Do you realy think man landed on the moon in the 60s

[Drayonis]

Mission accomplished. Budget cuts. Lack of public interest. Maybe you've noticed they're doing other shit in space now.

When has mankind ever discovered something and then cut it short? Anytime we discover something we continue to push farther and father. You don't discover dynamite and then go back to making firecrackers for the next 500 years.

You push forward with your discovery and achievements until you discover the atomic bomb.

They never went.

 

[Blunt]

When has mankind ever discovered something and then cut it short?

The moon wasn't "discovered" by the Apollo program. The mission (set forth by JFK) was to land a man on the moon by the end of the decade. The U.S. and NASA did that (and more). Period. Movin' on.

 

[Drayonis]

There is gravity on the moon. one sixth that of Earth. There's no atmosphere. They DID go back, landing there 6 times between 1969 and 1972 (Apollo 11,12,14,15,16 & 17). Apollo 13 had technical problems and barely made it back to Earth. How many times NASA gonna fake it before someone catches on? Damn! Some of you people...

Why did they stop video taping all the landings after the first?

 

[Textiles]

Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of people have gotten their moon landing education from an O.J. Simpson/Telly Savalas movie.

This is what I've been looking for!

hmmm....

I didn't know OJ was in it but i heard a lot about this flick..

now I need to find it and watch it.

Thanks

 

[Zero]

When has mankind ever discovered something and then cut it short? Anytime we discover something we continue to push farther and father. You don't discover dynamite and then go back to making firecrackers for the next 500 years.

You push forward with your discovery and achievements until you discover the atomic bomb.

They never went.

Not when you get your plug pulled like NASA did. It's all about funds and NASA was not going to get funds to push further and further. NASA scientist used to think up missions without even considering cost, now they consider cost before they even put pen to paper. That window of opportunity with a bottomless wallet Kennedy gave them was limited and they knew it. NASA scientists have been crying about it ever since.

 

[Zero]

Why did they stop video taping all the landings after the first?

They televised all of them, they just recorded one in color. But to be honest, the public lost interest in the whole shit by the second mission. The whole moon mission was anticlimactic once they touched down the first time. Apollo 13 actually HELPED the program because it brought back some drama.

 

[Benjamin Check]

just like the asshole you are you read what you want, my analogy wasn't in response to the saving billions me talkin about the upkeep of said "moonbase" dumbass, "way less money" yea thats real scientific you dont know what your talking about your espousing rhetoric like its fact motherfucker what nasa channel? and why would a nasa channel tell you about nasa shortcomings, the funny thing is in your own response you owned yourself if its not about the distance but about the amount of fuel to break earths gravity what the fuck would be the difference once you broke you could do the same with a space station dumbass what about being on the moon itself would save billions and where do you get your numbers from and oh by the way you still yet to answer the question. all we (who the fuck is we) found were rocks and h3 says who, and why would other countries believe "us" your the type of dumb ninja who woulda let his kids get sprayed with pesticides back in the day while eating at a picnic (the government knows whats good even if my gut says something aint right about my kids being sprayed with chemical gas while they eat) ninjas like you is why the world is goin to hell in a handbasket. simple minded fuck back to the porn for you less thought involved....

Fuck ass nigga, im NOT HERE FOR PORN......ohhhh youre lookin dumb now huh bruh..i get a lil music, and some information, but the porn...ive gotten some...but its just there...im here for information... Wrong niga I dont trust the govt for shit, but i know that the govt is about money first, safety second. Nasa channel? you dont have cable fool? the nasa channel doesnt talk about short comings. they have conferences about their future plans for the moon and the direction shit is going. what you think i just spout off shit like you. first of all, think fool. you cant make it to mars reliably from earth 1 time. the space station thats is is in orbit, isnt permanent.....it will eventuallly fall apart, and its safer to have a station on a planetary object. damn your shit barely makes sense.....lemme see if i can explain ithis simply...
If you build a station now and mars is bull shit, youve wasted time and money and lives, because we will then need to travel to one of the moons of jupiter for a new "earth type scenario."
Now, once you make it to mars 1 good time manned, and shit looks like it can be habitable, THEN you build a space station, a large one on the moon, so that IN THE LONG RUN its cost effective. you stop launching from earth all together, anything except manpower, and a few necessities. since its a safe bet we wont be using fossil fuels to make repeated trips to mars, due to the cost of proplling FUEL in to space, and since the ship will probably not be able to land on a planet, the next "shuttles" are supposed to be space only, not atmosphere frindly, since you dont need a conventional airframe/shape to mauver in an atmosphere. plus with all the helium 3 thats on the moon, and the probability of fusion engines in the next 50 years, the moon will be a big ass ball of fuel......BUT YOU DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A NASA CHANNEL! dumb fuck!

