Hillary's resurfacing race problem. (Not Colin friendly)

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Friday, Feb 26, 2016 05:59 AM EST
Hillary Clinton has a race problem — and it’s resurfacing at a dangerous time
A brittle reaction to Black Lives Matter protester on eve of South Carolina refocuses voters on problematic record
Eliza Webb

According to a Feb. 16 CNN/ORC poll, a whopping 65 percent of South Carolinian black voters are planning to support Hillary Clinton in Saturday’s primary, while only 28 percent are planning to support Bernie Sanders.

The furor that broke out last night, however, may just shift the political winds.

In the middle of a $500-per-person Clinton fundraising event in Charleston on Wednesday evening, a young Black Lives Matter activist stepped out in front of the former secretary of state, turned toward the small audience, and held aloft a banner emblazoned with the phrase, “We need to bring them to heel.”

The protester, as she later explained, “wanted to make sure that black people are paying attention to [Clinton’s] record” by drawing attention to the racist rhetoric Clinton used in 1996, when she, as first lady, strongly supported the “tough on crime” method of governance, and successfully lobbied for a bill based on that method to be passed into law.

“They are not just gangs of kids anymore,” Clinton warned the public at the time. “They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we need to bring them to heel.”

The crime bill that Clinton advocated for is now widely regarded as a “terrible mistake,” and the demonizing language that she used to describe young people who belong to gangs (a group that, because of institutionalized racism and oppression, is majority black and Latino/a) would now be political suicide.

Since the ’90s, the Democratic Party — and Hillary Clinton along with it — has morphed from voicing demagogic, dangerous ideas about black children and supporting catastrophic crime policies to, today, speaking of how “we have allowed our criminal justice system to get out of balance,” and promising an end to the decades-long era of mass incarceration, which, of course, they hold much responsibility for creating.

But, despite Clinton’s sudden populist transformation, the memory of the American people isn’t quite so short and fleeting.

Americans remember that Hillary Clinton’s ‘90s policy stances punished those born into systemic racism and poverty by instituting mandatory minimums, eliminating rehabilitative programs for inmates addicted to drugs, implementing the three-strikes law (which Bill now admits “made the problem worse”), expanding the death penalty (which Hillary still supports), and building more prisons countrywide.

Indeed, the ‘94 legislation threw millions of black women and men into prison; in fact, throughout Bill Clinton’s presidency, the black prison population increased by 50 percent.

All of this spelled mass incarceration and mass disenfranchisement for the black Americans of South Carolina.

Today, due to felonies, one out of every 27 black voters in South Carolina is disenfranchised, and, although black people make up just 28 percent of the state’s population, they account for a devastating 62 percent of the prison and jail population, in no small part because of the draconian measures the Clinton administration, along with the strong support of its first lady, took in the name of being “tough on crime.”

And now, 20 years later, at the end of February 2016, Clinton finds herself being directly challenged by a young Black protester named Ashley Williams on her past rhetoric and role in creating America’s stringent criminal justice system, under which people are still being penalized today, including those in South Carolina.

With the state’s primary looming, a respectful and honest response to this confrontation was vitally important for Clinton — and she fell dismally short.

“We want you to apologize for mass incarceration,” Williams said last night, facing the former secretary of state head-on.

“OK fine, we’ll talk about it,” Clinton answered.


“I’m not a super-predator, Hillary Clinton.”

Hisses and grumbles emanated from the audience.

“OK, fine, we’ll talk about it.”

“Can you apologize to black people for mass incarceration?”

“Well, can I talk, and then maybe you can listen to what I say?” Clinton responded.

Following Clinton’s lead, the hissing from the audience amplified.

“Yes, yes, absolutely,” Williams answered.

“OK, fine, thank you very much. There are a lot of issues, a lot issues in this campaign. The very first speech that I gave back in April was about criminal justice reform—“

“You called black people ‘super-predators,’” Williams said, interrupting Clinton to bring the focus back to the words Clinton spoke and the positions she held as first lady.

“Whoa, you’re being rude,” came voices from the audience. “This is not appropriate.”

