HipHop Is White Now-Scarface interview

[rNubb]

Rap will remain in black-face. It will stay in black-face because rap is about being angry, destructive, self-serving, greedy careless and ego-driven.

These are negative attributes that folks want to explore but not live day-to-day for a lifetime.

Blacks can't control rap because blacks don't buy rap music. The industry just picks a new black face rapper every year or so to say the same stupid shit about balling, selling dope/using dope fighting/killing and fucking hoes.

The white boys put on rap when they exercise or in their cars on the way to school or work or to hangout or party.

They don't live the hip hop lifestyle. They don't care about no history or message or art.

Whites and other non-blacks indulge in rap/ hip hop culture like folks dress up on halloween or like immersing themselves in playing World of Warcraft or like folks coming out of a karate movie and challenging each other to a reenactment of a thrilling scene.

White boys listening to rap don't care anything about black unity, religion, uplifting the community, teenage pregnancy, domestic violence or any real black social and community issues.

They just want a soundtrack for their saturday night club experience then they retreat back to their white reality.

Hip Hop culture is only real to a small minority of black people.
Rap music is the white folks momentary escape from their world perspective.

Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicky Minaj, Rick Ross don't rap for the streets or the hip hop community.

They raps for white consumers.

Rap has been for white folks since the latter part of the 80s.

NWA, MC Hammer, Tone Loc were the early missionaries. They were among the group of first contactees.

 

[jivanbrahman]

Rap will remain in black-face. It will stay in black-face because rap is about being angry, destructive, self-serving, greedy careless and ego-driven.

These are negative attributes that folks want to explore but not live day-to-day for a lifetime.

Blacks can't control rap because blacks don't buy rap music. The industry just picks a new black face rapper every year or so to say the same stupid shit about balling, selling dope/using dope fighting/killing and fucking hoes.

The white boys put on rap when they exercise or in their cars on the way to school or work or to hangout or party.

They don't live the hip hop lifestyle. They don't care about no history or message or art.

Whites and other non-blacks indulge in rap/ hip hop culture like folks dress up on halloween or like immersing themselves in playing World of Warcraft or like folks coming out of a karate movie and challenging each other to a reenactment of a thrilling scene.

White boys listening to rap don't care anything about black unity, religion, uplifting the community, teenage pregnancy, domestic violence or any real black social and community issues.

They just want a soundtrack for their saturday night club experience then they retreat back to their white reality.

Hip Hop culture is only real to a small minority of black people.
Rap music is the white folks momentary escape from their world perspective.

Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicky Minaj, Rick Ross don't rap for the streets or the hip hop community.

They raps for white consumers.

Rap has been for white folks since the latter part of the 80s.

NWA, MC Hammer, Tone Loc were the early missionaries. They were among the group of first contactees.

This plays out in every facet of black life not just the music.

 

[TheFuser]

well one of the biggest problems i'm seeing today is kids telling me that hip hop is just music. The cultural aspect of it is non existent to them. They just see it as music and nothing else. They weren't around when the parents of their friends were calling rap "monkey music" and a fad that would die off. i got into a big argument with a former white co-worker who said, and really believed that hip hop "is not black music. it's American music." FOHWTBS. i was young but i remember when white people were making fun of it (not all... there have always been some white folks who've respected the craft and culture... Rick Rubin!).

One of the kids l mentor has a poem about how white folks stole Rock & Roll and we pretty much handed them that shit. "Now i see what happens when creativity is left unattended... your own folks don't bother to keep it's company."

 

[TheFuser]

if anyone cares to hear the piece i referenced. Talks about how Little Richard was once the king of Rock & Roll and now no one talks about him... it's Elvis.

 

[BKF]

well one of the biggest problems i'm seeing today is kids telling me that hip hop is just music. The cultural aspect of it is non existent to them. They just see it as music and nothing else. They weren't around when the parents of their friends were calling rap "monkey music" and a fad that would die off. i got into a big argument with a former white co-worker who said, and really believed that hip hop "is not black music. it's American music." FOHWTBS. i was young but i remember when white people were making fun of it (not all... there have always been some white folks who've respected the craft and culture... Rick Rubin!).

One of the kids l mentor has a poem about how white folks stole Rock & Roll and we pretty much handed them that shit. "Now i see what happens when creativity is left unattended... your own folks don't bother to keep it's company."

It is American music. just like our history here is American history.

 

[geechiedan]

well one of the biggest problems i'm seeing today is kids telling me that hip hop is just music. The cultural aspect of it is non existent to them. They just see it as music and nothing else. They weren't around when the parents of their friends were calling rap "monkey music" and a fad that would die off. i got into a big argument with a former white co-worker who said, and really believed that hip hop "is not black music. it's American music." FOHWTBS. i was young but i remember when white people were making fun of it (not all... there have always been some white folks who've respected the craft and culture... Rick Rubin!).

One of the kids l mentor has a poem about how white folks stole Rock & Roll and we pretty much handed them that shit. "Now i see what happens when creativity is left unattended... your own folks don't bother to keep it's company."

