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Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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Spartacus is a hard act to follow so I'd say no.
Game Of Thrones is a different type of beast.
I have read all of the books and I've been waiting on the next book "A dance with dragons" which is self explanitory. My beef is that the only Black character is Belwas the slave that will protect Denaryis.
I love the HBO series and it is much better than Camelot on stars which is not better than Merlin that was on Scifi channel.
There is at least one other black character. That Prince of the Summer Isles characters in Storm of Swords.
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Alayaya and her mother are black also. Anyone mentioned from the Summer Islands is Black.
The scope of G.O.T is way bigger than Spartacus. The ROME series is a better comparison in terms of scale. The Sopranos is a good comparison for the way the characters will evolve if they greenlight more seasons of the show.
The saddest part of Ned dying to me was that he sold himself out. He went against everything he believed in and compromised himself and his honer for a daughter (Sansa) that has showed that she will sell out her family members to advance her position in life.
Shit broke my heart when that sword came down on Ned.
Honestly that shit got me too! I was falling asleep but it got me up so quick! Should Sansa die a cruel death, I don't think anyone would shed a tear, fucking bitch!
To me i don't see whats crazy about his death, did he really think they were going to let him go? Really? Its beyond obvious they were still going to kill his stupid ass and worst he went against all his principles....whatever! Pathetic! you would expect a move like that from a young'in that dont know the game but for a OG to get got like that.....
his death was real shit
it was gonna happen given the track record of everything that went on.
the little boy is a bitch
been a bitch
gonna be a bitch
that's par for the course
I dont disagree with that...but between me and you..you mean to tell me he had no idea, that this thing stood a good chance of back-firing and they would have killed him anyway? IMO the odds were way more against him than for him, why go out like that?
Personally from the way they've portrayed his character...his last act seemed way out of character!
he knew it would but he figured he'd try it for his daughters sake. lie for family to him isn't lying
BUT he knew he'd probably die he wasn't stupid he just went for it and it backfired
that's all
So you don't think...if we're him and we're reasoning we're going to get killed most likely it would have been best to say pretty much...."this king is fraudulent", stand by his name, stand by his commission, the kings right hand and even better create doubt in the minds of people, this king is not legit?
IMO he has done the worst possible damage b4 dying! solidify the brat as the "true" air apparent and dirtying his and his families name.
oh no i agree with you. i was explaining his thinking, which has been off to say the least otherwise he wouldve still been in winterfell chilling
The chick who plays Shae used to be a porn star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Kekilli
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Shae
For the people who havent read the books,is yall going to start reading it after the season is over or not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Kekilli
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Shae
For the people who havent read the books,is yall going to start reading it after the season is over or not
I hear what you're saying but remember what he told the fat Unick about his life not being that precious enough to him to betray his honor. If it wasn't for his daughters sake he would have taken the assassin's axe with his pride in tact and spit at that punk's Geoffrey's feet.
While what you say is true for most men, IMO how this guys has been portrayed as being honorable throughout the show. How is it possible in the end he does the most selfish and dishonorable thing, in the act of "protecting" his daughters...He unleashes Geoffrey and his band of thugs on "other" peoples daughters and family? Do you see that big picture? people like Ned, in their final hour are very careful not to upset the legacy they have create, he literally destroyed EVERYTHING he ever stood for in 5 mins....IMO highly unlikely...bad writing!
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I actually thought it was an unselfish thing that he did. He wasn't just saving his daughters, he was also saving his sons from having to fight a war for him and possible throw the whole realm into chaos by not acknowledging Joffrey as legitimate. He wasn't made of stone, he was just stubborn about doing the honorable thing. Vary's showed him another way.
Vary's manipulated him to a certain extent by telling him that the realm would go on with or without him but that there no need for all this war and chaos if it could be avoided. That's a selfless act if you ask me.
I think it was a believable response, but they underestimated Joffrey's sadistic tendencies.
c/s
not to mention he was already labeled a traitor so what would his last ditch effort to "expose" the king accomplished. everyone would have just thought it was a traitor's last disrespectful act
and would have probably spilled the beans on Joffrey's true father/uncle....
