Eli Manning, Giants now down to just one legit foe for NFC East crown after Eagles deal Sam Bradford

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Eli Manning, Giants now down to just one legit foe for NFC East crown after Eagles deal Sam Bradford

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Eli Manning is the class of the NFC East QB crop and should have clear path to division title.
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GARY MYERS

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Sunday, September 4, 2016, 2:20 AM

Can this possibly get any easier for the Giants and Eli Manning?

Perhaps only if Kirk Cousins is injured and Hall of Famer Sonny Jurgensen comes out of retirement to play quarterback for Washington. He recently celebrated his 82nd birthday — but can still spin it.

The Cowboys lost Tony Romo for about two months, and on Saturday, eight days before the start of the season, the Eagles, now in a complete rebuild, traded starting quarterback Sam Bradford to the desperate Vikings, who are still in shock after losing Teddy Bridgewater for the season after a devastating non-contact knee injury in practice last week.

So, the season opens next week with the Giants in Dallas facing rookie fourth-round pick Dak Prescott, a summertime superstar against vanilla defenses. Mark Sanchez, after losing out in Denver to QBs who have never thrown a regular season pass — Trevor Siemian, who played one snap as a rookie (a kneel down), and rookie Paxton Lynch — was cut Saturday by the Super Bowl champs and expected to sign with the Cowboys as a backup.

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The Eagles will begin at home against Cleveland with rookie Carson Wentz likely to start if he’s physically ready after cracking two ribs in the preseason opener. If not, the Eagles will go with journeyman Chase Daniel, who has thrown just 77 passes and started just two games in his seven years in the NFL but knows coach Doug Pederson’s offense after three years together in Kansas City.

The NFC East starting quarterbacks: Manning, Cousins and two rookies.

This officially makes the NFC East a two-team race: Giants vs. Washington, Manning vs. Cousins.

Manning had a career-high 35 TDs last season with 14 INTs and 4,432 yards. Cousins had a breakthrough in his fourth year with 29 TDs, 11 INTs and 4,166 yards and is making nearly $20 million in 2016 playing for the franchise tag.

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Kirk Cousins leads Washington to a division crown in 2015, but he's no Eli Manning.
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This is a quarterback league, and with the Giants spending $200 million, with $100 million in guaranteed money, to sign free agents Olivier Vernon, Snacks Harrison and Janoris Jenkins to fix their historically bad defense of 2015, it still comes down to Manning, a two-time Super Bowl MVP, or Cousins, who won the NFC East last year at just 9-7 and then lost at home in the wild-card round to the Packers.

Edge: Manning.

Forget about the nearly invisible numbers put up by Manning and the first-team offense in the two preseason games that rookie coach Ben McAdoo allowed them to play — the practice games mean little or nothing — because Manning is coming off an excellent season and his weapons improved with the return of Victor Cruz and the addition of second-round pick Sterling Shepard.

After four straight years out of the playoffs, and the last three with losing records, which cost Tom Coughlin his job, the Giants should make it back to the postseason.

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In fact, no excuses.

Not in a division with two rookie QBs and Cousins, who may turn out to be a one-year wonder.

The first target game on the schedule: Sept. 25 at home against Washington. The rematch is on the road in the final game on New Year’s Day.

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Sam Bradford walks away from the Eagles and the lowly NFC East after trade to Vikings.
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Meanwhile, if the Eagles knew on March 1 when they signed Bradford to a two-year $35 million deal with $22 million guaranteed — Philly already paid out his $11 million signing bonus — that they would be able to move up to the No. 2 spot to get Wentz on April 20, they never would have signed the very mediocre Bradford. They would have settled for overpaying Daniel to a three-year $21 million contract with $12 million guaranteed on March 9 to babysit Wentz, which is what he will do now.

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The Eagles made a smart trade Saturday, recouping a first-round pick in 2017 and a conditional fourth-round pick in 2018 from the Vikings after giving up so much to get Wentz. They still owe the Browns their first-round pick next year and their second-round pick in 2018 after swapping No. 1s this year and also giving up their third- and fourth-round picks and getting back a No. 6 next year. Financially, they get out from the remaining $11 million in guaranteed money owed to Bradford.

