Has Steph Curry supplanted LeBron as the 'Best Player in the World?' (CP Alert)

[Spectrum]

I wont front Im part of the I hate Jordan but he was the greatest to me. What Steph is doing now is UNREAL.... He does have to maintain this for 3-4 more years for me to say he is close to Jordan....

Its partially because I think the rules cater to his game play more. He would have gotten broken up in the 90s.

That's all I'm saying. In context, what he's doing is incredibly rare. I think it's hard to come to grips with because he's doing it from the perimeter and we've not had a player dominate the game from long range.

I used to think he would have gotten worked in a previous area because of his durability...but it's not because of the contact or hand-checking aint working on a guy w/ those types of handles that can pull up from 27 feet off the dribble man.. you can't defend that..in any era.

 

[ankhheru]

Curry's body of work so far is no where near LBJ. Don't get caught up in his last couple of seasons. See me in 13 seasons then we can have this conversion.

 

[therealjondoe]

I wont front Im part of the I hate Jordan but he was the greatest to me. What Steph is doing now is UNREAL.... He does have to maintain this for 3-4 more years for me to say he is close to Jordan....

Its partially because I think the rules cater to his game play more. He would have gotten broken up in the 90s.

I think currys game would translate in any era.
He's knocking down high difficulty shots in people's face nightly.
I swear some of the shots are off his hip, shits crazy.

 

[NER0]

6 time champion, 6 time Finals Mvp, 5 time league Mvp, etc... That's the GOAT..
Steph has a ways to go to get in that convo... But he's the best Right now.

 

[ballscout1]

There's a big difference between Steph Curry & Magic Johnson, as far as 'defense' goes...

Because Magic could DEFEND all 5 positions.
He played BOTH sides of the ball, at every spot.

Not just offense alone.

2x NBA Playoffs steals leader (1980, 1982)
2x NBA Playoffs total steals leader (1980, 1983)

Curry cannot DEFEND power forwards & centers (down in the paint) like Magic could.

Magic is the only player in NBA history to start at all 5 positions in a NBA finals series.

And he actually played the positions..

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

There's a big difference between Steph Curry & Magic Johnson, as far as 'defense' goes...

Because Magic could DEFEND all 5 positions.
He played BOTH sides of the ball, at every spot.

Not just offense alone.

2x NBA Playoffs steals leader (1980, 1982)
2x NBA Playoffs total steals leader (1980, 1983)

Curry cannot DEFEND power forwards & centers (down in the paint) like Magic could.

Yea neither could anone thats not six foot nine lol

 

[Spectrum]

Curry's body of work so far is no where near LBJ. Don't get caught up in his last couple of seasons. See me in 13 seasons then we can have this conversion.

I'm not talking about full body of work. I'm talking about right NOW. Is he the better player now? Obviously Lebron has the better career.

I've been arguing for most of the year that Lebron was still #1... but I'm really starting to question that now.

 

[ballscout1]

I think currys game would translate in any era.
He's knocking down high difficulty shots in people's face nightly.
I swear some of the shots are off his hip, shits crazy.

Curry is a volume shooter and he shoots many bad shots..he just makes them..

he is that cat ,coach on the bench screaming no no no no good shot.

and there are many games when he shooting terribly for 3 quarters and they catches fire in the 4th..

but his game definitely doesn't translate because his bony ass would get broke

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

barry played 10 yrs and jim played like 8 or more... very diff compared to like 5.. both those dudes dominated throughout their career juss not 2... derrick rose had an mvp yr are u gonna say he's top 5 point guard ever??? prob not cause his talent went down bigtime after injuries..if curry got injured next yr and never averages 20 points a game ever again are u gonna call him the goat?? exactly..let dude continue his career first b4 u put him in that talk

I don't understand the need to compare curry to dudes not on his damn level.

Derrick rose won the mvp and did not win the nba championship.

Curry now has 2 MVPs and an nba championship and engineered a 73 win season.

All of these should coulda woulda people bring up did not win rings or multiple MVPs

Let's stop bringing up lower tier players.

 

[Spectrum]

6 time champion, 6 time Finals Mvp, 5 time league Mvp, etc... That's the GOAT..
Steph has a ways to go to get in that convo... But he's the best Right now.

I tried to frame this avoid this type of response. First off, we're going to leave the GOAT as just being in a group of people that others consistently argue for....

2nd.. the question is "if he continues to play at his level, is he in the argument?"

It's qualifying his current play.

There were many great players who had back to back great seasons that never had this type of impact so the question never needed to be ask what would it mean if this was extrapolated out.