Nope,He's Ned's son.
From what I understand theirs been hints about the mother but people isnt sure.Someone in this thread did came up with a good theory who the mother is though.
Great Point!
Maybe he fucked his sister...shit seems like that was the style back then
I doubt it because Ned said some woman name Wylla was his mother buuuuuut their was a rumor in Winterfell saying that a woman name Ashara Dayne was the mother...
I have all four ebooks and audiobooks. I started reading because I got tired of waiting each week. I'm not up to where the show is though. The show follows the books really well.
It's been a bloody and arduous journey, but the Game of Thrones cast has emerged from their first season unscathed, although we can't say the same for the characters they played.
Going into the finale Sunday (9/8c on HBO), the actors reflect on how difficult it is living in the Seven Kingdoms and beyond. So TVGuide.com asked them to weigh in on two very important Westerosi subjects:
1. What personal sigil would best represent you?
2. If you ascended to the Iron Throne in modern times, what would your first ruling as king or queen be?
Game of Thrones' Sean Bean stabbed, continues drinking
So here are their answers, which arrived via raven, naturally:
Mark Addy as King Robert Baratheon, aka "The Usurper"
Sigil: It would be a gryphon, a creature with the body of a lion and a head of an eagle. I don't know why, but to be attacked by one of those would be pretty horrible.
First ruling: Free beer for everyone. Absolutely!
Sean Bean as Lord Eddard "Ned" Stark, aka "The Hand"
Sigil: Two crossed swords because it represents my football team, Sheffield United. That's their badge. The team has been relegated, by the way.
First ruling: Sheffield United gets promoted next season.
Lena Headey as Queen Cersei Lannister, aka "Blonde Ambition"
Sigil: A big wooden sailing ship with a busty maiden shouting, "Ahoy, mate!!"
First ruling: Everyone has a limitless shopping day where they can go wherever they want, buy whatever they want, and no one asks if you want store credit.
Nicolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister, aka "The Kingslayer"
Sigil: A pint of milk.
First ruling: Fawlty Towers marathon on all networks.
Game of Thrones postmortem: Sean Bean on Sunday's shocking events
Kit Harington as Jon Snow, aka "The Bastard"
Sigil: I immediately thought of one but it's not very cool. I'm a Capricorn. A Capricorn is a mountain goat isn't it? So I think that I'm a goat. I don't know, but it feels like it should be a wolf now honestly after doing this show. God knows what it was before, but now it's a wolf.
First ruling: I don't know. My mother would probably choose!
Sophie Turner as Sansa Stark, aka "The Lost Stark"
Sigil: I wouldn't have a wolf because I'm not that strong, I'm not that powerful. I'd maybe have a ballerina because ballerinas have such grace and they also have strength within them, so that's probably me. I'm much stronger than Sansa is at the start but also I'm kind, caring I suppose. I'm Grade 7 ballet at the moment.
First ruling: No homework!
Maisie Williams as Arya Stark, aka "Boy"
Sigil: A turtle because they can go on land, they can go in sea. They're my favorite animal. They're really cute and they can grow up really big. They've got different types of turtles, there's snapping turtles and really cute ones, like, tiny ones. There's a good variety of them, and you never get bored.
First ruling: I would ban school uniforms for everyone, all over the world. They're so frustrating. At our school we have a thing called summer uniforms, and you're not allowed to take your jumper off when you're outside so you get really, really hot and our school uniform is black, so it's horrible. If you ban school uniforms then everyone could wear what they wanted to wear and you wouldn't get hot.
Jason Momoa as Khal Drogo, aka "My Sun and Stars"
Sigil: A lion. It's the king of the jungle. Have you ever seen a lion up close? Drogo walking with a gigantic lion. It's pretty rad.
First ruling: Free beer and free sex for everyone -- free love that is. Back to the '60s, man. And no clothes ... except for Mark Addy!
