Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

I'm re-watching the first 4 episodes and I'm on episode 2 right now watching the war strategy scene on DragonStone and all I can think is that the number of eunuchs in this room is too damn high. The only dude who still has a dick in Dany's war room is Tyrion. Varys, Reek, and Grey Worm in there looking weak as fuck. Dany could at least throw a Dothraki general in there or something.

Damn...good points. Their plan did lack Testosterone.They need to just attack at full strength instead of getting cute. The Seven Kingdoms aren't really riding for Cersei. Just last season everyone in Kings Landing literally were throwing shit at her. If they saw that big ass army and 3 dragons, they all bending the knee.
 
Am I the only one who caught how Arya was twirling around her dagger before she showed it to Brienne? She's become pretty damn good with her fighting/assassin skills. Even her evading the movements by the guards at the gate are testament to how much her skillset has improved

In games of thrones time its prolly been more than a year.
 
Answer me this cause I musta missed it. Dude(s) that took Jamie's hand off. What happened to them?


The guy was called Locke in the show. I think in the books the guy who cut off Jamie's hand was Vargo Hoat. After that scene Locke somehow ended up hooking up with Roose or Reece Bolton and was ordered to infiltrate the Nights Watch in order to find Bran and Rickon after they got away from Theon. He ends up going on the raid to Craster's keep with Jon Snow and just happens to stumble upon Bran, Hodor and Meera in a cave. He tries to run off with Bran, but Bran wargs into Hodor and basically breaks his neck as Hodor.

None of that was in the book, btw, that whole sub plot on the show was kinda silly because too many implausible things had to happen for Locke to get anywhere near Bran and Meera where. I think the intent was to make you think there was going to be an early Stark reunion and they used Locke to spoil it.
 
Answer me this cause I musta missed it. Dude(s) that took Jamie's hand off. What happened to them?


Assist... The guy who chopped off Jamie's hand is named Locke. He was a mercenary for the Bolton Family.

As part of the Bolton plans to control the North... Roose & Ramsay send Locke out to kill the remaining male Starks, so they could never challenge the Bolton claim to be the Warden of the North.

Theon/Reek admitted to Ramsay that he never actually killed Bran & Rickon, but he did not know their whereabouts. So the Boltons send Locke to Castle Black. They figured Jon Snow was either hiding Bran & Rickon, or would know where they were hiding. And if Jon didn't have any useful information, then Locke would just kill him & keep it moving.

Locke befriends Jon Snow at Castle Black.

Soon he volunteers to join Jon on a 'stealth mission' to eliminate Karl Tanner and the rest of the fugitives of the Nights Watch who committed muntiny & killed Lord Commander Mormont & took control of Craster's Keep.

During all the commotion... Locke discovers that Bran, Hodor, Meera & Jojen are being held hostage in a cabin not too far away from the main house at Crasters Keep. So he tries to use all the mayhem as a distraction to kill Bran, but Bran wargs into Hodor and uses him to snap Locke's neck. Which ends the Boltons plans to eliminate the remaining Starks.



 
None of that was in the book, btw, that whole sub plot on the show was kinda silly because too many implausible things had to happen for Locke to get anywhere Bran and Meera where. I think the intent was to have an early Stark reunion and they used Locke to spoil it.
I've noticed the 'book readers' have a real bad habit of dissing & over-criticizing everything that happens on the tv show.... that they DID NOT know about, in advance.

Coincidences are not implausible. :smh:

Locke went to Crasters Keep with Jon.
Bran just happened to be there.

That was a coincidence. That's all.

Even though he was douchebag... Craster's Keep was the only 'gathering place' for anyone traveling North of the Wall who is NOT a Wildling.

Makes sense that all of them would eventually show up there, sooner or later.
 
After having a debate with my co-workers, I have to agree with the both of you. I think that he may have survived.

But on another note....
Was the arrow that hit Drogon poisioned too? I would expect Cersi and Qyburn to take extra precautionary measures in that instance.

It's likely they wouldn't know what poison would be effective...but consider this...

Drogon is named after Khal Drogo...who died from infection from a wound in his shoulder
Just like where Drogon was hit.
 
Im sure this goes without saying, but please thow up the Bat signal if any more eps drop as rumored yesterday. My appetite is insatiable :beer:
 
"I think most are wrong about the scene with Sansa and Littlefinfer watching Ariya sparring. Sansa saw in that moment that her family has truly changed from what she once knew.

She also peeped Littlefinger, and him trying to find an angle of backing the Stark he thinks will have the upper hand.

Littlefinger is trying to find an angle to pit the children of Ned and Kaitlin against one another.

I think Bran will put a stop to that... "
 
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It's likely they wouldn't know what poison would be effective...but consider this...

Drogon is named after Khal Drogo...who died from infection from a wound in his shoulder
Just like where Drogon was hit.

I don't see Drogon dying right away but I think he's definitely on the way out. That Black Arrow wasn't like the spares back in Mareen. I doubt Drogon could just shake that off as easily.
When Drogon dies, maybe we'll finally get to see Dany and Jon dragon ride together. Jon could ride Rhaegal and Dany on Viserion.
 
The guy was called Locke in the show. I think in the books the guy who cut off Jamie's hand was Vargo Hoat. After that scene Locke somehow ended up hooking up with Roose or Reece Bolton and was ordered to infiltrate the Nights Watch in order to find Bran and Rickon after they got away from Theon. He ends up going on the raid to Craster's keep with Jon Snow and just happens to stumble upon Bran, Hodor and Meera in a cave. He tries to run off with Bran, but Bran wargs into Hodor and basically breaks his neck as Hodor.