“Calling people super-predators — that’s what’s rude,” Williams shot back.

Clinton cut her off: “Do you want to hear the facts, or do you just want to talk?”

“You’re trespassing,” a man’s voice rang out.

“Please explain your record to us,” Williams asked Clinton. “You owe black people an apology. You owe people of color an apology.”

“Let her talk, let her talk.” The audience grew louder and angrier on Clinton’s behalf.

“I’ll tell you what, if you will give me a chance to talk, I’ll approach your subject — you know what, nobody’s ever asked me that before,” Clinton said, as Williams was physically removed by a white security guard.
The former secretary of state then turned to her remaining audience and said, “OK, back to the issues.”

The crowd let out a huge sigh, and one woman said, “Thank you!”

Yikes.

(Later Thursday, Clinton sent a statement to the Washington Post apologizing for her ’90s remarks):

In a written response to The Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart on the issue Thursday, Clinton said: “Looking back, I shouldn’t have used those words, and I wouldn’t use them today.”


“My life’s work has been about lifting up children and young people who’ve been let down by the system or by society, kids who never got the chance they deserved,” Clinton continued in the statement. “And unfortunately today, there are way too many of those kids, especially in African-American communities. We haven’t done right by them. We need to. We need to end the school to prison pipeline and replace it with a cradle-to-college pipeline.”

And indeed, three days ago, Clinton stated that, “White Americans need to do a better job at listening when African-Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day. Practice humility rather than assume that our experience is everyone’s experience.”

In South Carolina last night, Clinton blew right past that doctrine.

While the virtually all-white crowd hissed and verbally attacked Williams, Clinton did nothing to quiet them. She did not wield her privilege and position of power to demand those following her show respect to a young woman understandably and rightfully upset by racial injustice.

Instead, she repeatedly snapped at Williams — “Do you want to hear the facts, or do you just want to talk?” — and tried to quickly answer Williams’ call for an apology by discussing the speech she made 10 months ago, instead of the language she used in the ‘90s.

When Williams pressed her to be more specific, Clinton grew even more visibly annoyed and her tone further sharpened — a bad “job [of] listening” with “humility” and giving credit to Williams’ experiences and concerns.

It was a poor showing of Clinton’s comprehension of the severity of the issues facing black Americans. Despite the institutional racism and mass incarceration drowning black Americans today, Clinton acted as though Williams’ emotionally charged protest was completely out of line.

Then, when a white, male security guard put his hands on the young, black, female protester, and forcibly coaxed her away from Clinton, Clinton’s response was, “OK, back to the issues,” not only allowing a young activist to be physically removed from Clinton’s presence, but problematically implying that Clinton’s trustworthiness on black rights and black lives to black voters is not, somehow, one of “the issues.”


Let’s be real: Clinton helped create the mass incarceration state, period.

If she cannot swiftly and straightforwardly apologize to a young black woman for what she did in the ‘90s, Clinton reveals herself to have never thought about her actions, to have never unpacked her white privilege, and to be largely incapable of “practic[ing] [the] humility” she is now calling upon her fellow white Americans to employ.

Williams’ concerns before her protest were in no way dispelled by Clinton’s actions, but rather intensified:

“Hillary Clinton has a pattern of throwing the Black community under the bus when it serves her politically. She called our boys ‘super-predators’ in ’96, then she race-baited when running against Obama in ‘08, now she’s a lifelong civil rights activist. I just want to know which Hillary is running for President, the one from ’96, ’08, or the new Hillary?”


Additionally, Clinton’s record and response last night do not contrast well with Bernie Sanders’, who had this to say in the ‘90s while Clinton was calling young black children “super-predators”:

“We have the highest percentage of people in jail per capita of any nation on earth — what do we have to do, put half the country behind bars?


Mr. Speaker, instead of talking about punishment and vengeance, let us have the courage to talk about the real issue — how do we get to the root causes of crime?


…And, Mr. Speaker, I’ve got a problem! I’ve got a problem with a president and a Congress that allows five million people to go hungry, two million people to sleep out on the street, cities to become breeding grounds for drugs and violence — and they say we’re getting tough on crime.


