Floyd Mayweather Jr. sets record- biggest guarantee ever in the history of the sport

[IGet$$]

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but is this Floyd Mayweather business model similar to an Independent Record Label (Floyd) using distribution (Golden Boy Promotions) to secure a larger portion of the revenue generated from the fights?.... Where as Pacman is basically an artist on a major label?

 

[Spectrum]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. sets record- biggest guarantee ever in the history of the sp

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but is this Floyd Mayweather business model similar to an Independent Record Label (Floyd) using distribution (Golden Boy Promotions) to secure a larger portion of the revenue generated from the fights?.... Where as Pacman is basically an artist on a major label?

pretty much. Floyd is Master P. Pacman is Drake.

 

[dime bag]

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pretty much. Floyd is Master P. Pacman is Drake.

nah manny is the lox ... arum is puff

 

[Spectrum]

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nah manny is the lox ... arum is puff

 

[Ninja05]

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nah manny is the lox ... arum is puff

Pretty much - how else do you make a ninja fire an independent accounting firm after they did the work? They already audited his shit - they found discrepancies and then they get fired? Hell naw....

 

[TeEdIzZeL]

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Smart move to have Canelo on the undercard on May 5th. A lot of Mexicans would have paid just to see him fight Mosley so that fight alone will generate a lot of PPV buys but again Floyd will take the credit for all of them. Hahaha

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

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Not quite. No fighter in history has the deal that Floyd has created for each time he steps in the ring.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/s...with-heavyweight-financial-clout.html?_r=2&hp

Exactly. These guys think that Mayweather is an idiot because he's a boxer... he's actually something completely different. He's a man in control of his own destiny.

 

[Flawless]

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Who can pac fight and make this much money? Even though he would probably end up making about 10 percent after roach and crew get their cut.

btw 50 cent is a fucking groupie, I shake my head everytime I see him following floyd around liek a lacky

 

[Max Headrom]

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So let me get this straight about Floyd and Pac fans on here... Correct me if I'm wrong

Floyd fans= Take Floyd's word at face value and believe it off top

Floyd fans on Pac fans= Believe Pac and considered dickriders and stans


Pac fans= Take Pac's word at face value and believe it off top

Pac fans on Floyd fans= Believe Floyd and considered dickriders and stans


I don't think any side can say shit about the other because it seems to be the same shit on both sides. So by both fans definitions, you're all dickriders, no???

 

[Flawless]

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So let me get this straight about Floyd and Pac fans on here... Correct me if I'm wrong

Floyd fans= Take Floyd's word at face value and believe it off top

Floyd fans on Pac fans= Believe Pac and considered dickriders and stans


Pac fans= Take Pac's word at face value and believe it off top

Pac fans on Floyd fans= Believe Floyd and considered dickriders and stans


I don't think any side can say shit about the other because it seems to be the same shit on both sides. So by both fans definitions, you're all dickriders, no???

what word is there? all Pac needs to do is to agree to take the same test that Cotto and Mayweather are taking for this fight.

 

[Max Headrom]

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what word is there? all Pac needs to do is to agree to take the same test that Cotto and Mayweather are taking for this fight.

I believe both sides deserve equal blame because there has been bullshit coming from both camps

 

[daTiger]

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well I think there are a few answers to this.

#1, by fighting Pac even with a 50-50 split he'll prob make nearly double what he's making from this fight.

#2, I don't think Pac is anywhere near as money motivated as Floyd is. ie I don't think missing out on that dough means as much to Pac as it does to Floyd.


thing I can't stand about Floyd is this fuckin dude can't make up his mind about why he doesn't wanna fight Pac. He did the interview with Michael Dyson recently and when asked would he fight pac he responded by saying the fight was ready to go but Pac didn't wanna take the 60-40 split. Now this week this dude is back to saying he doesn't wanna fight dude because of he says he's on performance enhancing drugs. Man make up your fuckin mind!!!

First off bruh. Floyd never said in that interview that he didn't want to fight Pac cause he think Pac was on that shit.

He was merely justifying the Olyimpic-style test mandate and the $40 mill cap.

Come on man.

