Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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(literally champagne in hand)I fucking LOVED this. I knew he was gonna die and called it before the ep. Since nobody is gonna kill the King I sorta figured it would be a suicide, but as a DIRECT consequence of cersei's action. Once again, her play was strong as fuck, and unpredictable too... but utterly short-sighted. i loved loved loved the way they shot the suicide - focusing on the window. no words, no hesitation, just jump. Beautiful, in a poetic Shakesparean way.
If that was food, I woulda ordered seconds.
I also called a Jamie-Cersei murder-suicide move. Nothing else will satisfy me. If Jamie has to kill her, he would be too distraught to go on living. We all know that she's the only person he ever loved but he still has that switch inside him not to standby and allow fuckery. He slayed a King before on his own judgement and he will do it again.
Bonus points if he does it while (or just after) fucking her.
This is something I need.
Mr. Lengthy
The Citadel knew that winter was here.
If you look closely during the scene in which Sam first lays eyes on the Citadel you can see and hear all of the white Ravens taking flight by the hundreds from the Tower. A couple of scenes later we all got to see the white raven which was headed to Winterfell in flight.
The bird is the word.
Game of Thrones season six was full of impossible journeys, so we mapped them
By Loren Grush and Kaitlyn Tiffany
In Game of Thrones, movement is life. If you linger too long in the Sept of Baelor, for instance, chances are you won’t be around long enough for afternoon prayer. That’s why many of the characters in Westeros are constantly in transit, traversing from the North to the Riverlands or sailing across the Narrow Sea to hang out with Daenerys in Meereen.
DAMN DO THEY MOVE FAST!
Some of these characters must have their own private Hyperloops, because damn do they move fast! In the course of a single episode, people without access to working electricity or battery power can trek the length of an entire continent the size of South America and still discuss medieval politics in excruciating detail. We’re surprised the entire show isn’t just people sweating and hyperventilating all the time.
One of the showrunners just recently addressed this issue. Writer Bryan Cogman toldEntertainment Weekly:
"The timelines between the various storylines don’t necessarily line up within a given episode. For instance, the ‘Northern Tour’ Jon and Sansa embark on would probably take a couple weeks, but Arya’s storyline over the past few episodes only spans a few days. We realized a while ago that if we tied ourselves in knots trying to make all the ‘story days’ line up between all the characters the momentum would suffer."
However, Winteriscoming.net makes a valid counterpoint: because of how the show is edited, it feels as if all the storylines are happening at the same pace. But a counterpoint to that counterpoint: we're not that interested in seeing people set up camp for the night along the Kingsroad, so it’s certainly a smart editing move. Traveling is tedious, and there are only so many precious minutes available per episode.
Still, since we witnessed many knee-aching journeys this season, we decided to break down the characters’ travels in terms of plausibility. Inspired by one of my favorite interactive tools on the web, the Interactive Game of Thrones Map with Spoiler Control, we’ve chronicled the paths of many prominent characters in season six and rated them on a believability scale from 1 to 10: from "We live in a magical realm of teleportation" to "Dragons aren't real, magic is fake, and fun is for children."
Greyjoys go to Meereen
Kaitlyn: Theon leaves the outskirts of Winterfell in episode two. By episode four, he is at Pyke. Pyke is on an island. So I ask: Where did Theon — who was very recently "Reek," who had and still has absolutely no money and barely even half of a Yeezy sweater to his name — get a boat?
Yara and Theon leave the Iron Islands with most of the Iron Fleet in episode six — Theon gets some boats, finally. By episode seven, they’re hanging out in a brothel in what appears to be the Free City of Volantis. This means they sailed around the entire continent of Westeros in one episode. I know they’re pirates, but there’s only so much that a "what is dead may never die" can-do attitude can really do before basic physics thwart you.
THERE’S ONLY SO MUCH THAT A "WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE" CAN-DO ATTITUDE CAN REALLY DO
In episode nine, the siblings sail into Meereen, either while there’s a battle going on in the harbor or immediately after. This seems… risky? They team up with Daenerys, who didn’t barbecue them in the water because she was having some well-earned me-time and changing into her Hogwarts robes. Phew!
