Has Steph Curry supplanted LeBron as the 'Best Player in the World?' (CP Alert)

[BronxBomber]

That's all I'm saying. In context, what he's doing is incredibly rare. I think it's hard to come to grips with because he's doing it from the perimeter and we've not had a player dominate the game from long range.

I used to think he would have gotten worked in a previous area because of his durability...but it's not because of the contact or hand-checking aint working on a guy w/ those types of handles that can pull up from 27 feet off the dribble man.. you can't defend that..in any era.

While that is true hard to defend out there, but he HAS to go to the rack sometime. He would not have not had the cake walk he has now. Back then PG's and SG's went to the rack would go to the rack and get hacked to the point of broken and fractured bones. Hand checking works on EVERYBODY if done correctly lol...

I think currys game would translate in any era.
He's knocking down high difficulty shots in people's face nightly.
I swear some of the shots are off his hip, shits crazy.

He is amazing but do you think Isiah, Starks, Reggie, etc would let him do that without the punishment. It changes the way you play. Of course this is all what ifs, and maybes, my point is not saying he couldn't play in any era it would just be interesting to see how he would have to change his game.

 

[ballscout1]

Let's not do that bs.
.
Lebron is great he can do everything you said however people always talk about a stacked team full of players outside of klay and green that nobody wanted lol

Iggy been in the nba Livingston Barbosa etc those dudes were getting cut by 20 win teams and traded out of Philly for peanuts

Let's not rewrite history like those dudes are max players that got together

It's just a gm doing a good job of putting pieces together and drafting well
Nobody wanted Andrew bogut.

Which makes a great team...

those role players you named by themselves are mediocre but together they fits.

same way SA drafts and trades for players that fit.....

that team as it stands is a great team. regardless how it got made..

they fit and compliment.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

truth be told it should be called MPP.. most popular player

I knew he would get his 2nd as soon as they gave Kerr coach of the year even though he only coached half a season.

engineered a 73 game season is very generous....

How the fuck is it generous? How many game winners did he hit this year while averaging 30 a game? Lol.
.and he didn't rest 30 games either

 

[BronxBomber]

Not really. His team would be different. He'd have goons on the team to make sure he didn't get broken up

Couldn't hide like that back then lol. You had to get the rock as a PG. You had to feel the fire. I was very fortunate to always see the Knicks Vs Bulls games on either XMAS or Thanksgiving almost floor seats (Uncle corporate seats). What you would hear sounded like cats was damn near playing football lol

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

if curry fell off bigtime nobody would be calling him the goat..nobody would say they'll take him over magic or oscar...juss let the kid play and we'll see how he'll do in the future.. 2 yrs ago nobody would've made this thread so let's see if 2 yrs from now will he at least deserve 1

I'm not arguing hes the goat or will be
I am saying stop bringing up dudes who didn't win rings and don't have multiple MVPs into his conversation that's all

 

[Spectrum]

there actually CAN be more than one so called GOAT.

Agreed. That's why I listed multiple players and said "goat status".

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

So if he does this for 5 more seasons you wouldn't put him in the argument?

Personally maybe.
And he plays for my team. He'll be the standard for the 1.
I don't believe in goat and I don't think Jordan is the goat you know who I think is

 

[ballscout1]

He's not lol. He shoots in the flow of the offense
Last night he deferred to klay cause klay was hot and then closed the deal.

That's last night....

 

[therealjondoe]

While that is true hard to defend out there, but he HAS to go to the rack sometime. He would not have not had the cake walk he has now. Back then PG's and SG's went to the rack would go to the rack and get hacked to the point of broken and fractured bones. Hand checking works on EVERYBODY if done correctly lol...




He is amazing but do you think Isiah, Starks, Reggie, etc would let him do that without the punishment. It changes the way you play. Of course this is all what ifs, and maybes, my point is not saying he couldn't play in any era it would just be interesting to see how he would have to change his game.

While that is true hard to defend out there, but he HAS to go to the rack sometime. He would not have not had the cake walk he has now. Back then PG's and SG's went to the rack would go to the rack and get hacked to the point of broken and fractured bones. Hand checking works on EVERYBODY if done correctly lol...




He is amazing but do you think Isiah, Starks, Reggie, etc would let him do that without the punishment. It changes the way you play. Of course this is all what ifs, and maybes, my point is not saying he couldn't play in any era it would just be interesting to see how he would have to change his game.

Sure they would knock him around but like bills said the team would be built differently ie enforcers
Shooting is a skill that translates any era.
And his ball handling is arguably better than all them guys listed.

 

[BronxBomber]

He's arguably a better ball handler than them cats.
Sure they would knock him around but like bills said

Sure they would knock him around but like bills said the team would be built differently ie enforcers
Shooting is a skill that translates any era.
And his ball handling is arguably better than all them guys listed.

He is a better ball handler cause he can't be touched lol. Its easier to handle the ball when cats not hacking you lol

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

you are uninformed if you think AI.

AI could make a bad team competitive and took a half asses team to the finals



Jordan had great roles players Curry has players who could be their teams star.

