Dr. Umar Johnson Vs. the State of PA Board of Psychology

Not infallible? He's a full on con man.
Again, they say that about Boyce who is a full blown Doctor of Finance......lmbao.

But question to all the Umar detractors because what he is teaching/preaching is clearly specialized.

If Umar is a ‘fraud’ who are his detractors promoting to replace him?

Rather than use all that energy to create YouTube and Facebook accounts dedicated to tear him down, why not promote ‘legitimate’ dudes and give them the shot me that Umar is taking?

Killing a man that you’re convinced is a fraud eventually makes you look bad.

Example: Dr. Tommy Curry. Here’s a doctor that was truly under siege.

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Again, they say that about Boyce who is a full blown Doctor of Finance......lmbao.

But question to all the Umar detractors because what he is teaching/preaching is clearly specialized.

If Umar is a ‘fraud’ who are his detractors promoting to replace him?

Rather than use all that energy to create YouTube and Facebook accounts dedicated to tear him down, why not promote ‘legitimate’ dudes and give them the shot me that Umar is taking?

Killing a man that you’re convinced is a fraud eventually makes you look bad.

Example: Dr. Tommy Curry. Here’s a doctor that was truly under siege.

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Lol wow. We've come to this point.


Ever since this fraud bum came out I've been saying that there are ALREADY African centered schools in damn near every city with a large enough Black population and even some in places that dont.

No one's trying to "take his place" because he never had a place to take. How can you take the place of a loudmouth who's only accomplishments are getting on YouTube and radio and claiming you want money to build a boarding school for poor Black kids?

He was up there that the breakfast club talking sideways to Diddy and Oprah to help him but his him school , when Diddy was already up there months before announcing he opened a charter school in Harlem WITH the director of that school, Steve Perry . They didn't mention Umar, but he felt the need to chastise Diddy when he came on.


Now if Diddy, who is worth over a half a million on his own, didn't feel the need to go try and buy an empty college in the middle of no where and started in the place where he grew up - why the fuck does this broke bum feel the need to start with a NATIONAL program that he can't even donate even 10% of his own money to? Why in all this time is there not even a trace of a staff, curriculum, business plan, nothing? How is he supposed to be educatingBlack boys on financial literacy when he can't even pay his own bills?

Atlanta has tons of charter schools , so does Baltimore and philly , where's he's from. I know a guy personally who runs one in Dallas.

No one is taking his place. He doesn't even have a place. He may not even have a place to lay his own bum head
 
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Lol wow.
No one's trying to "take his place" because he never had a place to take. How can you take the place of a loudmouth who's only accomplishments are getting on YouTube and radio and claiming you want money to build a boarding school for poor Black kids?

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Again, they say that about Boyce who is a full blown Doctor of Finance......lmbao.

But question to all the Umar detractors because what he is teaching/preaching is clearly specialized.

If Umar is a ‘fraud’ who are his detractors promoting to replace him?

Rather than use all that energy to create YouTube and Facebook accounts dedicated to tear him down, why not promote ‘legitimate’ dudes and give them the shot me that Umar is taking?

Killing a man that you’re convinced is a fraud eventually makes you look bad.

Example: Dr. Tommy Curry. Here’s a doctor that was truly under siege.

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And btw I don't really give a shit about Boyce Watkins either, especially since he kinda abandoned his first focus, which was financial literacy. I do agree that HE should STFU about Umar , only because he's never been straight up about his. Dislike for the man. He should've been honest about it from jump, or just keep distance from the guy. Boyce is pretty transparent about his qualifications and everyone has actually known him when he was working for he University system so we KNOW he's not lying about that part. It's not even the degree that makes Umar a fraud- even though that is how he introduced himself. Don't you find it funny that he came out with the whole suit imagery and has slowly declined to shitty haircuts, raggedy gear, and hood talk? His whole persona at first was the suited anbooted big guy, related to Frederick Douglass. Now we find out hes related to a COUSIN of frederick Douglass. GENERATIONS down the line. At what point do you guys not see it?
 
Lol wow. We've come to this point.


Ever since this fraud bum came out I've been saying that there are ALREADY African centered schools in damn near every city with a large enough Black population and even some in places that dont.

No one's trying to "take his place" because he never had a place to take. How can you take the place of a loudmouth who's only accomplishments are getting on YouTube and radio and claiming you want money to build a boarding school for poor Black kids?