 

[Flawless]

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I believe both sides deserve equal blame because there has been bullshit coming from both camps

really fam, you going pass up on 20mill+ because of a drug test? Something doesn't sound right

 

[Max Headrom]

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really fam, you going pass up on 20mill+ because of a drug test? Something doesn't sound right

I think the issue is more of a fighter making demands for something that boxing doesn't employ. If Floyd was worried about "cleaning up the sport" don't you think he would've made an issue about olympic testing earlier in his career as opposed to making it an issue when it comes to the fighter many think would be his toughest opponent? That isn't suspect to you fam? All I'm saying is, both sides are to blame for this fight not happening. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that

 

[Flawless]

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I think the issue is more of a fighter making demands for something that boxing doesn't employ. If Floyd was worried about "cleaning up the sport" don't you think he would've made an issue about olympic testing earlier in his career as opposed to making it an issue when it comes to the fighter many think would be his toughest opponent? That isn't suspect to you fam? All I'm saying is, both sides are to blame for this fight not happening. I don't see how anyone can disagree with that

Floyd is the #1 boxer in the world, no matter how much people hate him they have to respect his skill and accomplishments, so why shouldnt he be able to make demands, I can guarantee you that most of these so called Pac fans wouldn't know who pac was if you asked them 4 years ago. Pac probably isn't juicing but who knows, we all know cheating in boxing isn't a myth. Floyd has more to lose than Pac, if he beat floyd now only would it elevate him to greatness his pockets would be much more fatter.

 

[Max Headrom]

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Floyd is the #1 boxer in the world, no matter how much people hate him they have to respect his skill and accomplishments, so why shouldnt he be able to make demands, I can guarantee you that most of these so called Pac fans wouldn't know who pac was if you asked them 4 years ago. Pac probably isn't juicing but who knows, we all know cheating in boxing isn't a myth. Floyd has more to lose than Pac, if he beat floyd now only would it elevate him to greatness his pockets would be much more fatter.

But that's the thing about it all, Pac is only accused of being a cheater because Mumra(Floyd Sr.) said that shit out of the blue one time and everyone from Floyd's camp ran with it. Like I said, it's bullshit that has transpired from both sides and that's the reason this fight hasn't happened. It's not because Floyd is a bitch and Manny is a cheater, it's because both sides are holding an epic pissing match and the fans are the ones suffering from seeing the best fight the best

 

[dcman100]

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Thats the beauty of it dumbass. Its a company with all revenue and no actual expenses. You dont see the business benefit and financial genius in that??

Again, golden boy has a parnership promotion agreement on a per fight basis with mayweather promotions. Floyd hand picks fighters, dates, sets guidelines, venue preference and financial demands. Arum OWNS Pac.

you morons are the new members of the money team. lol!

 

[Alaskanredman]

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But that's the thing about it all, Pac is only accused of being a cheater because Mumra(Floyd Sr.) said that shit out of the blue one time and everyone from Floyd's camp ran with it. Like I said, it's bullshit that has transpired from both sides and that's the reason this fight hasn't happened. It's not because Floyd is a bitch and Manny is a cheater, it's because both sides are holding an epic pissing match and the fans are the ones suffering from seeing the best fight the best

here's the problem with this argument that has been made a million times. So what if Sr. came out of nowhere with it. Why would it matter? In fact any clean fighter would have said "that's it?" and laughed all the way to the bank. Berto came out the blue and said Ortiz is dirty. Ortiz laugh it off as he got his payday from Floyd and going to fight Berto again, but this time with the test. Pac wouldn't have lost the upper-hand in the negotiation by agreeing, which is why originally his team said it wouldn't be a problem, then it became a problem for some reason and now they are saying they are caving to that demand. Yet, they have put up every obstacle to the fight since saying they would take the test.

Floyd finally gave them a shield that they can actually used to make them look reasonable by taking the 50/50 split off the table and only offering 40 million, but they clearly didn't want the fight for some reason. I don't just say that loving or hating one side over the other, but because the reasoning from Pac's side for why they have passed on the fight makes no sense at all. My bias is towards the logic that the fighters present.

Boxing is a dirty sport so if a boxer thinks a guy is cheating for whatever reason, I understand riding with caution and with the drug testing there is relatively a cut and dry solution. Why be against it?

On the split, in what world can a motherfucker say they will take less money for a fight and then change their mind, but not only that, they are coming off a bad performance and the guy they are talking to is a bigger draw than them? Is it not up to the fighter with the edge to set the terms or do we completely want to change how the game of boxing has worked? Whether 40 million should be the figure I don't know, but the better question is whether Pac will take it or not? They are acting like it was deciding factor this time, but I called it, the same night Pac was given that gift against Marquez... he was fighting Bradley no matter what they say officially and here we are. I would bet they are going to cave and take the money. If that happens Floyd did the right thing.

