Ghostface Wins Judgement Against Wu-Tang Productions

[GianoJuan]

Fuck Ghost.

Music publishing is divided 50/50 between music and lyrics. Too bad they had 8-9 ninjas rapping on the same beat. When 2-3 cats work on a beat for Jay, they don't each get a quarter of the publishing. Jay or whoever wrote the rap get half.

Ninjas are weak.

Its a dog eat dog world...people laugh but its all about whats in black in white. Have your contract in order like a diddy and you have no issue. Even though diddy is the devil what really can you do when you lie with dogs but get fleas...

 

[woodchuck]

Because he acts like he's not. He acts like he's your best friend. Like he really cares about you and your career.

At least when you get down with Don King, Suge Knight, etc. etc. - they let you know what they're about up front so you know what you're getting yourself into.

I can see people falling for it back in the day, but now. Fucking with Don King and Diddy these days, is like fucking with crack in 2009. You KNOW at ain't gonna end well.

 

[BKF]

Because he acts like he's not. He acts like he's your best friend. Like he really cares about you and your career.

At least when you get down with Don King, Suge Knight, etc. etc. - they let you know what they're about up front so you know what you're getting yourself into.

That BS. Those other dudes do the same fucking thing. There are far bigger fish than Diddy. Anybody that goes into business with someone else trusting without verifying has no one to blame but themselves.

 

[beating.the.system]

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[nicer]

I know his name wasn't in the article,I metioned GZA cause for some reason I was thinking that he was partnered with RZA but that was mistake,it's just RZA.

What the fuck is u proof reading now?
Simple mistake,Shut the fuck up!

the fuck you say to me faggot? let me tell you somethin kid, all this tough shit behind a screen name is sayin more about you as a "man", then anything else. you a bitch made nigga who follow everything he read on the web, and when niggas go and correct some gossip you tryin to spread, you try and come back with slick talk? cum drinkin ass nigga, you would be as humble as a shaolin monk if you was face to face pillow biter. homo, you titled the thread with some shit you cant prove, spreadin gossip like a old bitch on the apartment stoop before you mentioned it, you shoulda did a little research nigga, then you wouldnt come out lookin like some whore gossipin in a beauty salon. now stop gossipin, and get your facts straight before you post, cause that is how rumors spread in the real world and every man is accountable for what come out his mouth. oh, and save the slick talk faggot, knowin that you will never see me in the physical, to spout that tough talk you about to on the web..

 

[Heist]

I can see people falling for it back in the day, but now. Fucking with Don King and Diddy these days, is like fucking with crack in 2009. You KNOW at ain't gonna end well.

Yeah, Don King has always been known as a sideways dealing cheat.

Diddy's ways just started really coming to light in the last 3 years. I mean the whole Shyne shit mad people raise eyebrows. Then the 112 situation came up. And then that cat did the video and interview (One of his ex-staff writers) and that pretty much opened the whole can of worms on his record operations.

God knows what kind of sideways dirt he's doing with his other businesses.

 

[BKF]

Yeah, Don King has always been known as a sideways dealing cheat.

Diddy's ways just started really coming to light in the last 3 years. I mean the whole Shyne shit mad people raise eyebrows. Then the 112 situation came up. And then that cat did the video and interview (One of his ex-staff writers) and that pretty much opened the whole can of worms on his record operations.

God knows what kind of sideways dirt he's doing with his other businesses.

Let's be serious. It not like the music or the boxing business was somehow different before Diddy/Don King. People were and will continue to get ripped off in both business whether Diddy/Don are around.

 

[Andeyhollawho]

I don't see this shit as being fair from some of these comments.

Music IS 50/50. Producer get 50% and Writer gets 50%. Rza had to come out of his own pocket to pay for those samples and the studio time and all the other shit to make Wu what we know and love today.

It's bullshit for him to have to split his money with other people when he was getting his rightful share. If I were Rza I would sue each of the people suing him for the sample clearances and studio time.

 

[NightMare Paint]

Y'all talking about cats that fuck over their crew, don't forget Uncle Luke.

yo.....

Did ANYBODY that ever fucked with Luke blow up?

 

[Andeyhollawho]

yo.....

Did ANYBODY that ever fucked with Luke blow up?

Did Luke really ever blow up?

Poison Clan and JT Money never complained about Luke. Trick Daddy never complained about Luke either from what I remember.