Game of Thrones: How to speak (and curse!) like the Dothraki
Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen, aka "Moon of My Life"
Sigil: I would be an element -- water. Because as an actor you have to be changeable and water can be so many different things. Deep, like water. (laughs) We could go on for hours. The metaphor just keeps on going!
First ruling: There will be music playing in the streets, joyful, happy music. Reggae!
Harry Lloyd as Viserys Targaryen, aka "The Dragon"
Sigil: I would love to say dragon because they are clearly the best sigil in Game of Thrones. But for me it would probably be something small and nocturnal. A bat? Dunno why.
First ruling: A two-week house party in Buckingham Palace.
George R.R. Martin, author, aka "A Cruel and Savage God"
Sigil: Probably something like a quill pen for a writer or something like that would be appropriate. But way back in the 1980s, I won the Hugo Award which is the biggest award for science fiction fantasy and it's shaped like a silver rocketship. I won two of them in a single year which no one had ever done before. And so for a while, my now wife, then my girlfriend, Paris, would make me these sigils of two crossed Hugos instead of crossed swords.
First ruling: Everybody has to get HBO.
Who has the best sigil and first ruling?
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Game-Thrones-Finale-Sigil-1034268.aspx
Going into the finale Sunday (9/8c on HBO), the actors reflect on how difficult it is living in the Seven Kingdoms and beyond. So TVGuide.com asked them to weigh in on two very important Westerosi subjects:
1. What personal sigil would best represent you?
2. If you ascended to the Iron Throne in modern times, what would your first ruling as king or queen be?
Game of Thrones' Sean Bean stabbed, continues drinking
So here are their answers, which arrived via raven, naturally:
Mark Addy as King Robert Baratheon, aka "The Usurper"
Sigil: It would be a gryphon, a creature with the body of a lion and a head of an eagle. I don't know why, but to be attacked by one of those would be pretty horrible.
First ruling: Free beer for everyone. Absolutely!
Sean Bean as Lord Eddard "Ned" Stark, aka "The Hand"
Sigil: Two crossed swords because it represents my football team, Sheffield United. That's their badge. The team has been relegated, by the way.
First ruling: Sheffield United gets promoted next season.
Lena Headey as Queen Cersei Lannister, aka "Blonde Ambition"
Sigil: A big wooden sailing ship with a busty maiden shouting, "Ahoy, mate!!"
First ruling: Everyone has a limitless shopping day where they can go wherever they want, buy whatever they want, and no one asks if you want store credit.
Nicolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister, aka "The Kingslayer"
Sigil: A pint of milk.
First ruling: Fawlty Towers marathon on all networks.
Game of Thrones postmortem: Sean Bean on Sunday's shocking events
Kit Harington as Jon Snow, aka "The Bastard"
Sigil: I immediately thought of one but it's not very cool. I'm a Capricorn. A Capricorn is a mountain goat isn't it? So I think that I'm a goat. I don't know, but it feels like it should be a wolf now honestly after doing this show. God knows what it was before, but now it's a wolf.
First ruling: I don't know. My mother would probably choose!
Sophie Turner as Sansa Stark, aka "The Lost Stark"
Sigil: I wouldn't have a wolf because I'm not that strong, I'm not that powerful. I'd maybe have a ballerina because ballerinas have such grace and they also have strength within them, so that's probably me. I'm much stronger than Sansa is at the start but also I'm kind, caring I suppose. I'm Grade 7 ballet at the moment.
First ruling: No homework!
Maisie Williams as Arya Stark, aka "Boy"
Sigil: A turtle because they can go on land, they can go in sea. They're my favorite animal. They're really cute and they can grow up really big. They've got different types of turtles, there's snapping turtles and really cute ones, like, tiny ones. There's a good variety of them, and you never get bored.
First ruling: I would ban school uniforms for everyone, all over the world. They're so frustrating. At our school we have a thing called summer uniforms, and you're not allowed to take your jumper off when you're outside so you get really, really hot and our school uniform is black, so it's horrible. If you ban school uniforms then everyone could wear what they wanted to wear and you wouldn't get hot.
