain about. anytime somebody gets something that someone else is not apart of they feel they are selling out... :yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn:


i guess Jay Z sold out Marcy too because the jews now walk the streets like they own it and the projects were somewhat fixed up my mo vaghn

l agree with you. But Spike has to take some of this on the chin. He makes a lot of holier than thou comments. l'm a huge Spike fan, but when u come off as judgmental and preachy, you leave yourself open for articles like this.
 
Corporate sponsorship is not always a bad thing. The same businesses that support an event could probably get it closed down if they had those desires. Also, I doubt the words quoted were all Spike Lee said during the entire talk. :rolleyes:
 
Alcohol and drugs are one of the biggest problems in the Black community. Yet this Malcome X ass nigga got his own bottle?? :thumbsdown:
 
Alcohol and drugs are one of the biggest problems in the Black community. Yet this Malcome X ass nigga got his own bottle?? :thumbsdown:

I understand your comment, but how would you feel if liquor was outlawed in the Black community because black folks don't know how to drink responsibly? I think that's fucked up. That's the same thinking that puts all the gun buy backs in the hood when the suburban cacs are stockpiling them shits. If you are a responsible individual, I don't think you shouldn't be able to make responsible decisions concerning alcohol or anything else. Don't blame Spike Lee.
 
Alcohol and drugs are one of the biggest problems in the Black community. Yet this Malcome X ass nigga got his own bottle?? :thumbsdown:

You're absolutely 100% correct. There are thousands of products out there to promote.

Why choose alcoholic beverages. Either you're a part of the problem or a part of the solution.....Spike seems to enjoy exploitin his own people for a buck....Didn't he used to promote Nikes... Spike needs a reality check...

Right now for Mr Lee its.... don't watch Django cause it exploits black people.... buy my liquor cause its made by me just for us black folk....
 
i one starred this thread... Because i know who the crackers are in this thread.
 
I understand your comment, but how would you feel if liquor was outlawed in the Black community because black folks don't know how to drink responsibly? I think that's fucked up. That's the same thinking that puts all the gun buy backs in the hood when the suburban cacs are stockpiling them shits. If you are a responsible individual, I don't think you shouldn't be able to make responsible decisions concerning alcohol or anything else. Don't blame Spike Lee.

Im not blaming him. Im just saying like someone else said, this nigga stay with the holier than thou mentality but he's promoting alcohol. If Qt had reached out to Spike and offered to pay him for his input on Django, would he have took the job and had a different opinion on the movie? :dunno:
 
I understand your comment, but how would you feel if liquor was outlawed in the Black community because black folks don't know how to drink responsibly? I think that's fucked up. That's the same thinking that puts all the gun buy backs in the hood when the suburban cacs are stockpiling them shits. If you are a responsible individual, I don't think you shouldn't be able to make responsible decisions concerning alcohol or anything else. Don't blame Spike Lee.

No one is saying there should be a ban on liquor, what we are saying is for a man such as spike lee who claims to be socially conscious, this demonstrates a lack of conscious and looks more like exploitation of his own people.... shame on you spike... shame on you
 
If Qt had reached out to Spike and offered to pay him for his input on Django, would he have took the job and had a different opinion on the movie? :dunno:

Excellent point...... and being the attention whore that he is, Spike would have not only taken the money, but he would even be coonin and muggin about how great it is....
 
read the ARTICLE, THE WRITER does NOT make ONE GOOD SOLID POINT about SPIKE....it's a diffuse bunch of confused reasoning...
 
Just dont drink it if you dont want to support it. It's not the best tasting vodka truth be told

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Excellent point...... and being the attention whore that he is, Spike would have not only taken the money, but he would even be coonin and muggin about how great it is....

you do know we know you white right???

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

FUCK ALL YOU CRACKERS... WE ARE HIP TO YOU GUYS MAKING THREADS THEN USING YOUR OTHER NAMES TO COME IN AND GIVE INPUT.
 
you do know we know you white right???

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

FUCK ALL YOU CRACKERS... WE ARE HIP TO YOU GUYS MAKING THREADS THEN USING YOUR OTHER NAMES TO COME IN AND GIVE INPUT.

I believe I've been on this board a helluva lot longer than you and I only use 1 logon...:dance::dance:.... so get off the callin me white shit.....
 
This story is old as shit and only poppin again cuz Lee said what he said, its Bullshit. Oh, niggas cant be capitalists or some shit? Aint that the name of the game? Miss me with what its doing to the hood shit if u aint protestin remy martin and them niggas too. Sets of Django dolls is worth tens of thousands and they just out. QT gettin liscensing fees out the yang of black backs but that shits cool? :angry: Stupid slave shoot some Ireelevant ass crackers and save his speech for the house ******? :angry: Bullshit. Keep falling for these white people tricks
 
This story is old as shit and only poppin again cuz Lee said what he said, its Bullshit. Oh, niggas cant be capitalists or some shit? Aint that the name of the game? Miss me with what its doing to the hood shit if u aint protestin remy martin and them niggas too. Sets of Django dolls is worth tens of thousands and they just out. QT gettin liscensing fees out the yang of black backs but that shits cool? :angry: Stupid slave shoot some Ireelevant ass crackers and save his speech for the house ******? :angry: Bullshit. Keep falling for these white people tricks

But you miss the point.... there are millions of different products he could endorse and promote on this economy. Why choose alcohol which has a terrible history within black neighborhoods.