Right cause pippen isn't a top 50 player and took the Blazers to the conference finals and Rodman had absolutely no pedigree or success without Jordan. .

Ron harper was a better player than majority of this warriors team

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

when he becomes a great two way player. Right now he hides very well in the team defense.

Leading the nba in steals is hiding very well.

Stop.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Which makes a great team...

those role players you named by themselves are mediocre but together they fits.

same way SA drafts and trades for players that fit.....

that team as it stands is a great team. regardless how it got made..

they fit and compliment.

But not indivdual game changers like ppl try to make them seem

Lebron absolutely took a trash team to the finals and got brat

He won with multiple hof players on the roster.

That's important to point out

 

[Built4Life]

There's a big difference between Steph Curry & Magic Johnson, as far as 'defense' goes...

Because Magic could DEFEND all 5 positions.
He played BOTH sides of the ball, at every spot.

Not just offense alone.

2x NBA Playoffs steals leader (1980, 1982)
2x NBA Playoffs total steals leader (1980, 1983)

Curry cannot DEFEND power forwards & centers (down in the paint) like Magic could.

Magic was never known for his defense and steals don't necessarily equate to good defense considering defense is mostly a team concept.

 

[Winslow Wong]

When Naismith created the game - it had one pardon the pun goal - put the ball in the hoop - over the years the game has evolved into a ballet of sorts as players developed a variety of ways to get the ball into the hoop but at the end of the day - the ability to drop bombs from anywhere on the court makes you a valuable player so as that goes, Steph Curry is one of the most valuable - GOAT? - the game goes two ways and MJ won multiple Defensive Player of the year as well as scoring championships, MVPs and 6 rings.

Steph might be the greatest player of this era but I am not sure about all time.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Man. Be objective. How many players have you seen be this dominant? And extrapolate this out over a few more years? He wouldn't be in the argument?

Dude, hes had ONE SEASON where he has played on an all world level. ONE. And hes 27 years old

If we're talking about trajectory and career numbers extrapolation... Go transpose his to those of others in the GOAT and elite conversations and note their numbers before the age of 27. This guy doesnt even fucking register!!!!

Man this is insane. You niggas make me out to be this raging SC hater but clearly thats needed to offset the copious amounts bullshit you guys pile on in the form of hype for this pale face fuck.

 

[therealjondoe]

Right cause pippen isn't a top 50 player and took the Blazers to the conference finals and Rodman had absolutely no pedigree or success without Jordan. .

Ron harper was a better player than majority of this warriors team

Shit pippen led that same Jordan less team damn near to ring.
Rodman is an all time great defender/rebounder

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

That's last night....

Klay has a 30 point quarter this year.

Klay steps up then he will pass it to him klay just been playing smedium
Once klay plays like he's capable he'll always defer.

 

[RED]

Steph is easily on the way to being the GOAT shooter of all time, but not the GOAT of all time, not until he gets more hardware and is consistent over time. Jordan will continue to be the GOAT overall because of his impact on the game and his success at the PEAK of DEFENSIVE BASKETBALL...and is the thing that makes him the GOAT over Bill Russell who has more hardware. Until the NBA returns to its defensive peak other players will pale in comparison, so even if the Jordan era fans "die off" you cant deny that defense has fallen far from where it was and therefore the game is a bit weaker as a result. Don't get me wrong Curry hits some amazing shots and has to fight like hell to get open, but until you get put on your ass and feel like the opposing team is out to take your head off its a different game. What has changed between this year and last year that this GS team can win so much?

Curry has also impacted the game in a big way but negatively, he is causing an entire generation to focus on taking the crazy shots he takes and that will destroy the fundamentals of team basketball for the foreseeable future, go to any park or gym and watch the youngins play and you'll see his poor influence.

 

[2 ONE 3]

Steph is easily on the way to being the GOAT shooter of all time, but not the GOAT of all time, not until he gets more hardware and is consistent over time. Jordan will continue to be the GOAT overall because of his impact on the game and his success at the PEAK of DEFENSIVE BASKETBALL...and is the thing that makes him the GOAT over Bill Russell who has more hardware. Until the NBA returns to its defensive peak other players will pale in comparison, so even if the Jordan era fans "die off" you cant deny that defense has fallen far from where it was and therefore the game is a bit weaker as a result. Don't get me wrong Curry hits some amazing shots and has to fight like hell to get open, but until you get put on your ass and feel like the opposing team is out to take your head off its a different game. What has changed between this year and last year that this GS team can win so much?

Curry has also impacted the game in a big way but negatively, he is causing an entire generation to focus on taking the crazy shots he takes and that will destroy the fundamentals of team basketball for the foreseeable future, go to any park or gym and watch the youngins play and you'll see his poor influence.

I gotta agree with the impact on the game. Every kid these days thinks they Steph....Mid Range has become a lost art

It's either shooting long ass 3s or penetrating to the hole.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Shit pippen led that same Jordan less team damn near to ring.
Rodman is an all time great defender/rebounder

Right.