If you want to get tough on crime, let’s deal with the causes of crime. Let’s demand that every man, woman, and child in this country have a decent opportunity and a decent standard of living.

Let’s not keep putting more people into jail and disproportionately punishing Blacks.”


In comparison to Sanders’ positions in the ‘90s, and in light of how Clinton responded last night to questions about her past —over which there is already a growing controversy — South Carolinian black voters may very well shift their support to the candidate who has never depicted their children as having “no conscience, no empathy” or being “super-predators,” but called for “every man, woman, and child in this country [to] have a decent opportunity” since the ‘90s.

Either way, the entire country will find out the day after tomorrow.


 
With the state’s primary looming, a respectful and honest response to this confrontation was vitally important for Clinton — and she fell dismally short.

Because she was in the presence of a white well to do audience that could afford a 500 dollar per person event.

Had she been in a church she would have flashed her fake smile and pretended to give a fuck.
 
Hillary Clinton’s Race Problem
Peter N. Kirstein / 3 days ago


BY PETER N. KIRSTEIN

In 2008, then Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (Dem. NY)–she avoids using her family name and prefers the title “Mrs.” to garner presumably the anti-feminist vote-was engaged in one of the most epic contests in American history for the Democratic-presidential nomination.

In May 2008, her first presidential bid was stagnating having lost BOTH the Indiana and North Carolina Democratic-party primaries, and encountering the growing impact of Barack Obama’s charismatic and grass-roots headwinds. She sat down for an interview with USA TODAY and used her fairer skin to gain a political advantage over her African-American rival, the senator from Illinois. These were her precise words in the USA TODAY interview that have apparently been forgotten by those who claim she is the champion of minority rights, and tout her majority support within the African-American community:

“I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” Mrs. Clinton stated in referencing a story in the Associated Press that heralded her support among white voters. “[It] found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.” Mrs. Clinton then told the paper, “There’s a pattern emerging here.” (Emphasis added)

Indeed a pattern emerges of race-baiting and appealing to white-supremacist voters. While this interview received someexposure, it was variously described as “clumsy” or “dumb.” Its shelf life was short as a cynical effort to utilise the race card for political advantage. Hillary Clinton defended the remarks as a solid rendition of exit polling. It was not raised in her confirmation hearings as secretary of state by the Senate when only two Senators in 2009 appropriately voted against confirmation.

The Senate avoided the implications of such racialism with its sole intent to gain a political advantage with a direct appeal to white voters in future primary states. It is certainly in my estimation, in addition to her criminal support of mass murder in the Iraq War, a prima facie disqualifier for serving as president. No candidate for that office should get a one-day pass for racism, a one-interview exemption for using race as a political wedge to satisfy her blind ambition.

Secretary Clinton should be challenged vigorously and relentlessly for this comment. It was neither taken out of context nor an informal statement not meant for public consumption. It was calculated self-promotion on electability to two reporters, Kathy Kiely and Jill Lawrence. Such a shameful statement is egregious. One should question a candidate’s fitness for president in the context of such a remark. While the Congressional Black Caucus and other establishment African-Americans such as Assistant Democratic Leader Jim Clyburn have endorsed this self-absorbed candidate, other luminaries such as Representative Keith Ellison, Spike Lee, Killer Mike, Benjamin Jealous, Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover have refused to endorse her candidacy and have supported Senator Bernie Sanders.
 
Because she was in the presence of a white well to do audience that could afford a 500 dollar per person event.

Had she been in a church she would have flashed her fake smile and pretended to give a fuck.

Bernie's comments about the crime bill were vastly different from hers, to say the least.

Additionally, Clinton’s record and response last night do not contrast well with Bernie Sanders’, who had this to say in the ‘90s while Clinton was calling young black children “super-predators”:

“We have the highest percentage of people in jail per capita of any nation on earth — what do we have to do, put half the country behind bars?
Mr. Speaker, instead of talking about punishment and vengeance, let us have the courage to talk about the real issue — how do we get to the root causes of crime?
…And, Mr. Speaker, I’ve got a problem! I’ve got a problem with a president and a Congress that allows five million people to go hungry, two million people to sleep out on the street, cities to become breeding grounds for drugs and violence — and they say we’re getting tough on crime.
If you want to get tough on crime, let’s deal with the causes of crime. Let’s demand that every man, woman, and child in this country have a decent opportunity and a decent standard of living.