One episode later, the fleet they’ve decided to build together is complete, and it’s been decorated with hundreds of hand-painted Targaryen sails. I would give the whole crew a 0 for believability (yes, I see you, Martell and Tyrell ships from where in the hell), but the shot of Team Dany finally zooming towards Westeros is incredible so everyone involved gets a free pass.
Believability Score: 1
Jon and Sansa’s tour of the North
Loren: For most of season six, Jon and Sansa pretty much just stick to the North, which makes their travels more believable than most. We meet up with Sansa right outside Winterfell in episode one, where she is conveniently saved by Brienne who must have some kind of Stark homing beacon. They decide to go north to meet up with Jon, but don’t reach Castle Black until episode four. That seems like a decent amount of time to cover a relatively short patch of land, though it is cold up there, which probably would have slowed their progress. Maybe there’s still some lingering global warming leftover from the burning of Shireen.
The part where Jon and Sansa’s journey makes a little less sense is when they go on an impressive field trip to meet up with the former Stark bannermen. All in a single episode, the pair go from Castle Black, across the water to Bear Island, then to Deepwood Motte. Remember, the North is the largest kingdom of the Seven Kingdoms. How are they not exhausted? Pretty sure Jon Snow would not be showing that amount of stamina at the Battle of the Bastards given all the blisters on his feet — and the whole living dead thing.
Believability Score: 7
Arya finally goes back to Westeros
Loren: After two seasons of training montages, Arya finally makes it back to Westeros to exact some super satisfying revenge on House Frey. That revenge was also served up super quick. Arya tells Jaqen that she’s outie in episode 8, then manages to find passage across the Narrow Sea and trek across the Neck to the Twins all in episode 9. To be fair, she's an assassin now, so she probably has some special powers of persuasion that help her acquire boats and horses. Also, she did grab a face or two on her way out the black-and-white door, which is going to be super helpful on her tour-de-revenge of Westeros.
GETTING STABBED DIDN’T SEEM TO DETER HER FROM DOING SOMERSAULTS
But let’s also remember that Arya was STABBED IN THE GUT REPEATEDLY just a few episodes prior. I pretty much don’t leave my apartment when I have a stomachache, so I’m impressed with Arya’s fortitude. Then again, getting stabbed didn’t seem to deter her from doing somersaults throughout the streets of Braavos. Perhaps I need to get my prescriptions from the Faceless Men.
Seeing Walder Frey get his comeuppance was unbelievably fulfilling, though, and it helped to ease the pain of just losing Margaery, so I can’t complain too much about Arya’s rapid Westeros return.
Believability Score: 5
Sam and Gilly go to Oldtown
Kaitlyn: We check in with Sam and Gilly on a boat southbound from Eastwatch-by-the-Sea in episode three. Sam is yakking, and Little Sam is large now, which indicates that they’ve been on the boat for a while already. They arrive at Horn Hill in episode six, which isn’t the most reasonable or the most unreasonable thing I’ve heard today. They had to circle a continent, so the odds were against them, but the odds are always against these crazy kids and they’re scrappy. (I have such nice dreams of them in the series finale, relaxing to a Paul Simon song and holding hands while Little Sam teeters around a moor.) The frequency with which Sam brings up his White Walker slaying may be a little much, but it actually is Very Impressive and so is he!
Perhaps more exceptionally, it takes them four episodes to get from Horn Hill to Oldtown, two towns which are at least on the same side of the continent and actually extremely close together. Sam stole a very angry man’s prized possession and then skipped town, but he honestly didn’t skip far enough. Also, he said where he was going. I don’t know, I wouldn’t sign up for this road trip.
Believability Score: 6
Sand Snakes’ quick jaunt to King’s Landing
Loren: Look, I understand that most of the Sand Snakes’ journey happened in the nexus between season five and seasons six, but I feel like the absurdity of their trip to King’s Landing needs to be addressed here. At the end of season five, the four ladies of Dorne watch from the shore of Sunspear as the doomed Myrcella sails away with Jamie and Trystane. But Obara and Nymeria must have immediately hopped on the Acela Express right after that, because they somehow catch up with that boat as soon as it gets to King’s Landing. Thank goodness they did so that we could hear the Sand Snakes make jokes about killing their cousin.