 

[LavishTHINGS]

the fuck you say to me faggot? let me tell you somethin kid, all this tough shit behind a screen name is sayin more about you as a "man", then anything else. you a bitch made nigga who follow everything he read on the web, and when niggas go and correct some gossip you tryin to spread, you try and come back with slick talk? cum drinkin ass nigga, you would be as humble as a shaolin monk if you was face to face pillow biter. homo, you titled the thread with some shit you cant prove, spreadin gossip like a old bitch on the apartment stoop before you mentioned it, you shoulda did a little research nigga, then you wouldnt come out lookin like some whore gossipin in a beauty salon. now stop gossipin, and get your facts straight before you post, cause that is how rumors spread in the real world and every man is accountable for what come out his mouth. oh, and save the slick talk faggot, knowin that you will never see me in the physical, to spout that tough talk you about to on the web..

the fuck you say to me faggot? let me tell you somethin kid, all this tough shit behind a screen name

 

[Damn Right]

This is sad, they formed the Wu-Tang to combat the very thing that is happening to Ghost. I guess the music industry eventually corrupts even the most well meaning of cats.

everybody has the best of intentions when they're broke

 

[woodchuck]

Did Luke really ever blow up?

Poison Clan and JT Money never complained about Luke. Trick Daddy never complained about Luke either from what I remember.

Not in public.

 

[Heist]

yo.....

Did ANYBODY that ever fucked with Luke blow up?

Yes, Luke.

 

[woodchuck]

Yes, Luke.

 

[exiledking]

hopefully it was a mistake on RZA's part, and they can both chalk it up to just business, and keep it movin.

 

[Hey Julian!]

It doesn't sound like RZA dicked them at all. After all these years and all the so called missed royalties, he only collected $160K. Come the fuck on, these dudes should each be millionaire, living more than OK. Sounds like a misunderstanding and broke niggas are looking to collect in not so prosperous times. Anyway, glad they worked it out and had enough sense to not fuck up their future money.

 

[Heist]

hopefully it was a mistake on RZA's part, and they can both chalk it up to just business, and keep it movin.

Yeah, it was a mistake on RZA's part.

RZA thought he should keep all the cake.

The Judge thought he was mistaken and needed to spread it around.

 

[Heist]

It doesn't sound like RZA dicked them at all. After all these years and all the so called missed royalties, he only collected $160K. Come the fuck on, these dudes should each be millionaire, living more than OK. Sounds like a misunderstanding and broke niggas are looking to collect in not so prosperous times. Anyway, glad they worked it out and had enough sense to not fuck up their future money.

You forget that those first 3 Wu-Tang albums, A LOT of that cake went right into Steve Rifkin (LOUD) and RCA's pockets.

The remaining cake, that shit has to get split up like 8 ways. That don't amount to SHIT after taxes. That's sneaker, weed, a nice car, and a new house money.

So all that collective Wu-Tang money is pretty much nothing.

After his second solo joint, Ghostface's album sales went to shit. He damn near was BEGGING AND CRYING on Youtube for niggas not to download his shit because he only sold 30K of the album before last.

 

[woodchuck]

@ niggas on here acting like Ghost shoulda let over 150k slide!

 

[exiledking]

Yeah, it was a mistake on RZA's part.

RZA thought he should keep all the cake.

The Judge thought he was mistaken and needed to spread it around.

nah, I mean, like business manager bullshit. These guys aint actually counting the dough themselves. But it can happen, he may have just been greedy, or felt ike he had his reasons. That's what court are for. As a fan of the Wu (mind you, not the biggest, but I respect what they did), I'd like to see them getting along

 

[Complex]

to the OP: why mention gza keeping this mans money, when he has nothing to do with it? the niggas name aint nowhere in the article like that you niggas need to step your facts up. reading the entire article before posting it woulda been the right thing to do.

It was obviously a mistake you simple cheap fuck

How many more days, 6?

 

[woodchuck]

It was obviously a mistake you simple cheap fuck

How many more days, 6?

 

[Complex]

You forget that those first 3 Wu-Tang albums, A LOT of that cake went right into Steve Rifkin (LOUD) and RCA's pockets.

The remaining cake, that shit has to get split up like 8 ways. That don't amount to SHIT after taxes. That's sneaker, weed, a nice car, and a new house money.

So all that collective Wu-Tang money is pretty much nothing.

After his second solo joint, Ghostface's album sales went to shit. He damn near was BEGGING AND CRYING on Youtube for niggas not to download his shit because he only sold 30K of the album before last.

That ain't even new house money, that's an apartment.

Instead of getting $20,000 for one rapper or group, they're splitting that shit

That's why The Roots tour year around and took a gig for Jimmy Fallon.