Jason Momoa as Khal Drogo, aka "My Sun and Stars"
Sigil: A lion. It's the king of the jungle. Have you ever seen a lion up close? Drogo walking with a gigantic lion. It's pretty rad.
First ruling: Free beer and free sex for everyone -- free love that is. Back to the '60s, man. And no clothes ... except for Mark Addy!
Game of Thrones: How to speak (and curse!) like the Dothraki
Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen, aka "Moon of My Life"
Sigil: I would be an element -- water. Because as an actor you have to be changeable and water can be so many different things. Deep, like water. (laughs) We could go on for hours. The metaphor just keeps on going!
First ruling: There will be music playing in the streets, joyful, happy music. Reggae!
Harry Lloyd as Viserys Targaryen, aka "The Dragon"
Sigil: I would love to say dragon because they are clearly the best sigil in Game of Thrones. But for me it would probably be something small and nocturnal. A bat? Dunno why.
First ruling: A two-week house party in Buckingham Palace.
George R.R. Martin, author, aka "A Cruel and Savage God"
Sigil: Probably something like a quill pen for a writer or something like that would be appropriate. But way back in the 1980s, I won the Hugo Award which is the biggest award for science fiction fantasy and it's shaped like a silver rocketship. I won two of them in a single year which no one had ever done before. And so for a while, my now wife, then my girlfriend, Paris, would make me these sigils of two crossed Hugos instead of crossed swords.
First ruling: Everybody has to get HBO.
Who has the best sigil and first ruling?
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Game-Thrones-Finale-Sigil-1034268.aspx
where the hell is tyrion?
As 'Game of Thrones' nears its finale, show runners David Benioff and Dan Weiss talk about Season 2
(contains some spoilers)
The first season of “Game of Thrones” comes to a close this Sunday, having won over many viewers who wouldn’t normally immerse themselves in fantasy. It's also left some fans — those who hadn’t already read George R.R. Martin’s books — shellshocked by the brutal deaths of a few major characters (some more beloved than others).
HBO has granted the show a second season, sending show runners David Benioff and Dan Weiss back to Belfast, where they are furiously working on adapting a script from the second book of the saga, “A Clash of Kings.”
They spoke by phone about which characters will reappear in Season 2 and the near-impossibility of creating a cable series out of books that depict an increasingly complex, epic world.
There are some big shifts between the first book and the second — different characters, new locations, huge battle scenes and new elements like ... dragons. How closely are you sticking to the book?
Weiss: The book is always going to be our template, our go-to bible. It's mainly about the balancing act between keeping the characters the viewers have spent so much time investing in front-and-center and introducing all these new characters George has come up with and giving them their fair share. That's what we're currently engaged in doing.
So you’re still rewriting?
Benioff: We're definitely still rewriting. You start out with your dream scenario, and then the hard reality hits you and you make adjustments. We're still in that adjustment phase. There's a lot of writing and a lot of casting still. Most series if you get second season you're done with most of the casting. With the second book and the second season, a whole slew of characters make their appearances.
Weiss: I'm sitting here looking at our casting grid, which is a grid of names and faces of all the characters. Last year I remember being so excited as I'd watch week after week — it gradually fills in and finally ... you have this beautiful wall of faces that represents your cast. Now I'm looking at the grid again, and half the people are gone because they've been massacred wholesale. And now there's a grid to be filled in again with a new group of people.
Benioff: Luckily it's a big enough cast that the people we're attached to ... the whole top row is all people we know.
Weiss: It’s different people in the top row, but the whole top row is people we know, and almost the whole second row.
Benioff: We should keep a ghost wall up.
Weiss: The dearly departed. But eventually the dearly departed will be bigger than the cast.
There have been a lot of deaths in the first season. Our recapper has been keeping a tally of deaths and breasts — and often it’s an uneven number of breasts.