Believability Score: 3
Jaime tours the Riverlands
Kaitlyn: Jaime arrives in King’s Landing with Dead Myrcella in episode one. What he does between then and episode six is an utter mystery to me, but after pissing off little Tommen Baratheon he is finally told to get to stepping.
He leaves for Riverrun, a beautiful law enforcement agent in a golden suit. In episode seven, he arrives at Riverrun. This is reasonable, because he has a horse (unlike many of our participants) and because Riverrun is a cute kitty corner from King’s Landing. After doing almost nothing for three episodes, Jaime leaves Riverrun in the middle of episode 10, and arrives back in King’s Landing at the end of episode 10. I’m docking two believability points here because there was no real reason for Jaime to hurry like that. He thought everything was cool as a cucumber throughout the realm. He definitely stopped at a farmer’s market or had a nice day trip to Tumbler’s Falls with Bronn. Since when does Jaime try this hard? I don’t 100 percent buy it, even though it falls comfortably under the "physically possible" umbrella.
Believability Score: 8
Sensible Brienne is sensible
Kaitlyn: Brienne, the voice of reason as ever, took very logical trips throughout the Seven Kingdoms this season. She found Sansa outside of Winterfell in episode one, and travelled with her to the Wall — a trip which spanned a respectable three episodes. She and Sansa took a quick jaunt to Mole’s Town to meet with Littlefinger, making it there and back in one episode, which also makes sense. Please think of Mole’s Town as Gotham to The Wall’s Metropolis. Thank you.
BRIENNE’S DEDICATION TO DOING IMPRESSIVE BUT HUMANLY POSSIBLE TASKS IS TRULY ADMIRABLE
In episode five, Brienne leaves the Wall, and in episode eight, she arrives in Riverrun. She rode quickly, but she did not use a wormhole to cut through time and space. Brienne’s dedication to doing impressive but humanly possible tasks is truly admirable. She leaves Riverrun at the end of episode eight, and we don’t see her again for the rest of the season because she’s in a rowboat and she doesn’t expect to get anywhere relevant to the plot. Bless you Brienne, you good and normal horsewoman.
Believability Score: 10
Varys goes to Dorne then… back to Meereen?
Loren: This has to be my favorite character journey of the entire series. Varys, as we know, has been chilling in Meereen, helping with the one-liners since Tyrion has been struggling with his lately. In episode 8, the buddy cop duo split up when Varys goes on a secret mission to help boost Dany’s polling numbers. Sometime prior to episode 10, Varys makes it to Sunspear in Dorne via ship to secure an alliance with the Sand Snakes and Lady Olenna. I guess that’s not so crazy, seeing as how Sunspear is the closest Westeros city to Meereen, so I’ll give it an initial pass.
But what is crazy are all of his next moves. Just within episode 10, Varys manages to wrangle up a bunch of Dornish ships, travel back to Meereen, and then sail out again with the rest of Daenarys’ fleet. Perhaps Westeros has finally entered its version of the industrial revolution and equipped all the boats with motorized propellers! Evidence:
Believability Score: -5
Daenerys' field trip to a renowned historical site
Loren: Dany started off this season already in transit with the Dothraki, since Drogon couldn’t be bothered to intervene when an approaching horde showed up to kidnap his mom. The horse lords then take her to Vaes Dothrak, which is pretty far from Meereen. But Dany was probably already pretty far out herself thanks to air travel by dragon. Plus the Dothraki don’t reach their sacred city until episode three, which seems like a fairly reasonable travel time to me.
After redoing her fiery party trick (you’d think surviving an inferno once was enough to impress people), Dany finally leaves in episode six with some new buddies. Oh and Drogon is conveniently back to speed things up! Our queen makes it back to the great pyramid by episode eight, which is not only reasonable, but maybe even a little slow? I feel like Dragons are the Airbuses of Essos. Sure they’re great for smiting your enemies, but I bet they’re also perfect for quickly taking you to a tropical getaway.