 

[Drayonis]

Didnt america leave shit on the moon that should stil be there? So with the telescopes and satelites of today, shouldnt that stuff be visible?

The case should be closed just by looking at stuff left on the moon, right?

The Hubble telescope is not allowed to shoot pictures of the moons surface. The telescope that can see other galaxies is banned from looking at the evidence.

The processing power of the "navigation computers" on the first lunar lander had the power of a calculator. <-------true fact.

We were told that because of technological difficulties that NO MORE video was able to be made after the first landing....strange.

 

[Benjamin Check]

yeah and your answer was real enlightened it cost way less to get to mars from the moon than earth Do you realize how stupid that fucking statement is, how much is way less einstein the percentage of saving on a trip to MARS!!?!? from starting at the moon is like saying i saved time traveling to work by starting at the corner of my block then from my driveway. not to mention the cost of getting to the moon and maintaining upkeep but fuck that and your dumbass logic, the point of exploration besides saying ME FIRST is to just do it, by your dumbass logic once russia beat america to space we woulda took our time and got there whenever if motherfuckers could have gotten to the moon, they woulda did it the same way ppl steal climb everest and nations still sent expeditions to the north and south pole.

BESIDES look at your logic then stopped going because nothing of value how would other countries know this, because america said so, why would they take the word of an opposing nation as to whether or not there is somehting of value on the moon, "oh ok america you said nothing is up there but you guys keep goin back ok we wont go" and since when did america end up as the paramount epitome of the scientific world, bitch ass ninja is your car american i doubt it, you mean to tell me all these german scientist all these russian scientist (the same ones who beat everyone to space and established the first space station) were outsmarted for decades by america the home of mindless lemmings like you.....lame....

Man youre dumb son, all those smart germans who built the v-2 rocket cameover here after/during the war and built the saturn v rocket.....how did WE get out smarted. niggasdont seem to understand that the smartest scientists ARE AMERICANS. they got their citizen ship after they were born, and are from other countries. but they are americans. and yes nigga in the 60's/70's america was by FAR the epitome of technology on earth. BY FAR. has more to do with making steel. there are metallurgical/ceramic processes so secret, to make types of shit, that are so secret beyond that, I cant even fathom it. Put it like this, why do you think other countries buy our tanks/planes/bombs......cause our shit is the shit. not the AVERAGE shit, like m-16's those suck, but AMERICAS TIGHT SHIT, is WAY TIGHTER THAN ANYONE ELSES. everyone may not have it, they may hide it to scam money off you. but its here. youre a jackass buddy....

 

[dlow]

Sure did, until someone can prove anything else. Besides who cares, tell me when the make a car run off of water. Then I will be impressed.

 

[KhowYunFat]

Man youre dumb son, all those smart germans who built the v-2 rocket cameover here after/during the war and built the saturn v rocket.....how did WE get out smarted. niggasdont seem to understand that the smartest scientists ARE AMERICANS. they got their citizen ship after they were born, and are from other countries. but they are americans. and yes nigga in the 60's/70's america was by FAR the epitome of technology on earth. BY FAR. has more to do with making steel. there are metallurgical/ceramic processes so secret, to make types of shit, that are so secret beyond that, I cant even fathom it. Put it like this, why do you think other countries buy our tanks/planes/bombs......cause our shit is the shit. not the AVERAGE shit, like m-16's those suck, but AMERICAS TIGHT SHIT, is WAY TIGHTER THAN ANYONE ELSES. everyone may not have it, they may hide it to scam money off you. but its here. youre a jackass buddy....

wrong fuckboy all the scientist didnt come over to amercia and wrong fuckboy american tanks planes and bombs arent even the top of the line today let alone then, so stick to the subject i said what the fuck is the nasa channel that in the name of the shit here silly ass, second you still have yet to answer the question, america is so top of the line that they werent the first to build a space station they weren t the first to put a man in space they werent the first to put a satellite in orbit, your a real dumb ass peon, they cant do any of this but they can put a man on the moon and no one else to this day 2008 can what a fucking moron...

