Floyd Mayweather Argues With Radio Host Rude Jude Of All Out Show

[Mello Mello]

It is simple the facts don't matter because people want Manny to be the good guy and Floyd to be the bad guy. I get that most simple minded people need a narrative to conceptualize things, but I don't understand how people can ignore so much of the details to create that narrative.

This is exactly what it is.

I don't know... the loud mouth black guy thing seems to make guys bad to most at the time and heroes to others. Look up Ali.

never said anything negative? This is boxing... they do worse things to each other than talking shit and talking shit is a staple of boxing. Again look up Ali.

He was and still is innocent, but the contradictions and flat out lies will always make you a suspect of interest. Regardless, Manny is caving for a reason. Either he believes he can beat the test, has the shit out of system or realizes it is stupid not to fight a guy over a simple testing issue when you demanded a ridiculous weight requirement that the other guy agreed to.

Co-signage 100%

 

[Enigma]

How you gonna come at someone side ways then say they not supposed to be butt-hurt? Then say he ain't got nothing against him at the end of it all.

Jude is a bitch ass wanna be down white boy, talking like he's black hiding behind his microphone talking shit who gets off on being a professional asshole frustrating celebrities.

The usual from the Floyd haters.

I think you reaching... I listen to the All Out Show and Jude actually believes in Floyd and is a "fan" of his - so as I - in my opinion, as the average boxing fan, Floyd just appears scared to fight MP - point blank. Jude was just voicing his opinion and then Floyd called up all popping at the mouth - what would you have done in that situation? Just take it and say sorry Floyd?

 

[SickMyDuck]

I guess Floyd called in expecting Jude to back down... he got way under Floyd's skin.

 

[exiledking]

@ making it about race. Floyd sounds like one of the militant bgolers..if u have a difference of opinion then u must Be a cac

Pretty much.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Dude wouldn't have dare said that in person face to face!

I bet he would

CACs aint scared to take an ass whoppin for some paper

 

[babygwirl18]

The gist of the conversation is the same as it is with any Manny Pacquaio fan. It goes something like this:

Floyd - I want everyone I fight to take a drug test, PEDs are rampant in the sport.

Manny Fans - Stop being scared. Manny is not taking steroids. I'm 10000% certain of this even though he's never fought under strict testing rules. Besides, even if he is using PEDs, you should still be able to beat him. You're just scared. Manny is the BEST pound for pound boxer ever.

Floyd - OK, I disagree. But who did Pacquaio beat to make him the best pound for pound.

Manny Fans - Manny is the greatest. He only fights champions and Floyd fights bums. Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Shane Mosley.

Floyd - I beat all of them, before Manny did.

Manny Fans - Shut up, you're scared to fight.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Floyd lost that verbal bout

A boxer can't outtalk a talker, even Floyd Mayweather.

That was a waste of time...

It's not like anyone listens to Rude Jude for his boxing expertise and knowledge so why even bother?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

The gist of the conversation is the same as it is with any Manny Pacquaio fan. It goes something like this:

Floyd - I want everyone I fight to take a drug test, PEDs are rampant in the sport.

Manny Fans - Stop being scared. Manny is not taking steroids. I'm 10000% certain of this even though he's never fought under strict testing rules. Besides, even if he is using PEDs, you should still be able to beat him. You're just scared. Manny is the BEST pound for pound boxer ever.

Floyd - OK, I disagree. But who did Pacquaio beat to make him the best pound for pound.

Manny Fans - Manny is the greatest. He only fights champions and Floyd fights bums. Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Shane Mosley.

Floyd - I beat all of them, before Manny did.

Manny Fans - Shut up, you're scared to fight.

That's it.
I could pull up a hundred threads with this conversation.

 

[peterpiper1978]

Floyd fight him anyways, it dosen't matter if he's on steroids. You're bigger than him, wtf? People don't understand the impact of a person that may be on steriods or cycling.

White people logic when dealing with men of color. Fight him anyway, even if he is cheating
white logic at its finest

 

[peterpiper1978]

The gist of the conversation is the same as it is with any Manny Pacquaio fan. It goes something like this:

Floyd - I want everyone I fight to take a drug test, PEDs are rampant in the sport.