Believability score: 9
The slow trudge of the White Walkers
Kaitlyn: The last we saw the White Walkers, in episode nine of season five, they were in Hardhome. By episode six of this season, they’ve gotten to the Three-Eyed Raven’s Tree Cave, which most people place slightly east of the Fist of the First Men. They made it from slightly east of a tree to a tree in seven episodes. We’ve been asked to consider them an imminent danger for six seasons now, but they move at about the pace of a shopping mall that was built on top of a swamp. That is when they aren’t hurling themselves off cliffs.
Believability Score: -1000
http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/28/1...-maps-season-six-travel-plot-holes-time-warps
Trust me, I know its easy to get carried away but "Believability Score"??
its a fantasy story. Even past that there are people IN this world that dont believe White Walkers exist now, or ever have existed in the past. That said, good find Mr. Lengthy
One of my favorite historical fiction writers, Conn Iggulden, has been doing a recap of the "Wars of the Roses" in 15th century England. As a history major many years ago, I wrote my masters thesis on this struggle. Accoring to the publisher's WoR is the historical basis for GOT. So, I devoured the first two books in the series. The third book, "Bloodline" comes out in a few weeks, just in time to fill the gap between Season 7 of GOT and the NFL. I just looked at the publisher's description of the book. Sound familiar?
"Winter 1461: Richard, duke of York, is dead—his ambitions in ruins, his head spiked on the walls of the city.
King Henry VI is still held prisoner. His Lancastrian queen, Margaret of Anjou, rides south with an army of victorious northerners, accompanied by painted warriors from the Scottish Highlands. With the death of York, Margaret and her army seem unstoppable.
Yet in killing the father, Margaret has unleashed the sons.
Edward of March, now duke of York, proclaims himself England’s rightful king. Factions form and tear apart as snow falls. Through blood and treason, through broken men and vengeful women, brother shall confront brother, king shall face king.
Two men can always claim a crown—but only one can keep it.
Following Margaret of Anjou, Bloodline is the third epic installment in master storyteller Conn Iggulden’s new Wars of the Roses series. Fans of the Game of Thrones and the Tudors series will be gripped from the word “go.” "
For the history buffs, who do you think is Warwick in GOT?
"Winter 1461: Richard, duke of York, is dead—his ambitions in ruins, his head spiked on the walls of the city.
King Henry VI is still held prisoner. His Lancastrian queen, Margaret of Anjou, rides south with an army of victorious northerners, accompanied by painted warriors from the Scottish Highlands. With the death of York, Margaret and her army seem unstoppable.
Yet in killing the father, Margaret has unleashed the sons.
Edward of March, now duke of York, proclaims himself England’s rightful king. Factions form and tear apart as snow falls. Through blood and treason, through broken men and vengeful women, brother shall confront brother, king shall face king.
Two men can always claim a crown—but only one can keep it.
Following Margaret of Anjou, Bloodline is the third epic installment in master storyteller Conn Iggulden’s new Wars of the Roses series. Fans of the Game of Thrones and the Tudors series will be gripped from the word “go.” "
For the history buffs, who do you think is Warwick in GOT?
lol yea lets map out how long it takes motherfuckers with white walkers and dragons and red witches and men coming from the dead and a zombie soldier to get from point a to b
she doesnt get enuff of luv...meera....bran ass would have been dead ten times over...lol
She kinda reminds me of.....
with that curly dark hair...
Its not about it being special or important to the storyline. We are talking about it being special to her character and you've already agreed the skills she displayed were not new. In your mind the freys are nothing, so what's so great about them being killed minus the pay back which to your point was planned by someone else.
I've never said anything about what access points she used.my stance is that given the time it would take to master the skills used by Arya are not something that could be learned in short time assuming it was a year or less that she was training.your best argument would be the establish the amount of time you think has passed but instead of making a strong defense you continue to say what you don't care about and I'm sure your response will remain in the same lane
LOL....it's amazing what people fixate on.