 

[Benjamin Check]

The Hubble telescope is not allowed to shoot pictures of the moons surface. The telescope that can see other galaxies is banned from looking at the evidence.

The processing power of the "navigation computers" on the first lunar lander had the power of a calculator. <-------true fact.

We were told that because of technological difficulties that NO MORE video was able to be made after the first landing....strange.

and you would put a telescope in space, that you need to see galaxies billions of light years away (cause there is atmosphric interfeence) to look at the fucking moon? nigga go a hobby shop, buy a 4000 dollar telescope......you can see the lander. the telescope that can see other galaxies..... the fuck are you talkin about.... theres 100 million of them, in fact with a basic telescope on the right night you can see andromeda and the crab nebula...... the telescope at palomar can see the lander...how much more calculating power do you need to calculate trigonometry........thats all navigation in space is..... yes, the video equipment cost millions to make, send, and run, plus the wasted training time showing astronauts how to use a 2 million dollar space camcorder.jesus......wait but we wasted time firing off all those ridiculously huge rockets, that could easily make it to the moon with good aim, which is literally all it takes is good aim and lots of gas. russia, didnt expose us with telescopes, or china, or any other country, which if you had any idea of how silly the spy game can get, and childish, would have been done in an instant to discredit america. We would STILL be the laughing stock of the planet 40 years later. come on man, really? niggas would have CLOWNED AMERICA, PERMANENTLY! You think niggas would risk getting clowned FOERVER, in politics, economics, the u.n n.a.t.o.......nigga everytime George bush said anything REMOTELY SUSPECT, niggas would have been like "yeah, mmmm hmmm, just like when you went to the moon right?" I HESITATE TO USE THIS WORD, BUT AMERCA WOULD HAVE BEEN "OWNED"

 

[datrep]

Bruh, you missed a couple of science classes, but it's cool.



The moon has NO greenhouse effect at ll because it has no atmosphere, so the moon would only be as warm as the radiant sunlight hitting the bright side could make it before the energy from that sunlight immediately escaped right back into space (not long). Thus, the moon would not be super hot OR super cold, it would be as warm as the sun could make it on the bright side without an atmospheric greenhouse to capture any of that energy and as cold as a complete lack of sun and no greenhouse to preserve heat overnight would make it on the darkside (which ain't pluto cold, but cold, which is why we didn't fuck with the darkside).

First the facts

Moon Statistics
Mass (kg) 7.349e+22
Mass (Earth = 1) 1.2298e-02
Equatorial radius (km) 1,737.4
Equatorial radius (Earth = 1) 2.7241e-01
Mean density (gm/cm^3) 3.34
Mean distance from Earth (km) 384,400
Rotational period (days) 27.32166
Orbital period (days) 27.32166
Average length of lunar day (days) 29.53059
Mean orbital velocity (km/sec) 1.03
Orbital eccentricity 0.0549
Tilt of axis (degrees) 1.5424
Orbital inclination (degrees) 5.1454
Equatorial surface gravity (m/sec^2) 1.62
Equatorial escape velocity (km/sec) 2.38
Visual geometric albedo 0.12
Magnitude (Vo) -12.74
Mean surface temperature (day) 107°C
Mean surface temperature (night) -153°C
Maximum surface temperature 123°C
Minimum surface temperature -233°C

Next the greenhouse effect:

True, the effect warms the lower atmosphere of the earth.

Stick your hand on top of a black car in south GA in August and see what happens. The RADIANT heat from the sun heats the metal of the car hot enough to burn you. And that's only some of the radiant energy of the sun, the rest is blocked by the atmosphere, Ozone, etc. The moon has no atmosphere as we all know, so pick up a metal hammer and watch it melt your rubber glove. Take a golf club and shove it in your oven at 230 degrees f, and watch the magic. Better yet, put your 60's adding machine in there.

Now on to this guy...

forst you wont "miss" the earth, youll break up on reentry, and burn up a the wrong angle, maybe skip off the atmosphere, but youd prob break up while doing it due to the bad angle and heat. um the components were insulated refrigerated, so i dont think that they were just willy nilly exposed to the harshness of deep space. Why no station...cause we dont have the reliable techology to make it mars manned yet.....so why build a station before we can make it from here 2 times reliably......seems like an asshole move to me.....thats like the pool being halfway full and you deciding to jump off the diving board, but just aiming for the deepest part....

