ESPN's Chris Broussard calls homosexuality a 'sin' in segment about Jason Collins

Do YOU think ESPN will FIRE him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 26.1%
  • Suspension

    Votes: 27 19.0%
  • No

    Votes: 78 54.9%

  • Total voters
    142
Listening to it, and putting it in context, even if you don't agree. What Chris said was said very intelligently. He didn't bash homosexuals, he framed it in reference to all sinners. To be against what he said, ESPN/Disney would have face a big backlash from christian organizations.
 
:bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo:

Collins, in an interview with George Stephanopoulos on “Good Morning America,” said of Broussard’s comments: ”I am a Christian. I will state that very proudly…. You can’t please everyone”

In a statement, ESPN said: “We regret that a respectful discussion of personal viewpoints became a distraction from today’s news. ESPN is fully committed to diversity and welcomes Jason Collins’ announcement.”
On Twitter late Monday night, Broussard added:

“Today on OTL, as part of a larger, wide-ranging discussion on today’s news, I offered my personal opinion as it relates to Christianity, a point of view that I have expressed publicly before. I realize that some people disagree with my opinion and I accept and respect that. As has been the case in the past, my beliefs have not and will not impact my ability to report on the NBA. I believe Jason Collins displayed bravery with his announcement today and I have no objection to him or anyone else playing in the NBA.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...d-after-controversial-jason-collins-comments/

thanx IIWII
 
Actually, Jesus says the Old Law is valid. He came to fulfill it, but your response is typical. You cherrypick in order to confirm your presuppositions.

The operative word in this statement is FULFILL.

Definition of fulfill.

Bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).

There are the 3 words that are most relevant to the discussion.

Law
Fulfill
Covenant

Jesus came to fulfill the law according to the covenant made between Abraham and the Most High.

Definition of COVENANT

1: a usually formal, solemn, and binding agreement : compact
2: a written agreement or promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action


The problem with the aftermath resulting from the life and times of Jesus is that he never brought about any new laws nor did he setup a new system of things.

Jesus told his disciples that they wasn't ready nor was the children of Israel so it is better that he leave.

His mission was not accomplished. All of his disciples were rounded up and slaughtered.

Christians have no laws or direction other that what was already written before Jesus.
 
to masturbate you have to lust for that women in your mind and heart, your mind visualizes the lust and your heart pumps the blood which that gives you the erection you dig? so according to the scripture once you even look at her lustfully you've already sinned, even before you get the erection to masturbate, therefore causing a sin

I'm okay with what you stated above. That is still not referring to the issue of spilling your seed and why God was displeased when the individual did so. It was because it was a direct order to have sex with a woman to make an offspring. The guy pulled out and nutted on the ground or whatever because he did not want to have a child by a particular woman. That has nothing to do with lust or masturbation. You know as well as I know that a males body will naturally make you nutt to signify that you are now capable of making kids as well as the case to alleviate built up semen and sperm. With that being said are we held accountable for what our bodies does naturally. I think not.
 
The operative word in this statement is FULFILL.

Definition of fulfill.

Bring to completion or reality; achieve or realize (something desired, promised, or predicted).

There are the 3 words that are most relevant to the discussion.

Law
Fulfill
Covenant

Jesus came to fulfill the law according to the covenant made between Abraham and the Most High.

Definition of COVENANT

1: a usually formal, solemn, and binding agreement : compact
2: a written agreement or promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action


The problem with the aftermath resulting from the life and times of Jesus is that he never brought about any new laws nor did he setup a new system of things.

Jesus told his disciples that they wasn't ready nor was the children of Israel so it is better that he leave.

His mission was not accomplished. All of his disciples were rounded up and slaughtered.

Christians have no laws or direction other that what was already written before Jesus.
show me in scripture? Jesus did new teach new ways of living and it was a new system, before Jesus you dealt directly with God, after Jesus no man can come to the father but through the son. how is that not different ?
 
I'm okay with what you stated above. That is still not referring to the issue of spilling your seed and why God was displeased when the individual did so. It was because it was a direct order to have sex with a woman to make an offspring. The guy pulled out and nutted on the ground or whatever because he did not want to have a child by a particular woman. That has nothing to do with lust or masturbation. You know as well as I know that a males body will naturally make you nutt to signify that you are now capable of making kids as well as the case to alleviate built up semen and sperm. With that being said are we held accountable for what our bodies does naturally. I think not.

#1 God like anyone else is upset when you disobey direct orders, that's simple. that's what the old testament teaches and shows, what happens when you disobey God, and what good things come to you by being obedient (that's why Moses and his people were lost in the wilderness for 40 years) simply because they would not obey the word of god, so God let them wander for 40 years until they finally got it. and he's doing the same in some of your lives! until you get it you'll be lost forever!