Minnesota had legitimate Super Bowl aspirations until Bridgewater tore his ACL, dislocated his knee and did other serious damage. It will take a lot for him to be ready for the start of the 2017 season. Bradford becomes the starter over Shaun Hill and should benefit from working with offensive coordinator Norv Turner, the best quarterback teacher in the NFL. He gives the Vikings more hope than Hill, which is not saying a whole lot.

The Vikings paid too much for Bradford, but this shows they are not giving up. It also shows how little use the Eagles had for Bradford. Who trades their starting QB one week before the opener?

Philadelphia is a team in transition and Bradford knew he was just holding space until Wentz was ready, much like new Eagles coach Doug Pederson did in 1999 when Andy Reid started him until rookie Donovan McNabb was ready. This just accelerates the learning process for Wentz, who recently began throwing again. He only had 24 attempts in the one preseason game he played, so he will test the patience of the impatient Eagles fans.

If Wentz is good to go next Sunday, it will be against the Browns, who traded away the opportunity to take Wentz with the second pick, allowing the Eagles to get their quarterback of the present and future.

Bradford sat out part of the Eagles offseason program in protest, trying to force a trade after the Eagles made the deal to get Wentz. He was the overall No. 1 pick in the 2010 draft by the Rams but his career in St. Louis was ruined by back-to-back years when he tore his ACL. He has a 25-37-1 career record. He was 7-7 in his one season with the Eagles and beat the Giants twice. He will face them when the Giants play the Vikings in their new indoor stadium in downtown Minneapolis on Oct. 3.

The Giants have a great chance to get back in the playoffs and win the NFC East this season. They have Manning.
 
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ShEli...really. a dude whose defense got him 2 rings...:hmm:
You mean the defense that was on the sideline while Elisha brought us back from the jaws of defeat... Twice... The same guy who outplayed Aaron Rogers... Brett Favre... Tom Brady... And has the jewelry to prove it... The same guy whose never missed a start... Period.

Yall gonna stop frontin on my man, Hall of Fame Eli... He's put in work...and he's only getting better... The numbers prove it.
 
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ShEli...really. a dude whose defense got him 2 rings...:hmm:


Do cats completely ignore the 'ship in 2011? That whole season Eli carried the Giants. If I wasn't so lazy in replying to this comment, I'd drop stats to completely shut this statement down.


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Eli 2011 regular season
Yds: 4933 (308.3 yds/gm)
TDs: 29
Ints: 16
4th Qtr comebacks: 7
Game winning drives: 8

2011 playoffs
Yds: 1219 (304.8 yds/gm)
Tds: 9
Ints: 1
4th Qtr comebacks: 2
Game winning drives:2

"The New York Giants won Super Bowl XLVI despite having a defense that finished the2011 season ranked No. 27 in the NFL."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1141269-power-ranking-all-32-nfl-defenses
 
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Back to the article, Giants have a legit chance to win given the other teams circumstances. That o-line is still shaky but it's pretty much the same as last year.

I still see the skins as a threat. Hell, even the 'boys. I'm not sold on Wentz, but Philly' s defense could make it interesting.
 
I just can't get how you gonna do anything with no run game or no offensive line. The only reason I count the Eagles out is because I don't think they even prepped Wentz to start. They handled him terribly. He should've been prepped in the preseason and I think he might've got hurt but even in the first game he wasn't even starting.

Eagles can talk that shit in hindsight but when the Vikings offered up something they couldn't refuse they jumped on it. They never planned on "rebuilding".

Anyone's guess is as good as mine who wins but it I don' see anyone having a clear shot at all. I personally feel like the NY media is setting up a potential shit storm trying to make the Giants favorites now so that if they struggle they can go in on them.
 
It should be a two team race, but things never quite play out how you expect them. You can't automatically discount Dallas and that strong run game.

That being said...The Giants and Skins kind of remind me of each other. Both are quick prolific passing offenses. Neither can run the ball consistently. Giants Oline looks a little more suspect though.

On defense they both rely on outside rushers and have upgraded thier secondary. Both have suspect LB corps. Neither could stop the run last year, but it looks like NY adressed thier run stopping woes by beefing up the Dline, and the Skins hope to have adressed it with upgrades at LB.