Perhaps i should have clarified myself. If it satellite were heading for earth on a near miss trajectory (much like the lander would have been on) it would not automatically be grabbed into orbit by the pull of the earth or moon. You need to be accurate with your measurements, thrusts, velocity, angles, etc in order to enter the orbit of a moon that you are trying to near miss.

and as far as your no moon station answer....the biggest thing we're trying to do now is land on mars, a moon base would be very logical, not to mention the tons of research that could be done on the rock that orbits our planet. And since you say we've "successfully" been there more than twice, it would seem logical to you too that we build a base


THINK OUTSIDE OF WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU. USE YOUR BRAIN INDEPENDENTLY AND ANALYZE WHAT MAKES SENSE.

 

[berry984]

...................No

 

[mcboob]

What's always confused me about the 'Space race' is-

Russia was ahead of the US in this race

Russia was the-

First to send a satelite in to space
first to send an animal in space
first to send a man in space
first to send a woman in space
first to send a probe on another planet

Then all of sudden the US surpassed the USSR and the USSR never follows up?
Put a ship in synchronist orbit with another planet, land and then take off???

No indication of man being on the moon is visible from telescopes on Earth
And no one has gone back?

Just very odd.

 

[datrep]

... theres 100 million of them, in fact with a basic telescope on the right night you can see andromeda and the crab nebula...... the telescope at palomar can see the lander...how much more calculating power do you need to calculate trigonometry........thats all navigation in space is..... all it takes is good aim and lots of gas.

I'll ask you too like i did someone earlier in the thread. Find a pic that someone has taken with a telescope of the lander on the moon. It sounds like someone would have done this, and it would have its own section of the internet out there somewhere. I can pull up a pic of the crab nebula in under 1 minute, because more than one organization has taken a picture of it. I can pull up a picture of a dodge viper because more than one organization has seen it and captured it on film. Find the lunar lander for me please. Find that picture. And that will end that aspect of my argument.

 

[NnubianN]

For those of you who live in New York and have Cablevision for their service tune to channel 132 and watch this program called "Aviation." For those who don't have Cablevusion the channel name is WLIW World. What' was almost comical is that I was watching this program earlier this morning while I was responding to this threadf. It tells of the pioneers who built up the aviation business and were primarily responsible for putting man on the moon. Right now the 2nd hour is on, telling about James "Dutch" Kindelberger and Donald Douglas. McDonald Douglas and Boeing were two of the primary companies that helped to develop the Saturn 5 rocket launcher that was the workhorse for the Apollo missions, which is told in the final hour. For those of you who have short attention spans here are some links that shoot holes through all those accusations that the Fox Moon Hoax managed to put up, which I'm sure, many of you got your "Denial Degrees in Hoaxology" from.

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did we land on the Moon.htm
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm
http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/FOX.html

Also, check out this very informative site about the race for space. This should put any doubts to rest about whether or not the technology to go to the moon existed

http://www.thespacerace.com/

 

[Benjamin Check]

wrong fuckboy all the scientist didnt come over to amercia and wrong fuckboy american tanks planes and bombs arent even the top of the line today let alone then, so stick to the subject i said what the fuck is the nasa channel that in the name of the shit here silly ass, second you still have yet to answer the question, america is so top of the line that they werent the first to build a space station they weren t the first to put a man in space they werent the first to put a satellite in orbit, your a real dumb ass peon, they cant do any of this but they can put a man on the moon and no one else to this day 2008 can what a fucking moron...

um our tanks are the shit, every country is buying the jsf fighter/raptor/ f-18/f-14 besides europe who has a euro fighter, that General Dynamics/Mcdonnel douglas helped them build.....um all the scientists did come to america, the nigga who invented ROCKET SCIENCE WORKED FOR NASA........ wehrner von braun this nigga invented rocket science. Russia made it there off the bones of hundreds of astronauts. you must not have any idea what a joke the russian space program was by the 70's. MAD RUNSSIANS died in the space program trying to beat america. havent you seen k-something the widowmaker, you see how the russians did the PRIDE of the NUCLEAR SUB FLEET, slipshod as fuck. Niggas can do it, theres just no reason to do it now, unless theres a benefit. the only benefit, is a large permanent space station on the moon. the space station was built by nasa, sent up by nasa, now its CALLED the INTERNATIONAL space station for political correctness, and to share the cost with other contries who dont have a space program, but money to fund research. But thats our space station buddy you have to fly a space shuttle to get on it.....property of NASA.
im done son read a book

 

[Blunt]

And no one has gone back?

