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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen
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Pretty much, but with a few exceptions
For instance, I am not Trump nor do I support him in any way
Also, make no mistake. This raid is very significant and is something neither have had to deal with before. However, it's also something that the FBI rarely does to lawyers. Both Trump and Mueller are stepping into uncharted territory here. This is a battle of the titans.
I still give the edge to Trump because he has more money, a more powerful office, and the big advantage of presumed innocence. He also has a network of fall guys that can take the blame for all or part of any collusion.
Make no mistake though. This battle will not be easy. Neither Trump, the FBI, or the country will come out unscathed
There's no telling how long he has been under surveillancei didn't even put it together that he was hiding.
i bought the line that he had a leak or some contractors at his house.
wow, i am an idiot.
ninja wtf.
Appointed by trump
WTF are blacked people flat earther ?????....
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Its called a typo
You a lawyer, old school???
yall cats deify people easy as fuck
Right here is where you confirmed you don't know what you're talking about.
So ur saying that your excuse is...that you got Hulk hands....and hit 2 letters...."e" & "d" that aren't even close to "k"....and have absolutely nothing to do with the word black ??? You got a flat earther key board too ???
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So ur saying that your excuse is...that you got Hulk hands....and hit 2 letters...."e" & "d" that aren't even close to "k"....and have absolutely nothing to do with the word black ??? You got a flat earther key board too ???
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Im not sure what your tring to imply but I have been a member of this board since 1997. Who the fuck knows how I made that typo.
He's gonna have to fire Sessions and Rosenstein and then get someone to fire Mueller. Please do that shit Trump!! lmbaooo... i hope he just goes full autocrat. Go for it all Trump!
Huh? FBI and CIA > white house. White House may have "authority" but the info and ways to touch people and make moves is way more powerful. They can take out anyone they want
I'm not implying...anything....it ain't a typo when the keys are that far apart...and not even letters in the intended word...simple !!!
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Dude go eat a dick your playing with the wrong one.
Michael Cohen is the most important non-Trump in the Trump business world. He oversaw nearly all the foreign deals as the Trump Org shifted its focus to sketchy third-tier overseas oligarchs. 1/
Adam DavidsonVerified account@adamdavidson 10h10 hours ago
He was not part of the Trump Org legal team in any real sense. Trump Org lawyers either set up contracts for deals others had brought or they handled litigation. Cohen did neither. He was a deal maker. The only non-Trump deal maker doing all those international deals.- Adam DavidsonVerified account@adamdavidson 10h10 hours ago
He, Ivanka, and Don, Jr., were the entire global development team at a time when the company was exploring dozens of deals all over the world. If he were to flip, it would be Ivanka and Don, Jr. who should be most worried.
- We know, of course, that the Trump Org did business with corrupt politicians, sanctions-violators, money launderers, etc. The only open question is how much they knew about their partners' activity. Cohen knows how much they knew. He knows what he told them.
- He is also the most obvious link between Trump and Russia. He oversaw the deal in Georgia which was, explicitly, a first attempt at a former Soviet deal with the goal of a ring of Trump properties all over the CIS. 5/
- Cohen flew to Kazakhstan and negotiated the failed deal there with Timur Kulibayev, a close ally of Putin's. Cohen then worked on the Trump Moscow deal in 2015/2016. 6/
- In none of these deals was he acting like a traditional lawyer--simply advising, writing contracts, etc. He was in the country, meeting with the partners, structuring the deal, going back to NY and explaining the deal to the big boss and his kids.
- Other than the President, nobody knows as much as Cohen. (And Cohen does seem to have a good memory). It was stunning that Trump made Cohen his sole personal attorney post-election. Cohen left the Trump Org to form a firm with one client: the President.
- But Cohen had never acted as a regular attorney for Trump. He had always been the fixer/deal-maker. So, the move to his new private firm seems solely designed to provide attorney-client privilege. To get his documents out of the Trump Org and into a private office.
- This moment is what Trump has been terrified of and trying to avoid since long before Comey was fired and Mueller appointed. Short of Ivanka or Don, Jr. flipping, Cohen is the key witness.