He was up there that the breakfast club talking sideways to Diddy and Oprah to help him but his him school , when Diddy was already up there months before announcing he opened a charter school in Harlem WITH the director of that school, Steve Perry . They didn't mention Umar, but he felt the need to chastise Diddy when he came on.


Now if Diddy, who is worth over a half a million on his own, didn't feel the need to go try and buy an empty college in the middle of no where and started in the place where he grew up - why the fuck does this broke bum feel the need to start with a NATIONAL program that he can't even donate even 10% of his own money to? Why in all this time is there not even a trace of a staff, curriculum, business plan, nothing? How is he supposed to be educatingBlack boys on financial literacy when he can't even pay his own bills?

Atlanta has tons of charter schools , so does Baltimore and philly , where's he's from. I know a guy personally who runs one in Dallas.

No one is taking his place. He doesn't even have a place. He may not even have a place to lay his own bum head

I think the difference is those schools are state chartered schools that are subject to the state's whims and regulations. What he is supposedly trying to start is a private school not subject to tbe curricular rules set by the state.
 
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Thanks for the heads up. That was a damn good analysis


Naw, they lit Boyce’s ass up in the comments section. People pointed out some of Boyce’s shady dealings with Yvette Carnell and Yarima Kurama, who both called Boyce out for not paying them...also, they pointed out in the comments section that Boyce’s daughter has a white boyfriend, which may be part of Boyce’s beef with Umar and that the good Dr Watkins got his car repossessed fairly recently...:smh::smh:

They started calling him Moist Twatkins in the comments section for keeping this Umar shit going after he was supposedly “done” with Umar a year ago in his own words..

:lol::lol: @ “Moist Twatkins” sounding like one of those Tariq puppets.
 
I think the difference is those schools are state chartered schools that are subject to the state's rumes abd regulations. What he is supposedly trying to start is a private school not subject to tbe curricular rules set by the state.
this is an example of how clueless some.ofnyou are. ANY program that inteends to take control of childrens lives is subject to stage rules and regulations. Hos curriculum would have to be approved by the state. Even home schooling parents have to abide by that. That's how when they graduate , colleges know their diploma is accredited
 
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this is an example of how clueless some.ofnyou are. ANY program that inteends to take control of childrens lives is subject to stage rules and regulations. Hos curriculum would have to be approved by the state. Even home schooling parents have to abide by that. That's how when hey graduate , colleges know their diploma is accredited
Bruh I am far from clueless. The state sets minimum rules regulation but they do not control the curriculum of private schools.
 
You goddamn right...that there circumstances should motivate them to do better and there are plenty of examples of kids who do but it's just not enough. We have to change the mindset of the community.
We have to get get back to not accepting certain things.
I agree and I've racked my brain trying to think how we can make this happen.
 
Naw, they lit Boyce’s ass up in the comments section. People pointed out some of Boyce’s shady dealings with Yvette Carnell and Yarima Kurama, who both called Boyce out for not paying them...also, they pointed out in the comments section that Boyce’s daughter has a white boyfriend, which may be part of Boyce’s beef with Umar and that the good Dr Watkins got his car repossessed fairly recently...:smh::smh:

They started calling him Moist Twatkins in the comments section for keeping this Umar shit going after he was supposedly “done” with Umar a year ago in his own words..

:lol::lol: @ “Moist Twatkins” sounding like one of those Tariq puppets.
damn...........

yeah the white boyfriend may explain everything
 
Bruh I am far from clueless. The state sets minimum rules regulation but they do not control the curriculum of private schools.
You HAVE to be clueless to even be entertaining this stupid shit for this long.

https://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Private-School


He's dOne NONE of the things on this list for someone building a school off of his own money, much less what's required for a fund raiser. First of all there is a curriculum required for your school to be acredited. Let's go with the premise that he's gonna go to a statet that goes by a private agency rather than the state. Some do and some don't. You're assuming he is gonna be in a state that doesn't when he doesn't even know which damn state he's gonna be in

It's been at least THREE YEARS and no parts of a business plan nor curriculum (fuck for the state, how bout for potential donors os students?)

And again, the most bvious part from day one :

HOW DO YOU EXPEXT KIDS WHO CANT EVEN AFFORD PUBLIC SCHOOL TO PAY FOR A BOARDING SCHOOL THAT THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL TO?

