Empty barrel is a racist term ?
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cryptic ass post lol
Never mind, I see what you're asking
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Never mind, I see what you're asking
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Wow...yall kats be like fuck national headlines
You need to go do some more research in the news before we answer your question
To me it just came of as him saying "she's full of hot air" or "her words are hollow" I'm just really trying to figure the "empty barrel" comment as racist. Maybe it's just me but I never heard of the term being racist.
Well shyt, I just learned a shine new shyt ..... I'll spot this dude a silent long arm and the first 2 rounds .....
If you don't know what the congresswoman meant you will never know.
I don't see it as a racist term as Congresswoman Wilson called it, but more of a demeaning term towards those who stand up and "Grand Stand". I think this is the way Gen Kelly used it in his speech about her went referring to a speech she made earlier about dedication of a new FBI building to two fallen agents. Although he lied about the speech she made, everyone's trying to find out how the term, "Empty Barrel" is racist. This Administration has a track record of being demeaning to females in official government capacity, and Gen Kelly's just following the lead of his boss.
Did you listen to the lawrence O'Donnell video in the Kelly should stfu thread ?
If not it explains Kelly and his racism as well as empty barrel
Werd on the streets is its an old racist term from Boston irish catholics to describe a black person.
But how does an entry barrel correlate to black people. It just makes no sense
It would have just been easier to Google it and get your answer.
http://www.newsweek.com/what-does-empty-barrel-mean-and-where-does-it-come-689864
One day after White House Chief of Staff John Kelly insulted a member of Congress be calling her an "empty barrel," the world has been asking one question: What the hell is an "empty barrel," anyway?
Kelly used the term to characterize Representative Frederica Wilson, who has been feuding with President Donald Trump over his phone call to a military widow this week, forcing Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders to attempt an explanation at her daily briefing on Friday, offering only more ambiguity: "As we say in the South: all hat, no cattle."
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Hat, cattle, barrels. What's it all mean?
Many credit Plato for bringing "empty barrel" into the vernacular: "An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers." Some believe the proverb truly has Jamaican origins, while others credit it as Spanish. A book of world proverbs gives 21 variations of the expression.
Shakespeare channeled Plato in Henry V, writing, "I never heard so loud a voice issue from such an empty heart. It's true what they say, the empty vessel makes the greatest sound."
Like many old phrases, there are few clear answers but many variations and sources. On Friday, Wilson suggested that the phrase was racist, and many critics of Kelly have noted a pattern within the Trump administration to demean minority lawmakers.
It does appear Kelly was suggesting the Platonic usage—that Wilson is a loudmouth—given he used the term in an inaccurate reference to Wilson bragging about securing funding for an FBI memorial building. Kelly said Wilson "stood up, and in a long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building."
Kelly repeated at the end of his comments that "even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned."
It's not the first time Kelly has used the phrase. In September, he attributed the quote "empty barrels make the most noise" to his "blessed mother" after Illinois Democrat Representative Luis Gutiérrez called him a "disgrace to the uniform" for supporting the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
Kelly told Fox News he used the phrase to eloquently "call people liars."
http://www.newsweek.com/what-does-empty-barrel-mean-and-where-does-it-come-689864
One day after White House Chief of Staff John Kelly insulted a member of Congress be calling her an "empty barrel," the world has been asking one question: What the hell is an "empty barrel," anyway?
Kelly used the term to characterize Representative Frederica Wilson, who has been feuding with President Donald Trump over his phone call to a military widow this week, forcing Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders to attempt an explanation at her daily briefing on Friday, offering only more ambiguity: "As we say in the South: all hat, no cattle."
Keep up with this story and more by subscribing now
Hat, cattle, barrels. What's it all mean?
Many credit Plato for bringing "empty barrel" into the vernacular: "An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers." Some believe the proverb truly has Jamaican origins, while others credit it as Spanish. A book of world proverbs gives 21 variations of the expression.
Shakespeare channeled Plato in Henry V, writing, "I never heard so loud a voice issue from such an empty heart. It's true what they say, the empty vessel makes the greatest sound."
Like many old phrases, there are few clear answers but many variations and sources. On Friday, Wilson suggested that the phrase was racist, and many critics of Kelly have noted a pattern within the Trump administration to demean minority lawmakers.
It does appear Kelly was suggesting the Platonic usage—that Wilson is a loudmouth—given he used the term in an inaccurate reference to Wilson bragging about securing funding for an FBI memorial building. Kelly said Wilson "stood up, and in a long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building."
Kelly repeated at the end of his comments that "even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned."
It's not the first time Kelly has used the phrase. In September, he attributed the quote "empty barrels make the most noise" to his "blessed mother" after Illinois Democrat Representative Luis Gutiérrez called him a "disgrace to the uniform" for supporting the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
Kelly told Fox News he used the phrase to eloquently "call people liars."
Lol...
Ok so she really is an entry barrel. Let's call out actually racist terms.
Ok so she really is an entry barrel. Let's call out actually racist terms.
John Kelly owes the congresswoman an apology
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/john-kelly-owes-the-congresswoman-an-apology/2017/10/20/c81205e2-b5c1-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html
WHITE HOUSE Chief of Staff John F. Kelly owes Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) an apology. That is the only conclusion that can be drawn after watching a video of the representative’s remarks at the dedication of an FBI building in Miramar, Fla., in 2015.