Manny Fans - Stop being scared. Manny is not taking steroids. I'm 10000% certain of this even though he's never fought under strict testing rules. Besides, even if he is using PEDs, you should still be able to beat him. You're just scared. Manny is the BEST pound for pound boxer ever.

Floyd - OK, I disagree. But who did Pacquaio beat to make him the best pound for pound.

Manny Fans - Manny is the greatest. He only fights champions and Floyd fights bums. Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Shane Mosley.

Floyd - I beat all of them, before Manny did.

Manny Fans - Shut up, you're scared to fight.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Like I said before Fam, both of them are equally to blame for this nonsense. Both have valid and invalid points... You mentioned caving... we've been down this road before and at this point, until I see both of them starting their ring walk to face each other, I'm taking any report that comes from either camp with a grain of salt. I'm more interested in the Ward vs. Froch, Bute vs Johnson fights than anything these two are involved in until they fight each other. Frankly, both of them are stealing without a gun at this point, Manny fighting a 38 year old soon to be shop worn Marquez on the strength of their first two fights years ago (even though Marquez refused a rematch just before he fought Chris John), and Floyd stealing money over an out classed, deer in the headlights looking for a nice payday before he was exposed Ortiz... smoke and mirrors man, smoke and mirrors... Hell with both of them until they fight...

Yet, you came in here intent on trying to clown anyone who you perceived as being a Floyd worshiper. You didn't go hard on these other cats for co-signing those bullshit arguments in Manny's favor.

I don't remember being down any road with you before, but I would assume it was similar to this. You come in guns blazing for anyone supporting the idea of stricter testing and thinking Pac is acting suspicious as hell. I put my position out there. I guess I'm called a Floyd dick rider of some sort. Then when I really break the shit down... You then say they are both of full of shit. Without pointing to the real problems with Floyd's position.

For whatever his motives, he wants an extra drug testing requirement... there is no reason why an athlete should turn down any drug testing and people think that it the other guy's fault for asking for the testing.

With that said, what valid points could Manny have...

 

[Nzinga]

I gotta agree with the radio dude on this one.

finally someone tells it like it is with mayweather.





i wonder if this interview has motivated this.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/03/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao?newsfeed=true

Fuck you and the radio guy. I hope Floyd does not fight that little Filipino bitch until he accepts the testing...

 

[Nzinga]

Yet, you came in here intent on trying to clown anyone who you perceived as being a Floyd worshiper. You didn't go hard on these other cats for co-signing those bullshit arguments in Manny's favor.

I don't remember being down any road with you before, but I would assume it was similar to this. You come in guns blazing for anyone supporting the idea of stricter testing and thinking Pac is acting suspicious as hell. I put my position out there. I guess I'm called a Floyd dick rider of some sort. Then when I really break the shit down... You then say they are both of full of shit. Without pointing to the real problems with Floyd's position.

For whatever his motives, he wants an extra drug testing requirement... there is no reason why an athlete should turn down any drug testing and people think that it the other guy's fault for asking for the testing.

With that said, what valid points could Manny have...

End this thread.

 

[Nzinga]

Nope. SOmeone like Hagler, Ezzard Charles, Charley Burley, Sam Langford. Those are the best. They fought EVERYONE and were clear in many of their victories. Floyd was of that ilk as a Jr. Lightweight. The fighters previously mentioned were like that ALL THE TIME.

They fought whoever came in the ring clean. They would not fight you if they knew you had loaded gloves

 

[Nzinga]

Cause he is insecure. Anytime he talks the first thing is the money, cars, homes,blah blah, blah. Shit on 24.7 he was showing the soldiers his house and cars. Like those cats really care about that stuff. I know I didn't but that's me. I kind of don't care about anyone's elses material possession. Shit was funny. When Jude was messing with PBF though. "why you care?" The reason is because if you don't acknowledge PBF has money his butt get hurt. If you make valid points about his career, he gets butt hurt. I thought the interview was something he needs to hear. Cause he is viewed just as Jude called it. I mean I expect PBF to get a decision over Manny. But you still can be critical about his body of work.

or maybe he is cocky in life as he is in the ring....The man has hundreds of millions to his name, why would he be insecure? Let Manny agree to the standard of drug testing that the Olympics uses and we will be done....You people so hate Floyd that you would give Manny a sledge hammer in the ring if he did not come with one hidden in his pants...