This is exploitation and it makes him look no different than a drug dealer. Selling alcoholic beverages is simply an attempt to make a fast buck. Is Mr Lee in a cash crunch....must be because he don't have to do things like this to promote products....

Ever notice when a female celebrity is hurtin for cash she turns to nude modeling... well men can't sell themselves as nudes, they turn to sellin drugs...
 
But you miss the point.... there are millions of different products he could endorse and promote on this economy. Why choose alcohol which has a terrible history within black neighborhoods.

This is exploitation and it makes him look no different than a drug dealer. Selling alcoholic beverages is simply an attempt to make a fast buck. Is Mr Lee in a cash crunch....must be because he don't have to do things like this to promote products....

Ever notice when a female celebrity is hurtin for cash she turns to nude modeling... well men can't sell themselves as nudes, they turn to sellin drugs...

sorry dude just dont buy into that shit. nothing wrong with an adult promoting a beverage intended for adults.

there is alcohol and drug abuse in every aspect of life so dont point to the problems with it in the black community and say someone shouldnt associate their names with it.
 
But you miss the point.... there are millions of different products he could endorse and promote on this economy. Why choose alcohol which has a terrible history within black neighborhoods.


Ever notice when a female celebrity is hurtin for cash she turns to nude modeling... well men can't sell themselves as nudes, they turn to sellin drugs...

Dude, thats his fuckin choice! I dont count another mans pockets if he think he got something to bring to the table as a consumer I'm interested. *Shrug* And the holier than thou 'detriment to the community' shit is bullshit too. We're not debating the morals verse ills of the alcohol industry from another perspective its just a business man making another deal. The Kennedys legitimized themselves in america off alcohol come on man, this how the game is played. Everybody drink, folk.:hmm:Thats a leap too i see those adverts everywhere for cognac, remy, henny et al yet cuz his black ass wanna do it u assclowns wanna complain now? fuck outta here
Whatever the fuck that means
 
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its not so much about him supprting an industry that has a pretty definitie negative and destructive role amongst the poor ( poor usually being black )

it is that he is SUCH a preachy bastard - im sorry - but one of the most dangerous things to black america is the new "professional " class of black people who are moving to harlem brooklyn and lately the bronx - and pretty much turning the place in to a bougie convention or just a black version of trendy white hipsters - in the 80's it was yuppies and buppies and its turned back to that same thing - 750,000dollar condos that can only be afforded if you earn 200K in turning a neighborhood thats filled with working people into a cookiecutter overpriced disneyland of "urban" people who really dont give a shit about what or who went before them

again fuck spike lee
 
Dude, thats his fuckin choice! I dont count another mans pockets if he think he got something to bring to the table as a consumer I'm interested. *Shrug* And the holier than thou 'detriment to the community' shit is bullshit too. We're not debating the morals verse ills of the alcohol industry from another perspective its just a business man making another deal. The Kennedys legitimized themselves in america off alcohol come on man, this how the game is played. Everybody drink, folk.:hmm:Thats a leap too i see those adverts everywhere for cognac, remy, henny et al yet cuz his black ass wanna do it u assclowns wanna complain now? fuck outta here
Whatever the fuck that means


Like I've said, either your a part of the problem or a part of the solution.

We can all rationalize in some way a lot of ignorant, negative, stupid behaviors...for example... I bet Eddie long can rationalize how good it is to suck young boys dicks as opposed to older men.... but that still don't make it right....
 
its not so much about him supprting an industry that has a pretty definitie negative and destructive role amongst the poor ( poor usually being black )

it is that he is SUCH a preachy bastard - im sorry - but one of the most dangerous things to black america is the new "professional " class of black people who are moving to harlem brooklyn and lately the bronx - and pretty much turning the place in to a bougie convention or just a black version of trendy white hipsters - in the 80's it was yuppies and buppies and its turned back to that same thing - 750,000dollar condos that can only be afforded if you earn 200K in turning a neighborhood thats filled with working people into a cookiecutter overpriced disneyland of "urban" people who really dont give a shit about what or who went before them

again fuck spike lee

so now spike is responsible for gentrification... :smh::smh::smh::smh::smh: this is the dude who stayed in his neighborhood for all these years but he is responsible for his neighbors selling/losing their properties????

 
its not so much about him supprting an industry that has a pretty definitie negative and destructive role amongst the poor ( poor usually being black )

it is that he is SUCH a preachy bastard

again fuck spike lee

That says it all....
 
so now spike is responsible for gentrification... :smh::smh::smh::smh::smh: this is the dude who stayed in his neighborhood for all these years but he is responsible for his neighbors selling/losing their properties????