At what point do you realize the lannisters as a whole are terrible leaders?
Not really both Tywin Lannister and Tyrion Lannister are pretty good in the leadership part.
And the Mad King was a god send?
Actually, I believe that Tywin and Tyrion were excellent leaders. Tywin was "Hand" under the Mad King, and he was also Joffrey's Hand. He wielded the power like he was supposed to. He was diplomatic and ruthless. Not many would think of double crossing Tywin. Tywin wanted to marry Cersi to Rhaegar, and the Mad King said no, and that started the rift between the Mad King and Tywin.
Tyrion proved that he could be studious, and he uses his brain along with diplomacy. He was a good "Hand" as well. Dany was wise to choose him as her "Hand."
Now Cersi is the f*ck-head of the group. If Jaime could take his head out of her a**, he could see that Cersi is going to kill their house off if she keeps going on. Cersi has almost no diplomatic skills what so ever. She loves her children... But other than that, she's arrogant and troublesome. Those are not the traces of a good leader.
I think Jaime has possibilities, but he's p*ssy whipped. So until he gets over that, he's going to stay the Queen's pawn, when he should be King. There's no way Cersi's a** should be sitting on the Iron Throne. Her days are numbered though.
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Euron Greyjoy is the Valonqar
Game Of Thrones Season 7 Directors Announced
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The first official news for the next season of Game of Thrones has emerged. Sadly, it isn't plot details. However, it is still quite exciting. We know four directors who will be running the show for however many episodes HBO offers us when the new season rolls around: Alan Taylor, Jeremy Podeswa, Mark Mylod, and Matt Shakman.
Taylor is an Emmy-winning veteran of HBO's The Sopranos. He first helmed Thrones for the first season's ninth and tenth episodes, setting the precedent for the show's suspense and visuals with the episode in which Ned Stark lost his head. Having done such a great job in the premiere season, Taylor earned the position for four episodes of season 2, including the first and last episodes. He moved on to Marvel's Thor: The Dark World andTerminator: Genisys. Season 7 marks Taylor's first time back on Thrones since 2012.
Podeswa, a Canadian director, moves from his work on Boardwalk Empire (which earned him an Emmy nomination for the show's most controversial episode, "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken") to Thrones. In season 6, Podeswa directed the all-important premiere featuring Jon Snow's resurrection, "Home."
Mylod comes back for his fifth episode on the series. The British director is a veteran of Showtime's Shameless and HBO's Entourage. This year, he brought The Hound back toThrones with 6x07, The Broken Man. Later, he brought Arya's frightening and suspenseful chase scene to life in No One.
Shakman is best known for his work on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and will be working on Game of Thrones for the first time in its seventh season. He's a comedy specialist with a great relationship with Thrones showrunners Benioff and Weiss. Shakman's other directorial credits include Mad Men, The Good Wife, and Fargo.
Notably absent from the season 7 director roster is Miguel Sapochnik. Sapchnik not only helmed this year's epic Battle of the Bastards and finale episodes but also took charge on last year's breathtaking Hardhome episode. David Nutter will also be sideline for the year despite directing one of Game of Thrones' most remembered episodes, The Red Wedding.
Game of Thrones is only expected to have 13 episodes remaining. “Once [Daenerys] gets on those ships and crosses West, that’s when the clock on the end game starts ticking,” Weiss says. “The question has been: When is she going to get back across the Narrow Sea? When is she going to take back her homeland? It’s been a long time for her, and it’s been something that’s such an imperative for people watching. You know she’s not going to go there for a beach vacation.”
Game of Thrones is expected to return for its seventh season in April of 2017.
http://comicbook.com/2016/06/29/game-of-thrones-season-7-directors-announced/
Season 6 special effects
http://www.cgmeetup.net/home/?s=Game+of+Thrones
(Photo: HBO)
The first official news for the next season of Game of Thrones has emerged. Sadly, it isn't plot details. However, it is still quite exciting. We know four directors who will be running the show for however many episodes HBO offers us when the new season rolls around: Alan Taylor, Jeremy Podeswa, Mark Mylod, and Matt Shakman.