It is American music. just like our history here is American history.

cosign

 

[TheFuser]

It is American music. just like our history here is American history.

i guess.... it can be an American artform all day... but recognize it's roots. Lots of cultural appropriation and gentrification occurring right now. 25 years from now, Macklemore (who i actually like) or some other white boy will be branded and marketed as the King of Hip Hop. See Elvis for the precedent.

 

[jwilliam85]

Nah Exiled was right.I was going off memory from when I saw it when it 1st aired early 2000s and was incorrect.But that doesn't negate what face said since hes been a top level employee at a record label with decades of industry experience.

If your taking about his MTV DIARY it was a room full of old investors he was playing his music for. So I think you are correct.

 

[BKF]

i guess.... it can be an American artform all day... but recognize it's roots. Lots of cultural appropriation and gentrification occurring right now. 25 years from now, Macklemore (who i actually like) or some other white boy will be branded and marketed as the King of Hip Hop. See Elvis for the precedent.

We the black fan and the artist will be the blame. We don't appreciate the artist and the artist don't appreciate us. We allow white artist to step in and step beyond us. Meanwhile we don't support the black artist for the long haul. They are in today and out tomorrow.
Meanwhile somebody like EM can go away and come back with no problem. We have to change the way we go about things. We have to build a foundation and support it all the way through. Instead of just throwing it away after a certain time frame.

 

[TheFuser]

We the black fan and the artist will be the blame. We don't appreciate the artist and the artist don't appreciate us. We allow white artist to step in and step beyond us. Meanwhile we don't support the black artist for the long haul. They are in today and out tomorrow.
Meanwhile somebody like EM can go away and come back with no problem. We have to change the way we go about things. We have to build a foundation and support it all the way through. Instead of just throwing it away after a certain time frame.

**80s Slow Clap**

No argument from me there. Gets back to the video i posted.

 

[respiration]

if anyone cares to hear the piece i referenced. Talks about how Little Richard was once the king of Rock & Roll and now no one talks about him... it's Elvis.

Damn!
That's inspiring to see that there are some young people who "get it". Powerful performance with an original presentation. Kudos to the young brother.

i guess.... it can be an American artform all day... but recognize it's roots. Lots of cultural appropriation and gentrification occurring right now. 25 years from now, Macklemore (who i actually like) or some other white boy will be branded and marketed as the King of Hip Hop. See Elvis for the precedent.

Yes. So many bombs being dropped in this thread.

 

[respiration]

We the black fan and the artist will be the blame. We don't appreciate the artist and the artist don't appreciate us. We allow white artist to step in and step beyond us. Meanwhile we don't support the black artist for the long haul. They are in today and out tomorrow.
Meanwhile somebody like EM can go away and come back with no problem. We have to change the way we go about things. We have to build a foundation and support it all the way through. Instead of just throwing it away after a certain time frame.

Truth spoken!

 

[Playa2422004]

Rap will remain in black-face. It will stay in black-face because rap is about being angry, destructive, self-serving, greedy careless and ego-driven.

These are negative attributes that folks want to explore but not live day-to-day for a lifetime.

Blacks can't control rap because blacks don't buy rap music. The industry just picks a new black face rapper every year or so to say the same stupid shit about balling, selling dope/using dope fighting/killing and fucking hoes.

The white boys put on rap when they exercise or in their cars on the way to school or work or to hangout or party.

They don't live the hip hop lifestyle. They don't care about no history or message or art.

Whites and other non-blacks indulge in rap/ hip hop culture like folks dress up on halloween or like immersing themselves in playing World of Warcraft or like folks coming out of a karate movie and challenging each other to a reenactment of a thrilling scene.

White boys listening to rap don't care anything about black unity, religion, uplifting the community, teenage pregnancy, domestic violence or any real black social and community issues.

They just want a soundtrack for their saturday night club experience then they retreat back to their white reality.

Hip Hop culture is only real to a small minority of black people.
Rap music is the white folks momentary escape from their world perspective.

Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicky Minaj, Rick Ross don't rap for the streets or the hip hop community.

They raps for white consumers.

Rap has been for white folks since the latter part of the 80s.

NWA, MC Hammer, Tone Loc were the early missionaries. They were among the group of first contactees.

well said

 

[D-TOWN REP]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any of this shit currently "hot" today

 

[shaddyvillethug]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

 

[exiledking]

distributors..

Sony BMG
Warner Music Group
Live Nation
Universal Music Distribution

I challenge you to find one black man in a key position in any of those conglomerates..

those guys who head those depts you're talkin about could give a shit WHAT music gets out, they don't even know the departments like that. They're beholden to stockholders, they have no clue just what rap records come out.

Besides that, we're specifically talking about who was in that office when Jay was playing music, and it DAMN sure wasn't them.