My thing is who knows what he'll be bUT
Don't prop up his role players to be all world outside of klay and green which is 3 not a full roster of crazy ppl everyone wanted

Don't compare him to dudes without rings and multiple MVPs

That's all

I have no idea what he'll be.
What he is, is, the 2nd best player in the nba right now and he's just getting started

 

[Rudey]

if curry fell off bigtime nobody would be calling him the goat..nobody would say they'll take him over magic or oscar...juss let the kid play and we'll see how he'll do in the future.. 2 yrs ago nobody would've made this thread so let's see if 2 yrs from now will he at least deserve 1

Curry doesn't even win the championship this year yet and look what people start to discuss.

Kobe retired and Lebron is a season vet. People are searching for that new guy to compare him to MJ.

 

[Spectrum]

Dude, hes had ONE SEASON where he has played on an all world level. ONE. .

I think his production last year, winning an nba title last season, and also winning nba MVP is a good enough qualifier to say two dominant back to back season.
This season in particular has just be one of the greatest seasons any play has ever had if he caps it off with a title.

So my question is... what does he have to do? Is it just a matter of just doing what he's done the last two seasons for more seasons? If his current production dominant enough?

I'm asking questions.

 

[Spectrum]

Shit pippen led that same Jordan less team damn near to ring.

Pippen won ONE playoff series, boss.. ONE. How is winning on playoff season damn near winning a ring? They didnt even make the conference finals. Thats like saying Lillard almost lead portland to a ring.

 

[Spectrum]

Steph is easily on the way to being the GOAT shooter of all time, but not the GOAT of all time, not until he gets more hardware and is consistent over time. .

Your answer is YES then..because I clearly qualified is it just a matter of doing what he's doing now for more seasons.

I also didn't say GOAT. I said one of the GOATs .

 

[Amajorfucup]

I think his production last year, winning an nba title last season, and also winning nba MVP is a good enough qualifier to say two dominant back to back season.

Nah. Last year his numbers were 23 7 4... Nothing to warrant GOAT thread. And the more we see of this team (with and without him) the more we see its a group effort (not to minimize his worth or greatness but to contextualize it as it pertains to GOAT discussions).

ONE SEASON.. and not until age 27. Nobody else in the GOAT convo has that lull.

So my question is... what does he have to do? Is it just a matter of just doing what he's done the last two seasons for more seasons? If his current production dominant enough?

Ummm yea. Isnt that the true determiner of all time greatness? Sustainability and longevity. Derrick Rose says hi. shaddy had him in the Hall Of Fame four years ago.

I'm asking questions.

Nah. You know what you doing..

spectrum<<<<

 

[Amajorfucup]

Curry doesn't even win the championship this year yet and look what people start to discuss.

Before OP changed his name, he would enter a thread like this and post the same reply you just did.

Now he making the threads...

 

[therealjondoe]

Pippen won ONE playoff series, boss.. ONE. How is winning on playoff season damn near winning a ring? They didnt even make the conference finals. Thats like saying Lillard almost lead portland to a ring.

55 win team and a call away from the confrence finals. The point was Jordan had great teammates too

 

[Spectrum]

Ummm yea. Isnt that the true determiner of all time greatness? Sustainability and longevity.

D. Rose hasnt even played in an NBA Finals.

But again.. if he does what he's done over the next 2 seasons for 4-5 more years, would that put him in the conversation.

I'm dead serious. I want to know how people are judging the guy.

I was disgusted w/ the top players of all time list that came out (earlier this year) and they had him over Zeke. However, it's pretty clear that he's going to grow into the ranking and end up better than Zeke.

 

[2 ONE 3]

Why is anyone mentioning D. Rose?


Dude has no seat at this table smh

 

[theteacher]

he's getting his game up there... They have a good team.

 

[Spectrum]

Before OP changed his name, he would enter a thread like this and post the same reply you just did.

Now he making the threads...

Naw man. It's time to start qualifying what we're seeing.

Youve been watching ball since 1940 so you know we're seeing something remarkable.

I'm asking if he continues to what he's doing now, would it be enough?

Or if there something else he needs to do with his current game?

Another poster said he needed to become a better two-way player. That's a good point. At the same time, it could be a Randy Moss thing. Randy
Moss didn't run the full route tree, but he didn't need to .

 

[Spectrum]

The point was Jordan had great teammates too

You could make the argument Jordan had better teammates. Rodman and Pippen are certainly better than Klay and Greene. I don't see how that negatively impacts Curry though.

 

[Amajorfucup]

D. Rose hasnt even played in an NBA Finals.

Not the fucking point. Thats a team accomplishment. And if he didnt run into a bulldozer with a prime Bron, Bosh, Wade (3 hall of famers) he does. They had him out there with a fucking Loul Deng...

Dude has no seat at this table smh

And as of today, neither does Curry.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Youve been watching ball since 1940 so you know we're seeing something remarkable.

This is also why i know you need to pump the fucking brakes you young piece of shit!!!!

ONE SEASON!!!!!

eewwll>>>>>>> spectrum