Taylor is an Emmy-winning veteran of HBO's The Sopranos. He first helmed Thrones for the first season's ninth and tenth episodes, setting the precedent for the show's suspense and visuals with the episode in which Ned Stark lost his head. Having done such a great job in the premiere season, Taylor earned the position for four episodes of season 2, including the first and last episodes. He moved on to Marvel's Thor: The Dark World andTerminator: Genisys. Season 7 marks Taylor's first time back on Thrones since 2012.
Podeswa, a Canadian director, moves from his work on Boardwalk Empire (which earned him an Emmy nomination for the show's most controversial episode, "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken") to Thrones. In season 6, Podeswa directed the all-important premiere featuring Jon Snow's resurrection, "Home."
Mylod comes back for his fifth episode on the series. The British director is a veteran of Showtime's Shameless and HBO's Entourage. This year, he brought The Hound back toThrones with 6x07, The Broken Man. Later, he brought Arya's frightening and suspenseful chase scene to life in No One.
Shakman is best known for his work on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and will be working on Game of Thrones for the first time in its seventh season. He's a comedy specialist with a great relationship with Thrones showrunners Benioff and Weiss. Shakman's other directorial credits include Mad Men, The Good Wife, and Fargo.
Notably absent from the season 7 director roster is Miguel Sapochnik. Sapchnik not only helmed this year's epic Battle of the Bastards and finale episodes but also took charge on last year's breathtaking Hardhome episode. David Nutter will also be sideline for the year despite directing one of Game of Thrones' most remembered episodes, The Red Wedding.
Game of Thrones is only expected to have 13 episodes remaining. “Once [Daenerys] gets on those ships and crosses West, that’s when the clock on the end game starts ticking,” Weiss says. “The question has been: When is she going to get back across the Narrow Sea? When is she going to take back her homeland? It’s been a long time for her, and it’s been something that’s such an imperative for people watching. You know she’s not going to go there for a beach vacation.”
Game of Thrones is expected to return for its seventh season in April of 2017.
http://comicbook.com/2016/06/29/game-of-thrones-season-7-directors-announced/
Season 6 special effects
http://www.cgmeetup.net/home/?s=Game+of+Thrones
Fans (including myself) of the show enjoyed the scene of Arya getting her revenge and the way it occurred by surprise. Another golden egg was when Lord Frey says to Jamie, "where are the Starks now?"as disguised Arya walks though the frame. Beautifully done by the director. One of the many great scenes of the season finale. My point is that its not unfathomable to believe an assassin in disguise could take out the Freys in the manner that she did.
The show never defined what the timeline (i.e. day 1200) was for Arya to master what she does so debating whether she had "sufficient time" is inconsequential. Whether she learned her skill set in record time, average time, or below average time of other students of the temple is moot.
Lol. Good point.With winter officially being here, on a scale of 'probably won't be that bad' to 'this is the worst decision we've ever made' how pissed do you think the Dothraki will be when the ships touchdown and they see snow for the first time?
Oh and let's not forget the army of ice zombies
But in the final shot of the episode... The fleet of warships is a 'combined force'... You can see the sails have multiple sigils of Tyrell, Martell, Greyjoy emblems... But mostly Targaryen sigils.
So it's safe to say they will probably arrive in sunny Dorne... And attack Kings Landing from the south, or east from HighGarden.
They may not see snow for awhile.
Unless the Army of the Dead have gotten all the way down to the Red Keep before they get there.
My thoughts about the 'Travel Time'.....
At the end of episode 7… we see that Arya has already booked passage on a ship that is leaving Braavos the very next morning… heading back to Westeros.
Meanwhile, 2 episodes later..... before Jon is crowned ‘King of the North’… they had actually either (physically) went to see all those Stark banner men (in person), or at least ‘sent ravens’ to them… BEFORE the epic battle with Ramsey… which takes some time (a few days literally) off camera. Even though they only showed us 2 visits onscreen (House Mormont & House Glover).