#2 your body naturally having a orgasm and you physically forcing a orgasm is 2 different things, so no you naturally having a orgasm is not counted against you, but you lusting and forcing a physical orgasm is. So when you have pre-martial sex or you masturbate, you sin against your own body (your body is a temple of god) so when you defile your body in anyway, shape or form you sin against yourself and GOD who created you in his image
 
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#1 God like anyone else is upset when you disobey direct orders, that's simple. that's what the old testament teaches and shows, what happens when you disobey God, and what good things come to you by being obedient (that's why Moses and his people were lost in the wilderness for 40 years) simply because they would not obey the word of god, so God let them wander for 40 years until they finally got it. and he's doing the same in some of your lives! until you get it you'll be lost forever!

#2 your body naturally having a orgasm and you physically forcing a orgasm is 2 different things, so no you naturally having a orgasm is not counted against you, but you lusting and forcing a physical orgasm is. So when you have pre-martial sex or you masturbate, you sin against you:lol:r own body (your body is a temple of god) so when you defile your body in anyway, shape or form you sin against yourself and GOD who created you in his image

I agree....I'm lusting after your Sig.......
 
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show me in scripture? Jesus did new teach new ways of living and it was a new system, before Jesus you dealt directly with God, after Jesus no man can come to the father but through the son. how is that not different ?

How can I show you something that doesn't exist?

The laws given to Moses were written and memorized by priest and presided over by judges. Nothing exists as law for Christians. Jesus didn't teach a new law. If you believe he did then show it. What book of the new testament contains the laws given by Jesus?

I am saying Jesus didn't leave a law or a system or a theocracy or rules or direction. Jesus told his followers to spread the news that a new kingdom was to come.

What is this new way of living taught by Jesus? I live in the USA and I have never observed it.

If you must deal with Jesus and not the father then Jesus is obstacle/barrier between u and god? Is that a good thing.

Sorry my brother, Christianity is lawless, directionless and represented by 4 different churches at the same intersection in every city.

I'll wait on the Jesus laws.
 
How can I show you something that doesn't exist?

The laws given to Moses were written and memorized by priest and presided over by judges. Nothing exists as law for Christians. Jesus didn't teach a new law. If you believe he did then show it. What book of the new testament contains the laws given by Jesus?

I am saying Jesus didn't leave a law or a system or a theocracy or rules or direction. Jesus told his followers to spread the news that a new kingdom was to come.

What is this new way of living taught by Jesus? I live in the USA and I have never observed it.
start with matthew 5:17 -7:29 it's all over the new testament

If you must deal with Jesus and not the father then Jesus is obstacle/barrier between u and god? Is that a good thing.
don't know, but that's the way he wanted it


Sorry my brother, Christianity is lawless, directionless and represented by 4 different churches at the same intersection in every city.

I'll wait on the Jesus laws.
pick up a book and read :lol:start with matthew 5:17 -7:29 it's all over the new testament
 
#2 your body naturally having a orgasm and you physically forcing a orgasm is 2 different things, so no you naturally having a orgasm is not counted against you, but you lusting and forcing a physical orgasm is. So when you have pre-martial sex or you masturbate, you sin against your own body (your body is a temple of god) so when you defile your body in anyway, shape or form you sin against yourself and GOD who created you in his image

No disrespect whatsoever, but 2 points here:

1) By your argument of "physically forcing an orgasm", you are committing a sin, because whether you're married or not, when you fuck, you're forcing an orgasm...

2) If it is a sin to masturbate...then, pray tell, why are you on a porn board like BGOL? I'm just sayin'...we can't throw stones in a glass house, now...
 
No disrespect whatsoever, but 2 points here:

1) By your argument of "physically forcing an orgasm", you are committing a sin, because whether you're married or not, when you fuck, you're forcing an orgasm...

2) If it is a sin to masturbate...then, pray tell, why are you on a porn board like BGOL? I'm just sayin'...we can't throw stones in a glass house, now...

There is no prohibition regarding masturbation. It is not a sin because there is no law against it. Folks in the past made things up to control lesser informed folks.

Furthermore, being aroused is not the same as being lustful. Being aroused can be a simple reaction to visual or physical stimulation. Lust is much more intense and immersive. You may lust for your girlfriend and this can be confused with love.

No one confuses arousal with love.

Developed feelings of lust and infatuation are a problem when you are not in the position to act on it like in the case of the subject being someone else's spouse.

Frequently fantasizing about fucking your best friend's wife is a problem. This is improper lust.

Seeing a woman with a nice figure jogging pass may stimulate you to become aroused but the fleeting moment doesn't become a deep and heartfelt longing. This is not lust.

You defile your married bed when you invite an outsider to join you in that bed not when you squeeze one off in the shower.
 