It was some people from BEST BUY because he was doing a program with them,

I've been to meeting like it, those guys are working class slobs like you and I, they're EXCITED when a fucking major artists like Jay takes the time to come in and play his new music for them, makes them work for his project that much harder.

I wish I had the damn video because I remember them gushing over him, happy to be around an artist.

You guys think just any damn body is soooo powerful


we should do the "Scarface is in the illuminati" conspiracy anyway, with all them devilish rhymes he's had before.

I won't do it though, cuz I like Facemob. He be rappin. He should come out with another album

 

[ShortyCumStain]

But mane, that mane Sammy spittin' that shit tho', mane.

If people get up to speed and realize they don't need the industry anymore to find and support good music in this digital age it wouldn't be so bad. But too many people do rely on radio and tv to tell them what's good still, which of course is dictated by these old white men that know nothing about good music or truly care to try put it out there.​

so many people are like sheep they follow whatever is put in their face and down their throat all day

I can wholeheartedly agree w/both of these points too.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any of this shit currently "hot" today

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[keone]

 

[BigATLslim]

great interview but hip hop is already suffering from the same fate as jazz and rock & roll

its only a matter of time

the artists were supposed to protect the culture but they were too quick to sell out

Whelp!

it's fucking common sense.

they who have the gold ....

True. No doubt.

The psychology is what has me now. See when it was just Rick Rubin, I understood.

YouTube is what, over half a decade old.

The internet is what, over 2 decades old.

So what's the excuse now? We can get the gold directly from the consumer.

Masses have more power than they could ever imagine, but they look up to be told what to do vs. looking left to right to tell others "this what 'bout to happen".

Scarface is correct... The problem is money! Anything that makes money CACs swoop in like a shark on blood. If music about beating a old white ladies up sold; some CACs would buy out all the labels and artists and change it to beating old black women up. Black American's suffer from collective amnesia when it comes to whites intent. When NWA went to #1 with no radio play or promotion in 90 it was OVER the next 5 years the artform suffered into everyone is a gangsta rapper moniker. All chains aren't steel, some are made of currency

My grandfather said the negro league selling its players to MLB was a tragedy, told me it killed thousands of jobs and black owned and controlled economy. Same process different industry...Bob Johnson sold B.E.T to Viacom...we create a product, profit, impose our culture, then sell it to a well documented enemy? Rock and Roll, Blues and now Hip-Hop

The face of hip hop is white now! Macklemore went to #1 on hip-hop charts with ZERO Urban or mixshow airplay (first artist to ever accomplish that) Justin Timberlake went to #1 on Urban charts before he went #10 on pop or rhythmic charts (first white artist to ever do that) I've worked in radio since 95 and the takeover is almost complete.

The credit and legacy of hip-hop has been stolen and the black hip-hop artists now are cartoon-ish at best and thrive at our displaying our shortcomings to a beat for CACs to mock. Where is the Meth rap? that drug is ripping through the white world. Where is the shoot up a public place rap? that's how the white youth get down.

If you hear any good hip-hop in 2013 you had to find it, if it's marketed or promoted it has an insidious agenda. Sadly no one will listen to Face and people will bump 2Chainz and Drake...shameful

I didn't say it, you did, but I'ma have to agree witcha.

distributors..

Sony BMG
Warner Music Group
Live Nation
Universal Music Distribution

I challenge you to find one black man in a key position in any of those conglomerates..

You feel me?!

Rap will remain in black-face. It will stay in black-face because rap is about being angry, destructive, self-serving, greedy careless and ego-driven.

These are negative attributes that folks want to explore but not live day-to-day for a lifetime.

Blacks can't control rap because blacks don't buy rap music. The industry just picks a new black face rapper every year or so to say the same stupid shit about balling, selling dope/using dope fighting/killing and fucking hoes.

The white boys put on rap when they exercise or in their cars on the way to school or work or to hangout or party.

They don't live the hip hop lifestyle. They don't care about no history or message or art.

Whites and other non-blacks indulge in rap/ hip hop culture like folks dress up on halloween or like immersing themselves in playing World of Warcraft or like folks coming out of a karate movie and challenging each other to a reenactment of a thrilling scene.

White boys listening to rap don't care anything about black unity, religion, uplifting the community, teenage pregnancy, domestic violence or any real black social and community issues.

They just want a soundtrack for their saturday night club experience then they retreat back to their white reality.

Hip Hop culture is only real to a small minority of black people.
Rap music is the white folks momentary escape from their world perspective.

Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicky Minaj, Rick Ross don't rap for the streets or the hip hop community.

They raps for white consumers.

Rap has been for white folks since the latter part of the 80s.

NWA, MC Hammer, Tone Loc were the early missionaries. They were among the group of first contactees.

Everything, but Hammer. Hammer did it the "right" way and got clowned!

if anyone cares to hear the piece i referenced. Talks about how Little Richard was once the king of Rock & Roll and now no one talks about him... it's Elvis.

Youngin' nailed it! We need more like him. Told how rock n' roll got stolen in less than 5 minutes.