That's the saddest part. He's poverty pimping. Telling people with very little hope and even less forsight "I'm building a school for your kids to come to. I want you to send them to me. Send me.the money to build it. Then figure out how to get the money for them boarding, food, books, upkeep, faculty salaries, medical, supplies, all that.


God damn, there are some stupid people out here.
 
Naw, they lit Boyce’s ass up in the comments section. People pointed out some of Boyce’s shady dealings with Yvette Carnell and Yarima Kurama, who both called Boyce out for not paying them...also, they pointed out in the comments section that Boyce’s daughter has a white boyfriend, which may be part of Boyce’s beef with Umar and that the good Dr Watkins got his car repossessed fairly recently...:smh::smh:

They started calling him Moist Twatkins in the comments section for keeping this Umar shit going after he was supposedly “done” with Umar a year ago in his own words..

:lol::lol: @ “Moist Twatkins” sounding like one of those Tariq puppets.
My man, he paid Yvette by her OWN admission. And he can’t control who his daughter dates.........,Farrakhan got s WHITE daughter in law. Is he a fraud now? Lmbao!

I’m betting that the daughter that’s swirling isn’t his biological one. But damn, who’s got that type of intel on Boyce....how and why?

He should use those skills to produce George Zimmerman’s movements you know.

And so what if he got his car impounded? That’s funny? This brother quit his job as a professor to go out on his own for his people and is going through the struggle in public.

Even if he veered off course a few times with the silly Dame Dash ‘boss’ talk, he needs to be supported by the community.
 
You HAVE to be clueless to even be entertaining this stupid shit for this long.

https://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Private-School


He's dOne NONE of the things on this list for someone building a school off of his own money, much less what's required for a fund raiser. First of all there is a curriculum required for your school to be acredited. Let's go with the premise that he's gonna go to a statet that goes by a private agency rather than the state. Some do and some don't. You're assuming he is gonna be in a state that doesn't when he doesn't even know which damn state he's gonna be in

It's been at least THREE YEARS and no parts of a business plan nor curriculum (fuck for the state, how bout for potential donors os students?)

And again, the most bvious part from day one :

HOW DO YOU EXPEXT KIDS WHO CANT EVEN AFFORD PUBLIC SCHOOL TO PAY FOR A BOARDING SCHOOL THAT THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL TO?

That's the saddest part. He's poverty pimping. Telling people with very little hope and even less forsight "I'm building a school for your kids to come to. I want you to send them to me. Send me.the money to build it. Then figure out how to get the money for them boarding, food, books, upkeep, faculty salaries, medical, supplies, all that.


God damn, there are some stupid people out here.
I understand you have a hate for Umar and will tranfer that hate to anyone who supports him or seems to support him.
I simple told you the difference between the examples you gave and what he said he is supposedly trying to do. So before being such a smart clueless dumbass. Maybe you should do some research. Such what charters schools are.
They are state chartered schools that are a hybrid between a private school and public school.
That is why they have some freedom in their curriculum but are still regulated by the state and must admit anyone. Private schools do not have to admit anyone and their curriculum is not dicstated by the state.
 
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I think the difference is those schools are state chartered schools that are subject to the state's whims and regulations. What he is supposedly trying to start is a private school not subject to tbe curricular rules set by the state.

Bruh I am far from clueless. The state sets minimum rules regulation but they do not control the curriculum of private schools.

They control enough to insure the school is certified and that children are competent just like for home schooled kids...
 
I think the difference is those schools are state chartered schools that are subject to the state's whims and regulations. What he is supposedly trying to start is a private school not subject to tbe curricular rules set by the state.
You are absolutely correct. Save your energy though, some brothers are so blinded with raging hate the truth will make no difference.

It's funny how none of this scathing venom is ever directed at white folks who do far worse. Where are all the hateful post about Betsy DeVos?
 
Like I said, it starts at home first. Once a kid gets that mentality that education doesn't matter, reversing that is straight hell. They touched on this in the wire. That school where the kids were straight wildin out everyday........... thats real life for a lot of the inner city schools. These teachers making 30k a year, after a while its like fuck this.
I live in Baltimore homie. They done fired some many teachers here and shut down so many schools. Every single year they take huge chunks of money out the school budget but always have money to make the white sides of the city look better. Schools filled with a bunch of cacs who got dumb ass degrees in hobby fields and need to money to pay that student loan off because ain't nobody hiring dancing majors anywhere. So you got people who aren't even invested in teaching just showing up for a check up until the loan is paid down and they jump into a different field.
Our elected officials are TRASH!!!They are a big part of the cause of this mess.
 