 

[KoolJay]

Honestly.... why was Floyd mad???
I guess, if you're praisin him, he get's upset.
When you're back is against the wall, pull the ole race card....

 

[jasonblacc]

floyd fight him anyways, it dosen't matter if he's on steroids. You're bigger than him, wtf? People don't understand the impact of a person that may be on steriods or cycling.

that jude guy lost the debate immediately after he said this shit....floyd should have just hung up the phone, ain't no sense in trying to reason with somebody who says it doesn't matter if manny cheats...gtfoh!!!

c/s

 

[J Storm]

Rude Jude is still that wigga.

He use to have me rollin' on the Jenny Jones show.

 

[MadWun]

My new BGOL line for these bitch ass fags on here:

"You sound insecure, and butt hurt"



Floyd needs to put up or shut the fuck up: Only one fight out there, and he needs to take it to prove himself.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Yet, you came in here intent on trying to clown anyone who you perceived as being a Floyd worshiper. You didn't go hard on these other cats for co-signing those bullshit arguments in Manny's favor.

I don't remember being down any road with you before, but I would assume it was similar to this. You come in guns blazing for anyone supporting the idea of stricter testing and thinking Pac is acting suspicious as hell. I put my position out there. I guess I'm called a Floyd dick rider of some sort. Then when I really break the shit down... You then say they are both of full of shit. Without pointing to the real problems with Floyd's position.

For whatever his motives, he wants an extra drug testing requirement... there is no reason why an athlete should turn down any drug testing and people think that it the other guy's fault for asking for the testing.

With that said, what valid points could Manny have...

No doubt Dude... You got me! I was breaking balls, fucking around with people... I do feel the way I do concerning Floyd, but ultimately, I'm not broken up over any of this at this point... it is what it is...

Do I believe Manny is Juicing... Probably! But... there is a way to go about things. Not saying this is Manny's reasoning, but, the way to go about it would have been by just requesting testing, and approaching any dialog more diplomatically, not 'He Juicing!!!', blah blah blah without any conclusive evidence!?!?!? In my corporate profession, one of my mentors back in the day gave me advice that has been the greatest... a skill to learn is to get peoople to do what you want them to do, without them knowing you are doing that to them... It to me would be a matter of principle... You accused me of something... now its personal. You made a claim attacking my professionalism, now prove your reasoning with more than just accusations, and I'll take any test you want...

 

[keone]

The gist of the conversation is the same as it is with any Manny Pacquaio fan. It goes something like this:

Floyd - I want everyone I fight to take a drug test, PEDs are rampant in the sport.

Manny Fans - Stop being scared. Manny is not taking steroids. I'm 10000% certain of this even though he's never fought under strict testing rules. Besides, even if he is using PEDs, you should still be able to beat him. You're just scared. Manny is the BEST pound for pound boxer ever.

Floyd - OK, I disagree. But who did Pacquaio beat to make him the best pound for pound.

Manny Fans - Manny is the greatest. He only fights champions and Floyd fights bums. Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Shane Mosley.

Floyd - I beat all of them, before Manny did.

Manny Fans - Shut up, you're scared to fight.

 

[Oracle21]

its funny how floyd always has to defend himself lol. Cotto, pacman, andre ward always say let people think what htey want and they go handle business. At times I feel bad for mayweather. He is like an insecure child. But he needs to rid himself of that and realize his accomplihsments and keep getting it.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

its funny how floyd always has to defend himself lol. Cotto, pacman, andre ward always say let people think what htey want and they go handle business. At times I feel bad for mayweather. He is like an insecure child. But he needs to rid himself of that and realize his accomplihsments and keep getting it.

No doubt! He has accomplished a lot and that's what I said earlier, he needs to just stop talking about this shit... My fear for Floyd is, even with what he has accomplished, he is still insecure and will NEVER be able to drift off into retirement and enjoy life... I believe he is gonna be the type of Dude who is always into some bullshit! The sad thing is, he really doesn't have any other discernible skills to transition into a non athlete... Broadcasting , promoting... maybe but he's burning a lot of bridges and most will not want to work with him... Maybe as a trainer, but I see him a lot like his father, his personality will over ride his fighters, he will make it more about him, and the minute he trains an elite fighter it won't last because of conflicts between him and the fighter.