I think it will come down to the Giant's ability to gel on defense....and team depth. I think the Skins are the deeper team, and if Cousins isn't a fraud they should win the division again.
 
Giants were 4th in the league in sacks. :lol:

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Eli 2011 regular season
Yds: 4933 (308.3 yds/gm)
TDs: 29
Ints: 16
4th Qtr comebacks: 7
Game winning drives: 8

2011 playoffs
Yds: 1219 (304.8 yds/gm)
Tds: 9
Ints: 1
4th Qtr comebacks: 2
Game winning drives:2

"The New York Giants won Super Bowl XLVI despite having a defense that finished the2011 season ranked No. 27 in the NFL."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1141269-power-ranking-all-32-nfl-defenses
 
It should be a two team race, but things never quite play out how you expect them. You can't automatically discount Dallas and that strong run game.

That being said...The Giants and Skins kind of remind me of each other. Both are quick prolific passing offenses. Neither can run the ball consistently. Giants Oline looks a little more suspect though.

On defense they both rely on outside rushers and have upgraded thier secondary. Both have suspect LB corps. Neither could stop the run last year, but it looks like NY adressed thier run stopping woes by beefing up the Dline, and the Skins hope to have adressed it with upgrades at LB.

I think it will come down to the Giant's ability to gel on defense....and team depth. I think the Skins are the deeper team, and if Cousins isn't a fraud they should win the division again.


Agreed. :cheers:
 
Yeah but you can't come back in a game if you down two or 3 tds.....the defense kept y'all in games. 40 plus sacks..... That defense was making plays. Maybe not shutting no one outburst made plays.
 
It should be a two team race, but things never quite play out how you expect them. You can't automatically discount Dallas and that strong run game.

That being said...The Giants and Skins kind of remind me of each other. Both are quick prolific passing offenses. Neither can run the ball consistently. Giants Oline looks a little more suspect though.

On defense they both rely on outside rushers and have upgraded thier secondary. Both have suspect LB corps. Neither could stop the run last year, but it looks like NY adressed thier run stopping woes by beefing up the Dline, and the Skins hope to have adressed it with upgrades at LB.

I think it will come down to the Giant's ability to gel on defense....and team depth. I think the Skins are the deeper team, and if Cousins isn't a fraud they should win the division again.

When did the skins get this? lmao
 
Yeah but you can't come back in a game if you down two or 3 tds.....the defense kept y'all in games. 40 plus sacks..... That defense was making plays. Maybe not shutting no one outburst made plays.


The defense allowed 400 points that year. The defense wasn't stopping anybody. Perry fewell bend but don't break defense was basically prevent defense.

The only time the defense woke up was in the playoffs.
 
The defense allowed 400 points that year. The defense wasn't stopping anybody. Perry fewell bend but don't break defense was basically prevent defense.

The only time the defense woke up was in the playoffs.[/QUOTE

Naw I understand that that's why I brought up they were 4th in the league in sacks. You can't sugar coat that. You can't generate turnovers without pressure.
 
Naw I understand that that's why I brought up they were 4th in the league in sacks. You can't sugar coat that. You can't generate turnovers without pressure.

But sacks only tell a portion of it. Yes, they got after the QB but teams were still averaging 25 pts per game against this defense. You can't win with that defense. Especially since the Giants offense was only averaging 24.6.

Basically, the defense negated the offense' gains. Defense didn't win Eli shit that season. Everything felt like a shootout that season.
 
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But sacks only tell a portion of it. Yes, they got after the QB but teams were still averaging 25 pts per game against this defense. You can't win with that defense. Especially since the Giants offense was only averaging 24.6.

Basically, the defense negated the offense' gains. Defense didn't win Eli shit that season. Everything felt like a shootout that season.

4th in sacks, 8th in turnovers and 9th in interceptions....... As bad as the defense may have been it was opportunistic.

Never mind how good the defense was in the playoffs. It was one of Eli's better years and not his down years but let's not pretend like the deans had nothing to do with that run. They were far from the worst in the league.
 