 

[duppy_maka]

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all that money and he couldn't avoid jail time for that bullshit assault charge.

 

[Amajorfucup]

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you morons are the new members of the money team. lol!

Im a moron for pointing out factual differences in each fighters promotional situation?

 

[Pworld297]

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[SMD69]

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all that money and he couldn't avoid jail time for that bullshit assault charge.

He's still black

 

[mc2]

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MMA fighters are truly getting fucked... I dont understand how boxers get 10s of millions for fights and MMA fighters get peanuts in comparison. UFC Champions will be lucky to get $400k in a title defense....

 

[dcman100]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Jr. sets record- biggest guarantee ever in the history of the sp

Not quite. No fighter in history has the deal that Floyd has created for each time he steps in the ring.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/s...with-heavyweight-financial-clout.html?_r=2&hp

You stupid fucks will believe anything floyd tells you huh? Actually oscar had the same deal. He actually pioneered the shit. He founded golden boy and has pitched the same business model to a number of fighters. Yall need to stop thinking everything floyd says as fact.

 

[lilpig]

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Not hating, but Floyd's guarantee is smoke and mirrors. Like many said, he is his own boss so he can make his guarantee whatever he wants. Guarantees on fights of this level are all BS for that matter. Cotto's guarantee is 8 mil, but when the fight was first signed he was mentioned to make around 30 million after PPV. The only reason I can think of guarantees being so low is a tax/commission benefit. Props to Mayweather for stepping out of the box and maximizing his return because for a fighter to get in that ring only to have 50% of his purse eaten up by old men who never fought is a true crime.

 

[Ninja05]

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You stupid fucks will believe anything floyd tells you huh? Actually oscar had the same deal. He actually pioneered the shit. He founded golden boy and has pitched the same business model to a number of fighters. Yall need to stop thinking everything floyd says as fact.

NY Times said it though. no fighter has ever received a percentage of the hot dogs and concession stands.

 

[dcman100]

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NY Times said it though. no fighter has ever received a percentage of the hot dogs and concession stands.

they quoted him as saying that and i guess its up to the reader to believe it or not. Floyd also said that he keeps 100% of the pay per view revenue. Now do you believe that?

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

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Funny how geekef cats are getting over the amount of money pbf decided to give himself.

 

[Alaskanredman]

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Funny how geekef cats are getting over the amount of money pbf decided to give himself.

Yeah... but that's just it. He can give himself that amount and then lames think he should kowtow to a motherfucker who can even make a business decision on his own or command that kind of payday from his boss. Motherfuckers are getting hyped about the man's power to set rules that rest of the business has to abide by.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

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Yeah... but that's just it. He can give himself that amount and then lames think he should kowtow to a motherfucker who can even make a business decision on his own or command that kind of payday from his boss. Motherfuckers are getting hyped about the man's power to set rules that rest of the business has to abide by.

I guess. I don't care at this point what he is getting paid. I just want to see the fight.

 

[Ninja05]

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they quoted him as saying that and i guess its up to the reader to believe it or not. Floyd also said that he keeps 100% of the pay per view revenue. Now do you believe that?

No. I believe Floyd made $40 million off of a fight that made roughly $78 to $79 million and De La Hoya made $53 million off of a fight that made $168. Floyd could be talking about 100% of the ppv made available to promoters. After the fixed costs and distributers and HBO take their cut. That's probably what he is talking about. See its all how you view the article. I tend to look at it as it says - no other athlete has this type of deal. You tend to be cynical. That's okay

 

[DeadFresh]

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nah manny is the lox ... arum is puff

 

[MoneyInTheBank]

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[Cle Da YoungKingPin]

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While I don't think Manny would be wrong to ask for a 50/50 split, the question is "What other fight are you going to get $40 million?".

If he loses, I see Cotto retires. He's about to make close to $10 million and I don't see him being willing to risk his safety fighting these young heavy hitters like Alvarez and Kirkland.
If he gets the upset, I see him getting $12-15 million for the rematch.

Yo alvarez is the future...they setting shane up for failure tonight...that boy is a straight slugger

 

[Playa2422004]

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that boi doin numbers