We went back 5 or 6 times. Did you miss that?

 

[Benjamin Check]

First the facts

Moon Statistics
Mass (kg) 7.349e+22
Mass (Earth = 1) 1.2298e-02
Equatorial radius (km) 1,737.4
Equatorial radius (Earth = 1) 2.7241e-01
Mean density (gm/cm^3) 3.34
Mean distance from Earth (km) 384,400
Rotational period (days) 27.32166
Orbital period (days) 27.32166
Average length of lunar day (days) 29.53059
Mean orbital velocity (km/sec) 1.03
Orbital eccentricity 0.0549
Tilt of axis (degrees) 1.5424
Orbital inclination (degrees) 5.1454
Equatorial surface gravity (m/sec^2) 1.62
Equatorial escape velocity (km/sec) 2.38
Visual geometric albedo 0.12
Magnitude (Vo) -12.74
Mean surface temperature (day) 107°C
Mean surface temperature (night) -153°C
Maximum surface temperature 123°C
Minimum surface temperature -233°C

Next the greenhouse effect:

True, the effect warms the lower atmosphere of the earth.

Stick your hand on top of a black car in south GA in August and see what happens. The RADIANT heat from the sun heats the metal of the car hot enough to burn you. And that's only some of the radiant energy of the sun, the rest is blocked by the atmosphere, Ozone, etc. The moon has no atmosphere as we all know, so pick up a metal hammer and watch it melt your rubber glove. Take a golf club and shove it in your oven at 230 degrees f, and watch the magic. Better yet, put your 60's adding machine in there.

Now on to this guy...



Perhaps i should have clarified myself. If it satellite were heading for earth on a near miss trajectory (much like the lander would have been on) it would not automatically be grabbed into orbit by the pull of the earth or moon. You need to be accurate with your measurements, thrusts, velocity, angles, etc in order to enter the orbit of a moon that you are trying to near miss.

and as far as your no moon station answer....the biggest thing we're trying to do now is land on mars, a moon base would be very logical, not to mention the tons of research that could be done on the rock that orbits our planet. And since you say we've "successfully" been there more than twice, it would seem logical to you too that we build a base


THINK OUTSIDE OF WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU. USE YOUR BRAIN INDEPENDENTLY AND ANALYZE WHAT MAKES SENSE.

see here you go trying to be smart again.... now until "we"as in a man makes it there....i'm not talkin about a 100 pound probe buddy. till MAN makes it there, lands, walks around, and comes back safely, theres no point in a moon station. we have a space station, however problematic, that is doing all the zero-g research we need.....dog i dont listen to what anyONE tells me, i listen to what 1000's of people tell me, sift through the bullshit/motives, add in my own knowledge, and still dont believe it all the way till I do it. feel me? space suits arent made of rubber buddy..so they wont melt. second youd have to be on the surface for a while, couple hours, seemed like they went out and cameback in a couple times. Space suits are made of some shit thats more heat resistant than nomex.....so gloves melting.....sounds dumb. ever put a piece of alminum foil in the oven asshole, i can bake potatoes but can reach into the hot oven, and grab the edges of the fiol and not burn myself, cause alminum doesnt hold heat.......insulation.......by george! what a concept. why dont you try this,take a piece of foil, put the oven on broil, let it sit in ther for an hour, then grab it, when it doesnt burn your hand, unless there is a hot potato/object that trapped oven heat......then you list some more DUMBASS statistics about temperature dummy!

 

[slick]

That applies more to the looney-tune conspiracy believers (like yourself) who can't think for themselves and are willing to believe all sorts of totally ridiculous shit in order to "belong" to a group of supposed "outsiders" (who are even more manipulative of their gullible followers than the government is).

"nigga please you work at UPS"

you missed the point, completely, as expected. and your response just proves that you are a fucking phony, a fraud, a fountain of misinformation.

there is nothing "looney-tunes" or "conspiratory" about Stanley Milgram's study. In fact, it's a renowned experiment in the field of Social Psychology. Stanley Milgram was a social psychologist at Yale and Harvard.

for rudimentary purposes, let's review:
"In the scientific method, an experiment is a set of observations performed in the context of solving a particular problem or question, to retain or falsify a hypothesis or research concerning phenomena. The experiment is a cornerstone in the empirical approach to acquiring deeper knowledge about the physical world."

read the book you halfwit. then draw your own conclusions.