- He knows way, way more than Manafort or Gates. Also key: it's been a rough year-plus for Cohen. He lost his place in Trump's inner-circle, didn't get the big ticket to the WH.
- He has been loudly/vocally loyal, But, in my experience, nobody in Trump-world is truly loyal. It's all transactional and a grand performance. (People have actually told me: I don't care how you make Trump look, just make me look like I am defending him.) 12/
- I'd guess the probability of a Cohen-pardon is high and the likelihood of Mueller being fired has grown. I would also guess that there are NY state charges. Mueller, of course, knows all this and much more and referred the raid anyway. It's on now. 13/end
At this point, I think he's desperate enough to try it and hope his GOP hold is enough to have his back.
You have to understand him firing Mueller isn't a guaranteed death sentence. Also, if you listen to the GOP folks talk about it, maybe outside of McCain, no one seems to be drawing the hard line that they won't stand for it.
I think there is a decent chance he could survive the outrage of firing Mueller.
What are "the people" going to do? Not a damn thing!
What are the Dems going to do? Not a damn thing they don't have the numbers?
What is the GOP going to do? Maintain the status-quo they've bend over for him this far? What's the worst in bending over again?
So once more? Who's going to do something significant to make him PAY for doing something like that?
Mannn,
Didn't you know we have Einsteinian combined with Newtonian combined with Ramanujan combined with Euler level intellects running the White House?
Oh. The GOP House won't act. I'm sure of it. However, the GOP won't control the House after the midterms. If he fires Mueller, he's going to get impeached
I'm with you though man. I think at this point he HAS to fire rosenstein and sessions and then Mueller. It's a horrible move but it's his only move. That's just the hand he has right now.
He has to both get Mueller fired, seriously impede the investigation by any means possible +start a war. he can't continue a war (Syria). he needs his own war.
I think he's done no matter what he does at this point... he's hella down on the score card, but maybe he can land a lucky late round KO.
It's too close to midterms to fire him, IMO. They are already going to take a hit. Fire Mueller w/o consequences and all hell will break loose. Even moderate republicans would flip.
One more thing.. this is way beyond being POTUS. He's fighting for the survival of his family. he almost has a responsibility to go full autocrat right now
Trump getting impeached would actually be him getting over at this point.
That's why I hope he does it. The investigation(s) will continue. But I hope Trump starts a trade war + fires Mueller.... There is already a massive wave coming but Trump has a chance to make this historic for the Dems...
Fuck you ...go read a book and take a grammar class...and take your own advice....hose handler !!!!
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Logically all that makes sense and that's what should happen.
But you'll have to excuse me with all that's happened, thus far, for taking the skeptical approach here.
Honestly, would it really surprise you if
1) Turn out isn't what we all expect?
2) Very likely, There is more fuckery (Hacking, Voter suppression, Interference etc) with the mid-term results?
There will always be fuckery. That's why I always say don't get complacent because the GOP cheats. Their active base tho is the crazies/teaparty folks and senior citizens. Too many seniors have memories of watergate, he start firing folks to get to Mueller, and I think they will sit out or vote dem.
Dems are already fired up. Young folks over gun issues. Lots of women and women candidates. If Mueller gets fired, that's tossing gasoline on what is already going to be an inferno.
The GOP has already done the tax heist, they decided to take the money and run a while back. They aren't expecting to win.
I'm just hoping things aren't falling apart past the point of no return once we finally get a majority again.
One more thing.. this is way beyond being POTUS. He's fighting for the survival of his family. he almost has a responsibility to go full autocrat right now
Trump getting impeached would actually be him getting over at this point.
Trump is going for life-time Dictatorship! He's extending Presidential Terms to forever!
Y'all talking about elections...
Trump v. Clinton was the last election this country will ever have.
Understand this is more than the threat of "impeachment" for him and his family.
Logically, he and others could also be looking at jail time.
Shit if that doesn't work he's about to order Nukes be dropped somewhere.....
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