I think the difference is those schools are state chartered schools that are subject to the state's whims and regulations. What he is supposedly trying to start is a private school not subject to tbe curricular rules set by the state.
I don't know why people don't understand that. He can't take state funds and try to put in place an African centered curriculum. Majority of niggaz get caught up in these charter schools with African esthetics but nothing about the curriculum is African centered. Bunch of kids wearing dashikis learning the same shit kids in non charter schools are.
 
I understand you have a hate for Umar and will tranfer that hate to anyone who supports him or seems to support him.
I simple told you the difference between the examples you gave and what he said he is supposedly trying to do. So before being such a smart clueless dumbass. Maybe you should do some research. Such what charters schools are.
They are state chartered schools that are a hybrid between a private school and public school.
That is why they have some freedom in their curriculum but are still regulated by the state and must admit anyone. Private schools do not have to admit anyone and their curriculum is not dicstated by the state.


I appreciate you telling me about all that you know about all the types of possible school models and you sound very knowledgeable on this, so instead of debating you, I'll let you teach me.

So here's a question :
WHICH model, out of the many types is Umar planning for his school to be? I'm sure you know since you're so invested.
 
I understand you have a hate for Umar and will tranfer that hate to anyone who supports him or seems to support him.
I simple told you the difference between the examples you gave and what he said he is supposedly trying to do. So before being such a smart clueless dumbass. Maybe you should do some research. Such what charters schools are.
They are state chartered schools that are a hybrid between a private school and public school.
That is why they have some freedom in their curriculum but are still regulated by the state and must admit anyone. Private schools do not have to admit anyone and their curriculum is not dicstated by the state.
Hate is an understatement.
 
My man, he paid Yvette by her OWN admission. And he can’t control who his daughter dates.........,Farrakhan got s WHITE daughter in law. Is he a fraud now? Lmbao!

I’m betting that the daughter that’s swirling isn’t his biological one. But damn, who’s got that type of intel on Boyce....how and why?

He should use those skills to produce George Zimmerman’s movements you know.

And so what if he got his car impounded? That’s funny? This brother quit his job as a professor to go out on his own for his people and is going through the struggle in public.

Even if he veered off course a few times with the silly Dame Dash ‘boss’ talk, he needs to be supported by the community.

Yvette has a show where she clearly states that she was not paid a living wage and you totally skipped over Yarima Kurama who did a show with receipts that not only did Boyce not keep up his financial obligation, but threatened to sue him.

So what if he got his car impounded? A PHD in finance who tells everyone to start their own business and leave the ‘corporate plantation’ couldn’t pay his car note? If you want to be a Boyce sycophant, go ahead buddy, but him trying to play holier than thou vs. Umar, we ain’t buying that shit when he got skeletons in his closet too. He shoulda just said what Tariq said and played it neutral instead of dedicating 3 hrs of content to a person criticizing line by line an IG post under the veil of ‘trying to help’.

Boyce is ok, but he’s still a fat simp at his core who got mad because Umar wouldn’t fuck with him for awhile, now he has an opportunity to jump on the brother and he’s taking it. Nigga should just stick to bitcoin and the black business school hustle, which we let him slide for charging $50 for flash cards that can be had on amazon for $15
 
Yvette has a show where she clearly states that she was not paid a living wage and you totally skipped over Yarima Kurama who did a show with receipts that not only did Boyce not keep up his financial obligation, but threatened to sue him.

So what if he got his car impounded? A PHD in finance who tells everyone to start their own business and leave the ‘corporate plantation’ couldn’t pay his car note? If you want to be a Boyce sycophant, go ahead buddy, but him trying to play holier than thou vs. Umar, we ain’t buying that shit when he got skeletons in his closet too. He shoulda just said what Tariq said and played it neutral instead of dedicating 3 hrs of content to a person criticizing line by line an IG post under the veil of ‘trying to help’.