Mr. Kelly took to the lectern in the White House briefing room Thursday to defend President Trump’s handling of a condolence call to a widow of one of the soldiers killed in Niger and to attack Ms. Wilson as selfish and politically motivated for her criticism. To bolster that characterization, he offered up his remembrance of the dedication of the FBI building in memory of two FBI agents who had been killed in the line of duty. He claimed Ms. Wilson used the occasion to take unseemly credit for securing federal funding for the building. “We were stunned,” he said, “stunned that she had done it. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned.”
But, as a video by the Florida Sun Sentinel of Ms. Wilson’s remarks that day shows, Mr. Kelly got it all wrong. She did not say she got money for the building. She was generous and graceful in sharing credit for how legislation naming the building was fast-tracked. And she spent most of her nine-minute speech praising the FBI agents killed in a gunfight with drug dealers: “Today it is our patriotic duty to lift up Special Agent Benjamin Grogan and Special Agent Jerry Dove from the streets of South Florida and place their names and pictures high, where the world will know that we are proud of their sacrifice, sacrifice for our nation.”
It is unfortunate that the sacrifice of brave people such as these two agents or the four soldiers killed in Niger can get overwhelmed by the petty name-calling of politics. That is a point Mr. Kelly was trying to make Thursday, and that he undercut with his misrepresentation of Ms. Wilson. He needs to set the record straight.
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No, that's his fucked up opinion. She isn't an 'empty barrel.' But at the same time, just because a racist calls you a name doesn't make the name a racist term. What if he just said loudmouth? There are a number of insults he could have said to imply the same thing.
She could have used a number of words to get her point across about that clown, but using 'racist term' just feeds the other side. Listen, politics involve a lot of PR. Best believe folks were searching that term to see if it was racist. When all they find is what Newsweek and others have dug up, it's not a good look. Takes away from that the clown was wrong to begin with.
Now folks can live in their bubble worlds and try to justify her saying it was racist just because a racist said it, but most people won't see it like that. Period. Control PR and win the game.
She had a perfect chance to destroy this guy, but folks have to search for 'empty barrel' instead.
Democrats need better strategists. Can't keep blowing opportunities than cosigning them.
you are not that naieveNo, that's his fucked up opinion. She isn't an 'empty barrel.' But at the same time, just because a racist calls you a name doesn't make the name a racist term. What if he just said loudmouth? There are a number of insults he could have said to imply the same thing.
She could have used a number of words to get her point across about that clown, but using 'racist term' just feeds the other side. Listen, politics involve a lot of PR. Best believe folks were searching that term to see if it was racist. When all they find is what Newsweek and others have dug up, it's not a good look. Takes away from that the clown was wrong to begin with.
Now folks can live in their bubble worlds and try to justify her saying it was racist just because a racist said it, but most people won't see it like that. Period. Control PR and win the game.
She had a perfect chance to destroy this guy, but folks have to search for 'empty barrel' instead.
real simple
find one single instance that Trump or Kelly called the congresswoman or widow by their Names
after multiple public statements - they would have had to say their names at least once right?
now consider - 2 days ago Mika Brzezinski dropped Senator Cassidy from the show as he was talking mid sentence after he deliberately mispronounced her first name...
its a tactic used to dehumanize or belittle - deliberate mispronouncing of a name or insisting on using 3rd person or pronoun
also consider - how far Kelly went out of his way to lie in an attempt to smear both ladies...
how many times has it been "that woman" "that congresswoman" over the last few days...
"Its a disgrace that a woman... that... that... that congresswoman listened in on the President's call"
Keep in mind Kelly and at least 4 other people were also listening in on the call
Wait. So not calling folks by their names is racist?
Bruh, cats in the joint will do that shit. Let's cut the shit. I know what not calling someone by their name means. I know what it means to call a person their first name instead of using a title. I know what it means to shorten a name. But how is it a racist term? Because it comes from a racist? That just won't cut it. Period.
If he had just said 'dumb ass or crazy' would those now be a racist term? There are plenty of terms used to belittle, now they will be labeled racist? Come on man.
He was wrong, but come on man.
Thank you ! I'd swear she was a double agent the way that she made the narrative change to this bullshit.Wait. So not calling folks by their names is racist?
But how is it a racist term? Because it comes from a racist? That just won't cut it. Period.
If he had just said 'dumb ass or crazy' would those now be a racist term? There are plenty of terms used to belittle, now they will be labeled racist? Come on man.
He was wrong, but come on man.
I'd also like to add that the term "urban" is also racist. Urban is now used to refer to areas with black people. It pisses me off just as much as when an idiot uses the word "conversate".
Dude don't get me started on "conversate" BM said that to me one time and I gave her the look of death. Add "I lied" to the dumbass list
I can't say definitively that it is or it isn't racist. I'm just saying that O'Donnell seems pretty convinced that the term has been applied as a racial epithet in the same place that both he and Kelly grew up. In his mind, Kelly used it either deliberately or ignorantly, but he seems convinced that Kelly should have known better.
At any rate, now that Kelly has been shown to be inaccurate in his description of Wilson's speech from jump street, the fact remains that the use of the term, racial or not, was also inaccurate. People need to stay on message: Kelly lied about Rep. Wilson's words and actions. Period.
It doesn't correlate to black people but it does mean that a person is dumb. An Empty Barrel making the most noise is saying that a person without brains talks the loudest
It's not racist, it's degrading.
Ok, I'm cool with him calling her that, this is politics after all. She should have turned around and called him a bleeding lier ! Which it's turns out he is , and she had proof. But because was and (a lot of people) were quick to call anything racist, she changed the narrative and now the story is not where it should be.
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