And remember, during this whole time the Starks are recruiting bannermen in episode 8… Arya is still 'in transit’… heading to the Twins to execute Walder Frey.
Then AFTER the battle in episode 9, it also took some time (days) for ‘word to spread’ about the Stark Victory… and for all those Northern Lords to actually travel & meet up at Winterfell in episode 10, to have this scene:
So to me, that explains how Arya got to Walder Frey so quickly (off camera).
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Also, like many other tv viewers…. at first I thought that Varys LITERALLY teleported back to Mereen after the Dorne scene
… but in the scene when Dany cuts off her relationship with Daario... he says: “You ships are nearly ready. I saw them painting the sails”
Ah ok. That's gonna take some time, sir. It won't happen overnight.
And if you notice there are many different warships in the fleet, at the end of the episode.
The fleet is mostly comprised of the Slavemasters ships & the Greyjoy ships which have been re-painted with Targaryen sails…. but also there are ships with the sigil of House Tyrell (A golden rose on a green field).. and the sigil of House Martell (A red sun pierced by a gold spear, on an orange field)
So it's safe to assume that it took awhile (many days) AFTER the siege of Mereen was finished to re-paint of all the boats & for the massive fleet to get assembled. (Even though we saw other stuff happening onscreen)
So that explains how Varys got back to Mereen so quickly (off camera) in the final shot.
Personally, I think some viewers just assume that all 10 episodes... happen in just 10 consecutive days.... and make a big deal about it.
At the end of episode 7… we see that Arya has already booked passage on a ship that is leaving Braavos the very next morning… heading back to Westeros.
Meanwhile, 2 episodes later..... before Jon is crowned ‘King of the North’… they had actually either (physically) went to see all those Stark banner men (in person), or at least ‘sent ravens’ to them… BEFORE the epic battle with Ramsey… which takes some time (a few days literally) off camera. Even though they only showed us 2 visits onscreen (House Mormont & House Glover).
And remember, during this whole time the Starks are recruiting bannermen in episode 8… Arya is still 'in transit’… heading to the Twins to execute Walder Frey.
Then AFTER the battle in episode 9, it also took some time (days) for ‘word to spread’ about the Stark Victory… and for all those Northern Lords to actually travel & meet up at Winterfell in episode 10, to have this scene:
So to me, that explains how Arya got to Walder Frey so quickly (off camera).
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Also, like many other tv viewers…. at first I thought that Varys LITERALLY teleported back to Mereen after the Dorne scene
… but in the scene when Dany cuts off her relationship with Daario... he says: “You ships are nearly ready. I saw them painting the sails”Ah ok. That's gonna take some time, sir. It won't happen overnight.
And if you notice there are many different warships in the fleet, at the end of the episode.
The fleet is mostly comprised of the Slavemasters ships & the Greyjoy ships which have been re-painted with Targaryen sails…. but also there are ships with the sigil of House Tyrell (A golden rose on a green field).. and the sigil of House Martell (A red sun pierced by a gold spear, on an orange field)
So it's safe to assume that it took awhile (many days) AFTER the siege of Mereen was finished to re-paint of all the boats & for the massive fleet to get assembled. (Even though we saw other stuff happening onscreen)
So that explains how Varys got back to Mereen so quickly (off camera) in the final shot.
Personally, I think some viewers just assume that all 10 episodes... happen in just 10 consecutive days.... and make a big deal about it.
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Just to touch on the ships:
The mere fact that ALL of those ships had set sail and were well underway shows that a significant amount of time has passed!!!
Think about the massive effort and time it takes to load the ship of the dothraki and their horses and supplies for a voyage across the sea. The loading alone would have easily taken 3-4 weeks based on the technology at hand.
The mere fact that ALL of those ships had set sail and were well underway shows that a significant amount of time has passed!!!
Think about the massive effort and time it takes to load the ship of the dothraki and their horses and supplies for a voyage across the sea. The loading alone would have easily taken 3-4 weeks based on the technology at hand.
^^ This. Exactly. Well Said.
They're all goofy.
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