None of that was in the book, btw, that whole sub plot on the show was kinda silly because too many implausible things had to happen for Locke to get anywhere near Bran and Meera where. I think the intent was to make you think there was going to be an early Stark reunion and they used Locke to spoil it.
locke was told to the night watch to kill jon snow , just incase he tries to reclaim winterfell. when jon was granted permission to go beyond the wall to kill the night watch deserters who killed the commander, locke volunteered. unknown to them, bran rickon and the rest of them got caught by the deflectors. when jon's team got there and started warring , locke found bran and was trying to take him. bran took over hodor's mind and brutally broke locke's neck to the point bone was sticking out. when jon and the team found him, jon said only a beast can do something like that. jon never knew locke was there to kill him.
 
"I think most are wrong about the scene with Sansa and Littlefinfer watching Ariya sparring. Sansa saw in that moment that her family has truly changed from what she once knew.

She also peeped Littlefinger, and him trying to find an angle of backing the Stark he thinks will have the upper hand.

Littlefinger is trying to find an angle to pit the children of Ned and Kaitlin against one another.

I think Bran will put a stop to that... "
littlefinger is so out of his comfort zone right now. jon won't entertain his bullshit jargon. bran literally sees through his bullshit. ariya is a battle tested , killing machine. sansa is methodical after the events that took place with her. little finger still wants sansa. all of this shit that being happening to the starks is because of him. just to get what he wants. the kingdom and his wife. that's the long con. but walls are closing in. he gotta figure out how to keep the ball in his court.
 
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If ... if Khalesi were to win, what would she do with the Dothraki? I mean it doesn't seem like they are likely to want to sit still and chill after the initial celebrating is done... but they're all about being nomads and fucking people up. If they're loyal to her and she wins everything, who are they gonna raid/pillage without running afoul of her?
 
Something they didn't do and probably should have.... send some people ahead with some ravens to detect troop movements. Easier said than done, I know, but shit that's what you do. Casterly Rock was emptied out and they had no idea.


Damn...good points. Their plan did lack Testosterone.They need to just attack at full strength instead of getting cute. The Seven Kingdoms aren't really riding for Cersei. Just last season everyone in Kings Landing literally were throwing shit at her. If they saw that big ass army and 3 dragons, they all bending the knee.
 
"I think most are wrong about the scene with Sansa and Littlefinfer watching Ariya sparring. Sansa saw in that moment that her family has truly changed from what she once knew.

She also peeped Littlefinger, and him trying to find an angle of backing the Stark he thinks will have the upper hand.

Littlefinger is trying to find an angle to pit the children of Ned and Kaitlin against one another.

I think Bran will put a stop to that... "


I said earlier, I think the board is wrong about her not evolving. Bran doesn't want to be king. Jon will prolly get himself killed. Arya to Sansa is her only competition. That Is what the look was about. They all evolved, Sansa has become the ruthless one.
 
Totally agree. Littlefinger has been 'neutered' this season... but I think the reason is because he's 'out of his element' in the North. :yes: Too many 'honorable' folks around for him to manipulate.

All his schemes work BEST on the backstabbing, double-crossing citizens of Kings Landing. Where EVERYONE is doing some shady shit & constantly lying to each other, every minute of the day. :yes:

Bran fucked his head all the way UP... when he hit him with his own: "Chaos is a Ladder" quote that he's only told to ONE single person, on the whole show. :D

And Varys is nowhere close to Winterfell, and I doubt he's ever been to the North, at all. So how could Bran even know that??

Bran fired a 'warning shot' for Littlefinger to 'get his shit together'. Pronto. Or leave Winterfell with the quickness.

The question is... will Littlefinger 'recognize' & HEED that shit? :dunno:

I doubt it. :smh:

I couldn't make out what he said to littlefinger at that moment. Thanks for clearing that up. I rewinded it back like 10 times. Lol! I was on my phone though.
 
damn...scene is still gruesome even tho you know that shit is coming...in the blink of an eye

Jamie deserved that shit. Mad smug. The ultimate "We're rich and I'm gonna tell my daddy what you did.." type jackassery up until that moment of clarity :lol:

...that knife was big as SHIT too. I remember when I first saw that scene, I was like "oh shit!". Remind me of Dead Presidents when Cutty punched O Dawg down the stairs and pulled out that chrome 1911 :lol:
 
Jamie deserved that shit. Mad smug. The ultimate "We're rich and I'm gonna tell my daddy what you did.." type jackassery up until that moment of clarity :lol:

...that knife was big as SHIT too. I remember when I first saw that scene, I was like "oh shit!". Remind me of Dead Presidents when Cutty punched O Dawg down the stairs and pulled out that chrome 1911 :lol:

ya he really didn't peep the motions @ all :lol: even when dude asked him if the tree stump would make a fine dining table 'my lord'...jamie was like 'oh yes this will do nicely' :lol:
 
ya he really didn't peep the motions @ all :lol: even when dude asked him if the tree stump would make a fine dining table 'my lord'...jamie was like 'oh yes this will do nicely' :lol:
what's interesting is that's when the boltons was riding with the starks. i don't think locke gave a fuck either way. to cut a skill swordman hand who happens to be of one of the richest and vicious families in westeros, that bring certain men of his DNA satisfaction
 
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