Damn shame actually...

 

[ELLISON]

For real though he at stage where he should have his head in a book everyday cause it shows.........nuff said.

so keeping your head in a book makes you....??

i'm going to try that at work today and see what it gets me..

 

[Top_Bunk]

If I was manny I would make a counter provision.....if I pass the first drug test I get $20,000 grand. for every steroid test I take and pass afterthat you double the money.

If he really ain't juicing now is the time to play it into your favor.

 

[doggish_098]

I see a lot of folks pulled their floyd capes out in the late night early morning hours...

 

[Zeferino]

Damn Fam... Your idol got checked huh? You sound a little hurt It's gonna be ok.. now. now...

 

[Alaskanredman]

No doubt Dude... You got me! I was breaking balls, fucking around with people... I do feel the way I do concerning Floyd, but ultimately, I'm not broken up over any of this at this point... it is what it is...

Do I believe Manny is Juicing... Probably! But... there is a way to go about things. Not saying this is Manny's reasoning, but, the way to go about it would have been by just requesting testing, and approaching any dialog more diplomatically, not 'He Juicing!!!', blah blah blah without any conclusive evidence!?!?!? In my corporate profession, one of my mentors back in the day gave me advice that has been the greatest... a skill to learn is to get peoople to do what you want them to do, without them knowing you are doing that to them... It to me would be a matter of principle... You accused me of something... now its personal. You made a claim attacking my professionalism, now prove your reasoning with more than just accusations, and I'll take any test you want...

So your problem is that he wasn't extra diplomatic in a business were you punch each other in the face for money..... I guess that is a POV I haven't considered, because I'm used to boxers talking shit to sell fights.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

So your problem is that he wasn't extra diplomatic in a business were you punch each other in the face for money..... I guess that is a POV I haven't considered, because I'm used to boxers talking shit to sell fights.

The difference is, the face punching is a small portion of the overall 'business'. You have months of hype, selling, etc. but when the accusations can have an impact on future earnings, and 'legacy' a line has to be drawn. There is a difference between talking shit about 'knocking you out', and accusing me of cheating... Telling me what you are going to do in the ring is different then accusing me of cheating! I actually had a little issue with it when he fought Corrales and went in on Corrales' domestic struggles with his wife, which honestly Floyd didn't give a fuck about, he was just using that as a platform. After the fight, I believe he's been accused of the same shit! Then, he gets mortally wounded when he is confronted on his bullshit. I don't have a problem with trash talking, boxing would be freaking boring as golf without it, but there are limits to everything...

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

The gist of the conversation is the same as it is with any Manny Pacquaio fan. It goes something like this:

Floyd - I want everyone I fight to take a drug test, PEDs are rampant in the sport.

Manny Fans - Stop being scared. Manny is not taking steroids. I'm 10000% certain of this even though he's never fought under strict testing rules. Besides, even if he is using PEDs, you should still be able to beat him. You're just scared. Manny is the BEST pound for pound boxer ever.

Floyd - OK, I disagree. But who did Pacquaio beat to make him the best pound for pound.

Manny Fans - Manny is the greatest. He only fights champions and Floyd fights bums. Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Shane Mosley.

Floyd - I beat all of them, before Manny did.

Manny Fans - Shut up, you're scared to fight.

 

[Alaskanredman]

The difference is, the face punching is a small portion of the overall 'business'. You have months of hype, selling, etc. but when the accusations can have an impact on future earnings, and 'legacy' a line has to be drawn. There is a difference between talking shit about 'knocking you out', and accusing me of cheating... Telling me what you are going to do in the ring is different then accusing me of cheating! I actually had a little issue with it when he fought Corrales and went in on Corrales' domestic struggles with his wife, which honestly Floyd didn't give a fuck about, he was just using that as a platform. After the fight, I believe he's been accused of the same shit! Then, he gets mortally wounded when he is confronted on his bullshit.

In a sport were Ali called Fraiser a "Tom" an ugly gorilla even at Klan rallies... I'm not thrown off by any shit talking.