Let’s not keep putting more people into jail and disproportionately punishing Blacks.”
 
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Non violent and factual at that. Confronts or challenges are more accurate terms.

Hillary double talking too. Talking about "do you want to hear the facts?" :lol: We know them "facts."

It always reminds me of watching Katrina footage on TV and them showing white people coming out of stores wading through the water and hearing them describe them as survivors doing what they have to do to live.

Switch to black people and they are looters stealing TV's I presume they said and all I could think of was what would they do with a TV in a fucking flood and since when did TVs come in papmers bags
 
It always reminds me of watching Katrina footage on TV and them showing white people coming out of stores wading through the water and hearing them describe them as survivors doing what they have to do to live.

Switch to black people and they are looters stealing TV's I presume they said and all I could think of was what would they do with a TV in a fucking flood and since when did TVs come in papmers bags

To top it off, some of those "survivors" were carrying electronics!
 
Hilary think she is some how absolved from her husband's record..

We are in the age of Aquarius and black folk starting to be illuminated (knowledge of self)

You can't take black folk for granted anymore Billary... Fuck you and your husband
 
Hilary think she is some how absolved from her husband's record..

We are in the age of Aquarius and black folk starting to be illuminated (knowledge of self)

You can't take black folk for granted anymore Billary... Fuck you and your husband

She doesn't have to. Some of us are doing it for her. Just like one of her surrogates said in S.C.: "That was a long time ago. We black people don't care about that now."
 
See that's the bullshit because people think black folk in SC and the sharp tons speak for all black people..

You folk need to keep the pressure on her

I bothers me that a lot of her voters won't vet her like they do Bernie. I respect whomever you support and vote for, I just don't like the selective vetting we tend to do.
 
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I bothers me that a lot of her voters won't vet her like they do Bernie. I respect whomever you support and vote for, I just don't like the selective vetting we tend to do.

No doubt, they acting like the election is hers.. She falling right into the trap like she thought it was hers in 08
 
Hillary is not a great politician... Not quick on her feet, charismatic or anything. Just riding Bill's coattails. I dislike that cac, but he knows how to work a room. Left on her own she would max out as a rep of a small district. Maybe.

Just 2 days before this she was in Harlem talking about "white people need to listen when African Americans talk about race"... And you see how she "listened"

:smh:
 
Yeah billy said sum foul shit back in 08!! I wonder why that hasn't come out..

Bill Clinton's 2 a.m. Phone Call to Jim Clyburn
In a new memoir, the South Carolina congressman recounts a late night tirade by the former president.

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Former President Bill Clinton, left believed Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., right, was personally responsible for his wife’s 29-point loss in South Carolina.

By David CataneseFeb. 11, 2014, at 12:51 p.m.+ More
South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn stayed publicly neutral during most of the epic 2008 presidential primary battle between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

But former President Bill Clinton believed Clyburn was personally responsible for his wife’s 29-point drubbing in the pivotal Palmetto State -- and he let him know it in no uncertain terms.

In a new memoir -- “Blessed Experiences: Genuinely Southern, Proudly Black” -- due out this spring, Clyburn recounts how an irate Bill Clinton called him the early morning after the January primary at 2:15 a.m. to take him to task.

“If you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one,” Clinton thundered.

[READ: FreedomWorks Searches for the Next Ted Cruz]

As Clyburn tells it, the former president phoned to pin blame on the congressman, vent his frustration and seek an explanation on how his wife got whipped so badly.

Clyburn reminded Clinton he had pledged neutrality to the Democratic National Committee as a condition of them authorizing the South Carolina primary.

“I had kept that promise. I asked him to tell me why he felt otherwise. He exploded, used the word ‘bastard’ again, and accused me of causing her defeat and injecting race into the contest,” Clyburn writes.