 

[therealjondoe]

some people would say steph didn't deserve his last yr... heck there's a thread where some people don't think he deserved it this yr.. but that's on a matter of opinion the reality rose did get 1 and people were extra hyped about him now look..dwight howard was loved yrs ago now look at him.. people need to stop getting hyped on a few yrs of explosion and wait it out to see what happens... cause if mysteriously this guy falls off and his team starts the fail all the fake warrior fans will disappear and all the curry cheerleaders will act like they wasn't riding his talking about goat and best pg ever cause he had 2 great yrs... dude doin his thing but the goat talk is way to premature

Don't mention those other guys with curry.
We've seen those type players before.
Steph is something different.
I never heard anyone say steph didn't deserve that mvp.
Also he was the first unanimous mvp.
The convo is based on if he continues on this level and the way his game is predicated it relies on skill more than athleticism imo, unless he has a debilitating injury I don't see him falling off.

 

[tallblacknyc]

I don't understand the need to compare curry to dudes not on his damn level.

Derrick rose won the mvp and did not win the nba championship.

Curry now has 2 MVPs and an nba championship and engineered a 73 win season.

All of these should coulda woulda people bring up did not win rings or multiple MVPs

Let's stop bringing up lower tier players.

if curry fell off bigtime nobody would be calling him the goat..nobody would say they'll take him over magic or oscar...juss let the kid play and we'll see how he'll do in the future.. 2 yrs ago nobody would've made this thread so let's see if 2 yrs from now will he at least deserve 1

 

[ballscout1]

I don't understand the need to compare curry to dudes not on his damn level.

Derrick rose won the mvp and did not win the nba championship.

Curry now has 2 MVPs and an nba championship and engineered a 73 win season.

All of these should coulda woulda people bring up did not win rings or multiple MVPs

Let's stop bringing up lower tier players.

truth be told it should be called MPP.. most popular player

I knew he would get his 2nd as soon as they gave Kerr coach of the year even though he only coached half a season.

engineered a 73 game season is very generous....

 

[Spectrum]

Curry is a volume shooter and he shoots many bad shots..he just makes them..

They're not bad shots when you consistently make them. Bad shot is literally a difficult shot that you're unlikely to make. That's the definition.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Be objective.

I know you can win the MVP and still not be considered the best player in the league.

Independent of circumstances, has Curry become the "best player" in the league?

Assuming that the Warriors win a title this year w/ curry playing the way he has, and the warriors win more with him also continue to play how he is playing or possibly getting better... can he reach goat status?

And by goat "status" I mean in the class of Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Wilt... people that have legitimate arguments.
changing range, and is one of the best ball-handlers in the game.

This is troll shit bro... Im highly disappointed in you.

Change your name back fam.. Something aint been right since the switch my nigga.

 

[therealjondoe]

Curry is a volume shooter and he shoots many bad shots..he just makes them..

he is that cat ,coach on the bench screaming no no no no good shot.

and there are many games when he shooting terribly for 3 quarters and they catches fire in the 4th..

but his game definitely doesn't translate because his bony ass would get broke

Nah
Isn't he more efficient than mj while taking higher difficulty shots?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I wont front Im part of the I hate Jordan but he was the greatest to me. What Steph is doing now is UNREAL.... He does have to maintain this for 3-4 more years for me to say he is close to Jordan....

Its partially because I think the rules cater to his game play more. He would have gotten broken up in the 90s.

Not really. His team would be different. He'd have goons on the team to make sure he didn't get broken up

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

6 time champion, 6 time Finals Mvp, 5 time league Mvp, etc... That's the GOAT..
Steph has a ways to go to get in that convo... But he's the best Right now.

I don't think he'll be goat. I think he'll be the new standard for shooting killer instinct as a pg

 

[ballscout1]

Don't mention those other guys with curry.
We've seen those type players before.
Steph is something different.
I never heard anyone say steph didn't deserve that mvp.
Also he was the first unanimous mvp.
The convo is based on if he continues on this level and the way his game is predicated it relies on skill more than athleticism imo, unless he has a debilitating injury I don't see him falling off.

The NBA manufactures their faces....

As I said he is a great shooter....but GS is a great team..They may be better with him but they are still great without him.

Derrick Rose never had a team like that

AI never had a team like that..

so their accomplishments can be mentioned.

teams matter so stop acting like these cats playing HORSE

 

[tallblacknyc]

Don't mention those other guys with curry.
We've seen those type players before.
Steph is something different.
I never heard anyone say steph didn't deserve that mvp.
Also he was the first unanimous mvp.
The convo is based on if he continues on this level and the way his game is predicated it relies on skill more than athleticism imo, unless he has a debilitating injury I don't see him falling off.

where was this thread 2 yrs ago ??? oh yeah it didn't exist.. maybe he's having a lucky 2 yrs maybe he's not..but 2yrs ago nobody would've dared made this thread..in fact where the hell was warrior threads 2 yrs ago???