No disrespect whatsoever, but 2 points here:

1) By your argument of "physically forcing an orgasm", you are committing a sin, because whether you're married or not, when you fuck, you're forcing an orgasm...your not committing a sin if your married

2) If it is a sin to masturbate...then, pray tell, why are you on a porn board like BGOL? I'm just sayin'...we can't throw stones in a glass house, now...
i'm here because i'm human and me being on the board has nothing to do with masturbating being a sin you sir are stupid. :yes:
 
I don t judge anyones lifestyle.....

but homosexuals have to stop telling me how to think and what my morality is.....

My morality and my faith says that homosexuality is wrong.....

that shouldn t be a punishable thought because that is my faith and morality.
 
There is no prohibition regarding masturbation. It is not a sin because there is no law against it. Folks in the past made things up to control lesser informed folks.

Furthermore, being aroused is not the same as being lustful. Being aroused can be a simple reaction to visual or physical stimulation. Lust is much more intense and immersive. You may lust for your girlfriend and this can be confused with love.

No one confuses arousal with love.

Developed feelings of lust and infatuation are a problem when you are not in the position to act on it like in the case of the subject being someone else's spouse.

Frequently fantasizing about fucking your best friend's wife is a problem. This is improper lust.

Seeing a woman with a nice figure jogging pass may stimulate you to become aroused but the fleeting moment doesn't become a deep and heartfelt longing. This is not lust.

You defile your married bed when you invite an outsider to join you in that bed not when you squeeze one off in the shower.
theirs no such thing as proper lust unless it is your spouse, any other type of lust is a sin according to the bible . :lol:what grown man gets a erection from just simply looking at a nice looking jogger passing by? you got a erection because you lusted after the sight of the woman jogging by, that's what caused the erection (LUST) no man just looks at a nice ass for 2 seconds turns his head and has a erection unless he lusted after that women in his heart.,if it caused you to erect then you had a deep and heartfelt longing A.K.A LUST
 
And looking at porn is also a sin according to my beliefs....

I look at porn....so I am sinning....

I can t say that because I look at porn that it shouldn t be sin....

call the shit what it is....
 
theirs no such thing as proper lust unless it is your spouse, any other type of lust is a sin according to the bible . :lol:what grown man gets a erection from just simply looking at a nice looking jogger passing by? you got a erection because you lusted after the sight of the woman jogging by, that's what caused the erection (LUST) no man just looks at a nice ass for 2 seconds turns his head and has a erection unless he lusted after that women in his heart.,if it caused you to erect then you had a deep and heartfelt longing A.K.A LUST

meh...its not that simple.....

there is an element of nature in their also....

and although lust is a sin.....

Homosexuality s entire makeup is a sin........cause it is against nature.

there is zero nature in homosexuality...........
 
theirs no such thing as proper lust unless it is your spouse, any other type of lust is a sin according to the bible . :lol:what grown man gets a erection from just simply looking at a nice looking jogger passing by? you got a erection because you lusted after the sight of the woman jogging by, that's what caused the erection (LUST) no man just looks at a nice ass for 2 seconds turns his head and has a erection unless he lusted after that women in his heart.,if it caused you to erect then you had a deep and heartfelt longing A.K.A LUST

So according to your logic every male child whether he is 3, 5, 9, 12, 15 or whatever is a lustful sinner because he gets an erection?

So according to logic a male must have lust in heart to have an erection.

:eek::confused::eek:

Infants have erections. Are their little hearts filled with lust. Are they sinners too?

You don't have a proper understanding of the term - lust.

I repeat arousal and lust are not the same and are not equal and are not synonyms. There are several degrees between the two terms.

I'm a grown ass man. I have grown children. I can be aroused in 2 seconds by attractive women other than my wife. Yes, it is a blessing.

You need some real world understanding.

You are interesting fellow by being on a site intent of showing nudity and sexual practices while claiming any form of sexual arousal is a sin.

How many of these porn chicks are your wife?

You sir, are a self-confessed, self-indicted sinner above and beyond most based of your flawed understanding of the term - lust.

You have been active practitioner of sin ever since your first boner.

Silliness.
 
So according to your logic every male child whether he is 3, 5, 9, 12, 15 or whatever is a lustful sinner because he gets an erection?

So according to logic a male must have lust in heart to have an erection.

:eek::confused::eek:

Infants have erections. Are their little hearts filled with lust. Are they sinners too?

You don't have a proper understanding of the term - lust.

I repeat arousal and lust are not the same and are not equal and are not synonyms. There are several degrees between the two terms.

I'm a grown ass man. I have grown children. I can be aroused in 2 seconds by attractive women other than my wife. Yes, it is a blessing.

You need some real world understanding.