Boyce is ok, but he’s still a fat simp at his core who got mad because Umar wouldn’t fuck with him for awhile, now he has an opportunity to jump on the brother and he’s taking it. Nigga should just stick to bitcoin and the black business school hustle, which we let him slide for charging $50 for flash cards that can be had on amazon for $15
Damn!!!
 


Man Boyce needs his ass whooped if the shit she is saying is true. And this was his girl!!! Wow!!!
No wonder these niggas hate umar so much
 
Again, they say that about Boyce who is a full blown Doctor of Finance......lmbao.

But question to all the Umar detractors because what he is teaching/preaching is clearly specialized.

If Umar is a ‘fraud’ who are his detractors promoting to replace him?

Rather than use all that energy to create YouTube and Facebook accounts dedicated to tear him down, why not promote ‘legitimate’ dudes and give them the shot me that Umar is taking?

Killing a man that you’re convinced is a fraud eventually makes you look bad.

Example: Dr. Tommy Curry. Here’s a doctor that was truly under siege.

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Boyce never hid where he got his degree from. Furthermore, when people gave him their money, they got what they paid for. Complete transparency.

Years later, what has Umar produced in the way of a school with all that money he's collected? Why does he get hostile when people ask for transparency, a business plan, a budget? Why does the amount he claims to have collected in donations keep decreasing over the years? Why is he outright lying about how much GoFundMe deducted from the donations to the tune of between 31 and 35% ? (I posted a link directly to their site where they detail that they deduct less than 3% per donation).

There is NOTHING that Umar has spoken on that has not already been spoken on in detail by others before him.

Nobody is "killing" this man. He is killing his own credibility all by himself.

Nobody has to "promote someone to replace him" in order for our grievances to be legit. You act like this negro hasn't been sloppy, disingenuous and suspect these last few years and people are just hating for no cause. This whole thread folks have laid out specifics of his narcissistic, arrogant, hostile, scapegoating, childish behavior - all of which is well known and documented.

A video has been posted in this thread of Umar threatening not to help the community - not to help people's children if they don't give him money. And you want to paint THIS dude as a victim?

There are and have always been MANY amazing dynamic spokespeople for Black folks that are out here who do not have scandal hanging over their heads like a ten ton safe on a weak chain. Angela Davis, Assata Shakur, Dhoruba Bin Wahad, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill, Dr. Keeyanga Yamhatta Taylor and Dr. Joy DeGruy come to mind just to name a few.

Please don't take my passion for anger. I respect your viewpoint and your right to hold it, even though it may differ from mine.
 
I think the difference is those schools are state chartered schools that are subject to the state's whims and regulations. What he is supposedly trying to start is a private school not subject to tbe curricular rules set by the state.
He explained this in the interview with Roland Martin.
 
Yvette has a show where she clearly states that she was not paid a living wage and you totally skipped over Yarima Kurama who did a show with receipts that not only did Boyce not keep up his financial obligation, but threatened to sue him.

So what if he got his car impounded? A PHD in finance who tells everyone to start their own business and leave the ‘corporate plantation’ couldn’t pay his car note? If you want to be a Boyce sycophant, go ahead buddy, but him trying to play holier than thou vs. Umar, we ain’t buying that shit when he got skeletons in his closet too. He shoulda just said what Tariq said and played it neutral instead of dedicating 3 hrs of content to a person criticizing line by line an IG post under the veil of ‘trying to help’.

Boyce is ok, but he’s still a fat simp at his core who got mad because Umar wouldn’t fuck with him for awhile, now he has an opportunity to jump on the brother and he’s taking it. Nigga should just stick to bitcoin and the black business school hustle, which we let him slide for charging $50 for flash cards that can be had on amazon for $15
He released a bullshit ass rant yesterday because people kept calling him out about his behavior towards Umar. He finished his rant by alleging some type of back stage incident happened at some church a long time ago and he hopes someone brings it up. See that's more hoe shit Boyce be doing. Whateva incident allegedly happened obviously it wasn't that serious since NOBODY brought it up days, weeks or even months after it so called happened.
He did that hoe move to get goofy niggaz that already believe Umar done stole millions of dollars worth of donations to go on a witch hunt and spread more bullshit ass rumors against the brother.
A lot of you niggaz are sick in the fucking head.
 