Yeah, the writer is on some colonial mindset bullshit....
 
l agree with you. But Spike has to take some of this on the chin. He makes a lot of holier than thou comments. l'm a huge Spike fan, but when u come off as judgmental and preachy, you leave yourself open for articles like this.

Bingo.
 
Like I've said, either your a part of the problem or a part of the solution.

we can't get to the solution and until we stop overlooking the problem... drugs and alcohol are only a byproduct of the bigger problems we always overlook when we point fingers at the small issues.
 
This article, coming from a beneficiary of Gentrification. Who now wants to be "holier than thou" himself as Blacks (along with Latinos and a White working class) are being forced out of neighborhoods like the one Risen moved into.

If people don't see this shit as hypocritical, then no short amount of brain cells can saved them.

I have no doubt Risen's one of those hipster coffee drinkers too. Bet he's not caring about how his java comes here.

And wasn't this shit like three years ago?

I do see Risen's point. But fact is this was another in a long line of brilliant marketing campaigns by Absolut. I was a Stat-Camera operator for an Ad Marketing firm in the 80s that did some minor work for them. And those guys take their product very seriously.

I bought a bottle of Absolut Brooklyn for a "psuedo-girlfriend" (don't ask) in New Orleans who collects these things. As soon as she heard about it, she called me practically every week until I actually was able to find her one to ship. Girl has it prominently displayed with her other collector's alcohol.

As for myself,
I rarely (if ever) touch alcohol these days.
Though since this year will be my 50th Birthday,
I may indulge with some of the things I have planned.

I tell ya.
Ever since Spike made a (VERY BRIEF) remark about "DJANGO UNCHAINED",
The fuckin' Wolves have been out.
 
Some of Y'all didn't even read the article, THE WRITER's FUCKED UP REASONING is that SPIKE SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED A LOCAL ALCOHOL brand......while the writer is probably wearing his MADE IN CHINA shirts (what about the Brooklyn Clothes Brands?)....
 
This article, coming from a beneficiary of Gentrification. Who now wants to be "holier than thou" himself as Blacks (along with Latinos and a White working class) are being forced out of neighborhoods like the one Risen moved into.

If people don't see this shit as hypocritical, then no short amount of brain cells can saved them.

I have no doubt Risen's one of those hipster coffee drinkers too. Bet he's not caring about how his java comes here.

And wasn't this shit like three years ago?

I do see Risen's point. But fact is this was another in a long line of brilliant marketing campaigns by Absolut. I was a Stat-Camera operator for an Ad Marketing firm in the 80s that did some minor work for them. And those guys take their product very seriously.

I bought a bottle of Absolut Brooklyn for a "psuedo-girlfriend" (don't ask) in New Orleans who collects these things. As soon as she heard about it, she called me practically every week until I actually was able to find her one to ship. Girl has it prominently displayed with her other collector's alcohol.

As for myself,
I rarely (if ever) touch alcohol these days.
Though since this year will be my 50th Birthday,
I may indulge with some of the things I have planned.

I tell ya.
Ever since Spike made a (VERY BRIEF) remark about "DJANGO UNCHAINED",
The fuckin' Wolves have been out.

:yes::yes:.....I concur, nicely said
 
Some of Y'all didn't even read the article, THE WRITER's FUCKED UP REASONING is that SPIKE SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED A LOCAL ALCOHOL brand......while the writer is probably wearing his MADE IN CHINA shirts (what about the Brooklyn Clothes Brands?)....

You're right... or we read into it what we wanted. I'll admit I did...
 
Some backward ass folks will search for every opportunity to attack an educated, successful black man who has done nothing to harm them.

some folks in this thread still mad that spike won't go see Django so the witch hunt continues.

If Spike Lee is preachy then you need to reevaluate your choices in life.

This dude has made movies which includes sex, drugs and alcohol as well as lying, stealing and killing.

Preachy my ass.

Man has one wife, no criminal record, a college degree, pays his taxes and don't fuck children and folks find reasons to bitch about him.
 
:hmm:

This was a useless waste of time and the bitch made CLAY RISEN who
wrote the article needs to look in that mirror and probably have a
drink of some Absolute Brooklyn!:smh::rolleyes::D
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SPIKE LEE IS FUCKING UP BROOKLYN:eek::smh::fuckyousay::hithead::suicide::hmm:
 
Ok Everyone is in titled to their opinion. Its not spikes fault that whitey listen to every fucking thing he says. You mad at spike even though you have nothing to say about puffy or Jay Z and these fools have their own alcohol beverage companies or own part of one. GTFO! You fucking crazy! :smh::smh::smh:
 
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