Eli will go down as the most underrated and disrespected quarterback to make the HOF. He puts up the numbers and isn't high on the all-time passing list or touchdown list by accident. Yes he has had multiple years where he had high interception numbers but Eli has always been one to not be scared to make the throw or let a situation deter him from taking chances. Plus the numbers don't show how many of those were the result of tip drills & receivers who ran the wrong route or gave up on the play. Also keep in mind he's been under the Kevin Gilbride system that allows for receivers to audible at the line making it much easier for the qb & receiver to not be on the same page. He has had no where near the high interception numbers in these last 2 seasons in the McAdoo system. Hell his passing numbers significantly jumped & that's with OBJ as the only consistent offensive playmaker on the field.
 
4th in sacks, 8th in turnovers and 9th in interceptions....... As bad as the defense may have been it was opportunistic.

Never mind how good the defense was in the playoffs. It was one of Eli's better years and not his down years but let's not pretend like the deans had nothing to do with that run. They were far from the worst in the league.

I'm not disagreeing with you there. They were opportunistic. But with those stats you expect dominance. And they were anything but dominant (hell even average) in the regular season. The defense was frustratingly bad. Couldn't get off the field giving up 377 total yards per game.

All I'm saying is that Eli put the team on his back that year. And The main reason Eli had all those comeback wins was due to a bad defense.
 
I'm not disagreeing with you there. They were opportunistic. But with those stats you expect dominance. And they were anything but dominant (hell even average) in the regular season. The defense was frustratingly bad. Couldn't get off the field giving up 377 total yards per game.

All I'm saying is that Eli put the team on his back that year. And The main reason Eli had all those comeback wins was due to a bad defense.

I get what you saying but let's say the defense was terrible and couldn't get any stops......they could at least get a sack or interception to even allow Eli to have a come back. You can't come back in a game if your defense not getting some turnovers.

That was a strange year. Its rare you see a team sack the quarterback and get turnovers and give up 24. That means they must've got beat deep at times.
 
Eli will go down as the most underrated and disrespected quarterback to make the HOF. He puts up the numbers and isn't high on the all-time passing list or touchdown list by accident. Yes he has had multiple years where he had high interception numbers but Eli has always been one to not be scared to make the throw or let a situation deter him from taking chances. Plus the numbers don't show how many of those were the result of tip drills & receivers who ran the wrong route or gave up on the play. Also keep in mind he's been under the Kevin Gilbride system that allows for receivers to audible at the line making it much easier for the qb & receiver to not be on the same page. He has had no where near the high interception numbers in these last 2 seasons in the McAdoo system. Hell his passing numbers significantly jumped & that's with OBJ as the only consistent offensive playmaker on the field.
He gets about as much praise as he deserves. Makes you wonder what type of career he would've had if he went to San Diego and Phillip Rivers went to NY.
 
He gets about as much praise as he deserves. Makes you wonder what type of career he would've had if he went to San Diego and Phillip Rivers went to NY.
Valid argument. I honestly think Rivers would have been great in NY but his fiery attitude probably wouldn't mesh with the NY media market. I don't know if he's capable of handling their scrutiny. Football wise he would've been a beast too.

As for Eli in San Diego, he probably would've been much more under the radar but still put up good numbers. He's shown what he can do with decent to solid receivers so no worries there and the west coast offense the Chargers run would've done well for Eli plus he would've had a better running game to compliment him.
 
Valid argument. I honestly think Rivers would have been great in NY but his fiery attitude probably wouldn't mesh with the NY media market. I don't know if he's capable of handling their scrutiny. Football wise he would've been a beast too.

Yeah I mean to be honest I think he would've been a better pro in NY than Eli is.....but for some reason I don't think he gets them titles though. Hard to explain why lol.
 
Yeah I mean to be honest I think he would've been a better pro in NY than Eli is.....but for some reason I don't think he gets them titles though. Hard to explain why lol.
Lack of consistent defense to hold down their end of the field. Chargers offense was never in question but their defense was suspect at times
 
I won't get too cocky...we was supposed to have the division sewn up last year too smh...on another note I'm actually thinking of not watching any NFL games this season after seeing that white soccer chic support kaep...by herself she already reps half of the NFL players who have publically supported him...I just can't get over that
 
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