At the time though, it was the Clintons who were accused of playing racial politics.

Earlier that month, Hillary Clinton seemed to suggest in an interview that President Lyndon Johnson had a more important role in passing the Civil Rights Act than Martin Luther King Jr. -- the implication being that while the civil rights icon’s voice was important, it took a president to pass the landmark legislation.

In a brushback to Clinton, Clyburn told the New York Times it was “disingenuous to suggest which was more important.”

“That episode bothered me a great deal,” he writes.

But the former president was also perturbed about an off-the-cuff comment Clyburn made about him on CNN just five days ahead of the primary, when he said he should “just chill out.”

“Friendships were being strained and at times like that we could have used a little restraint from the candidates and their campaigns. That’s the signal I intended to send,” Clyburn recalls. “It probably sounded a little provocative. I guess that’s how Bill Clinton took it.”

[ALSO: Obama, Hollande Focus on Iran, Trade, Climate During State Visit]

The conversation between the two political luminaries that night concluded with “abrupt goodbyes.”

“It was clear that the former president was holding me personally responsible for his wife’s poor showing among South Carolina black voters, and it was also clear that our heated conversation had not changed his mind,” Clyburn writes.

But that wasn’t the end of the feud.

The next morning, Clinton made his now infamous remark comparing Obama’s South Carolina victory to that of Jesse Jackson’s caucus win twenty years earlier.

“Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here,” he said.

Not only did Clyburn interpret the comments as dismissive of Obama’s impressive accomplishment, he felt that again Clinton was opening racial fault lines.

“Bill Clinton wasn’t just defining his wife’s loss in South Carolina as a ‘black political event,’ he was defining it as a ‘Jim Clyburn black southern event.’ So this is what he meant when he said he’d show us a fight,” Clyburn writes.

Clyburn didn’t formally endorse Obama until June, the day before the Montana and South Dakota primaries. He recalls that former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson had urged him to get on board.

“Do it Jimmy, and do it now,” Richardson said in a phone call.

[MORE: Chris Christie Hauls in GOP Governors' Record January Cash Total]

But in reality, his decision seemed like a foregone conclusion. Clyburn had privately supported Obama back in January, when he voted for him in South Carolina.

“How could I ever look in the faces of our children and grandchildren had I not voted for Barack Obama?,” he told his wife.

Clinton called Clyburn again in March before the Super Tuesday primaries to apologize for his earlier tirade. Still stung by that middle of the night altercation, the congressman did not immediately respond.

“He said he was not going to hang up until I accepted. I accepted halfheartedly, and the phone call ended,” Clyburn writes.

But it wasn’t until late August, after Obama was the nominee, when the two reconciled. They had a small-talk conversation at the funeral of Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio. “As is often the case in such matters, it wasn’t what we said, it was the quiet tone of how we said it,” he writes.

In an interview in August, Clyburn said he considered the flare-up with the Clintons mostly water under the bridge, but he also declined to jump on the Hillary Clinton 2016 bandwagon.

“I’ve never endorsed an unannounced candidate for anything and I’m not going to start now,” he said.

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Bill Clinton's 2 a.m. Phone Call to Jim Clyburn
In a new memoir, the South Carolina congressman recounts a late night tirade by the former president.

85


Former President Bill Clinton, left believed Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., right, was personally responsible for his wife’s 29-point loss in South Carolina.

By David CataneseFeb. 11, 2014, at 12:51 p.m.+ More
South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn stayed publicly neutral during most of the epic 2008 presidential primary battle between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

But former President Bill Clinton believed Clyburn was personally responsible for his wife’s 29-point drubbing in the pivotal Palmetto State -- and he let him know it in no uncertain terms.

In a new memoir -- “Blessed Experiences: Genuinely Southern, Proudly Black” -- due out this spring, Clyburn recounts how an irate Bill Clinton called him the early morning after the January primary at 2:15 a.m. to take him to task.

“If you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one,” Clinton thundered.

[READ: FreedomWorks Searches for the Next Ted Cruz]

As Clyburn tells it, the former president phoned to pin blame on the congressman, vent his frustration and seek an explanation on how his wife got whipped so badly.