 

[Bruh In Law]

So this makes RZA no better than Baby, Diddy, 50 Cent, and Suge. At least business wise.
Plain and simple, the boss cashes in while the underdogs get fucked.
Thats how it go and how its gone go.

 

[woodchuck]

That ain't even new house money, that's an apartment.

Instead of getting $20,000 for one rapper or group, they're splitting that shit

That's why The Roots tour year around and took a gig for Jimmy Fallon.

If the tour bus wheels ain't a turning, you ain't a earning.

 

[nicer]

It was obviously a mistake you simple cheap fuck

How many more days, 6?

eat a dick pedo. 6 days later, you still gonna be the same herb sayin shit online, that you never got balls to come right out and say to niggas in the flesh. your online character is just that nigga ,online. in the world you the opposite, a coward ass nigga who hide behind his screen persona. prove me wrong in the flesh nigga you a professional message board poster nigga, you do all your tough guy battles right here, on the web. so, you good at that. I aint with all that back and forth though. id smack your fuckin head off in person.

 

[Heist]

That ain't even new house money, that's an apartment.

Instead of getting $20,000 for one rapper or group, they're splitting that shit

That's why The Roots tour year around and took a gig for Jimmy Fallon.

Basically!!

That's why so many rap acts ditched the DJ and the Hype Man.

Cause that shit was eating into their bread for no reason.

I'd be surprised if Wu-Tang even at their height was booking for anything over $50G's a show.

Break that shit down 7 ways (Ghostface frequently didn't do overseas shows or extended trips due to his health) and them cats were making less than $10G a piece per show. After taxes, manager, lawyer, accountant fees that's more like $5,000-6,000 take home.

So say you were doing a 50 show concert run - that's like $250,000-$300,000 when it's all said and done.

How long you really going to live on $300,000?! Especially in the lifestyle and line of work that they're in?!

 

[NightMare Paint]

Did Luke really ever blow up?

Poison Clan and JT Money never complained about Luke. Trick Daddy never complained about Luke either from what I remember.

See I remembered Trick Daddy being down with Luke but I thought I had just imagined it

 

[Complex]

eat a dick pedo. 6 days later, you still gonna be the same herb sayin shit online, that you never got balls to come right out and say to niggas in the flesh. your online character is just that nigga ,online. in the world you the opposite, a coward ass nigga who hide behind his screen persona. prove me wrong in the flesh nigga you a professional message board poster nigga, you do all your tough guy battles right here, on the web. so, you good at that. I aint with all that back and forth though. id smack your fuckin head off in person.

So what are you doing online

Smack me, Nice joke, I'm shivering. I'd really like to see you try

 

[shaddy46]

 

[MJones]

So this makes RZA no better than Baby, Diddy, 50 Cent, and Suge. At least business wise.
Plain and simple, the boss cashes in while the underdogs get fucked.
Thats how it go and how its gone go.

@ 50. 50 always treated his artist good financially. Buck was the only one who had a problem because his uneducated stupid ass doesn't know shit about anything

As for RZA, he is wu-tang. He deserved the biggest piece of the pie. He produced all the music. All them niggas did was rap. He coulda got anybody to do that. It ain't his fault those other clowns don't know what to do w/ their money & dont have the talent to continue making income like RZA, who can do movie scores. They're all jealous of RZA. He's a business man. They're pseudo street dudes in their 30s who reminiscence about their glory days. Fuck em

 

[woodchuck]

@ 50. 50 always treated his artist good financially. Buck was the only one who had a problem because his uneducated stupid ass doesn't know shit about anything

I'm not a Fif fan, but it seems like he's giving them cats money they ain't earned. I ain't mad at Fif. A happy crew is a strong crew.

 

[Jboogiee]

the fuck you say to me faggot? let me tell you somethin kid, all this tough shit behind a screen name is sayin more about you as a "man", then anything else. you a bitch made nigga who follow everything he read on the web, and when niggas go and correct some gossip you tryin to spread, you try and come back with slick talk? cum drinkin ass nigga, you would be as humble as a shaolin monk if you was face to face pillow biter. homo, you titled the thread with some shit you cant prove, spreadin gossip like a old bitch on the apartment stoop before you mentioned it, you shoulda did a little research nigga, then you wouldnt come out lookin like some whore gossipin in a beauty salon. now stop gossipin, and get your facts straight before you post, cause that is how rumors spread in the real world and every man is accountable for what come out his mouth. oh, and save the slick talk faggot, knowin that you will never see me in the physical, to spout that tough talk you about to on the web..

Damn u madd..it ain't that serious playboy!

 

[A to Dah K]

business is business