ADMINISTRATORS WORK WITH PARENTS & THE COMMUNITY
State Regulation of Private Schools
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Introduction
State Regulation of Private Schools provides a brief description for each state of state legal requirements that apply to K–12 private schools in the United States. This document is intended to serve as a reference for public and nonpublic school officials, state policy-makers, researchers, and others. This report is an update of the 2000 publication by the Office of Non-Public Education (ONPE), State Regulation of Private Schools, which in turn was an update of the 1993 publication by the (then) Office of Private Education, The Regulation of Private Schools in America: A State by State Analysis.

To ensure the accuracy of each state summary, ONPE first updated the information published in the 2000 report for that state, using information from the state’s Web site. Then, the update was submitted to appropriate state officials for their consideration, revision, and approval. The individuals in each state who reviewed these summaries were critical to ensure timely and accurate updates. ONPE appreciates their participation, cooperation, and expertise. The end of each chapter includes the date when the state last provided comment. As this report is an electronic publication, chapters will be revised and updated as new information becomes available from the states.

The report includes information in several areas of state regulation of private schools. The topics include: Accreditation/Registration/Licensing/Approval, Teacher Certification, Length of School Year/Days, Curriculum, Recordkeeping/Reports, Health and Safety Requirements, Transportation, Textbooks, Testing, Special Education, Nursing and Health, Technology, Professional Development, Reimbursement for Performing State/Local Functions, Tax Exemption, Public Aid for Private Education, Homeschooling, and Information Resources. Charts are included at the end of the state-by-state chapters that summarize key information from the report.

The contents illustrate the nation’s ability to approach similar areas of education in a variety of ways. Not one of the states regulates private schools in exactly the same way as another. Rather, the statutes reflect the unique circumstances, concerns, and policy perspectives in each state.

The goal of the ONPE in publishing this document is to provide concise summaries of relevant state laws in an accessible format. It is our hope that this report will serve the needs of state and federal legislators, public and private school administrators, and the general public.

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https://www2.ed.gov/admins/comm/choice/regprivschl/regprivschl.pdf

https://www.cde.ca.gov/sp/ps/psfaq.asp
 
He released a bullshit ass rant yesterday because people kept calling him out about his behavior towards Umar. He finished his rant by alleging some type of back stage incident happened at some church a long time ago and he hopes someone brings it up. See that's more hoe shit Boyce be doing. Whateva incident allegedly happened obviously it wasn't that serious since NOBODY brought it up days, weeks or even months after it so called happened.
He did that hoe move to get goofy niggaz that already believe Umar done stole millions of dollars worth of donations to go on a witch hunt and spread more bullshit ass rumors against the brother.
A lot of you niggaz are sick in the fucking head.


I have never seen it reported or any accusation that he stole millions of dollars in donations. Did that really happen or is that just an embellishment to increase the narrative that he is benevolent and under undeserved attack?
 
I have never seen it reported or any accusation that he stole millions of dollars in donations. Did that really happen or is that just an embellishment to increase the narrative that he is benevolent and under undeserved attack?

I thought the same thing when I read that.
 
This Boyce vs Umar shit is kind of stupid.

Both of them Negroes have done and said enough to get the side-eye.

Lol yeah I dunno why anyone brought Boyces lame ass up. Umar is a crook and a clown on his won merit. He doesn't need any help
 
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You know brothers, what ultimately is sad is that amongst these internet black conscious 'personalities' they have some of the key areas of human activity covered from a black American perspective:

Umar (education)
Boyce (economics)
Yvette (politics)
Tariq (entertainment)
TBA (economics & labor)

Problem is they can't get along with each other consistently or in some cases have contentious relationships with their audiences, which causes people to pick sides then start going at each other counterproductively.

All these people come with questions from the communities they serve:

Umar (non transparent about school status according to some)

Boyce (emotional, biased, not dealing with his team correctly on money)

Tariq (some say the black empowerment lane is just another hustle for the ultimate hustler and he's not as sincere as some would like)

Yvette (some say she is too negative and not a proponent of the do 4 self mantra)

TBA (some say he is a coward for never showing his face and constantly berating his fanbase on FB and his broadcast when he is disagreed with)

My point is that we could nitpick at all these people or we can embrace the positive things they have to offer, if TV One had built programming around all of the aforementioned in their particular realms of expertise, it would be great, but that will never happen because of the constant bickering

I just listen to these people on YouTube to glean the good things, but Claud Anderson is the true godbox, they all pretty much got their rhetoric from him anyways
 
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