Weiss: Depending on our costuming choices, it could be more uneven still.
Benioff: That’s an inside joke. One of the characters visits the Meereen, and the fashion in that city in that book is that women wear one-breasted gowns. But we're not sure if we're going to replicate that.
The first season has inspired a fair amount of conversation about gender in the series — whether there’s too much nudity for its own sake, whether or not you should show rape. Have you been engaging in any of that?
Benioff: In rape? Very, very little.
Weiss: Has Lars Von Trier taught you nothing?
Benioff: I was not aware ...
Weiss: It's not that we're interested [in the conversations], but we've been so up to our eyeballs in it that we haven't had time to do what comes naturally to us, which is to sit and read about our show.
Has Martin been giving you feedback, and will he continue to be involved to the same degree?
Benioff: He’s writing an episode for the coming season, which is probably the heaviest, the Battle of Blackwater Bay. Now that we're on the ground here in Belfast and working with the visual effects team and production team that's going to create the sets, we have to talk to George about what that looks like. He's just as involved as in Season 1. He'll watch casting videos from afar, and meanwhile we get responses to the episodes.
Weiss: After each episode we get a report card.
Benioff: And he's been kind enough to let us read his new book ahead of time, which is great. It's good to be the envy of fanboys.
That could be dangerous.
Benioff: I don't carry it with me.
Weiss: So it's not on your iPhone?
Benioff: It's terrifying to think if we ever made it that far how we'd attempt to shoot some of the stuff he's got coming up in future years. Something to worry about many, many years from now ...
Even in Book 2, aren’t there huge battles and dragons?
Benioff: We used to say when we pitched it to HBO, if we get to that point when we have to make those decisions it's a great problem to have because it means we got a second season. Now that we're actually here, it doesn't seem like such a great problem — it's a terrifying problem, and we are daily trying to figure it out. We want to get in as many dire wolves and dragons and massive naval armadas. So it's about where and how to do it and how much to show....
What will happen to the major characters who remain mostly out of the action for Book 2? Will you keep the actors on retainer?
Weiss: In the book there are a couple of characters who have more of an offscreen role and come back in Book 3. But in the case of, say, Robb Stark — played by Richard Madden — he has more of an offscreen presence in the book, but Richard did such a fabulous job once his character came to the fore, he so commanded the screen that we realized there's no way to talk about this guy and not have him in the show. So there are people offscreen in the book who we are going to write onscreen in the show to make sure people who viewers have fallen in love with are still there in the second season.
Benioff: In the case of Jaime Lannister, he's got one scene in the second book, but he's such an important character we want to see more of him. There's fluidity in that certain scenes from the third book find their way into the second season just as certain scenes from the second book find their way into the end of the first season. We wanted to make sure those characters stayed in the audience's mind and didn't disappear for a whole year.
Presumably Martin is open to compromises, since he’s talked about his own experiences of working in TV?
Weiss: Yes, it’s a relief because it would be heartbreaking to have somebody who did what George did on the world-building front who didn't understand what it meant to adapt that to television and was agonized over every change.
Benioff: Did we tell you the story about [Martin’s experience as a TV writer on], I think it was “The New Twilight Zone”? He had written a scene with knights battling on horses at Stonehenge, and the director came to him and said, 'You can have the horses or you can have Stongehenge.' That's how we frame things: Sorry, we wish we could do all this, but we have to make a horse/Stonehenge choice.
Weiss: I don't remember George's choice in the original story, but I hope it was Stonehenge.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sho...ioff-and-dan-weiss-talk-about-season-two.html
You can't even compare Spartacus to Game Of Thrones, Games of Thrones is on another level. You could compare Rome to Game Of Thrones maybe as far as type of show. Spartacus is like Scarface compared to The Godfather.
Keep going fam, it only gets better and better
Oh Shit
I'm going to start on the audiobook this week after the last episode. I'll read each book after each season (for however long the series lasts)
Stay away from this thread until you catch up fam there are some spoilers in this joint I don't want it to be ruined for you
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