You are interesting fellow by being on a site intent of showing nudity and sexual practices while claiming any form of sexual arousal is a sin.

How many of these porn chicks are your wife?

You sir, are a self-confessed, self-indicted sinner above and beyond most based of your flawed understanding of the term - lust.

You have been active practitioner of sin ever since your first boner.

Silliness.
yes the lust is what gives you a erection and if just looking at a woman for 2 seconds gives you a erection then that means your not used to getting pussy or being around attractive women (not my fault sounds personal) and no a teenager waking up with a erection letting him know he's in puberty stage is not lust silly, he wasn't visualizing women, he woke up and it happened naturally.

your statements show me your logic level and thought process (very low) me being on a porn site doesn't make it any less of a sin, wrong is wrong and right is right and yes I am a sinner and I'm on a porn board telling you what sin is, how does that help your argument?
 
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:lol::lol::lol:@the BGOL Bible crew debating scriptures on the same front page as hoes getting skeeted on and fucked up the ass..



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Group Won't Verify Claim That Over 20,000 Christians Want ESPN to Suspend Chris Broussard for 'Gay Bashing'

Faithful America refused on Thursday to verify a claim that it had
collected signatures from more than 20,000 Christians petitioning ESPN to suspend sports analyst Chris Broussard for what they feel are "hateful" comments towards NBA player Jason Collins who recently revealed he is gay.

Collins announced in a Sports Illustrated article on Monday that he was a gay man who took his faith in Jesus Christ seriously.

In a later interview on ESPN's "Outside the Lines"show, however, Broussard – who is a practicing Christian – said Collins' position was inconsistent with biblical teachings.

"Personally, I don't believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly, like premarital sex between heterosexuals. If you are living that type of lifestyle, the Bible says you know them by their fruits, it says that's a sin," said Broussard on the show. "If you're openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, whatever it maybe, I believe that's walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ."

Faithful America, which promotes itself as an organization dedicated to reclaiming Christianity from the religious right and putting faith into action for social justice, took issue with Broussard's comments which renowned theologian John Piper had praised as "solid steel."

"Chris Broussard's comments on Monday were really a hateful attack on Jason Collins and a profound misrepresentation of the compassionate teachings of Jesus Christ," said Faithful America's executive director, Michael Sherrard, in an interview with The Christian Post on Thursday.

"This is not how Christians who live in community and love one another as called by the Gospel of Jesus Christ are to behave towards one another," he added.

When asked if he could provide CP with information that could verify that he indeed had the signatures of 20,000+ practicing Christians calling for Broussard's suspension, he said: "We do not provide personal information especially to members of the media."

Sherrard, nevertheless, tried to expound on his opposition to the sports analyst's comments. "For ESPN to elevate Chris Broussard who is, let's remember, a sportscaster and not a pastor in the position of passing judgment on Jason Collins' faith is a profound abuse and exploitation of the church and of Christians and it's unfair to the millions of American Christians who are sick and tired of their faith being framed in the public point of view as being a hateful weapon to wield against gay and lesbian people," he stressed.

When CP asked Sherrard what specifically was hateful about Broussard's comments, he responded: "Well I think the comments speak for themselves."

When asked which biblical scriptures were misrepresented in Broussard's response to Collins paused before responding: "Describing the decision to come out, describing Jason Collins' decision to come out and describing Jason Collins' decision to ground that coming out and that acceptance of himself as being grounded in his Christian faith, to describe that as 'openly living in unrepentant sin' and to say that 'I would not characterize that person as a Christian' – I would say is a profound misrepresentation of Christian Scripture."

Sherrard, who declined to verify whether or not he is a practicing Christian, is based in Washington, D.C. Faithful America was founded in 2004 and claims to have 210,000 members.

According to his Facebook page, he has also worked for Moveon.org which was started in 1998 to oppose the impeachment of U.S. President Bill Clinton. Moveon.org is also a powerful fundraising machine for Democratic Party candidates.
 
When asked which biblical scriptures were misrepresented in Broussard's response to Collins paused before responding: "Describing the decision to come out, describing Jason Collins' decision to come out and describing Jason Collins' decision to ground that coming out and that acceptance of himself as being grounded in his Christian faith, to describe that as 'openly living in unrepentant sin' and to say that 'I would not characterize that person as a Christian' – I would say is a profound misrepresentation of Christian Scripture."

Fucking bible cherrypickers can't even point out how Chris is wrong with his argument. :smh: Bible has clear anti-gay passages.
 
Fucking bible cherrypickers can't even point out how Chris is wrong with his argument. :smh: Bible has clear anti-gay passages.

If you are Christian/Jewish/Islamic then you have no choice but to cherrypick unless you want to be considered a monster by today's standard
 
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