As far as that Manny legacy shit... when you take the test and pass it... you make Floyd look like an idiot and everyone would have been satisfied. They just tried to pull that shit with Marquez... he denied it and said test me... I don't see anyone talking about it any more. Berto accused Ortiz of the same thing. Ortiz took the test to fight Floyd and no one is talking about his legacy being tarnished... That is a silly argument.

 

[da_monumental_1]

That's it.
I could pull up a hundred threads with this conversation.

This has happened with Floyd before.

Remember how everyone was saying Corrales was a major threat to Floyd and how Corrales beat their common opponents better. Assholes used to argue over on the HBO Boxing boards, Floyd is scared of Corrales (showing my age). Well, we know what happened when they eventually fought.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

In a sport were Ali called Fraiser a "Tom" an ugly gorilla even at Klan rallies... I'm not thrown off by any shit talking.

As far as that Manny legacy shit... when you take the test and pass it... you make Floyd look like an idiot and everyone would have been satisfied. They just tried to pull that shit with Marquez... he denied it and said test me... I don't see anyone talking about it any more. Berto accused Ortiz of the same thing. Ortiz took the test to fight Floyd and no one is talking about his legacy being tarnished... That is a silly argument.

It's a silly argument for you... and you are entitled to your opinion as am I. The way people interpret a violation of their character is their personal choice. Calling someone a 'Tom' and calling someone a cheater are different scenarios completely. Plus, there are other factors involved as well when detailing different fighters. Say, by chance, Marquez has taken PEDs, he submits to the test, gets his ass kicked, however he still makes 10 times more money than any other time in his career... plus he still has his great showing in the previous 2 fights to fall back on. He loses, he has the excuse of aging, being outweighed, whatever, so it's a win win for him. Ortiz, he NEEDED the Berto fight to ascend so he definitely would submit to anything. This goes for any fighter not named Manny or Floyd. In this case, neither of them needs the other to make millions, maybe not what they would make fighting each other, but they both make outrageous sums of money regardless... so there is no real incentive to 'prove' anything on Manny's part, especially if he feels disrespected... so, actually, it isn't a 'silly' argument...

 

[Upgrade Dave]

The only thing I disagree with was that Carlos was the last fighter he fought. Sure he was a linear champ and all. But Chico was his last fight with a peer that was in his prime.Everything else was on point.

Zab Judah was in his prime for their fight and Carlos, not a great fighter at all, was the hottest guy in the division and lineal champ (as you said).
Let's stipulate now that Manny is in his prime. I've noticed every time Floyd fights someone people find something wrong with them after the fact. They go from the guy who's going to be "The One" to too old/too young/too small/not good enough.

That Jude guy lost the debate immediately after he said this shit....Floyd should have just hung up the phone, ain't no sense in trying to reason with somebody who says it doesn't matter if Manny cheats...GTFOH!!!

Honestly Dude, I don't blame Floyd for wanting the test, but... at this point, move on, chill and let public opinion force the fight. It has happened before... The best thing for him to do is not to talk too much.. about ANY damn thing! The more him or his family talks, the more their brains fall out!?!?! If you don't plan on fighting the Dude without the test, don't make dumb ass statements like you will beat him with or without PEDs, because you are going to get called on that statement!!! That's my whole point, him and his pops and uncle talk to damn much! That's why they are slowly looking like idiots, whereas Manny for the most part is universally loved! Manny may be a sneaky foul ass PED taking bastard, but, he is playing his cards damn near perfectly through all of this, thus he gets the benefit of the doubt for the most part...

They do talk too much but that's the image they've cultivated and it's made them a literal ton of money. Same goes for Manny and Freddie Roach.
Everyone's playing their position to perfection.

mayweather says: paquioa fighting all my left overs....
then dude said: "he beat them better than you"
Obviously ... Paq see their weaknesses and how to beat them from when Mayweather beat them ...

Dude said: "so what if he's on steroids... you should still beat him"
at what cost? lose an eye like sugar ray? get brain damage cause you want people's approval??

yall don't know what "duckin" mean if you call what dude is doing ducking...

Riddick Bowe ducked Lennox Lewis. Asking a guy to take the same tests you're going to take and hoping he says no isn't "ducking". What happens if he says yes?

 

[asiam]

The host is a fucking fag. "Who cares if he is taking steroids, you bigger than him anyway" that is the single dumbest statement I ever heard.