Clyburn reminded Clinton he had pledged neutrality to the Democratic National Committee as a condition of them authorizing the South Carolina primary.

“I had kept that promise. I asked him to tell me why he felt otherwise. He exploded, used the word ‘bastard’ again, and accused me of causing her defeat and injecting race into the contest,” Clyburn writes.

At the time though, it was the Clintons who were accused of playing racial politics.

Earlier that month, Hillary Clinton seemed to suggest in an interview that President Lyndon Johnson had a more important role in passing the Civil Rights Act than Martin Luther King Jr. -- the implication being that while the civil rights icon’s voice was important, it took a president to pass the landmark legislation.

In a brushback to Clinton, Clyburn told the New York Times it was “disingenuous to suggest which was more important.”

“That episode bothered me a great deal,” he writes.

But the former president was also perturbed about an off-the-cuff comment Clyburn made about him on CNN just five days ahead of the primary, when he said he should “just chill out.”

“Friendships were being strained and at times like that we could have used a little restraint from the candidates and their campaigns. That’s the signal I intended to send,” Clyburn recalls. “It probably sounded a little provocative. I guess that’s how Bill Clinton took it.”

[ALSO: Obama, Hollande Focus on Iran, Trade, Climate During State Visit]

The conversation between the two political luminaries that night concluded with “abrupt goodbyes.”

“It was clear that the former president was holding me personally responsible for his wife’s poor showing among South Carolina black voters, and it was also clear that our heated conversation had not changed his mind,” Clyburn writes.

But that wasn’t the end of the feud.

The next morning, Clinton made his now infamous remark comparing Obama’s South Carolina victory to that of Jesse Jackson’s caucus win twenty years earlier.

“Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here,” he said.

Not only did Clyburn interpret the comments as dismissive of Obama’s impressive accomplishment, he felt that again Clinton was opening racial fault lines.

“Bill Clinton wasn’t just defining his wife’s loss in South Carolina as a ‘black political event,’ he was defining it as a ‘Jim Clyburn black southern event.’ So this is what he meant when he said he’d show us a fight,” Clyburn writes.

Clyburn didn’t formally endorse Obama until June, the day before the Montana and South Dakota primaries. He recalls that former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson had urged him to get on board.

“Do it Jimmy, and do it now,” Richardson said in a phone call.

[MORE: Chris Christie Hauls in GOP Governors' Record January Cash Total]

But in reality, his decision seemed like a foregone conclusion. Clyburn had privately supported Obama back in January, when he voted for him in South Carolina.

“How could I ever look in the faces of our children and grandchildren had I not voted for Barack Obama?,” he told his wife.

Clinton called Clyburn again in March before the Super Tuesday primaries to apologize for his earlier tirade. Still stung by that middle of the night altercation, the congressman did not immediately respond.

“He said he was not going to hang up until I accepted. I accepted halfheartedly, and the phone call ended,” Clyburn writes.

But it wasn’t until late August, after Obama was the nominee, when the two reconciled. They had a small-talk conversation at the funeral of Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio. “As is often the case in such matters, it wasn’t what we said, it was the quiet tone of how we said it,” he writes.

In an interview in August, Clyburn said he considered the flare-up with the Clintons mostly water under the bridge, but he also declined to jump on the Hillary Clinton 2016 bandwagon.

“I’ve never endorsed an unannounced candidate for anything and I’m not going to start now,” he said.

http://www.usnews.com/news/features...el=90080&sitesection=ndn1_usnews&vid=30373587

Damn. And like a good ho, he went and got daddy his money. :smh:

I totally get the whole electability thing, but don't be acting like all is forgiven.
 
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Bill Clinton's 2 a.m. Phone Call to Jim Clyburn
In a new memoir, the South Carolina congressman recounts a late night tirade by the former president.

85


Former President Bill Clinton, left believed Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., right, was personally responsible for his wife’s 29-point loss in South Carolina.

By David CataneseFeb. 11, 2014, at 12:51 p.m.+ More
South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn stayed publicly neutral during most of the epic 2008 presidential primary battle between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

But former President Bill Clinton believed Clyburn was personally responsible for his wife’s 29-point drubbing in the pivotal Palmetto State -- and he let him know it in no uncertain terms.