 

[Spectrum]

This is troll shit bro... Im highly disappointed in you.

Change your name back fam.. Something aint been right since the switch my nigga.

Man. Be objective. How many players have you seen be this dominant? And extrapolate this out over a few more years? He wouldn't be in the argument?

I'm not saying right now.. I'm saying if he does this shit for several more years, how can his career be defined when you're talkinga bout the greatest shooters of all time, dominant for years, multiple MVPs, multiple titles...owning all the shooting records..

 

[ballscout1]

what they should stop doing is talking GOAT anyway....Best players of the generation is more accurate

 

[Spectrum]

I don't think he'll be goat. I think he'll be the new standard for shooting killer instinct as a pg

So if he does this for 5 more seasons you wouldn't put him in the argument?

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Curry is on some other shit. He doesn't need to eclipse Lebron; he's doing different shit Lebron has never done. There's room for both of them to be great at the same time. There never was and never will be a single GOAT. The NBA ain't Highlander: there actually CAN be more than one so called GOAT.

 

[therealjondoe]

The NBA manufactures their faces....

As I said he is a great shooter....but GS is a great team..They may be better with him but they are still great without him.

Derrick Rose never had a team like that

AI never had a team like that..

so their accomplishments can be mentioned.

teams matter so stop acting like these cats playing HORSE

Umm didn't Jordan have a great team without him?
That didn't negate his credentials.
Rose and AI are not on currys level.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Steph is a great offensive player but for one thing he has only done it for 2 years on a great team.

He has to do it consistently for longer to be considered with the greats.

Now I am not a Lebron fan per se but you can't deny his impact.

LeBron took one of the worst teams ever to the finals ( 1st time in Cleveland)

Lebron could go to Philly or The Knicks and they would be at least a 2nd round team his first year

Curry isn't that dude...Curry needs a team Lebron is a team.

We already know that GS can win without Curry and would still be competing for a championship

Cleveland would possibly be a lottery pick without Lebron

Let's not do that bs.
.
Lebron is great he can do everything you said however people always talk about a stacked team full of players outside of klay and green that nobody wanted lol

Iggy been in the nba Livingston Barbosa etc those dudes were getting cut by 20 win teams and traded out of Philly for peanuts

Let's not rewrite history like those dudes are max players that got together

It's just a gm doing a good job of putting pieces together and drafting well
Nobody wanted Andrew bogut.

 

[ballscout1]

Nah
Isn't he more efficient than mj while taking higher difficulty shots?

No sir.....

You never saw MJ pull up from the hash because of defense.

Curry makes what would be considered bad shots...

 

[therealjondoe]

where was this thread 2 yrs ago ??? oh yeah it didn't exist.. maybe he's having a lucky 2 yrs maybe he's not..but 2yrs ago nobody would've dared made this thread..in fact where the hell was warrior threads 2 yrs ago???

It's speculative.
We're saying if he continues like this.

 

[Spectrum]

what they should stop doing is talking GOAT anyway....Best players of the generation is more accurate

That's essentially how I established it. I listed a bunch of players who were the best of their generation. and said "goat status"...not goat. I think declaring a goat in team sports is really difficult

 

[ankhheru]

I'm not talking about full body of work. I'm talking about right NOW. Is he the better player now? Obviously Lebron has the better career.

I've been arguing for most of the year that Lebron was still #1... but I'm really starting to question that now.

when he becomes a great two way player. Right now he hides very well in the team defense.

 

[2 ONE 3]

Jordan was the best of his era

Steph & LeBron are the best of their era

 

[ballscout1]

Umm didn't Jordan have a great team without him?
That didn't negate his credentials.
Rose and AI are not on currys level.

you are uninformed if you think AI.

AI could make a bad team competitive and took a half asses team to the finals



Jordan had great roles players Curry has players who could be their teams star.

 

[therealjondoe]

No sir.....

You never saw MJ pull up from the hash because of defense.

Curry makes what would be considered bad shots...

They aren't bad shots for curry and they are worth more points

 

[Spectrum]

when he becomes a great two way player. Right now he hides very well in the team defense.

agreed

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Curry is a volume shooter and he shoots many bad shots..he just makes them..

he is that cat ,coach on the bench screaming no no no no good shot.

and there are many games when he shooting terribly for 3 quarters and they catches fire in the 4th..

but his game definitely doesn't translate because his bony ass would get broke

He's not lol. He shoots in the flow of the offense
Last night he deferred to klay cause klay was hot and then closed the deal.