 

[shat11]

No.

 

[datrep]

see here you go trying to be smart again.... now until "we"as in a man makes it there....i'm not talkin about a 100 pound probe buddy. till MAN makes it there, lands, walks around, and comes back safely, theres no point in a moon station. we have a space station, however problematic, that is doing all the zero-g research we need.....dog i dont listen to what anyONE tells me, i listen to what 1000's of people tell me, sift through the bullshit/motives, add in my own knowledge, and still dont believe it all the way till I do it. feel me? space suits arent made of rubber buddy..so they wont melt. second youd have to be on the surface for a while, couple hours, seemed like they went out and cameback in a couple times. Space suits are made of some shit thats more heat resistant than nomex.....so gloves melting.....sounds dumb. ever put a piece of alminum foil in the oven asshole, i can bake potatoes but can reach into the hot oven, and grab the edges of the fiol and not burn myself, cause alminum doesnt hold heat.......insulation.......by george! what a concept. why dont you try this,take a piece of foil, put the oven on broil, let it sit in ther for an hour, then grab it, when it doesnt burn your hand, unless there is a hot potato/object that trapped oven heat......then you list some more DUMBASS statistics about temperature dummy!

Your overuse of the word dummy is leading me to believe that having a civilized debate with you is a moot point. It does not take very long for the sun to burn something using its radiant heat.

You honestly believe that there was not one thing up there that would not be adversely affected by 200 degree temperatures?

Be honest, we can't even build cars, houses, space stations (as you already mentioned), computers, and hundreds of other things we've been building for decades without something going wrong. And you think NASA perfected this the VERY......FIRST.....TIME......THEY......."LANDED"......ON......THE......MOON.

 

[Zero]

First the facts

Moon Statistics
Mass (kg) 7.349e+22
Mass (Earth = 1) 1.2298e-02
Equatorial radius (km) 1,737.4
Equatorial radius (Earth = 1) 2.7241e-01
Mean density (gm/cm^3) 3.34
Mean distance from Earth (km) 384,400
Rotational period (days) 27.32166
Orbital period (days) 27.32166
Average length of lunar day (days) 29.53059
Mean orbital velocity (km/sec) 1.03
Orbital eccentricity 0.0549
Tilt of axis (degrees) 1.5424
Orbital inclination (degrees) 5.1454
Equatorial surface gravity (m/sec^2) 1.62
Equatorial escape velocity (km/sec) 2.38
Visual geometric albedo 0.12
Magnitude (Vo) -12.74
Mean surface temperature (day) 107°C
Mean surface temperature (night) -153°C
Maximum surface temperature 123°C
Minimum surface temperature -233°C

Next the greenhouse effect:

True, the effect warms the lower atmosphere of the earth.

Stick your hand on top of a black car in south GA in August and see what happens. The RADIANT heat from the sun heats the metal of the car hot enough to burn you. And that's only some of the radiant energy of the sun, the rest is blocked by the atmosphere, Ozone, etc. The moon has no atmosphere as we all know, so pick up a metal hammer and watch it melt your rubber glove. Take a golf club and shove it in your oven at 230 degrees f, and watch the magic. Better yet, put your 60's adding machine in there.

First off, those temperatures you rattled off are EASILY manageable in a space suit and vehicle (it's not like they drove a Dodge to the moon and wore courderoys), so that's a non-issue you proved yourself. That's also why we only hit certain spots on the moon at certain times. We never hit the darkside where it was coldest and everything was reflective to diffuse the affects of RADIANT heat, which leads to my second point and the reason why I know you stopped taking science courses in the 9th grade.

Know why the lunar lander looked like it was made of tin foil? Know why the space suits were all white and foil looking as well? Because, LIKE YOU SAID, a black car sitting in the sun absorbs radiant heat, but guess what a white or chrome car would do? REFLECT RADIANT HEAT. Without an atmosphere to CAPTURE RADIANT HEAT the reflected heat just bounces right back out into space in the form of reflected radiation (visible light is a form of radiation, BTW). Space suits are designed to capture certain wavelengths and reflect others and they have built-in climate control so no matter what the situation is outside, the wearer of the suit is comfortable.