In a new memoir -- “Blessed Experiences: Genuinely Southern, Proudly Black” -- due out this spring, Clyburn recounts how an irate Bill Clinton called him the early morning after the January primary at 2:15 a.m. to take him to task.

“If you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one,” Clinton thundered.

[READ: FreedomWorks Searches for the Next Ted Cruz]

As Clyburn tells it, the former president phoned to pin blame on the congressman, vent his frustration and seek an explanation on how his wife got whipped so badly.

Clyburn reminded Clinton he had pledged neutrality to the Democratic National Committee as a condition of them authorizing the South Carolina primary.

“I had kept that promise. I asked him to tell me why he felt otherwise. He exploded, used the word ‘bastard’ again, and accused me of causing her defeat and injecting race into the contest,” Clyburn writes.

At the time though, it was the Clintons who were accused of playing racial politics.

Earlier that month, Hillary Clinton seemed to suggest in an interview that President Lyndon Johnson had a more important role in passing the Civil Rights Act than Martin Luther King Jr. -- the implication being that while the civil rights icon’s voice was important, it took a president to pass the landmark legislation.

In a brushback to Clinton, Clyburn told the New York Times it was “disingenuous to suggest which was more important.”

“That episode bothered me a great deal,” he writes.

But the former president was also perturbed about an off-the-cuff comment Clyburn made about him on CNN just five days ahead of the primary, when he said he should “just chill out.”

“Friendships were being strained and at times like that we could have used a little restraint from the candidates and their campaigns. That’s the signal I intended to send,” Clyburn recalls. “It probably sounded a little provocative. I guess that’s how Bill Clinton took it.”

[ALSO: Obama, Hollande Focus on Iran, Trade, Climate During State Visit]

The conversation between the two political luminaries that night concluded with “abrupt goodbyes.”

“It was clear that the former president was holding me personally responsible for his wife’s poor showing among South Carolina black voters, and it was also clear that our heated conversation had not changed his mind,” Clyburn writes.

But that wasn’t the end of the feud.

The next morning, Clinton made his now infamous remark comparing Obama’s South Carolina victory to that of Jesse Jackson’s caucus win twenty years earlier.

“Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here,” he said.

Not only did Clyburn interpret the comments as dismissive of Obama’s impressive accomplishment, he felt that again Clinton was opening racial fault lines.

“Bill Clinton wasn’t just defining his wife’s loss in South Carolina as a ‘black political event,’ he was defining it as a ‘Jim Clyburn black southern event.’ So this is what he meant when he said he’d show us a fight,” Clyburn writes.

Clyburn didn’t formally endorse Obama until June, the day before the Montana and South Dakota primaries. He recalls that former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson had urged him to get on board.

“Do it Jimmy, and do it now,” Richardson said in a phone call.

[MORE: Chris Christie Hauls in GOP Governors' Record January Cash Total]

But in reality, his decision seemed like a foregone conclusion. Clyburn had privately supported Obama back in January, when he voted for him in South Carolina.

“How could I ever look in the faces of our children and grandchildren had I not voted for Barack Obama?,” he told his wife.

Clinton called Clyburn again in March before the Super Tuesday primaries to apologize for his earlier tirade. Still stung by that middle of the night altercation, the congressman did not immediately respond.

“He said he was not going to hang up until I accepted. I accepted halfheartedly, and the phone call ended,” Clyburn writes.

But it wasn’t until late August, after Obama was the nominee, when the two reconciled. They had a small-talk conversation at the funeral of Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio. “As is often the case in such matters, it wasn’t what we said, it was the quiet tone of how we said it,” he writes.

In an interview in August, Clyburn said he considered the flare-up with the Clintons mostly water under the bridge, but he also declined to jump on the Hillary Clinton 2016 bandwagon.

“I’ve never endorsed an unannounced candidate for anything and I’m not going to start now,” he said.

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Maybe, the time has come that we cut the ties with these so-called civil right leaders!!
 
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