What we watching is everybody going for 2nd place.
This is a competition to be Trumps VP
This is a competition to be Trumps VP
First GOP Debate 8/23- DeSantis PAC Debate Strategy Exposed
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As much I hate fake-ass Haley, her approach to this debate is good.
The abortion issue is gonna wreck Republicans. Pence has Zero chance of winning. So does Desantis goofy ass.
Abortion is crazy
Tim Miller had some smart commentary about a convention strategy... I think it's a competition to be first in line when Trump implodes.
MIKE PENCE IS FUCKING CRAZY!!!!!!
LMBAOOO
LMBAOOO
Same difference because VP gets first dibs
Everybody remembers LBJ
Nobody remembers Aaron Burr
This Gov is crapping
Fuck the states
Fuck the states
Roland Martin said they are not pro life but Anti abortion.
“Abortion on demand”
Wow
Wow
Smartest guy on the stage:
The Pence vs Vivek clashes are really interesting. I don't think GOP voters want a political revolution and Pence would crush him if it was 2008... I'm not sure now but it will be interesting to see the fallout!
I disagree with regard to Christie but this is a good line:
How does he raise his hand after he threw a bitch fit about hand raising on the climate change question???? 
Tim Scott, the only person who actually votes on funding Ukraine is silent.
This dumb bitch...
This is why I hate the Democratic establishment @Dr. "Both sides!!!!"
Just full of shit, excrement and cowardice. The right to an abortion is important up until birth because the only reason women get abortions in the final months is out of medical necessity. And this weak bullshit (retweeted by Jim Messina, Obama's 2012 campaign manager) only helps these bastard Republicans.
I do support abortion up until birth because the alternative is a death sentence for innocent women.
Republican-lite enables Republicans.
That's why I support authentic truly left leaders.
This is why I hate the Democratic establishment @Dr. "Both sides!!!!"
Just full of shit, excrement and cowardice. The right to an abortion is important up until birth because the only reason women get abortions in the final months is out of medical necessity. And this weak bullshit (retweeted by Jim Messina, Obama's 2012 campaign manager) only helps these bastard Republicans.
I do support abortion up until birth because the alternative is a death sentence for innocent women.
Republican-lite enables Republicans.
That's why I support authentic truly left leaders.
Vivek is a better politician than DeSantis-- that "finger in the air" move as DeSantis spoke was effective.
Fucking clown:
Clowns at the NAACP say "literally no one"-- citing a graphic showing several states do:
Some people who actually know what happens in reality:
Clowns at the NAACP say "literally no one"-- citing a graphic showing several states do:
Some people who actually know what happens in reality:
If Trump gets convicted,the latter might get the win..unless Biden sweeps through
Wrong, Trump dying quick would be the worst. Because then The Daughters of the Confederacy will put in every Textbook that he was NEVER convicted of anything. He Must be Convicted before he dies
Glenn Beck's audience on who won: Vivek 52%, DeSantis 37%, Haley 9%, Scott 1.5%
Obviously skewed my excluding half the options-- Christie and Pence especially.
They concluded that it is a three person race-- Trump, DeSantis & Vivek.
On the left, TYT asserts DeSantis is done and that Vivek winning while kissing Trump's ass means Trump won:
Politico:
VIVEK: Learn how to pronounce his name (it rhymes with “cake”), because he’s not going away. Unlike in a general election, debates in a primary make it uniquely difficult to stand out because the candidates generally agree on so many issues.
Once upon a time, the main way to get attention was to pick a few spots and exaggerate policy differences with rivals. Nowadays, especially in a Republican Party ruled by Trump, you also need to be entertaining. VIVEK RAMASWAMY has learned both lessons well.
He succeeded in turning himself into the main character of the debate, especially in the crucial early minutes when the ratings are the highest. He was at the center of key clashes over funding for Ukraine (no), sending military troops to the Mexican border (yes), and whether to pardon Trump (hell yes). Only one other candidate had more speaking time.
He showed a knack for populist one-liners. RON DeSANTIS and other rivals are “super PAC puppets.” He finds “it offensive that we have professional politicians who will make a pilgrimage to Kyiv, to their pope, [VOLODYMYR] ZELENSKYY, without doing the same for the people in Maui or the south side of Chicago.”
...
Ramaswamy is proving more adept at trolling the libs, pressing populist contrarian views on issues such as Ukraine, and expressing his undying fealty to Trump. These were once the Florida governor’s bread and butter. But last night he was restrained. He wasn’t heard from for long stretches, and he allowed Ramaswamy, Pence, Christie and even Haley to steal all the attention.
At one point, Ramaswamy quipped, “We’re just gonna have some fun tonight,” and he looked like he meant it.
DeSantis did not appear to be having fun.
www.nytimes.com
Obviously skewed my excluding half the options-- Christie and Pence especially.
They concluded that it is a three person race-- Trump, DeSantis & Vivek.
On the left, TYT asserts DeSantis is done and that Vivek winning while kissing Trump's ass means Trump won:
Politico:
VIVEK: Learn how to pronounce his name (it rhymes with “cake”), because he’s not going away. Unlike in a general election, debates in a primary make it uniquely difficult to stand out because the candidates generally agree on so many issues.
Once upon a time, the main way to get attention was to pick a few spots and exaggerate policy differences with rivals. Nowadays, especially in a Republican Party ruled by Trump, you also need to be entertaining. VIVEK RAMASWAMY has learned both lessons well.
He succeeded in turning himself into the main character of the debate, especially in the crucial early minutes when the ratings are the highest. He was at the center of key clashes over funding for Ukraine (no), sending military troops to the Mexican border (yes), and whether to pardon Trump (hell yes). Only one other candidate had more speaking time.
He showed a knack for populist one-liners. RON DeSANTIS and other rivals are “super PAC puppets.” He finds “it offensive that we have professional politicians who will make a pilgrimage to Kyiv, to their pope, [VOLODYMYR] ZELENSKYY, without doing the same for the people in Maui or the south side of Chicago.”
...
Ramaswamy is proving more adept at trolling the libs, pressing populist contrarian views on issues such as Ukraine, and expressing his undying fealty to Trump. These were once the Florida governor’s bread and butter. But last night he was restrained. He wasn’t heard from for long stretches, and he allowed Ramaswamy, Pence, Christie and even Haley to steal all the attention.
At one point, Ramaswamy quipped, “We’re just gonna have some fun tonight,” and he looked like he meant it.
DeSantis did not appear to be having fun.
Ramaswamy Seizes Spotlight as DeSantis Hangs Back: 7 Debate Takeaways (Published 2023)
As Republican presidential candidates traded fire at their first debate, they mostly left their party’s dominant front-runner unscathed.
I didn't think about Trump's Epstein ties when I saw this clip-- The suggestion that he is projecting when he talks about how horrible prison is for a rich guy is interesting:
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