If you are a scientist working for NASA, seems like you would assume that the various climates in space may vary somewhat from what is in Florida at the time and plan accordingly.

So basically, if your metal hammer is not BLACK or dark, it won't heat up as quickly. Add to that the fact that you are in SPACE and would hopefully (if you aren't a fuckin' idiot) be wearing gloves, you should be OK on the moon. And what country do you live in where they haven't invented the oven mitt yet? You act like a couple of hundred degrees is the surface of the Sun. 230 degrees is used to WARM meat, not even cook it and it will boil water, not melt steel. I figure if Wal-Mart can protect my hand from a 400 degree pot, NASA can come up with a glove that can handle 230 degrees (damn dog).

I mean, if I operate under your logic, I'd see your point, but nobody drove a black Cadillac to the moon and worked in a t-shirt, so it kinda falls by the wayside.

 

[Benjamin Check]

Your overuse of the word dummy is leading me to believe that having a civilized debate with you is a moot point. It does not take very long for the sun to burn something using its radiant heat.

You honestly believe that there was not one thing up there that would not be adversely affected by 200 degree temperatures?

Be honest, we can't even build cars, houses, space stations (as you already mentioned), computers, and hundreds of other things we've been building for decades without something going wrong. And you think NASA perfected this the VERY......FIRST.....TIME......THEY......."LANDED"......ON......THE......MOON.

hey dummy, i use it where is appropriate. Um cars houses computers ARE BUILT TO FAIL. GET IT, BUILT TO BE REPLACED. If you had a car that lasted 20 years, noone would buy new ones....hmmmmmmmmmm dummy. hmmmmmmmmm im sure things would have been adversely afected, and im sure that there were a few minor things, but knowing nasa nerds, with unilimited budgets, nigga look at the star trek/dragon con/star wars nerds. imagine them with an unlimited budget......you think they would fake it, back when nasa was run by nerds first cost second, in to bottomless pockes of the kennedy era? dummy! a couple rockets blew up on the pad unmanned first, plus the 3 (grissom, white and chaffee) died in apollo 1 on the pad. So no the first time we tried we failed miserably. DUMMY. plus apollo 13 when they almost died going. DUMMY! youre a dummy nigga, i dont have rational conversations with dumb ass niggas, youre dumb! wouldnt that defeat the purpose of my logical rhetoric?

 

[NnubianN]

I'll ask you too like i did someone earlier in the thread. Find a pic that someone has taken with a telescope of the lander on the moon. It sounds like someone would have done this, and it would have its own section of the internet out there somewhere. I can pull up a pic of the crab nebula in under 1 minute, because more than one organization has taken a picture of it. I can pull up a picture of a dodge viper because more than one organization has seen it and captured it on film. Find the lunar lander for me please. Find that picture. And that will end that aspect of my argument.

It still wouldn't matter to most. If a pic was produced they'ed ask for a movie. If a movie was shown they'ed ask for a sequel. Then for this and for that. Some people will never be convinced, which really is alright. It's good to question anything you have doubts in. That's what spurs people on to improve their minds and in turn improve mankind. The thing is, when the evidence is so overwhelming against your (or anyone's) POV when do you say "Alright I'm convinced?" If you are home please turn your TV onto channel132 (Cablevision) or the channel WLIW World right now. This program is very informative.

Major Gregarian from Russia was the first man to go into space.

 

[Zero]

Be honest, we can't even build cars, houses, space stations (as you already mentioned), computers, and hundreds of other things we've been building for decades without something going wrong. And you think NASA perfected this the VERY......FIRST.....TIME......THEY......."LANDED"......ON......THE......MOON.

Dog, we've been able to build all those things for YEARS, just not AFFORDABLY. NASA doesn't have to build shit AFFORDABLY (or I should say DIDN'T have to), thus they can take shit to the limits of technology. There us PLENTY of shit that is scientifically feasible TODAY that won't be affordable ina mass produced way for 100 years because the technology to produce something and the technology to MASS PRODUCE something are two different things. If you were a billionaire (and wanted to spend the money), you could have a solar house, electric car and all the other shit you claim doesn't exist today and the government could do the same if they were willing to spend the loot (which they WERE in the 1960's but ARE NOT today). The shitty space shuttle wasn't built because it was the latest and greatest technology, it was built because it was REUSABLE and cheaper than a disposable rocket and capsule.

 

[Zero]

I don't get how this argument works. The cats with the shaky science that gets refuted 30 seconds after they post it trying to prove there is NO WAY we could have gone to the moon want proof from the people with solid science, video, pictures and NO PROOF IN 40 YEARS REFUTING their claims.


Same shit religious nuts use to disprove basically ALL SCIENCE and also the reason why our kids will be mowing the lawns and doing the laundry of Chinese kids in 50 years.

There were no dinosaurs, I don't care how many bones you find, they never existed!

Yes, a man divided the Red Sea with a STICK, says so right here on page 345.

 

[Dert Bagg]

When has mankind ever discovered something and then cut it short? Anytime we discover something we continue to push farther and father. You don't discover dynamite and then go back to making firecrackers for the next 500 years.

You push forward with your discovery and achievements until you discover the atomic bomb.

They never went.

SPACE was the frontier. The moon was a location. Mars is next.
That is pushing farther and farther.

 

[Zero]

SPACE was the frontier. The moon was a location. Mars is next.
That is pushing farther and farther.

Funny thing is, NASA nerds were PISSED about the space shuttle because they knew the shit couldn't go any-damn-where and was the writing on the wall that "astronauts" were about to become orbital researchers and satellite mechanics.

NASA has manned deep space probes on the drawing board, but they may never get funding.

 

[BMG]

DA HELL? Can you please refine this statement. It makes 0 sense.

We dont know if they went back or not. Military aka Nasa, doesnt tell us fuckheads every little thing they do. If they did. jack a lope americans would be running around shitless. asking dumb questions like.

"If they can put a man on th emoon, why can't they make fuel efficient cars?"

i did already

 

[NnubianN]

I think I understand the reason for our peoples' collective deep seeded distrust for the white guys landing on the moon. It might possibly have to do with "us" not being a part of it in any major way. That's totally wrong. Without "us" there would be no United States. This country was built with our sweat, labor AND genius. We as African Americans contributed much to the braintrust of American technology and are continuing to do so toaday. We must never forget that. It can be hard sometimes to hold our heads up when we look at the continued achievements that whitey impressively stamps his "Made in America" label on. But many people know the truth and can be proud. If only ALL of us knew it and could be proud together as a people. May your New Year be prosperous and fulfilling.

Peace

 

[Drayonis]

The moon wasn't "discovered" by the Apollo program. The mission (set forth by JFK) was to land a man on the moon by the end of the decade. The U.S. and NASA did that (and more). Period. Movin' on.

when I say "discovered" I meant discovered as in "they discovered the means to land on another celestial body other than earth". So they go to the moon and because of money they decided to never go back. Why weren't there documentation (video) released of the later trips? Why NO MORE VIDEO?

 

[datrep]

hey dummy, i use it where is appropriate. Um cars houses computers ARE BUILT TO FAIL. GET IT, BUILT TO BE REPLACED. If you had a car that lasted 20 years, noone would buy new ones....hmmmmmmmmmm dummy. hmmmmmmmmm im sure things would have been adversely afected, and im sure that there were a few minor things, but knowing nasa nerds, with unilimited budgets, nigga look at the star trek/dragon con/star wars nerds. imagine them with an unlimited budget......you think they would fake it, back when nasa was run by nerds first cost second, in to bottomless pockes of the kennedy era? dummy! a couple rockets blew up on the pad unmanned first, plus the 3 (grissom, white and chaffee) died in apollo 1 on the pad. So no the first time we tried we failed miserably. DUMMY. plus apollo 13 when they almost died going. DUMMY! youre a dummy nigga, i dont have rational conversations with dumb ass niggas, youre dumb! wouldnt that defeat the purpose of my logical rhetoric?

Ok, you obviously don't recognize an example when one is given. Hammer, glove, black car, hand. Examples. Refute the fact that they claimed to put a lunar dune buggy on the moon operating in those temperatures, refute the fact that they claim to operate cameras and other digital equipment in those temperatures. The technology today couldn't work in environments that were 200 plus degrees, without some serious cooling technology and electricity. They were not as advanced back then to cool those devices, and electricity wasn't an bottomless commodity that they had up there either. Recognize an example when you see one, and apply it to the "facts" that you hold on to in your mind.

 

[Blunt]

read the book you halfwit. then draw your own conclusions.

He'd throw up in his mouth if he knew you were using it to justify something so stupid. You probably think the Earth is flat too.